How Do ENTPs Compare To ENFPs? | ENTP vs ENFP | CS Joseph
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- How do ENTPs compare to ENFPS? CS Joseph discusses ENTP vs ENFP.
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Gotta love Se demon driving and giving a lecture at the same time!
No one can crash into me if I’m the one that will crash into other cars
If you get in a car accident while filming one day, you will piss me off! I cannot live without you CS! Love your ENFP XO (typed by you 🤗)
I find it hilarious driving with this white board as a co-pilot. :D INTP
This video was indeed dope. I've tried watching other mbti videos. Your videos are the only ones I can watch. I'm an ENTP and I think I feel more comfortable listening to someone who speaks and thinks like me.
GET OVER Ti Lopez please!!!!!!! focus on a more interesting ENFP, you are clinged to him
It took me aminute to realize you meant "Ti" as his first name and not "Ti" as introverted thinking lol. I was starting to wonder how can an ENFP be Ti :D
I was just gonna say "Stop focusing on Ti Lopez and star focusing on Te Lopez!"
@@Partor6 I'm ENFP with Ti trickster equally developed as Te child here. What you said was true, I am prone to online education lately not just because of the knowledge itself but the certification looks cool as I had Financial Aids to study online. It's a weird spectrum of cognitive development to have, it's really confusing, but it's also fun wanting to be right yet not really care about what others think about how I am as I am who I am. Strange. Just saying.
ngl I kinda agree with this comment. It's not that I'm sick of his name, but it's more of... I have no idea who Ti Lopez is. When CS Joseph says his name over and over, I can only guess on what he's saying what kind of person and what he achieved/did to be mentioned that often. To me, he's just talking about some rando guy who happens to be an ENFP. CS Joseph, if you're reading this, please have variety in who you use as an example for ENFPs.
The main reason as an ENFP that truth is less of a priority, is because in our eyes there is no conclusive truth. One of my most hated situations is when you're convinced that you're right, but you're then proven wrong. I like to think that we're aware that truth can often be subjective, and that some truths are incomprehensible to us, we can't receive answers for questions that we can't even fathom. So instead we tend to focus on perspectives.
I think with inferior Si, we have to try and ground ourselves with out judgement axis. For the ENTP this is a fixation on ti truth, for the ENFP, I say I ground myself through my sense of strong values, e.g. a situation/circumstance may change and I may have to adapt, but my sense of self that keeps me grounded is usually my Ne/Fi ethos which is a carefully constructed "world" that connects my political views, social views, economic views, spiritual views e.g just how Jung developed the types based on the tarot card which were based off of star constellations. The balance of Fi/Te for me is all about making the most ethical and efficient decision. Whereas I feel Ti/Fe is more necessity and Harmony focused. ENTPs in my experience are less polarising than ENFPs, they will still seem quirky, but never really controversial like with ENFPs. I think this is hugely to do with the judgement axis though, Fi/Te is very 0% or 100% but Ti/Fe is very capable of only bring part of themselves to the table. It's interesting to see how the two types can view each other as 'cold' for me I find Fe to be shallow, with little conviction, it can feel like they don't truly care, but with ENFPs unless there's an Fi passion to engage us we will not dedicate energy to it which is often perceived as cold indifference by the Ti/Fe people around me.
Thank you.
Right there is no conclusive truth about the big questions!! It is true I’m sitting on a tiny chair that was made in China but is the sun hitting my face with photons? Hell no, inconclusive. We do not know enough to determine the truth on that so I prefer to qualify a statement like ”many people believe...” I have been through so many new revelations that I know it’s going to happen again, so why bother claiming truth on a subject like that? Just a silly example
I don't know, as an ENFP maybe I sometimes prone myself to bullshitting but I do value and appreciate the truth because it helps my Fi making decision. I don't know why or it's just me but a of people who were afraid to tell me the truth ended up bullshitting just like me then there we go the blame game. If my shits were meant for a laugh, the shits I had from others was meant for a slap in the face lol.
To conclude, I think the truth is very valuable, especially the truth about how the emotional situation is between ENFP and another type. It's a priority, don't think ENFPs hate the truth, we just want to fix the reality, doesn't mean we hate the truth. We need it.
Am I a feeler if I can't stand that feelers make truth subjective?
I have been mistyped as ENFP so this has been a SUPER valuable video. If I had watched this years ago, I would not have been as confused. Thank you!
Im ENTP with a photographic memory did i hit the jackpot? 😂😂
Akondaye Elicerio yes yea you did
same
Photogenic memory doesn't exist.
ENTPs are so into the "lines" and "catch phrases." My ENTP brother is really obsessed with saying "who do you think you are?" and "you're not allowed to do that." So entertaining.
we have plenty of verbal-tics
It's the dopest.
From 12:19
Although it may be the general case for an underdeveloped ENFP, I disagree that when ENFP's meet authority figures we are looking at it from the perspective of "what we can gain". Personally, I've read many Robert Greene books and some Dr. Peterson's lectures which have allowed me to synthesize an understanding of how the desires of the ego are many times counterproductive and potentially fatal. Therefore, instead of thinking "what can I gain," I think, "How can I best grow from this experience and learn from those who are better than me and simultaneously help the organization move forward?"
But please, don't get me wrong. Of course we do have primal desires of wanting power, (Te user's in general do), and there has to be more healthy expressions of that, but i'm against making it a habit of pursuing it in corrupt ways.
I guess my main point is that it seems a little unfair to oversimplify an ENFP's process to "What can I gain?" and that we're shysters, when in reality, we can have a complex way of looking at world and not as self-centered.
At least that's my two cents on the matter, hope it helps Chase!
I've made a similar point (but in a different way) on numerous videos of his about ENFPs, because he clearly has a low opinion of them. I agree with him on lots of points but I've tried to point out that his characterisation of ENFPs as dodgy salesmen is broadly inaccurate. There's defo some misinterpretation going on here. But I think he secretly believes he's figured people out much more than most people at this point so he's unlikely to bend.
There seems to be a deep rooted bias that he tries to keep in check but ultimately can't correct yet.
I love Chase honestly, but he does have a bias against enfps. I think it has to do with some he has met. I also think taking from my own experience, that even though we are alike in many ways we are also fundamentally different and we are somewhat a mystery to one another. Even with this personality stuff to inform us. I do think part of an Entp and enfp wants to be friends with one another but it takes knowing something about one another's personalities early on for it to work. Like hey I'm (enfp) all about inner morals and hey I'm all about inner truth (entp) and then they could be like cool so let's talk about how morals can be consistent with truth. And bam! Well maybe I'm oversimplifying it but it's a thought lol
@@edwinortiz7114 I agree on your first point. Not sure if I agree on your 2nd point about ENFP-ENTP friendships. I'm an ENFP and was drawn to some ENTPs before I knew about the MBTI - I like being around other Ne-doms generally. Also, I'd disagree with certain aspects of Chase's compatibility model (in terms of friendship rather than dating) because I find that their values and philosophies on life from a nurture point of view has much more bearing on whether I enjoy hanging out with them or not. Even though people are more naturally drawn to some MBTI /Jungian types than others (I do agree with that much), they could just as easily dislike or like each other depending on other things about them.
Favors with another favor..
That is how mutualism work...
Unless u want to be a parasite. Favor for nothing..
I believe he has a bias against an enfp. He is clearly angry with one. Hahah
You described the difference between my coworker (ENFP) and I (ENTP) so perfectly and I laughed way too much while watching this because of it and probably also because of the amount of random tangents
Look here everyone!! Lol From my perspective, Fi and moods are not the same thing and I'd like everyone to at least hear me out since I am an upper function Fi user. I think when people say Fi is a mood they are actually just focusing on the mood that is the result of Fi and they are not understanding that, that is not Fi itself. The only way they can truly understand Fi is to understand the internal process. To make my point clear, Chase's Ti comes off as a mood. He conveys mannerisms and vocal tone consistent with arrogance/frustration as he uses it sometimes (no judgment though. This is just an evaluation of his mood). But I also wouldn't say his Ti is a mood like he's saying Fi is a mood. As an enfp I dont know what the internal process of Ti looks like. All I see is someone saying "this is true!" or "this isnt true!" just like all you see an Fi user doing is saying "this is right!" or "this isnt right!" Both come off moody without a clear explanation of the inner process that people are not seeing. Maybe Fi also comes with an awareness of what I feel but I think that it is just an additional attribute of Fi. Im not just randomly feeling things. I'm feeling things as a result of value judgments that I develop rationally. But anywho this is why I dont think anyone should be able to say Fi is a mood if I cant say Ti is a mood. If anyone would ever like to have a discussion about it I'd love to talk to more about morals/values and how I develop them.
Fi is definitely mood based
@@CSJoseph you're being close-minded/moody.
Aka, back to my point. You need to explain your Ti process for someone to understand it's conclusion. Just like I need to explain my Fi process in order for you to understand it's conclusion. And I know you have one, just like you should know I have an Fi process. Fight me chase. With your words though. I'd lose a real fight. Lol.
@@CSJoseph But I mean I guess the decision to discuss is up to you. I just don't think it's true based on the reasoning above and wanted to pass info along to you because I do value your content. But maybe I am not worthy yet. However, I'll be finishing my ph.d. in clinical psych in the next two years and I HAVE been reading some of the works you've been suggesting on your channel. I plan to continue learning so I'm sure one day soon I shall be worthy.
Edwin Ortiz compare low Fe users with high Fi users and measure their moods. Make sure you verify their types before you begin.
This isn’t the first time I’ve watched this video because I have flip flopped between these types, but it really clicked for me this time hearing about the third function. I do go out of my way to make others feel good about themselves much like you described. Thanks for clarifying, again, that I’m most likely an ENTP.
I love your videos. I am an ENFP and I have an ENTP brother- this was great to hear.
According to the mbti manual ENTPs make up 3.2 percent of the population and ENFPs make up 8.1 percent, the highest of any intuitive types. Other sources show similar percentages.
Yeah I always wondered why ENFPs are so much more common than other intuitives. ENTPs are rarer though, we are the rarest of all the NPs (slightly rarer than INTPs, way rarer than NFPs).
@@st3llarmemer111 According to the mbti manual INTPs make up 3.3 % of the U.S. population vs 3.2% for ENTP. INFPs are at 4.4%. On average each type makes up 6.25% of the population. So ENFPs are the only intuitive type that are more common than average. Why? Because we need sales people and teachers which they are awsome at. And I believe nature produces type based on utility. As an INTP I feel useless to do so many practical things. And I say to myself that's why nature produced so few of us.
@@jaredvaughan1665 Meh we have our uses. All NTs make for great entrepreneurs. Just look at Elon, Donald Trump, Bill Gates, and Steve Jobs. All of them are NTs.
But that's probably part of it. Most people are not entrepreneurial.
@@st3llarmemer111 Good point. In my case I'm a nontech oriented INTP enneagram 5 wing 4 (as opposed to enneagram 5 wing 6 who is very technically and entrepreneurially oriented.) My last comments about my theory as to why intps and entps are more rare than ENFPs were largely based on personal experience. Also Chase made a comment that the best school teachers and salesmen are NFPs And think of how common those two professions are!
I like to hypothesize ENTPs are rare because evolutionary we have kept getting killed by the tribe at high rates for talking shit and telling them when they are wrong. Like that montage scene in Forest Gump where Lt Dan's ancestors are killed in every single American war.
It's just ENTP after ENTP being stoned to death, burned at the stake, hung, guillotined, crucified, etc, etc. For saying things like the Mammoth god isn't real, the Earth isn't flat, witches don't have magic powers, Justin Bieber gets to much hate for bs reasons, etc, etc
Just another day at the NT club...
ENTP:
I hate the authority so I'm creating my own.
ENTJ:
I hate the authority so I'm creating my own.
INTP:
I hate the authority so I'm creating my own.
INTJ:
I hate the authority so I'm creating my own.
*NTs: let's create a new authority*
**INFP walks into the room**
INFP: guys maybe it's better if we cooperate with the existing authority to create harmony and progressive change
ENTP: we don't do that here
INFP: but I feel it's right to do so
INTJ and ENTJ: We feel otherwise
ENTP: I don't have feelings
INTP: I do bad things with my feelings
*exeunt. INFP*
@@linyenchin6773 first part was enlightening, second part makes me go: if gods real and the universe is a simulation could people be worshipping some irresponsible teen just fucking around with a simulation?
@@linyenchin6773 wasn't saying it was a teen, was saying it could be. We don't have any evidence OR abstract reasoning to even comprehend what God would be/look like yet. And I'm a TiFe user (ENTP). My reasoning is that if we have no idea how to comprehend it, we don't know it.
Also I was mememing for fun.
@@linyenchin6773 *intercourse* between Fibonacci and Phi
you could make a -religion- bad pun out of this
@@linyenchin6773 this doesn't hurt at all to hear, I already existentialized similar things x1837sq number of times.
*we don’t do that here*
Lol "ENFPs are way more shyst-y." Is that the technical term? Ne ramblings are entertaining
Yup, don't be shyst-y. Gratitude is the greatest currency. But currency follows gratitude in the confines of our monetary system.
I did enjoy the video, but I do have several points in regards to ENFPs that I heavily disagree with. I am myself an ENFP, and while much of the video is true, there are things that don't add up.
In regards to the idea that ENFPs are the biggest shysters? Maybe if you fuck us over, but that is the SE demon talking. We are quite moral people, and we do have duty and loyalty. We care about reputation after all, which is TRUE. And at least for me, my reputation is ironclad and good BECAUSE I deal on the level with people. There might be fine print clauses, but I will point to them and explain what it is and why that is there. Because I want you to know that I could have easily screwed you over, but I didn't. I might stab you if you get on my wrong side, but I will show you the knife first and what consequences mean. This means that my reputation is solid, and you will recommend me to others because . However, that honesty comes with the understanding that if you do screw me over, then I will ruin you. Your reputation will be gone, your business destroyed. I'll make sure no one deals with you and make every effort to ensure you do not remain in business. That part is VERY much true. It's about fairness and the understanding that actions have consequences. SE Demon is ALL about Karma. And we do want the world to burn, for a burnt out forest will have new life again from the ashes. It's all about teaching a lesson.
If there was one type I would think was the biggest scammer type I would say ESTP or ESTJ.
And if we were so manipulative, we wouldn't be vulnerable in turn to being easily scammed and manipulated. It's pretty hard to manipulate if we are constantly getting played. It's not consistent. We aren't emotionally stupid and we are actually quite attuned to how others feel. We are also only selfish to a point. We aren't doormats, but we aren't out only for ourselves either. We are an Idealist type. Manipulation has a negative connotation in our society, but ALL social interaction is manipulation of some sort. And if we are manipulating, it is not always for selfish reasons. We might be manipulating you so you don't do something you will regret later or which will have dire consequences. As idealists, we want to make the world a better place. And when I personally get into not caring about it, I simply withdraw from investing into it. It's not worth my energy or time. Te Child wants to believe in a good figure, but we end up often VERY disappointed when someone proves to be immoral
And the idea we have no talent? Um, ENFPs are VERY creative. We might not be artisan types, but we are idealists. Quite good at philosophy and debate, and crafting ideas that make sense so that others can follow it. We also make good writers and communicators. We understand people in a way not many other types do. There is a reason the type is called The Advocate. Ti Trickster Literally ANYTHING can be true, and we can see the other side of the issue.
I know you've said to me before that you wouldn't be where you are without an ENFP, but I do detect a level of negative cognitive bias in regards to ENFPs that are not present with the other types you've done.
Its not wonder ENFPs get involved in MLM's more than any other type :P
@@CSJosephMLM is stupid. I’m ENFP here. A friend tried to sell to me into her MLM scheme. I didn’t realise that is MLM but I didn’t see the sense and logic behind her ‘business’ idea, so I wasn’t convinced. Until I explained it to my INTJ mom, that was when she explained to me that is MLM. And I was like yeah now I know why I find it stupid.
So no I don’t do MLM. Even when I do sales related stuff, I don’t scam people or lie to them. I only sell them a product or idea that I well-informed of and have full confidence that it is a good product or idea. If not, I am not being true and authentic, and that is against my Fi morals.
I found out I’m an ENTP when he started arguing with tai lopez and he wasn’t even there and realized I do that all the time.
Nice video Chase! I hope you do a comparison video between the INTP and INFP as well!
Skarical Core yes! Would love that (INFP here)
Please, Chase
Looking for an opinion with someone with Si inferior, but I've heard it described in a few ways.
1. Afraid of not learning from past mistakes.
2. Constantly reliving negative experiences when in the grip.
3. Constantly forgetting my past behavior was a mistake, thus I do not learn from it.
These are some of the other ways I've heard it manifests in a person.
Enfps dont make decisions based on their mood. Enfps make decisions based off their morals. They become moody when they go against those or they see others being immoral. Maybe just like an entp going against their truth or thinking people are stupid would make entps moody. I actually think moods are connected to all of the functions. Maybe being moral comes off as more moody because it's a high bar to set when we see immorality occurring on such a regular basis and because capitalism tempts and tests our morals on such a regular basis....or this might be my parent talking. I'm open to criticism, as we all should be... Dang, I do sound annoying dont I? But hey that's what we are here for. To make sure everyone is being the best person they can be lolol...now, who wants to date me? LOL
Still think your awesome though chase. Despite any differences we may or may not have about this topic : p
Mood and morals are the same thing.
@@CSJoseph From my perspective they are not the same thing and I'd like you to at least hear me out since I am an upper function Fi user whearas your type would naturally lack an experiential understanding of Fi. I think what you think Fi is, is actually the mood that is the result of Fi and not Fi itself. The only way you can truly understand Fi is to understand the internal process. To make my point clear, did you know your Ti comes off as a mood as well? You convey mannerisms and vocal tone consistent with arrogance/frustration as you use it sometimes (no judgment though. This is just an evaluation of your mood). But I also wouldn't say your Ti is a mood like you're saying Fi is a mood. I dont know what the internal process of Ti looks like because I'm an enfp. All I see is someone saying "this is true!" or "this isnt true!" just like all you see an Fi user doing is saying "this is right!" or "this isnt right!" Both come off moody without a clear explanation of the inner process that people are not seeing. I do think that Fi also comes with an awareness of what I feel but I think that it is just an additional attribute of Fi. Im not just randomly feeling things. I'm feeling things as a result of value judgments that I develop rationally. But anywho this is why I dont think you should be able to say Fi is a mood if I cant say Ti is a mood. If youd ever like to have a discussion about it I'd love to talk to you more about morals/values. Like I said, I can give you a first person perspective (or another because I'm sure you've had many)
Mood is not the same as morals! I have so many moods Id Love to act, on but I have to ignore them because..Morals.
INTJ- no way I can drive and talk and make eye contact with the camera all at once 😩. Well done!
@@theflash5523 Not normally. It's either one thing at a time or nothing at all.
🔮 Ne 🔮 really helps with "multitasking" aka just switching between tasks rapidly
That's bullshit, you can totally do all of those things at the same time, you'll also crash into all of the things at the same time too therefore you're multitasking even more than Chase!
#INTP Giggles.
Bro. I know right
@@theflash5523 Def not
As an ENTP, I absolutely love ENFP's and am always trying to date them. Haha. Unfortunately, the three I've dated in the past 6 months have actually insinuated, in one way or another, that I seemed mildly autistic. 😂 They still loved my company though, so I guess that says something.
Terrible argumentative match, you want NJs
@@mattmatthewmatchuuHad a relationship with an ENTJ for 4 years. Extreme intellectual prowess and had the memory of a god, was one of the most entertaining conversationalists and person to argue with. I would say he was exceptionally intelligent, even for an ENTJ. I still won many of the arguments/discussions, but he was absolutely challenging and stimulating in that way, more so than anyone I've yet to meet.
While I appreciated the balance of his structure, I found myself craving more emotion and feeling. I like ENFP's not because they're fun to argue with, they absolutely aren't and get offended by even the smallest benign comments, but because they offer me affection and emotion in the ways that I want it while also still being intelligent and creative with their ideas. I want to be challenged emotionally now, since I do see the value in being a more feeling person.
INTJ's don't tend to like me, I talk too much and too erratically for them I think. I'm sure if I tried to temper myself for the first few engagements with 'em they'd warm up, but I really can't help but smother people in a thousand questions on dates. ENFP's love it as they love talking, particularly about themselves.
How are you still alive? Two ENPs in the same room would build such chaotic energy I go dizzy just by thinking of it
What a gay entj? Give me his number, entp here.
@@mattmatthewmatchuu Haha, yeah, I think he'd like a break from ENTP's after me.
How do I find ENTPs who are mature? All I see are immature ones I want nothing to do with...
find ones with rough pasts they have overcome
I've been burned so bad by the 2 ENFP I know, they can be so selfcentered and think they deserve everything that is good and think that everybody has wronged them. But at the same time I've seen them go the extra 100 miles to help someone else and act as if it is the most normal thing to do, it's really amazing. They're like 2 people in 1, I tend to avoid them, they can be soooo manipulative. I have yet to meet a healthy ENFP.
U havent meet most healthy ones
@@monmamelo5832 yeah, that's what I said
Why do I feel nervous around ENFP women? - Intj
“Ty Lopez! Ty Lopez!” And all the ENFP’s listening are contemplating suicide. I think ENFP is Bojack Horseman and ENTP is Rick and Morty
There’s nooooo way bojack is an enfp
@@specialburrito rather mr penatbutter
I think those tests are looking for more than just Ti. I think Ne plays a large part.
Dude, I love you.
I love the topic. The tangents detract from the quality by idk 10-20% and are obvi bc you're driving. You'll have to weigh the trade-off between quality and output, bc obviously filming in your car will allow you to do more videos. Thanks for the material, CSJ. The fact that you are doing this for everyone is really cool. And these are the two types I'm most interested in, so I'm obviously a big beneficiary of that. Xo (in a totally straight way)
Actually now that I've seen a higher % of the video I would say the quality reduction is less than 10-20%. You're good at doing the whole car thing. It's kind of crazy
aye
Its so neat
Ne articulation and development of a delineated definition is like a concrete system for the supernatural made tangible via the abstract nature of language
You're right about enfps wanting to find out who is in charge but for me it's because I want to outsource my thinking because that makes me feel safer than trying to make my own decisions.
Arguing only for the sake of coming to the next reference point rather than to get the truth. My god I feel called out. If someone argues effectively with me and contradicts my points, I'll just say "fine. I don't care that much about the subject anyway". Then I will go away and process it and next time change my argument to incorporate the new data points without even acknowledging that I conceded or changed my belief - I'll just drop it in as if I've always believed that.
I'm really good at admitting I was wrong morally, but I'm so bad at admitting I was wrong with information. I am working on it thought because it alienates people and makes me feel crap.
I am someone who knows the logical fallacies too and can readily spot them in others and in my self - but I literally don't care about fallacies if I am attached to an idea.
Also, I have tons of talent but I can imagine a lot of us don't.
And yes I was totally lost and depraved until I believed in God. That's definitely changed me and given me happiness.
Well said
Been waiting FOREVER for this as I am unsure which type I identify with more. This helped me loads. Total ENTP, represent 💪🏽🤙🏽
Shaka!
Ne = ping pong ball with a time space jet pack.
Oh my goodness. As en ENFP I already know this will be TEA. LOL, I want a second chance at befriending an ENTP since the first time ended so badly. I really do identify with them in a lot of ways. I don't even know if an ENTP would actually want to be friends with me if he knew I was all about morality. I would definitely take what I think was your suggestion from another video, and interject a lot of, "I think your lying" or "just be honest with me".
I think it is way more tougher for an infj to tell what kind of people they should be around because most of the time it is exhausting for them.. I guess infj will be way more happier and productive all by themselves because it's sometimes exhausting to go all out of your way still you won't be good enough for people.. and you leave and suddenly one fine day they know your value... it's strange it's better this way that you go around help them build themselves learn few things from them cherish your meetings and leave... I know it sounds alienating people but it's not rather you are not stagnating and just learn it is a materialistic world where people care about materialistic success which you won't be able to provide so give what you can and just leave...good for everyone
A good covert contract analogy for you and why it is bad and manipulative:
You know the people who come to your car whilst you're standing in traffic jam and start whiping your windshield and then expect you to pay them? That's a covert contract and it's not okay.
well said
I had a really good time watching this 😂 you can be so funny sometimes
Can you compare ENTP to ISFJ/INTJ/ESFP. I am interested in seeing the differences in all ego type compared to their unconscious/subconscious/super demon. I have watched season 2 and season 15 twice starting on my third time along with reading books on your list. Each time I feel that I solidify what type I am, I go into a state of analysis paralysis.
"failure only makes him stronger"
I can see the fire and wind coming from your ESFP superego which you show in your videos when you are livid.
Can we get a video explaining the relations of the Earth's elements to the cognitive functions?! Astrology TH-cam needs a little competition in that regard
Soon
I love ENxPs. Some of my best experiences have been shared with these types. Ne hero is fascinating to me.
CSJ you should do a video on the %'s of each type compared to the population. Sounds like there is conflicting info going around
you're kinda annoying, but love your passion put into this work though, I personally disagree with some of your statements, but I admire your way of thinking
Lmaooooo
26:15 the first time I hear somebody else say it. I classified them this way to make sense of the zodiac to some degree too.
Appreciate all your hard work CSJ. The ENFP info specifically has helped me have much better interactions with my ENFP friend as an INTP. I've been doing things exactly the wrong way for years. I may have even been unintentionally hurting her feelings all that time. We've had noticeably more positive back and forths since I found your channel. Thanks a ton. I'll send you some $$$ at the next Q&A.
thanks bro
my ENFP friend sometimes predicts what (I an INTP) does, and i see through it and do the opposite just to throw him off.
Tony Robins and Conor have more feminin then masculine energy ? I don’t think so
Hey man, if you can write on a whiteboard while driving the car then you are an enfp. Since you didnt that is a sure sign youre a true ENTP. I do the same thing. Sometimes i wish i could be multi tasked but then i really dont need to be a hippie. Enfp have hip pies. That they like throwing at peoples faces who try to control them. So, to all other personalities, dont ever try stifling an enfp. Doesnt end well. Also, dont try to stifle ENTP cuz ENTP will turn D.A on your azz in a heartbeat if you piss them off. Thats cuz ENTP is DA dopest personality of all. You will never know what ENTP has up their..... This is how you know the difference between ENTP and ENF....
I’m an entp and my best friend is an enfp. She thinks she’s an enfj. But she’s not. We’re wonderful tho.
I'm an ENTP, my mom is an ENFP. We've had arguments where she asserts that we're in the control of an evil authority; to which I respond that, no (it's worse), we're in the control of a stupid authority. We've also had morals vs ethics arguments.
Chase, please be super careful. You're making my Ne parent anxious when you drive while giving lectures.
Dude, what ENFP hurt you? You’re projecting so hard I need popcorn and a slushie.
would you say this about all the 16 types? After you bothered to watch them all?
@@CSJoseph Nice try dude, but I'm not giving you any more views.
@@Philigan87 lol he criticizes every type. You NFPs like to think the world revolves around you. No one cares about your 1 view
@@andytheawesomeness Well you replied to it so you clearly do.
Dude watch all his video and you now that Chase is critical on every type including his own type.
If you don’t like how he expresses himself, listen to message instead focussing on the words.
You get used to his education style and Chase really knows whats he is talking about.
HOLY SHIT AT 24:36 when you said you never forget anyone who screwed you over. That is so me! And I know those eyes you give when you said that!!! That's me!!!!
-ENTP
Regardless, I didn't know who Ty Lopez was (thought you were mentioning a terms regarding Ti called Lopez), only when I listened and questioned myself what was Ti Lopez as you went on with the analysis, I went reading the comment to see if there was anyone got confused, found out there was this Ti Lopez, and then Ty Lopez revealed as a mystical identity, so I went on and search for Ty Lopez, wow, he was the guy interrupted my good TH-cam flow with his ads every time I found something so interesting to watch. No wonder why you mentioned him Ty Lopez, the thing is, he isn't any interesting or having any depths. If talking about ENFPs, I like Gary Vaynerchuk best, at least he is more honest.
Anyhow, I came here because I am confused if I am ENTP or ENFP. I think I am still ENFP. And you are right, ENFPs fecking hold crunches just in case LOL. ENFPs ain't so forgiving as they appear to be.
Do you believe in absolute true or false? Or do you believe in absolute right or wrong? Since you're Ne Dom, you will question if you've actually found absolute "blank". You'll question if someone is saying absolute "blank". Also do you prefer externally validated facts or externally validated moral ethics? Do you prefer to solve the group's problems or do you prefer to keep the group in harmony. You either categorize things as true or false by yourself and steal your morality from the group. Or you categorize things as right or wrong by yourself and steal your thoughts from the group.
Another gold mine!!!
26:00 That carisma, that charm, that smiling all time, that warm, that jokes, his tousand of books(ne), his caotic and no clear JKD philosofy(Ne), his Dont think, feel!(Fi), his be shapeless like water(Ne+Fi), his express yourself, be honest and know yourself because is very dificult(Fi)
Bruce Lee was a total ENFP my friend.
probably not.
C.S. Joseph Bruce lee last interview, yea very probable.
C.S. Joseph because some page say Steve Jobs is istp don’t prove that , is not acurrate, another pages say he is entj. Same with Bruce lee, he can be another type. that philosophy is very Ne
Interesting that you associate Ne with WATER since I have associated the following verse with Ne: "Put out into the DEEP water and lower your nets for a catch!"
Can enfp become sensor by pretending they are sensors?
Proud ENTP here, just stumbled across this after discovering ENFP girl and experiencing another 'shaman vs. shaman' experience that I have i hopes for, but bad Si experiences in the past with entp/enfp possible interest (always burned).
Anyway- rambling, started this only to say - 100% nailed everything. Especially 'shaman' analogy. And now onward to see if you still post anymore. 😂
Leonardo DiCaprio publicly stated that he is an INTP. And all that know him will attest that he is very introverted in private.
ill take him being an NTP
Where did he say that Jared? Also, I'm not really into astrology, but that is weird if he really is an INTP, cuz so am I - and we are both also Scorpio's born in the year of the tiger.
Talk about dedication LMAOO
Tangent-- Have you seen the film "Definitely, Maybe?" If so, can you type the characters? I think Isla Fisher plays an ENFP, Ryan Reynolds plays an ENFJ, and Elizabeth Banks plays an INFJ. I have no clue about Rachel Weisz's character.
I have not.
Wow! entp here, first video ive seen from you, and ive literally never heard someone describe me and understand me so well
You are so weird with the board while your driving I love it.
Entp here, just trying not to start an debate about the meaning of metaphysics. 🤞
ENFPs aint that rare
Indeed, they make up about 8% of the population. It's the ENTPs that are rare at approximately 3% of the population.
They all over facebook spreading fake news
Matthew Cowan I cried 😂😂😂
ENTPs are actually slightly rarer than INTPs.
Posted this elsewhere but I think its important to consider..Not that I think commonality/rareness is important but Enfp according to a book chase referred his audience to, Please Understand Me by David Keirsey, we are actually only 2 to 3 percent of the population. Infps are also pretty rare so based on what my Ne picks up from observing people and types, and what I've been reading, I'd say Estjs and Esfps often mistype themselves as enfps or for the estj, they mistype themselves as infp as well..we live in a society where people would rather be rare than accurate. None of my friends like when I type them as an S because I'm in academia and people for some reason think Ns are better at academics. Nah. Thats not always the case. Most people I know in my field (phd program in psych) are estjs or istjs. I would love to meet a true enfp. I have yet to. The only duplicate N I've met so far is infp and intj. The intj makes sense because again, I'm in academia and this is their arena. As far as infp goes, one of them is my younger sister. Oh and I do think I have spotted another entp in my program. Not sure yet cuz I'm approaching slowly lol
At 7:51, CS Joseph states first and foremost about ENFPs:
"ENFPs you know they are scheisters..."
There are other items in past videos demonstrating a negative bias against ENFPs as well.
Either Chase S Joseph needs to find some more positive individuals in his life, or I, as a close to 50 year old ENFP, must be some odd type of outlier, or exceptional ENFP.
Or,.. I am somehow in denial of myself being a "scheister."
I suppose then I must be a scheister, and delusional in my introspective thinking. Damn, and I thought that today was going to be a good day. Ha!
I agree. I think he has quite a bias on this one. I'm an INTJ and have a lot of ENFP experience and they take their mask off with me.
Sure I know he is joking a little to describe the characters.
I think what's happening is his idea or definition for these things isn't accurate to the dictionary I know I don't always stick to the meanings of words in the dictionary
Almost certain in an ENTP but I’m pretty organized, which leaves me to wonder if this whole thing is BS in the first place.
You sound and look like an ESTP to me :p
As an entp,I am organised too...can't stand messy..
P and J is MBTI and not 8 cognitive function theory. You can be organized and be a P type. J just means you extrovert your first judging function. If you are organized it could be because you value organization because everyone else values it's. So it could be your Fe. You could also have a decent Si which gets annoyed by inconsistent sensory input. Meaning your brain detests messiness. That being said, Ne-Ti are not known for being organized. Fe and Si, yes.
I was wondering if I was an ENFP, ENTP or ENTJ. I'm definitely NOT ENFP or ENTP. Thanks for making this very clear to me.
If going to www.udja.app doesn't work, download the free type grid companion at csjoseph.life and work through that, you'll get your answer. Or if you're impatient you can always get a 15 min typing session.
I giggle at the way you say mood
Stefan is one of my favorite people. And Ego Hackers sounds dope, let’s keep it
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When you make enfp impressions I'm like, nope. Can't relate. When I see authority figures I have respect for them. And if they are humble I admire that they managed to get ahead without letting their accomplishments go to their head.
Do I befriend them? No. Am I respectful? Yes. Do I want favours? Couldn't play those games even if I tried.
I genuinely don't think you have the a correct understanding of us enfps.
Or you are making judgments assuming you aren’t mistyped. You sound like an INFJ
I'm the same, I respect authority and institutions. I'm an ENFP, I'm extroverted AF. I don't think your mistyped.
I always ask ppl "what do you thinking about *insert random wacky/odd idea* ?" So i guess I am more Ti then Te.
Knowledge isn't free. You have to pay attention.
Hi Chase! Is Camille Paglia an ENFP who is common mischaracterized as ENTP? Just used your type grid and am slowly learning. Just passing by, I guess it's been long enough to remind you I highly admire and appreciate your warnings and predictions towards the future :)
Shout out to San Jose! Used to live there growing up - got to visit there again a month ago right before the corona virus shutdown and see Mount Umunhum with the box (building) on top to navigate to.
So if the ENFP is more scholarly but the ENTP is more intellectual, does this mean that when an ENFP is good at school it’s because they can just spit out all of the facts, and if an ENTP but as much effort into school as the ENFP they would be able to also understand it not just regurgitate the information?
I think every NTPs have this "just in case" mentality lol. Do you agree with me?
Is this because of hero/parent Ne?
Idk but I and my other ntp friend both do this
15:34 the accent
I'm an ENFP who dual majored in Religious Studies and Philosophy. I have done alot of reading besides school also. It's been a while since I've read a book though. Maybe I should get back into it. But I've been binging on CS Joseph! yeah!
1) Wow the thing that really nailed me being an Ne Dom was the Ni worry about the future and needing to be grounded (Si) in some belief/philosophy. That was the only thing that pulled me out of depression. Everything else that you said, I couldn't quite nail down in myself, but the belief thing is 100% accurate (and is also in my astrology: moon (emotions) in 9th house (house of philosophy)).
2) It sucks that we can't learn from others' mistakes. I'm trying to read as much as I can and I've been trying to do a thing where I notice a little mistake in myself and quickly extrapolate that into the future, see the impact of it, and fix it in myself before I have to fail on a larger scale in the future. Eg. seeing hints of emotional unavailability, hints of impatience, hints of anger issues before I'm in really bad situations. I think it's learning more from theory/data points of my own experiences vs. from others'. I hope this will prevent me from some future failures and isn't part of the Se blind thing. What do you think? Is avoiding failure in this way possible for ENFPs?
There' s a distinction there. You can make changes as an Si user but you can't learn the lessons of failure from someone else like an Se user can.
Hello Joseph,
Earlier I left a comment on the ENFJ about JP. I watched your majority of your type videos and have incorporated that into my analysis. Now I know you do not like and therefor you probably do not watch him a lot. I have watched hours of his content and watched many interviews when he describes himself and his future goals.
He seems informative, initiating, and movement based. He talks about his new projects he's starting constantly and in his Schedules is constantly moving to the next thing and that what he prefers he hates stagnation by his own words. Sounds like a starter type. I believe he is an idealist as opposed to intellectual as he always for seeing the untapped potential in people and wants to bring that out in people. Bring out their Ideal future selves. Also the man talks about topics in Affiliative way as opposed to pragmatic.
I believe the man has Fi and Te as opposed to the Fe and Ti. I've noticed that Fi users will state what they feel about something regardless if it disrupts social disharmony and will talk about how they will not do something or will do something because of moral obligation. There are few clips of of JP doing just that. Also after watching your videos I learned what to consider Te, when JP speaks he brings up reference points all the time constantly citing sources and their status. What's more impressive is how he remembers it all. If he had Si as his inferior function he could be tapping into his ISTJ subconscious. I'd also like to mention that in his latest talks he really harps adopting responsibility as to key to improving oneself, I assume this man talks from personal experience and if understand Si inferior correct one thing they have hard time with is adopting responsibility and routine. If that is the case that might be why he gives that advice clean your room.
I actually believe you typed him correctly from the sample you had in the JP typing video, I think the problem is that you need a larger number of samples to get a more accurate average of the interaction styles used. As you yourself know that people can be in other sides of the mind. In conclusion I do not believe JP is an INTP, I will not say what his type is as I want to gather more data. I think your method of typing is good, but requires many samples to get more accurate representation over time. I know you have Te critic, but please be open to consideration. I've noticed you mentioned his type with absolute certainty in a couple videos and if there is a possibility that he's not an INTP well, I'm not sure how you would feel. I know I comment a lot, if it gets annoying just tell me to stop
I have read his book and watched many of his lectures outside the context of that typing session. He is an INTP.
@@CSJoseph I understand more now, and I agree with your statement.
Funny how Tai Lopez has typed himself as ESTP before.
Quick question - How do you get an ENFP to stop acting like they’re morally superior to others? I (24f) have struggled with this myself but am able to keep it in check. However, my 11 year old half-sister who is also an ENFP is driving me and the rest of the family CRAZY with this. She’s so condescending to our other siblings and always insinuating that they’re bad people because their moral compass is different from hers. This is especially hard for my 13 year old INTP half-brother to deal with. Nobody wants to hang out with her now because she’s so critical of them. How would you combat this? Thank you!
Criticize them. They are likely to change.
What do you mean by NJs have all the talent in the world? (compared to NPs - who have to work hard) Thank you for any clarification.
The fable of the tortoise (NPs) vs. the Hare (NJs)
@@CSJoseph Thanks for the reply. The NJs fit the nature of the consistent tortoise more than the scattered hare. (The hare changes direction more often than the tortoise) Hence, NPs far more convincingly fit the nature of the hare.
Damn, as an entp I gotta say hands down and huge respect to you since you are probably the only person who is able to accurately describe the
place (espeicially within the social world) of each type.
One thing I have about the learning thing. Wouldn't ni heros be kind of best people at learning and personal growth since their se demon drives them to learn from all the mistakes people do around them so they can implement them for themselves in the future as a tool?
I feel like with si inferior I keep making the same mistakes since childhood not really ever learning since I'm often to lazy for the whole trial and error game and alao to lazy to keep going over my stuff in order to figure out where I went wrong. And somtimes I even ignore it all together because my ti system made so much sense before so the factual information that needs to be implemented kind of gets ignored. I would probably say that intjs are probably the best at this game of learneing and implemennting and growing to get better. Maybe I should start integrating my intj subconcious more or my inferior functions. 🤔
Sorry for my little ramble haha.
Your videos are truly useful and beneficial and I am glad you are bring this knowledge to people in the world, continue with that ^^
Se users can learn from others mistakes but Si users have to make the mistake themselves for the most part.
I have taken 3 different tests that isolate the functions and suss out consistency in answers etc.... each time I come out as Ne Fe Ti Se. Crazy. Is that why I appear to be a contrarian INFJ? lol
Entp
Great Lecture
Good or bad is subjective because we all have different biological temperaments, meaning different people will literally get different amounts of reward or punishment in their brain circuits, a great example being how some people respond much more strongly to social pain than others. It's not purely genetics, it's also your methylation markers and conditioned responses over time. Now, you could argue that on a societal level, if the majority of people have a similar response to a situation, that's what should be the commonly accepted "good or bad" in the society. Of course, that's dangerous because individual diversity is a real thing!! If you focus on the whole you tend to neglect the individuals and if you focus on appealing to minorities, it can be a problem for the whole. This type of conundrum is at the heart of arguments about how we should set up our society and govern it most effectively - do we optimize for the whole or for the parts?
As for absolute truth, that's what you have when you can test an idea or Theory repeatedly and it's successful every time. Newton's laws are a great example of a deep truth in our universe - they're accurate in a very very wide range of contexts, to the point that we sent a rocket to the moon using them. (They fail at the quantum level.) Or another one is the Deep structure of language and religion that you find in all cultures, even one that have had no contact with our modern society - it's just an innate truth to Human Nature.
Where things get murky is when you go from the concrete to the abstract, because there's no guarantee that you have a common reference for what an abstract concept means when you're talking to another person. Some people associate an idea with an emotion, whereas others may associate that same idea with a system they have in their head which they use to make decisions, and I believe that difference in association is the distinction between Fi and Ti users.
Ultimately, what we're doing is we are gathering information from the world and deciding what to do with it in our own unique way - INTPs gather that information over time and try to assemble it to form theories about what to do in the future (even if the future just means this afternoon) while ISFPs will gather information primarily from the moment and use it to decide what they feel like they want to do right now.
Learning about types allows us to understand others better and to know how to interact in the world better, which is extremely valuable to the overall quality of life for everyone on this planet today and into the future. This is why I care about it and I believe this is why Chase cares about it as well.
Interesting thoughts... Hmm 😉
Lin Yen Chin Your comment reads like a mathematical proof to me - is that Ti in action?
I can see that in my comment I'm mostly combining ideas from sources I've read - I counted 17 books that I referenced throughout that comment. I suppose that is a very Te thing to do. If that's Te, then what would a Ti user do?
You just made me realize that if-then logic is not the same thing as question-answer logic. However it still appears to me that if-then logic requires axioms in order to work - you need to have a reference for what "1" means in order to understand what "1+1=2" means. How do I know the difference between using sources as an axiomatic reference and using them in a Te manner?
Where can I learn more about logic and thinking? I don't understand.
Just spent some time researching the thinking functions. I absolutely do use extraverted thinking, especially when I'm entertaining and hashing out ideas, sort of like a tentative brainstorming session. Then once I have a general structure laid out, I use introverted thinking to come to a solid conclusion. The finalizing process is very time-consuming and tedious however, so introverted thinking is probably low in my function stack. I care about finding the real truth so I doubt it's a trickster or demon function but you never know.
Still inconclusive but it's another clue. Thanks for calling me out
@@linyenchin6773 You're correct that I did not take the time to make sure that my text was internally coherent to an external reader. I figured a reader would take each individual idea and compare it to their internal framework of understanding. My thinking is that the broader internal framework of understanding an individual holds is more important than the consistency within a few paragraphs. But I suppose it makes sense that to an external reader, if they don't see consistency within my paragraphs, they will assume that I don't have internal consistency within myself. However, even if you assumed that, my goal is for you to take the information I conveyed and compare it to your own internal framework.
Take for example the type theory that Chase is proposing throughout this channel. I have a lot of models in my head about neuroscience, psychology, personal anecdotes etc and when I listen to a Chase lecture, I'm constantly comparing everything he says to my personal experiences and internal models. There's very often a mismatch - eg the orbitofrontal cortex in the brain interfaces your limbic system with your thinking and uses your emotional state to modulate your thinking processes in real time - If this is true it might not make sense for the thinking and feeling functions to be separate from each other because this means they must have some sort of relationship to each other. My reaction to that is that type theory may already account for this and I'm just not expert enough at it yet, or perhaps in Chase's Theory they are referring to feeling and thinking in a different way than the orbitofrontal cortex model in neuroscience. If that's true, then combining the theories would require some reworking of definitions and language. In spite of these inconsistencies I constantly see, I realize that the idea of introverted thinking and introverted ceiling can be applied without having to appear consistent with the model of emotion in neuroscience because what they actually do is inform my deeper internal theory that I have in my own head.
Based on that, I'm not sure how strong I am at Ti because I have a hard time coming up with a consistent theory that incorporates both neuroscience and type theory.
If I'm going to take two different theories and see if I can form a new Theory out of them, I have to lay out several ideas next to each other and compare them to see if I can extract a Common Thread:
- Ti is a judging function that looks for internal consistency and truth
- Te is a judging function that looks for external consistency and applicability
- Fi is a judging function that looks for commonalities amongst different experiences to find a common moral code that emerges within the self
- Fe is a judging function that looks for commonalities amongst the larger emotional climate of the world and for the most effective moral approach that satisfies that external reality
Then I would cross reference those facts with some other ideas in my head:
- emotion is an affective state that primes your brain to perceive the world in terms of specific patterns of action. if you're sad, everything from your attention to your memory to your thinking style will be modulated by that state. Neurons that fire together, wire together
I would probably compare that idea first before moving on to others. I might ask how it's possible for emotions to modulate your thinking and for type Theory to be true at the same time. I would come up with ideas like:
- the way that your emotions modulate your thinking is inherently represented in the function stack
- the function stack merely represents your *conscious awareness* of the different functions, not how much they affect your decision-making
- the way someone's judgment Works depends on their current effective state. If your ego is on the Ti-Fe axis, then you are not being affected by Te or Fi. However, if you switch States then you've done a cognitive transition and you're no longer affected by Ti-Fe when you're in your unconscious.
Then I would just repeat that process and look for inconsistencies and new theories I could generate that would help explain the existing theories or integrate them or prove them wrong.
So my real question now is if that type of logic is an example of Te or Ti? Is that internal set of facts actually Si because it's my long-term memory or are the facts I'm comparing to actually the >>internal framework
@@linyenchin6773 Hi, I'm still pondering over your replies. I used "morals" because I wasn't really thinking about it, I meant ethical. I don't understand the difference from an experiential standpoint yet, only the logical definitions.
There's a book Made to Stick by Chip and Dan Heath that talks about how to effectively get the ideas in your head into someone else's head in a way that sticks. I bring this up because even though your logic may be concise and very coherent, I can't see your thought processes so I don't really know where you're coming from. I'm not a "show your work" type unless I'm communicating with other people. If I'm just writing in the journal or hashing things out for myself, I don't mention ideas that I've gathered externally.
@@linyenchin6773 I think before I go further with this discussion, I need to really think about what "abstract" means. If I can figure this out, it'll take me to a new level of awareness and thinking. Hopefully the following writing doesn't have a bible-thumping feel to it, I'm trying to be clear.
In my first grade class, we had a demonstration about abstraction - the teacher showed us a purple ball and then a basketball. She argued that at a concrete level, we can directly perceive each ball and understand that we can hold them in our hands, bounce them on the floor, describe their physical appearance Etc. But then she asked us to IMAGINE a generic ball in our heads and describe it. In my head I imagined a Black and white three-dimensional sphere - I could imagine ibouncing it on the floor, I imagined the feeling of squishiness in my hands; I then took it a step further and imagined that there are properties intrinsic to All Balls - balls tend to have a spherical shape, they're typically things you can bounce on the floor and throw and catch; some balls are hard and brittle like glass balsl, and other balls are squishy and bouncy like basketballs. But when I bring up the concept of ball, I know what that means.
So, when you speak of the idea of "ball," do other humans understand what a ball is? What if they've never had an experience with a ball or they don't speak English? How do you get across the idea of "ball" to them? This is my concern with trying to convey ideas through language - how do we know that each person is talking about the same thing when they use a given word or phrase?
If you look at the writings of Descartes, he says that the only thing he found that he could reason with absolutely was the logic of mathematics itself. I like math because we know exactly what we're talking about.
As for me coming across as a bible thumper and NPC, what function am I low in that causes me to do that? Is it Ti? Or what if it's actually Se? I know for sure that my Se is low because my Ne is very high, but I haven't been able to verify whether I'm logical or moralistic in my judgments yet. I use the word feel and "seems" a lot, but I think I'm actually using Ne when I do that.
Anyway, I still haven't thought through this very well. And I apologize if I haven't verified my writing in this message, I would need at least an hour to do that and I don't have time good however, if that's the only way to be clear I guess that would be the more logical thing to do wouldn't it? Maybe not more logical - more effective is probably a better way to put it.
Lmao, you mentioning the ESFP demon/superego saying “see the world burn” is such a Joker thing to say 😂
My question would be: Who are ENTP women ? ;) thanks for the content
A myth, a fairytale
What's a way to tell if someone is a rationale thinker or logical thinker when you're talking to them in conversation?
- Also can you type Conor McGregor in one of your "How to Type" videos because I always thought he was an ESFP after seeing some of his interviews and trying to type him myself and thought he was an Ni + Se user as well as a pragmatic? I think I need a little more understanding on interaction styles when it comes to people using Si + Ne and understanding the difference between Ni + Se.
sure
I went on a date with this ENFP girl once, I remember asking if she remembered about her asking me a year prior and I said no. She lied and said how she didn’t remember, how do I know? Her Si inferior. Dang it, i gotta trust my intuition more.
no enfps pretty common: 8-10% population
Why do you hold a stance against polyamory for NPs given your own past experiences within an open marriage?
I don't actually. People can be poly if they want. It is a legitimate lifestyle. Read Sex at Dawn. I am merely saying it is not for me and in many cases is not recommended, at least for NTPs. I tried it, didn't like it, especially after being victimized by it due to being triple systematic.
INFP: Humanity is broken and no matter the way anyone tries to fix it we are all gunna die and possibly take the Earth with us. So, all we can do is what makes us happy (while minimizing the amt of damage to others)
Disclaimer: My opinion 🤷🏽♀️
Humanity is not broken. So long as I and others draw breath, there is still a chance. People can repent and change.
Whys the discord server only for 18 year olds and up,im turning 18 this year in August btw
Because people use it for nefarious purposes
@@CSJoseph ohhh alright,so when I turn 18 how should I prove it to get unbanned
Truth be told, there's nobody more enfp than stefan molyneux
Hey :) May I know your thoughts about why Stefan is an ENFP?
I believe he is ENFP as well and I'm curious what your logic + reasoning is.
@@RoseMarieMullinsHey, thanks for your comment. I have watched many of his monologues and dialogues. It appears to be that his main intention is to get across a certain(set of ideas/philosophy) regardless of the circumstances, which suggests Te child. He seems to be quite set in as to what his *morals are. For instance, this is right and this is wrong. If he were an entp, he would be more focussed on having the dialogue or monologue instead of getting his belief system across. In terms of Ideas, Molyneux is largely borrowing from ideas that already exist and making minor tweaks to them. He even insists on specifying sources and regards some sources as higher than others(also a Te-Fi trait). If anybody were to disagree, he is sure to mention how he has read all the work, attained credentials etc, (A Te child trait). Further, He largely relates to events that occured in the past, which is an Ne-Si trait. I find that more often than not, enfps tend to hold principles/ideas that somehow involve themselves. For instance, an enfp man would more likely be a men's rights advocate while a women might likely be a feminist. Similarly, a person of colour enfp will more likely be left leaning an so on. Hence, ENFP. Would love to hear your thoughts