As an ISTP who has a plethora of ENFPs that flock to me, he isn't wrong. ENFPs are awesome but when they get into their little me mode it's aggravating. When they are thinking of others without being on the defensive like everyone is going to screw them over, that is where they shine. But every ENFP I've shown his videos about them says the same lol.
I (INFJ) think the ENFP's do not understand what C.S. is referring to. ENFP's must *always* remember that judgement begins at home; this is a particular characteristic implicit in ENFP's. ENFP/Fi confuses the truth of logical reasoning; it is incorrect to interpret C.S.'s "bad vibes" (hurt ENFP/Fi) as meaning ENFP's are "bad" nor "immature", etc. ENFP's are good at journalistic observations of others but they *need* to let others in the community perform *judgements;* ENFP's should learn to judge *themselves* (based upon their behaviour and their values) and *not* others.
Dont mind me just leaving timestamps for a friend.... ^_^ Triple moviment: 02:30 Sell anything: 05:09 Begining of the Function analisys: 07:00.....nvm rant goes on.....16:40.......rant again lol.....17:40 Extra Compatibility: 14:53
Also, corrupted INFJs can corrupt ENFPs. Once again letting your personal negative history affect your judgment of each type. As an ENFP, I have had several negative experiences with INFJs who were already corrupted on their own.
Good lord. I really can't thank you enough for the way you get real honest about ENFP depravity. Almost everybody treats ENFPs with kid gloves. They only talk about us in the most glowing of terms and say that we're "magical," or some such thing. When you mentioned the ENFP who started creating fake accounts, I shuddered, because I did something similar once. In a fit of rage, I once used different alts on Twitter to insult somebody with the worst things I could think of. To this day, it embarrasses me tremendously to even recall it. I am one of the nicest/most charitable people when I am aligned and feeling good, but the risk of going bad is always there. Great video. A lot of ENFPs aren't going to be able to face the music, but I personally applaud you for keeping it real. It gives me further incentive to work on myself to prevent the depravity from coming out again.
INFP in a relationship with ENFP here. We DO motivate each other, we DO comfort each other and we DO speak our minds and believes and everything... its the best and deepest relationship I ever had. Must say that we are both pretty "grown up" healthy types, so that we know ourselfs and what we want and do show that to others.. I dont think that this realtionship would have worked 10 years ago when each one of us (exspecially me) was still searching about what matters in life.
i love you and you hate us ENFPs! :( i definitely could not be a salesperson. ive always worked in health care and have a passion for helping people -not conning them! i hope you meet some genuinely nice ENFPs one day and stop giving us such a bad rap!
The way I see it is we're not selling a product or service to anyone. We're more like selling ideas to people, where we can see them go in life. Helping them that way.
He's right I reckon I would make a very good second hand car sales person and would take pride in selling something difficult to sell. Only thing is if the car is a piece of junk my values would stop me from doing it.
I’m actually relieved that there is an explanation for my angry outbursts. Many online descriptions sugar coat ENFP traits like we’re these bubbly wanderfluffs. I’ve had a bad temper that I needed to take ownership of and accountability for through anger management counseling. It helps no one to only be built up constantly. It’s through huge mistakes in my life that were called out mercilessly, that I was able to grow.
This reminded me of Will Smith '-' And myself too cause when that happened to him it made me realize lots of stuff about myself. As I know, he's an ENFP and I fucking KNOW how bad he's feeling for having that behavior at the Oscars and that made me try to pay more attention to that anger inside myself. We gotta be very careful when it comes to that subject. We are awesome kind hearted people, but under stress we can do tons of shit.
Your ENFP personality is still influenced by our growing up experiences and trauma life brought,, dysfunctional parents,, etc.. I hope you find healing. Books by Louise Hay helped me. I started with "You can heal your life".
Yeah ENFPs should surround themselves with as many healthy xNFJs as possible. I did most of my self development on my own and the journey towards maturity (depraved to charitable) was VERY rocky. Their positive influence would have made the journey a thousand times easier.
What’s happened is that he’s seen ENFP in shadow mode, and he is right: we will beat the living snot out of someone-total blackout style if they cross our values or try to screw us. We don’t want to go there, but ENFPs that have been screwed over too many times will completely throw away feeling and see red.
I'm an ENFP and my favorite personality type is INFP. All my closest friends are INFPs (or ENFPs), we are all open minded and accepting, all have interests in culture, arts, society, human emotions. Not very "productive" together, but our beliefs do not match with capitalistic ones I would say. We are all dreamers, feelers, and create a world of our own, a language of our own. We laugh and joke like children and have deep end meaningful conversations. My relationships / friendships with INFPs are the most intense, meaningful and deep connections I have ever experienced. The majority of the people in my friend group are diplomats (we all met randomly, never worked or went to school together, just met randomly and clicked so kept on seeing one another and introducing each other to our mutual friends. Became a friend group over time, all kind of insane, accepting and supportive of one another, with a deep desire to connect and experience meaningful relationships and love). Idk... Just sounds really weird to me that there would be such an incompatibility between INFPs and ENFPs.
ENFP here. This is frighteningly accurate and so awesome. CS, you are the ENFP Whisperer... I have enjoyed marriage to a wonderful INFJ for 36 years. Fascinating insight into why it works! I once had an ESTJ boss, which was total frustration and grief. Thanks for another fantastic lecture.
As harsh as he is about us enfps he's so right especially about the infj compatibility making us better people. I am soooo thankful I grew up with my older infj sister, made me who I am
It is interesting that you infer that IQ tests are biased more towards Te types. Considering the abstract nature of IQ tests, and how some questions are formulated, I would say that Ti users should be able to score quite well on it. In fact, there has been some data on that, which states that the ones with the highest IQ according to the MBTI are the INTPs. Also, how do IQ tests follow ethos more than logos? The questions are usually based on logical patterns (if this is this, then what is this?). As far as I know, ethos is based on credibility/trust. To score high on an IQ test, there is no requirement to trust on a source. All we do is to deduct which answer would be the most logical one, according to the pattern given.
Elijah - yes I’ve found patterns in IQ tests that the test writer did not consider and had questions marked wrong. Of course I disputed them but the SJ test giver would have none of it.
Hello I’m an ENFP who’s identical twin is an INFP it’s like gods joke. But I’m actually extremely blessed because I feel that she and I have help each other grow into more mature versions of ourselves. She’s seriously my favourite person in the world.
I am enfp and I love a fellow enfp! Why do you have to destroy the magic? I don't believe your statements about enfp not compatible with fellow enfp. We can be crazy together and get each other
I'm an INFP and I have one INFP close friend and one ENFP friend (none of us mistyped) so I hear you! However it's useful to be aware of that you may have similar strengths and weaknesses in order to counteract that when needed. :)
To think that someone is mistyped simply because they get along with another person of their same personality type is honestly rather ridiculous. Especially when it comes to ENFPs.
Lin Yen Chin there are smart and dumb people within every brand. Catholicism probably appeals more to sensors than intuitives, but both of those perception types can vary in intelligence.
I actually really love all the whining and complaining about ENFP's he does. I am sorry he got burned by one of us.... But his knowledge of what red flags to watch for is amazing and it really comes out when he complains. My (completely amazing) INFJ wife doesn't like his complaining at all....
Interesting. My closest friends are INTPs/ENTPs. The only other type I seem to get along with are ESTPs and sometimes some ESFPs - though I interact with both in a very superficial manner(mostly when just looking for people to have fun or party with). I literally cannot get along with any other sensing types. Their brains seem to be wired in a completely different way I cant grasp and I have had MANY of them label me 'CRAZY or WEIRD' whenever I strike up any conversation with them. I actively avoid all SJs in particular, and generally seem to have trouble with all types that lead with a judging function except INTPs.
My Mother is a depraved ENFP and I am a turbulant INTJ. I am totally on-board with Joseph with this one. Obviously I have somewhat of an emotional connection with Mom, but as a extreme INTJ it is a very turbulent connection. I refuse to submit to her desire to be my overlord, or subjugate me like a dog. Actually she treats her actual dogs better than she treats me most of the time. It drives her hysterically insane every time I do not cave into her tyrannical will. She projects all of her psychotic traits on to me as insults to try to break me down. Like as she actively terrorizes/abuses you she will simultaneously accuse you of being abusive, its truly spectacular. If she was not family I would stay as far away from her as possible. ENFP's are inclined to be emotionally abusive tyrannical terrorists, with zero rational other than what they FEEL in the moment. I absolutely cannot stand the nature of a depraved ENFP, their moral relativity and rapid hysteric emotional reactivity is the most dangerous thing I have ever witnessed in a human being. Like little waves on a beach they slowly erode your self worth until you are nothing left but a empty husk of a person. Onlookers see the little waves as insignificant but over time they do real damage to the person they are eroding. Its dangerous because they sneak up on other people with kindness and their victims rarely see the danger coming. Its like one day you wake up to find the ENFP standing over you with a giant fishing hook through your neck where they proceed to yank you around as they see fit. You are not going to get the hook out unless you tear it out, which will be catastrophic. She screams, yells, throws tantrums, is psychologically abusive, as well as extremely physically abusive to us when we were children, yet when the phone rings she immediately switches to this sweet endearing personality for the phone call. I am not worried by many personality types, it is difficult to intimidate me, but I do not underestimate the level of desolation that ENFP's are capable of. Subjugate you to their will and desire is their ethos. They are the direct antithesis of integrity and every moral value that I firmly hold. I am sure there are many good ENFP's out there, but I am still very cautious about keeping firm boundaries around them. I know I cannot judge all ENFP's by one individual, but damn if they don't have me on guard at all times.
@@Solomon_King_ I'm sorry for your situation! I like levelheaded (as they are) INTJs. It was verry rewarding to come accross Erick Thor's chart of types of personality and their temperamentSSSS. It shows how many of us are mix of many, not just one ( in case of INTJs, you are a pure logic type). I look at the interactions btwn types from the energy perception.Often I find myself in conflict with melancholic/levelheaded types. I would see how underdeveloped ENFP wouldd try and make you be more emotional. ENFP 2w3
@@Solomon_King_ I think he just felt personally attacked. I think Enfp's hate having to spend a lot of time with the same person and as your mother she is forced to. Not a excuse though, whatever type she is you are the one responsable as a parent. I know where she gets it from, i learned myself not to project my blame at people. When someone is mad at you, a lot of people get mad in return. If you take the extra step to try and look what you did wrong it can change an arguement really easily. But i have also found that i am not at all a family person. You should give her some space, and try to make her find out herself what she did wrong. But i do pity you, i find myself absolutely unbearable.
Another reason why ENFPs are so prevelent in Mensa is because ENFPs are the most prevalent intuitive types in society (about 8% of people with it being the 3rd most common type for women of the 16). The average intuitive does much better than the average sensor in IQ tests. "but sensors are smart"!! It is also true that you also see a lot of ISTJs in Mensa. However ISTJs are the most common MBTI in some studies, and they are usually pretty smart SJ type. Of course you will see lots of ISTJs. Intuitives are rare...EXCEPT for ENFP. ENFPs are everywhere and are the most common intuitive type. This is why you see so many in Mensa. Judging IQ intelligence of a type by looking at how common they are in mensa is not a good way. When you look at percentage in society to percentage in mensa you will find INTXs take the prize. No I am not an INTX. I am an ENTP. However, I do dangerously ride the line of ENTP and INTP. I'm not trying to defend my type as smarter. I'm just correcting peoples confusion. Statistics are great, but oftentimes they are used to deceive people when not analyzed correctly and completely. Many people don't analyze statistics correctly and completely. Truth is there are other things other MBTI types are good at (other types of intelligence), but ON AVERAGE the introverted analysts (INTXs), are the smarter (capability to learn and understand academics) types. INTXs usually have worse social intelligence than most other types, (inferior Fe and PoLR Fe are probably to blame) but academically they dominate.
I usually score high in IQ tests but I always get 10/10 on the logic part. I think a lot of people doesnt realize that our Ne hero can actually be a form of intelligence if its used properly. I can easially pick up patterns and use them for my own benefit or find ways to use them (Te I guess), I am also a great problem solver. I am starting to think that IQ and types have little to do with each other. Personality types are like filters you see life through, it sets your priorities and your insecurities, what you enjoy and what you have trouble dealing with. Your type may help you to be more objective than some other type or to prioritize logic over feelings, but that logic can be wrong and not very useful. Same with feelings, if you're prioritizing morals and thise are wrong you're still going to be a bad person, and someone who has Fi last but has the good morals will still be more moral than you are. The way I see it is ppl with different personality types are like kids in a school project, they were all given tasks based on what they are most comfy with/like, but just because kid A got task X doesnt because they like it doesnt mean kid B or C cant be better at it than them. You never know. Because genetics and biology, lifestyle and the way you were raised play a role in it.
“Gosh are you guys rlly gonna be upset about my argument on macro evolution?” LMAO I’m cracking up at how you’re already arguing with the comments in advance 😭😂
Hey, ESTP here I think you're analysis of enfp-estp is very interesting, since many (too many?)of my good friends have been Enfps as well as an enfp female who I believe has been pursuing a relationship with me for a while but like you said they're Ne really overwhelms my Ni alot of the time making me indecisive in establishing romantic relations especially since I'm 90% sure if I asked her out she would say yes in a heartbeat but that 10% uncertainty is really scary...
Its a good romantic relationship, just make sure she stays loyal. Si inferior isn't loyal to just anyone. You really have to have her pegged. But if she desires you already, then its not going to be a big deal. Besides, as an ESTP you already are the archetypical man's man, aka alpha.
Lmao as an ENFP you sure crack me up sometimes man. It might be our common Ne but I love when I’m not the one rambling all the time. The inflection in your voice gives me LIFE.
Haha I love seeing you rant about us ENFPs - it's all painfully true and so insightful! We can be like petulant children who won't shut up about the cocktail of information we acquire from other people and usually need to be guided on how to apply it without ignoring truth. Once I start considering entrepreneurship, I notice that the monetary pay-off becomes like a drug and the selfishness and arrogance starts to manifest. This is why I stick to the arts predominantly and I'm surprised you haven't mentioned examples of ENFP artists, writers, musicians etc. I find that ENFPs consult the Fe critic in themselves more when being creative and that it's easier for ENFPs to climb four mountains rather than just one since they are a Starter type and all. I wonder how other ENFPs feel about this? (Thanks for your videos Chase, they're life-changing- yes that was the typical ENFP bid for adulation, I hate me too, but it's also sincere)
I honestly believe you are talking about our closely related esfp brethren..not the enfp. At least from my perspective, no one has to remind me to care about people unless they raise their voice at me or call me names or disparage me. Even then I have to be tired or it has to be unexpected. Otherwise I love people and love to help. I think many enfps could probably relate to that...esfps are similar but I feel like sometimes there extroverted sensing gets them in trouble. They can get wrapped up in material objects and experiences and since they know people so well, sometimes I feel like they get wrapped up in how to use people to get those things. I like esfps but I feel like I cant be my true self around them because of that. But I have noticed esfps get mistyped as enfps quite a bit...just as one difference to look for, enfps look more like inattentive adhd versus esfps look like hyperactive adhd lol
My sister is an ESTJ and she is sometimes acts like my parent even though I´m older than her. But we have developed and formed each other so much, I motivate her and she keeps me grounded in reality.
I'm an INTP and I once had an INTP acquaintance. He would go off on long rants about aliens and anthropogenic climate change at literally the same time I was going off about Science and (lack of) animal rights...we would just talk over each other all the time. He would actually make the statement: "I know everything. I'm never wrong." To which I'd reply, "You're usually right. You're only wrong when you and I disagree". Lol. He's got the entire periodic table of chemical elements memorized and would list them, lightest to heaviest; which is pretty cool ;)
@@CSJoseph I think it's only useful for impressing other nerds haha...which could actually be considered not useful at all...considering after he listed the chemical elements in order rapid-fire I was quite smitten with him...until I realized he was...me. And he's not a scientist, so you're correct: not useful. Although...maybe this skill could initially attract a nerdy INTJ and technically be considered useful in that fashion...?
This is my second video I've watched of yours about ENFP. I am an ENFP and I think you're funny and not negative. I have a friend who is an ENTP and we get along great. I would NEVER have done the Reddit thing but I can see how it would happen because ENFP's are all about personal branding and reputation. As with anything it's easy to see how a trait that could be used for good can also be used in a negative, shady way. With my ENTP friend, we just had to agree to disagree and focus on the parts of our lives and personalities that we do vibe with - and there are a lot. We have similar interests, for example. The one thing I need to do is avoid heated discussions with him. He loves to play devil's advocate and it confuses me because I can't actually tell all the time what his real opinion it is.
I’m an enfp and my best friend is an infp and we’ve been closer the more virtual our relationship becomes. She lives 3000km from me and I’ve only seen her physically 8 time in the last 10yrs.
C.S. Joseph Understood. Fwiw, I am currently reading the Stoics...thinkers that help me smooth out the occasional tumultuous waves of my Fi. To make it up to me, tell me what you are currently reading. Thanks.
You are right on regarding macro evolution and I concur with the evidence of personality cognitive functions pointing to an intelligent designer. Thank you for throwing this out there.
I'm a male ENFP and I have a close friend who is a female ESTP (I'm fairly certain) who I have wanted a romantic relationship with. We have a great connection and have talked about having that kind of relationship but she's very unsure about actually doing it. Any advice?
Isaac Evans yes, she is just afraid, all you need to do is demonstrate your loyalty in a big way, state how much you value her and prove it to her, also state how comfortable she makes you feel.
Thank you, by the way I really enjoy watching your videos, they make me feel like I can understand myself and others better, and I think your humor is very entertaining.
I have taken quite a number of tests and all of them have typed me as an ENFP. I also can definitely see how the cognitive functions emerge in my psyche in terms of hero extroverted intuition, parent introverted feeling, child extroverted thinking and inferior introverted sensing. All that being said, I have found empirically that I don't get along very well with the xSTP's that I have met because my mind is always in the future and I become pretty frustrated with their live in the moment attitude. Furthermore, I get along with the xNTPs in my life very well and I love their ability to see both sides and offer balanced insight on most matters. I am actually dating an INTP and it's the happiest and healthiest relationship I've been involved with. Other than that, I love your videos and find them VERY insightful. I have been studying MBTI concepts and cognitive functions for about two years now and I find it super fascinating, and your videos have really helped deepen my knowledge on a different level. For that I am very appreciative. Best wishes :)
"Me, I'm dishonest. And a dishonest man you can always trust to be dishonest. Honestly, it's the honest ones you want to watch out for, because you can never predict when they're gonna do something incredibly... stupid." -Captain Jack Sparrow, Pirates of the Caribbean Looking forward to the Tropes series! :-D
I do think C.S. has a lot of interesting analysis and I think while ISTJ and ENFP have a lot that doesn't come easy it is potential the most rewarding relationship an ENFP can have because they can actual evolve to the healthiest level of ENFP by understanding and developing SI.
Idk about your theory dude I mean, I admire how much thought you put into this and it really looks good on paper but my best friend (we've been friends for 8 years) is an INFP (I'm an ENFP) and I honestly love her. We get along so well. We just get each other, same morals and so on. My sister is an ENFP and she's like my second best friend. Also all my other friends seem to be ENFPs too :D but I agree that I really get along with INFJs, also love-wise. But I only really ever met one or two. They're so rare.. I mean I usually get along with everybody but my point is that I get along the best with INFPs and ENFPs
@@CSJoseph Sry I don't have 1:30 h right now 😅 Do you want to say that my bf is an INFJ because she did not only take several tests but if I'd have to type her, I'd never type her as an INFJ.
I think my fellow ENFPs are taking what you say WAY too much to heart. The biggest thing I’ve learned in life so far is to separate yourself from actual facts. Just because some undeveloped ENFPs act this way doesn’t mean every ENFP does, I feel like that’s kind of implied LOL. His point is to be mindful of your weaknesses so you can help improve them/be more aware of them.
Maybe put the side talks about unrelated topics in seperate videos. Literally skipped all of the micro-evolution bit as it was nothing to do with why I showed up.
I actually recall the moment I realized that I could remember reference points back in grade school. I thought, "is this normal?" As long as I read the paragraphs assigned to me, I could usually recall everything on the tests. Lol.
Enfps juggle! Ethos vs logos Without thought Creed Self worth based on what others think - Face to face multipled by shoulder to shoulder leads to average Friendship
Would you say there is considerable/direct crossover between social and romantic compatibility in this context? Which is to say, would an ENFP have the most romantic compatibility with an INFJ? Or are functions considered differently with a romantic context? It seems like there's significant crossover, if not precise crossover. Interested in your thoughts.
This is as insulting, as it is hilarious. It is as right, as it is wrong😂 You make me mad and laugh at the same time (and that’s something rare). I got an idea about INFJ’s; their effect on ENFP is like a switched on power button. I know mine is and I will love him forever!
Hey, so right I have a question... well more like an observation that I would like your insight on. I am an ENFP and my new husband is an ISTP. Therefore, I have been learning everything I can about our two types. I started studying so hard because I couldn't figure out why I adore him so much but when things get hard I totally hate him. But then I noticed that yes his normal self is 3rd on my good list and his best self is second on my good list and my normal self is 3rd on his good list and my best self is 2nd on his good list. However, both our shadows and evil sides are on each others hate list in the same order, 2nd and 3rd to the bottom. Why do you think that is? Because it really sucks that I feel like we are falling apart everytime we go through something hard. It is so hard to fight fair with him. But at the sametime he is so amazing I can't image my life without him. If I were to study further would I find that all compatible couples are this way or is this just us or is it because we are 3rd on each others list instead of 1st?
Regarding the macroevolution stuff is speculated that Jung was part of some secret fraternity, so doesnt surprise me why he take some inspiration (or maybe have acceses to some kind knowledge) of occultist ideas in his books. Anyways keep up the content mate i really love it!
I am an ENFP and my best friends are usually INFP's, I just plainly love them. But I could never have a romantic relationship with an INFP... too much chaos, too much getting lost in dream worlds...
I love ENFPs in moderation btw, I think neither of us makes the other feel inferior. Well that's not quite true actually, my date made me feel dumb, but I was mostly just annoyed. Honestly, sometimes I wish I was more like an ENFP growing up, that I could have just done what I felt like doing and have been unvexed by the potential hurt feelings of others.
I'm more and more convinced I'm infp instead of enfp. I feel like couldn't even sell free food to a starving homeless man. Like people don't take me seriously at all. It's my own fault for acting so awkward and goofy all the time but the salesman, conman type really doesn't suit me. I'm even questioning whether I'm Ne. But I don't feel any of the other perceiving functions. Especially not Se, I don't like to do things for kicks. Unless it's a new experience but I don't know if that is my ne cause i'd rather be cozy and talking to my friends. But I don't have a lot of friends I'm comfortable with and I have terrible long term memory and I'm not organized in the slightest. I'm like 90% sure I'm feeling, and my teachers have always said they sensed my empathy and I'm also very uncerebral. But I am constantly in my own head. But it almost always about my social relations and my emotions and self worth but I easily goes into a negative spiral. I always want to talk about it with people but when I do I always share to much or I'm scared to share even a little bit. I have been called cold and walled by my bosses and coworkers mostly dissagree. Wow I'm ranting but I do feel like I've shown my mental thought process.
I don't think you like enfps very much. Maybe it's the enfps you've met. I'm sorry you feel that way about enfps. Some enfps must have treated you really badly. I'm sorry about that. FYI enfps are ambiverts and that's why they are good at being sales people. I know we can be annoying but honestly we aren't all cold hearted. Not everyone can enjoy enfps. FYI enfps are the most introverted of extroverts. It's a good thing I'm not married to an ENTP lol at least if all entps think of enfps like you do. ENFP married to an INTJ and it's the best match ever! The enfps you mentioned seem like horrible people
I didnt get the chance to finish this lecture yesterday, and I am still at 8min before I see it in full I just wanted to say that for me personally the ones I find romantically attractive are ESTPs and ENTJs , INTJs as well xd
My Ne was 44 followed by second strongest Ni 35 on sakinorva. Enfp over entp. My Te is jokingly low, 16 (might be due to ADHD) idk Do you know due to what are they so close?
I'm an INFP with ENFP workmate, my other coworker ISFP, loathes him and the way he does his work when I see that he's actually the most tolerable and nicesr person in the department 😂
I'd tend to think with what control freaks ENTJs are, like my former brother-in-law, and how ENFPs hate being controlled, ENTJs might be less compatible than on the list shown. I understand you have a very precise system, it's just those natures would seem to conflict.
Actually ENTJs aren't that control oriented(but can be opinionated and ask uncomfortable questions). SJs are far more like that because of their Si function's obsession with rules and traditions. ENTJ wants to please and can be unsure about what they are doing is correct(lacks Ti validation).
Well, I can understand how Si types can be rulebound. At the same "rank", they act like sheep, but in authority they're even worse when they pretend the rules they wrote, or were writen for them, are set in stone made of freaking neutronium. I still see ENTJs as control freaks in their own right, just a different type of control freak. Instead of duty bound, they are ambition bound and must have everything their way.
I cannot be friends with infps I’m sorry but it’s so boring. we both end up waiting for the other one to provide an experience or say something and it gets so boring and we never know what to do. I can’t get far with an infp unfortunately
That first minute had me cracking up XD. I'm an enfp, and that is SO accurate, I'll sometimes have a certain piece of knowledge that I'm looking for to fit the pieces together in my head, and I'd go to the ends of the earth to get it if i have to. Once I get it, it's like the whole journey never happened and I'm onto the next thing. That's why I'm at this video actually. That's related to how we will often sway the conversation over to whatever we're interested in, because we feel like it's more important than whatever the convo is about. And to us, it is. Love the content CSJ keep it coming
Also yeah i was put in all the gifted classes when i was younger with a great score on my IQ. I am willing to acknowledge that the test is bullshit. True intelligence can't be tested by one test, because intelligence takes so many forms. someone can have a great ability to go very far with an idea, but in an hour long test you couldn't possibly measure that. I'm not afraid to admit this because in my opinion one of the greatest tools for enfps and infps is HUMILITY. If you accept that your beliefs may not be true, and really begin to question yourself, you end up being much more open-minded and your beliefs will be much more valid. something that helps me is stating how certain i am about something I think and stating all the logic i used to reach that conclusion. then, by addressing the foundation of your and others' beliefs, you can reach deeper understanding.
I was so excited when you said you were going to spend some time discussing ENFP-ESTP because it was really interesting... ...and then you spent less than two minutes on it puttering out of energy and making none of your points about it understandable. Obviously, I'm being a little critical, but I'm taking the time to say it because I believe (genuinely) that you have something to say here...but it's still left unsaid....and I *still* want to hear it. Please do speak more about this--and I'm there.
So the subconscious doesnt like the ego. The ego is just incompatible with the ego. The ego and the unconcious are too comfy together so no sense of growth can be achived but the person can fill totally relaxed and at ease. And the super ego is kind of the only one not too comfortable with the ego to make it lazy but comfortable enough for them to have a health balanced growth. So for me ENFP : ENFP self distruction. Avoid the self if you dont want to go manic But: good for getting out of the solid persona : INFJ just get drwoned in whatever they be vibing on But: good for zen mode, inspiration or relaxation : ISTJ too harsh too critical it will destroy the self esteem But: good for humbling the self inccase of egotism : ESTP makes the person uncomfortable and unsure But: Good for realizing the need for change, improvement and balanced growth
I actually don't get this as an INFP. I thought I was most compatible with ENFPs. And even the bedroom situation has been told to be the best situation from both sides....
People can have different views and thoughts. In a book, I read a couple of decades ago, I concluded that ENFPs are most compatible (more for friends) with INFPs, ESFPs, INJFs, and other ENFPs. INFPs are most likely to be friends with ENFPs, ISFP, other INFPs, and INTPs. That is if I remember correctly. At the same time, life experiences and maturity also could easily effect who one subconsciously connects with as friends. Craig (ENFP)
Craig B Yep that's true. I mean tbh most of these examples of two INFPs or an INFP and an ENFP sound like examples of immature people and the ENFP and INFJs sound like healthy developed people. I as an INFP never get on with ENFJs and INFJs long term. Long term I get along better with ENFPs and INFPs and so on. This is one of those things that sounds good on paper but in reality doesn't really work.
kbg12ila I have tremendous respect for CS Joseph. He does have a very deep understanding of, as he says, Jungian Depth Psychology, and has much information to share. By the way, Jungian Depth, or Type, Psychology --- Zindabad!!!!! (I noticed the "rap" video on your profile. I graduated from ISoI, completing my last 2 years of high school in Islamabad, due to my Dad's international work. This was back in the late 80's. Khoda-hafiz)
Craig B Oh I do too. I think he has a brilliantly deep understanding of the types. I just think he's missed the mark when it comes to compatibility and them working together. I mean one of the only successful marriages I've seen has been between my uncle and aunt who are both ISFJs, the worst is my own parents who are ESFJ and ESFP. And yep. I'm actually in the UK but families from Pakistan. Haha.
:) The others are all right too... My first best friend is an ENFJ (and our relationship is perfect as you described), but my second best friend is an ENFP and we get along very well though I think it is more a shoulder to shoulder relationship - we support each other and motivate each other very well because we had passed by the same problems with our mums (her mother is also an ESTJ (or an ISTJ, I'm not quite shore because she is a little more introverted than my mother, but our problems are exactly the same: they treat us like little children and don't have any respect for us...). I think that because my ENFP friend is older than me (she is 45 wile I'm 31), but we are in very different levels in different parts of our live, there is a lot of humility between us as well.... We share sorrows, she ears my counsels attentively and I ear hers; we sometimes disagree, but it is always with a huge amount of respect towards each other. Because we are in such different stages in live, we always try to motivate and to capacitate each other in a very positive way (we fail sometimes), but it is ok; we recognize why we fail (because what lead us to failure is the same), and we get up again. Our friendship is very rewarding, and we are a support for each other against the world that don't understand us... Then my third best friend is an ISFP (the same as my husband, though my husband is much more intuitive, but he as leading Se) and I love her tremendously, but I know that she does not loves me back in the same amount or way (sometimes seems more that she endures me, or recognize and is grateful for my love; but, as my love for her will never ends (because I'm so grateful to the Lord for her life, for she was putted in my way to be my friend), I will love her the same, with the same amount of gushy love that she finds sometimes awkward or smothering... :P I have a lot of interst in knowing how to make this type (ISFP) to feel loved (for obvious reasons)... I'm anxiously and patiently waiting for the video "8 Rules For Loving an ISFP" to get out :DD
Having a very immature enfp mom when I was growing up as an enfp myself. It's a f** nightmare. I cut her off in college, and im still thinking how I'm gonna deal with her. Any suggestions?
Youre right! My enfp colleague is avoiding his istj boss at all times! 😂😂 He hates his boss because he's follow too much on a book! 😂and his istj boss is not trusting him want he's doing to get a job done. P.s that enfp guy is happily married to his istp wife. She's a teacher.
I did the 16 personalities quiz and every time I get ENFP but right on the edge of ENFJ and ENTP... watching this makes me really confused about which type I am, because I have some ENFP friends that I’m really close with and some INFJ’s that I really despise. Is there a better way for me to type myself rather than 16 personalities? I’m also 99% sure my mom is ISTJ, and me and her have a generally good relationship most of the time, so I feel like I’m mistyped. Do you have any recommendations?
I am an Intp, I am sorry for your experiences with ENFP’s. My favorite person in the world is an ENFP, I am able to turn on my Entj self and we have the most interesting discussions.
Yeah, macro-evolution is entirely bunk. There is no way to define or distinguish adaption by natural selection into a classification of macro or micro adaptions > it's not a separate process from adaptions among a species, also this has absolutely nothing to do with some kind of hypothetical bridge to how the mind works or was formed. In fact, scientist defines species according to most often physical differences and infers from there. Psychological theories such as Depth Psychology are subjective by nature, and so are the theories that make up evolutionary psychology, one doesn't approach the mind from the same starting point nor do they attempt to describe the same thing, merely pieces of the same whole, at best
As an ENFP finally realizing maybe I am not that smart, my inferior Si is triggered which makes my Fi parent feel extremely bad about itself, so my Ne hero must confer with my Te child and try and come up with some method or way of doing everything to make it appear that I am more intelligent than I actually am? Then if my method works, the only way I would be certain is if I have someone acknowledge me for my supposed “intelligence” and since they think I am smart that affirms to me that I actually am because if someone can see me that way then in some lighting it must be true. Is this how this works?
I’m an enfp and I love this guy but I think he’s probably had some bad experiences with ENFPs.
You dont say xd
I'm an ENFP too. I feel the same way.
probably got scammed or something lol
He sounds like he's a had a bad experience with every type.
He sounds like he's a had a bad experience with every type.
The video is only half as long if you skip the rants about ENFPs and macro evolution. ;-)
@@inalibaax6877 is h in 30ndays already!? Awsome
You have been inserted into my library of Alexandria
Dope
Totes me too. I love him.
@@melissaholm1988 makes 3 of us
Damn, that ENFP did this dude all kinds of wrong. Too bad he's taking the actions of one out on the rest of us. Unfair for mature ENFPs, but whatever.
Honestly the community hands so much shit to ESXXs so often we kinda also should be able to take it.
Well I was too. There is a reason for the bad rep.
As an ISTP who has a plethora of ENFPs that flock to me, he isn't wrong. ENFPs are awesome but when they get into their little me mode it's aggravating. When they are thinking of others without being on the defensive like everyone is going to screw them over, that is where they shine. But every ENFP I've shown his videos about them says the same lol.
Tfw ENTPs have Fi blindspot and can't necessarily register their own bias; and I think we all know how bias skews cognition yes.
I (INFJ) think the ENFP's do not understand what C.S. is referring to.
ENFP's must *always* remember that judgement begins at home; this is a particular characteristic implicit in ENFP's.
ENFP/Fi confuses the truth of logical reasoning; it is incorrect to interpret C.S.'s "bad vibes" (hurt ENFP/Fi) as meaning ENFP's are "bad" nor "immature", etc.
ENFP's are good at journalistic observations of others but they *need* to let others in the community perform *judgements;* ENFP's should learn to judge *themselves* (based upon their behaviour and their values) and *not* others.
Dont mind me just leaving timestamps for a friend.... ^_^
Triple moviment: 02:30
Sell anything: 05:09
Begining of the Function analisys: 07:00.....nvm rant goes on.....16:40.......rant again lol.....17:40
Extra Compatibility: 14:53
I love you
You know what else can keep an ENFP from going into depravity mode? A life of suffering. Don't give all the credit for good ENFPs to INFJs.
well said
Also, corrupted INFJs can corrupt ENFPs. Once again letting your personal negative history affect your judgment of each type. As an ENFP, I have had several negative experiences with INFJs who were already corrupted on their own.
I’m an enfp. And this couldn’t be more true.
But isn't life full of suffering? 🤔
@@honor9lite1337 It is :-)
Good lord. I really can't thank you enough for the way you get real honest about ENFP depravity. Almost everybody treats ENFPs with kid gloves. They only talk about us in the most glowing of terms and say that we're "magical," or some such thing. When you mentioned the ENFP who started creating fake accounts, I shuddered, because I did something similar once. In a fit of rage, I once used different alts on Twitter to insult somebody with the worst things I could think of. To this day, it embarrasses me tremendously to even recall it. I am one of the nicest/most charitable people when I am aligned and feeling good, but the risk of going bad is always there. Great video. A lot of ENFPs aren't going to be able to face the music, but I personally applaud you for keeping it real. It gives me further incentive to work on myself to prevent the depravity from coming out again.
INFP in a relationship with ENFP here. We DO motivate each other, we DO comfort each other and we DO speak our minds and believes and everything... its the best and deepest relationship I ever had. Must say that we are both pretty "grown up" healthy types, so that we know ourselfs and what we want and do show that to others.. I dont think that this realtionship would have worked 10 years ago when each one of us (exspecially me) was still searching about what matters in life.
Are you still together?
Yeah I'd love to know how this is going as a INFP. My girlfriend is an ENFP. Both of us are very healthy but long term has me worried
i love you and you hate us ENFPs! :( i definitely could not be a salesperson. ive always worked in health care and have a passion for helping people -not conning them! i hope you meet some genuinely nice ENFPs one day and stop giving us such a bad rap!
i dont hate any type, I criticize all of them equally.
Maybe try also talking about their good points too?
The way I see it is we're not selling a product or service to anyone. We're more like selling ideas to people, where we can see them go in life. Helping them that way.
He's right I reckon I would make a very good second hand car sales person and would take pride in selling something difficult to sell. Only thing is if the car is a piece of junk my values would stop me from doing it.
Yeah but I bet you sell folks on the idea of taking care of themselves or on participating in the prescribed remedies.
I’m actually relieved that there is an explanation for my angry outbursts. Many online descriptions sugar coat ENFP traits like we’re these bubbly wanderfluffs. I’ve had a bad temper that I needed to take ownership of and accountability for through anger management counseling. It helps no one to only be built up constantly. It’s through huge mistakes in my life that were called out mercilessly, that I was able to grow.
This reminded me of Will Smith '-' And myself too cause when that happened to him it made me realize lots of stuff about myself. As I know, he's an ENFP and I fucking KNOW how bad he's feeling for having that behavior at the Oscars and that made me try to pay more attention to that anger inside myself. We gotta be very careful when it comes to that subject. We are awesome kind hearted people, but under stress we can do tons of shit.
Your ENFP personality is still influenced by our growing up experiences and trauma life brought,, dysfunctional parents,, etc..
I hope you find healing. Books by Louise Hay helped me. I started with "You can heal your life".
@@ingrid5944 He's an ENFJ
Yeah ENFPs should surround themselves with as many healthy xNFJs as possible. I did most of my self development on my own and the journey towards maturity (depraved to charitable) was VERY rocky. Their positive influence would have made the journey a thousand times easier.
What’s happened is that he’s seen ENFP in shadow mode, and he is right: we will beat the living snot out of someone-total blackout style if they cross our values or try to screw us. We don’t want to go there, but ENFPs that have been screwed over too many times will completely throw away feeling and see red.
I'm an ENFP and my favorite personality type is INFP. All my closest friends are INFPs (or ENFPs), we are all open minded and accepting, all have interests in culture, arts, society, human emotions. Not very "productive" together, but our beliefs do not match with capitalistic ones I would say. We are all dreamers, feelers, and create a world of our own, a language of our own. We laugh and joke like children and have deep end meaningful conversations. My relationships / friendships with INFPs are the most intense, meaningful and deep connections I have ever experienced.
The majority of the people in my friend group are diplomats (we all met randomly, never worked or went to school together, just met randomly and clicked so kept on seeing one another and introducing each other to our mutual friends. Became a friend group over time, all kind of insane, accepting and supportive of one another, with a deep desire to connect and experience meaningful relationships and love).
Idk... Just sounds really weird to me that there would be such an incompatibility between INFPs and ENFPs.
ENFP here. This is frighteningly accurate and so awesome. CS, you are the ENFP Whisperer... I have enjoyed marriage to a wonderful INFJ for 36 years. Fascinating insight into why it works! I once had an ESTJ boss, which was total frustration and grief. Thanks for another fantastic lecture.
Awesome! I am glad it worked out for you :)
As harsh as he is about us enfps he's so right especially about the infj compatibility making us better people. I am soooo thankful I grew up with my older infj sister, made me who I am
It is interesting that you infer that IQ tests are biased more towards Te types. Considering the abstract nature of IQ tests, and how some questions are formulated, I would say that Ti users should be able to score quite well on it. In fact, there has been some data on that, which states that the ones with the highest IQ according to the MBTI are the INTPs. Also, how do IQ tests follow ethos more than logos? The questions are usually based on logical patterns (if this is this, then what is this?). As far as I know, ethos is based on credibility/trust. To score high on an IQ test, there is no requirement to trust on a source. All we do is to deduct which answer would be the most logical one, according to the pattern given.
IQ tests are flawed as they don't always consider ambiguity or context. Who is to say the answer is right? Only the questioner.
Amen i was like ethos eh wut
Elijah - yes I’ve found patterns in IQ tests that the test writer did not consider and had questions marked wrong. Of course I disputed them but the SJ test giver would have none of it.
It's Ne. That's why we do well.
@@ashleycnossen3157 yup my intuition carried me throughout school
Hello I’m an ENFP who’s identical twin is an INFP it’s like gods joke. But I’m actually extremely blessed because I feel that she and I have help each other grow into more mature versions of ourselves. She’s seriously my favourite person in the world.
Interesting that I'm an INFJ and my childhood friend of 20 years is an ENFP
I have exactly the same situation! We have been very close friends since we were 2-3 years old.
I am enfp and I love a fellow enfp! Why do you have to destroy the magic? I don't believe your statements about enfp not compatible with fellow enfp. We can be crazy together and get each other
sounds like one of you is mistyped
I'm an INFP and I have one INFP close friend and one ENFP friend (none of us mistyped) so I hear you! However it's useful to be aware of that you may have similar strengths and weaknesses in order to counteract that when needed. :)
To think that someone is mistyped simply because they get along with another person of their same personality type is honestly rather ridiculous. Especially when it comes to ENFPs.
Many of my best friends are ENFPs like me! We have the most fun and get each other! A romantic relationship may be naturally less compatible though.
Don't really care for churches myself; buildings aren't the Church and churchians aren't necessarily Christians.
well said.
Lin Yen Chin there are smart and dumb people within every brand. Catholicism probably appeals more to sensors than intuitives, but both of those perception types can vary in intelligence.
YUP!
Couldn't agree more!
The only thing this taught me is that if you sound confident in what you’re saying you can maybeee convince a sheep
I actually really love all the whining and complaining about ENFP's he does. I am sorry he got burned by one of us.... But his knowledge of what red flags to watch for is amazing and it really comes out when he complains.
My (completely amazing) INFJ wife doesn't like his complaining at all....
Interesting. My closest friends are INTPs/ENTPs. The only other type I seem to get along with are ESTPs and sometimes some ESFPs - though I interact with both in a very superficial manner(mostly when just looking for people to have fun or party with). I literally cannot get along with any other sensing types. Their brains seem to be wired in a completely different way I cant grasp and I have had MANY of them label me 'CRAZY or WEIRD' whenever I strike up any conversation with them. I actively avoid all SJs in particular, and generally seem to have trouble with all types that lead with a judging function except INTPs.
What is it with your ego than needs think that evry ENFP is like Ty Lopes or what ever?
Rune Ahlman 😂😂😂😂 are you mad ? so cute
My Mother is a depraved ENFP and I am a turbulant INTJ. I am totally on-board with Joseph with this one. Obviously I have somewhat of an emotional connection with Mom, but as a extreme INTJ it is a very turbulent connection. I refuse to submit to her desire to be my overlord, or subjugate me like a dog. Actually she treats her actual dogs better than she treats me most of the time. It drives her hysterically insane every time I do not cave into her tyrannical will. She projects all of her psychotic traits on to me as insults to try to break me down. Like as she actively terrorizes/abuses you she will simultaneously accuse you of being abusive, its truly spectacular. If she was not family I would stay as far away from her as possible. ENFP's are inclined to be emotionally abusive tyrannical terrorists, with zero rational other than what they FEEL in the moment. I absolutely cannot stand the nature of a depraved ENFP, their moral relativity and rapid hysteric emotional reactivity is the most dangerous thing I have ever witnessed in a human being. Like little waves on a beach they slowly erode your self worth until you are nothing left but a empty husk of a person. Onlookers see the little waves as insignificant but over time they do real damage to the person they are eroding. Its dangerous because they sneak up on other people with kindness and their victims rarely see the danger coming. Its like one day you wake up to find the ENFP standing over you with a giant fishing hook through your neck where they proceed to yank you around as they see fit. You are not going to get the hook out unless you tear it out, which will be catastrophic. She screams, yells, throws tantrums, is psychologically abusive, as well as extremely physically abusive to us when we were children, yet when the phone rings she immediately switches to this sweet endearing personality for the phone call. I am not worried by many personality types, it is difficult to intimidate me, but I do not underestimate the level of desolation that ENFP's are capable of. Subjugate you to their will and desire is their ethos. They are the direct antithesis of integrity and every moral value that I firmly hold. I am sure there are many good ENFP's out there, but I am still very cautious about keeping firm boundaries around them. I know I cannot judge all ENFP's by one individual, but damn if they don't have me on guard at all times.
wow what a comment
Is that all you can say¿¿??!!! Oh yes, you don't give a shit!!! Door slam!!!
Except INTJ’s are actual tyrannical pieces of shit, so I think you have this flipped bud
@@Solomon_King_ I'm sorry for your situation! I like levelheaded (as they are) INTJs. It was verry rewarding to come accross Erick Thor's chart of types of personality and their temperamentSSSS. It shows how many of us are mix of many, not just one ( in case of INTJs, you are a pure logic type). I look at the interactions btwn types from the energy perception.Often I find myself in conflict with melancholic/levelheaded types. I would see how underdeveloped ENFP wouldd try and make you be more emotional.
ENFP 2w3
@@Solomon_King_ I think he just felt personally attacked. I think Enfp's hate having to spend a lot of time with the same person and as your mother she is forced to. Not a excuse though, whatever type she is you are the one responsable as a parent. I know where she gets it from, i learned myself not to project my blame at people. When someone is mad at you, a lot of people get mad in return. If you take the extra step to try and look what you did wrong it can change an arguement really easily. But i have also found that i am not at all a family person. You should give her some space, and try to make her find out herself what she did wrong. But i do pity you, i find myself absolutely unbearable.
Another reason why ENFPs are so prevelent in Mensa is because ENFPs are the most prevalent intuitive types in society (about 8% of people with it being the 3rd most common type for women of the 16). The average intuitive does much better than the average sensor in IQ tests. "but sensors are smart"!! It is also true that you also see a lot of ISTJs in Mensa. However ISTJs are the most common MBTI in some studies, and they are usually pretty smart SJ type. Of course you will see lots of ISTJs. Intuitives are rare...EXCEPT for ENFP. ENFPs are everywhere and are the most common intuitive type. This is why you see so many in Mensa.
Judging IQ intelligence of a type by looking at how common they are in mensa is not a good way. When you look at percentage in society to percentage in mensa you will find INTXs take the prize. No I am not an INTX. I am an ENTP. However, I do dangerously ride the line of ENTP and INTP. I'm not trying to defend my type as smarter. I'm just correcting peoples confusion. Statistics are great, but oftentimes they are used to deceive people when not analyzed correctly and completely. Many people don't analyze statistics correctly and completely.
Truth is there are other things other MBTI types are good at (other types of intelligence), but ON AVERAGE the introverted analysts (INTXs), are the smarter (capability to learn and understand academics) types. INTXs usually have worse social intelligence than most other types, (inferior Fe and PoLR Fe are probably to blame) but academically they dominate.
The way you talk is just so insightful and entertaining man. Love it.
awesome, I am trying to get out of my shell with each shoot.
I usually score high in IQ tests but I always get 10/10 on the logic part.
I think a lot of people doesnt realize that our Ne hero can actually be a form of intelligence if its used properly.
I can easially pick up patterns and use them for my own benefit or find ways to use them (Te I guess), I am also a great problem solver.
I am starting to think that IQ and types have little to do with each other. Personality types are like filters you see life through, it sets your priorities and your insecurities, what you enjoy and what you have trouble dealing with. Your type may help you to be more objective than some other type or to prioritize logic over feelings, but that logic can be wrong and not very useful.
Same with feelings, if you're prioritizing morals and thise are wrong you're still going to be a bad person, and someone who has Fi last but has the good morals will still be more moral than you are.
The way I see it is ppl with different personality types are like kids in a school project, they were all given tasks based on what they are most comfy with/like, but just because kid A got task X doesnt because they like it doesnt mean kid B or C cant be better at it than them. You never know. Because genetics and biology, lifestyle and the way you were raised play a role in it.
I know why ENFPs want to own football teams, its a brand. A franchise to develop. That appeals to ENFPs quite a bit.
I am an ENFP obsessed with ISTPs...
same!! ixxp's are soooo attractive to me, they also motivate me to get my shit together and act more j-like :p
Where do i find ISTPs? :D
@@kadsenvieh under a car
my ex was an ISTP :)
Ya. Nick Jonas is really hot. So many hot ISTP males.
ENFP here and I really admire other ENFPs from afar.. but find them annoying up close haha or I just get jealous
“Gosh are you guys rlly gonna be upset about my argument on macro evolution?” LMAO I’m cracking up at how you’re already arguing with the comments in advance 😭😂
Hey, ESTP here I think you're analysis of enfp-estp is very interesting, since many (too many?)of my good friends have been Enfps as well as an enfp female who I believe has been pursuing a relationship with me for a while but like you said they're Ne really overwhelms my Ni alot of the time making me indecisive in establishing romantic relations especially since I'm 90% sure if I asked her out she would say yes in a heartbeat but that 10% uncertainty is really scary...
Its a good romantic relationship, just make sure she stays loyal. Si inferior isn't loyal to just anyone. You really have to have her pegged. But if she desires you already, then its not going to be a big deal. Besides, as an ESTP you already are the archetypical man's man, aka alpha.
C.S. Joseph needy cheating enfps how do you peg them ?
Lmao as an ENFP you sure crack me up sometimes man. It might be our common Ne but I love when I’m not the one rambling all the time. The inflection in your voice gives me LIFE.
Haha I love seeing you rant about us ENFPs - it's all painfully true and so insightful! We can be like petulant children who won't shut up about the cocktail of information we acquire from other people and usually need to be guided on how to apply it without ignoring truth. Once I start considering entrepreneurship, I notice that the monetary pay-off becomes like a drug and the selfishness and arrogance starts to manifest. This is why I stick to the arts predominantly and I'm surprised you haven't mentioned examples of ENFP artists, writers, musicians etc. I find that ENFPs consult the Fe critic in themselves more when being creative and that it's easier for ENFPs to climb four mountains rather than just one since they are a Starter type and all. I wonder how other ENFPs feel about this? (Thanks for your videos Chase, they're life-changing- yes that was the typical ENFP bid for adulation, I hate me too, but it's also sincere)
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I honestly believe you are talking about our closely related esfp brethren..not the enfp. At least from my perspective, no one has to remind me to care about people unless they raise their voice at me or call me names or disparage me. Even then I have to be tired or it has to be unexpected. Otherwise I love people and love to help. I think many enfps could probably relate to that...esfps are similar but I feel like sometimes there extroverted sensing gets them in trouble. They can get wrapped up in material objects and experiences and since they know people so well, sometimes I feel like they get wrapped up in how to use people to get those things. I like esfps but I feel like I cant be my true self around them because of that. But I have noticed esfps get mistyped as enfps quite a bit...just as one difference to look for, enfps look more like inattentive adhd versus esfps look like hyperactive adhd lol
My sister is an ESTJ and she is sometimes acts like my parent even though I´m older than her. But we have developed and formed each other so much, I motivate her and she keeps me grounded in reality.
He’s just embittered because his IQ test came out at only 108 😂
I could care less about test results of any kind. It is a lame excuse to be willfully ignorant.
I'm an INTP and I once had an INTP acquaintance. He would go off on long rants about aliens and anthropogenic climate change at literally the same time I was going off about Science and (lack of) animal rights...we would just talk over each other all the time. He would actually make the statement: "I know everything. I'm never wrong." To which I'd reply, "You're usually right. You're only wrong when you and I disagree". Lol. He's got the entire periodic table of chemical elements memorized and would list them, lightest to heaviest; which is pretty cool ;)
Jessica P that is cool, yes. I wonder how useful that is though.
@@CSJoseph I think it's only useful for impressing other nerds haha...which could actually be considered not useful at all...considering after he listed the chemical elements in order rapid-fire I was quite smitten with him...until I realized he was...me. And he's not a scientist, so you're correct: not useful. Although...maybe this skill could initially attract a nerdy INTJ and technically be considered useful in that fashion...?
This is my second video I've watched of yours about ENFP. I am an ENFP and I think you're funny and not negative. I have a friend who is an ENTP and we get along great. I would NEVER have done the Reddit thing but I can see how it would happen because ENFP's are all about personal branding and reputation. As with anything it's easy to see how a trait that could be used for good can also be used in a negative, shady way. With my ENTP friend, we just had to agree to disagree and focus on the parts of our lives and personalities that we do vibe with - and there are a lot. We have similar interests, for example. The one thing I need to do is avoid heated discussions with him. He loves to play devil's advocate and it confuses me because I can't actually tell all the time what his real opinion it is.
I'm an ISTJ and in deep sync with an ENFP
I’m an enfp and my best friend is an infp and we’ve been closer the more virtual our relationship becomes. She lives 3000km from me and I’ve only seen her physically 8 time in the last 10yrs.
Oh the sarcasm, It is at the point of becoming passive aggressive towards the ENFPs. Suggests bad experience with ENFPs.
Suggests being the key word
I believe an INTJ compatibility is needed here please
"ENFP's are basically thought vampires." Lmao, yes we are. I guess it's an area to work on.
Not really. Its an area to grow tbh. You do this by reading.
I am a voracious reader, and I still plum people's minds. Reading will not change that. It was also insulting for you to assume I am unread.
Steven Lykowski I meant you as in ENFPs in general. I apologize for coming off as offensive. Let me know how I can make it up to you.
C.S. Joseph Understood. Fwiw, I am currently reading the Stoics...thinkers that help me smooth out the occasional tumultuous waves of my Fi. To make it up to me, tell me what you are currently reading. Thanks.
Steven Lykowski I am reading the boy crisis by warren Farrel, he does a great job identifying the problem but his solutions are piss poor.
You are right on regarding macro evolution and I concur with the evidence of personality cognitive functions pointing to an intelligent designer. Thank you for throwing this out there.
I'm a male ENFP and I have a close friend who is a female ESTP (I'm fairly certain) who I have wanted a romantic relationship with. We have a great connection and have talked about having that kind of relationship but she's very unsure about actually doing it. Any advice?
Isaac Evans yes, she is just afraid, all you need to do is demonstrate your loyalty in a big way, state how much you value her and prove it to her, also state how comfortable she makes you feel.
Thank you, by the way I really enjoy watching your videos, they make me feel like I can understand myself and others better, and I think your humor is very entertaining.
I have taken quite a number of tests and all of them have typed me as an ENFP. I also can definitely see how the cognitive functions emerge in my psyche in terms of hero extroverted intuition, parent introverted feeling, child extroverted thinking and inferior introverted sensing. All that being said, I have found empirically that I don't get along very well with the xSTP's that I have met because my mind is always in the future and I become pretty frustrated with their live in the moment attitude. Furthermore, I get along with the xNTPs in my life very well and I love their ability to see both sides and offer balanced insight on most matters. I am actually dating an INTP and it's the happiest and healthiest relationship I've been involved with. Other than that, I love your videos and find them VERY insightful. I have been studying MBTI concepts and cognitive functions for about two years now and I find it super fascinating, and your videos have really helped deepen my knowledge on a different level. For that I am very appreciative. Best wishes :)
Awesome, thanks a lot.
Hey Joshua, what’s life like now for you? My last relationship with an ISTP ended poorly with me getting insanely bored. What’s it like dating an INTP
"Me, I'm dishonest. And a dishonest man you can always trust to be dishonest. Honestly, it's the honest ones you want to watch out for, because you can never predict when they're gonna do something incredibly... stupid."
-Captain Jack Sparrow, Pirates of the Caribbean
Looking forward to the Tropes series! :-D
It will be dope!
I do think C.S. has a lot of interesting analysis and I think while ISTJ and ENFP have a lot that doesn't come easy it is potential the most rewarding relationship an ENFP can have because they can actual evolve to the healthiest level of ENFP by understanding and developing SI.
Idk about your theory dude
I mean, I admire how much thought you put into this and it really looks good on paper but my best friend (we've been friends for 8 years) is an INFP (I'm an ENFP) and I honestly love her. We get along so well. We just get each other, same morals and so on. My sister is an ENFP and she's like my second best friend. Also all my other friends seem to be ENFPs too :D but I agree that I really get along with INFJs, also love-wise. But I only really ever met one or two. They're so rare..
I mean I usually get along with everybody but my point is that I get along the best with INFPs and ENFPs
please watch "How Do INFJs Compare To INFPs." real quick
@@CSJoseph Sry I don't have 1:30 h right now 😅
Do you want to say that my bf is an INFJ because she did not only take several tests but if I'd have to type her, I'd never type her as an INFJ.
I think my fellow ENFPs are taking what you say WAY too much to heart. The biggest thing I’ve learned in life so far is to separate yourself from actual facts. Just because some undeveloped ENFPs act this way doesn’t mean every ENFP does, I feel like that’s kind of implied LOL. His point is to be mindful of your weaknesses so you can help improve them/be more aware of them.
Also helps I grew up with an ISFJ mom, INTJ dad, and INFJ sister! Really helped me see the other side of things!
I just LOVE this channel
Maybe put the side talks about unrelated topics in seperate videos.
Literally skipped all of the micro-evolution bit as it was nothing to do with why I showed up.
I actually recall the moment I realized that I could remember reference points back in grade school. I thought, "is this normal?" As long as I read the paragraphs assigned to me, I could usually recall everything on the tests. Lol.
man i love mr.joseph so much he’s so funny, wish i was his friend lol
Ok, I have found that I get along romantically best with EPs, especially ENFPs but how is that possible if I am an ESFP?
Se likes Si
Enfps juggle!
Ethos vs logos
Without thought
Creed
Self worth based on what others think
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Face to face multipled by shoulder to shoulder leads to average
Friendship
Would you say there is considerable/direct crossover between social and romantic compatibility in this context? Which is to say, would an ENFP have the most romantic compatibility with an INFJ? Or are functions considered differently with a romantic context? It seems like there's significant crossover, if not precise crossover. Interested in your thoughts.
top two types in social compatibility = top 2 types for romantic compatibility
This is as insulting, as it is hilarious. It is as right, as it is wrong😂 You make me mad and laugh at the same time (and that’s something rare). I got an idea about INFJ’s; their effect on ENFP is like a switched on power button. I know mine is and I will love him forever!
Hey, so right I have a question... well more like an observation that I would like your insight on.
I am an ENFP and my new husband is an ISTP. Therefore, I have been learning everything I can about our two types. I started studying so hard because I couldn't figure out why I adore him so much but when things get hard I totally hate him.
But then I noticed that yes his normal self is 3rd on my good list and his best self is second on my good list and my normal self is 3rd on his good list and my best self is 2nd on his good list.
However, both our shadows and evil sides are on each others hate list in the same order, 2nd and 3rd to the bottom.
Why do you think that is?
Because it really sucks that I feel like we are falling apart everytime we go through something hard. It is so hard to fight fair with him. But at the sametime he is so amazing I can't image my life without him.
If I were to study further would I find that all compatible couples are this way or is this just us or is it because we are 3rd on each others list instead of 1st?
its super high compatibility, dont give up
Awesome, yay for the ENFP splurge! :P
ENFP here holding you to it, Chase. I would love to see some trope videos!!
How can you mitigate the se demons eating si if you had an ENTP & ENFP?
Regarding the macroevolution stuff is speculated that Jung was part of some secret fraternity, so doesnt surprise me why he take some inspiration (or maybe have acceses to some kind knowledge) of occultist ideas in his books. Anyways keep up the content mate i really love it!
Good point!, I didnt think of this.
24:50 ENFP-ISTP
I'm literally walking around the house with my laptop as I'm listening XD
I am an ENFP and my best friends are usually INFP's, I just plainly love them. But I could never have a romantic relationship with an INFP... too much chaos, too much getting lost in dream worlds...
I'm an ENTP and my first date was with an ENFP. It taught me that some girls really should just be friends.
I love ENFPs in moderation btw, I think neither of us makes the other feel inferior. Well that's not quite true actually, my date made me feel dumb, but I was mostly just annoyed. Honestly, sometimes I wish I was more like an ENFP growing up, that I could have just done what I felt like doing and have been unvexed by the potential hurt feelings of others.
I'm more and more convinced I'm infp instead of enfp. I feel like couldn't even sell free food to a starving homeless man. Like people don't take me seriously at all. It's my own fault for acting so awkward and goofy all the time but the salesman, conman type really doesn't suit me. I'm even questioning whether I'm Ne. But I don't feel any of the other perceiving functions. Especially not Se, I don't like to do things for kicks. Unless it's a new experience but I don't know if that is my ne cause i'd rather be cozy and talking to my friends. But I don't have a lot of friends I'm comfortable with and I have terrible long term memory and I'm not organized in the slightest. I'm like 90% sure I'm feeling, and my teachers have always said they sensed my empathy and I'm also very uncerebral. But I am constantly in my own head. But it almost always about my social relations and my emotions and self worth but I easily goes into a negative spiral. I always want to talk about it with people but when I do I always share to much or I'm scared to share even a little bit. I have been called cold and walled by my bosses and coworkers mostly dissagree. Wow I'm ranting but I do feel like I've shown my mental thought process.
INFPs that I know are far better sellers then I am. The best selling types are ENFJ and ISTP
I do agry on the branding... I so care about branding myself. And I tottaly go physical when uppset.
I don't think you like enfps very much. Maybe it's the enfps you've met. I'm sorry you feel that way about enfps. Some enfps must have treated you really badly. I'm sorry about that. FYI enfps are ambiverts and that's why they are good at being sales people. I know we can be annoying but honestly we aren't all cold hearted. Not everyone can enjoy enfps. FYI enfps are the most introverted of extroverts. It's a good thing I'm not married to an ENTP lol at least if all entps think of enfps like you do. ENFP married to an INTJ and it's the best match ever! The enfps you mentioned seem like horrible people
please watch the other ENFP vids before judging.
I didnt get the chance to finish this lecture yesterday, and I am still at 8min before I see it in full I just wanted to say that for me personally the ones I find romantically attractive are ESTPs and ENTJs , INTJs as well xd
I totally agree with you, I'd hate to be friends with someone like myself, I definitely feel competitive just like you said.
My Ne was 44 followed by second strongest Ni 35 on sakinorva. Enfp over entp. My Te is jokingly low, 16 (might be due to ADHD) idk
Do you know due to what are they so close?
I'm an INFP with ENFP workmate, my other coworker ISFP, loathes him and the way he does his work when I see that he's actually the most tolerable and nicesr person in the department 😂
I am an INTJ woman and I exist :D
Laura Fabian there is a popular intj on youtube teaching women to con men and i love her
I'd tend to think with what control freaks ENTJs are, like my former brother-in-law, and how ENFPs hate being controlled, ENTJs might be less compatible than on the list shown. I understand you have a very precise system, it's just those natures would seem to conflict.
actually, they can go well with ENTJs, but more so in a face to face or sexual relationship. Working relationship however, not very good at all.
Actually ENTJs aren't that control oriented(but can be opinionated and ask uncomfortable questions). SJs are far more like that because of their Si function's obsession with rules and traditions. ENTJ wants to please and can be unsure about what they are doing is correct(lacks Ti validation).
Well, I can understand how Si types can be rulebound. At the same "rank", they act like sheep, but in authority they're even worse when they pretend the rules they wrote, or were writen for them, are set in stone made of freaking neutronium.
I still see ENTJs as control freaks in their own right, just a different type of control freak. Instead of duty bound, they are ambition bound and must have everything their way.
ENFP's are good at IQ tests because they are quick
Ur videos are class bro
DOPE.
24:54 ENFP ISTP relationship
I cannot be friends with infps I’m sorry but it’s so boring. we both end up waiting for the other one to provide an experience or say something and it gets so boring and we never know what to do. I can’t get far with an infp unfortunately
That first minute had me cracking up XD. I'm an enfp, and that is SO accurate, I'll sometimes have a certain piece of knowledge that I'm looking for to fit the pieces together in my head, and I'd go to the ends of the earth to get it if i have to. Once I get it, it's like the whole journey never happened and I'm onto the next thing. That's why I'm at this video actually. That's related to how we will often sway the conversation over to whatever we're interested in, because we feel like it's more important than whatever the convo is about. And to us, it is. Love the content CSJ keep it coming
Also yeah i was put in all the gifted classes when i was younger with a great score on my IQ. I am willing to acknowledge that the test is bullshit. True intelligence can't be tested by one test, because intelligence takes so many forms. someone can have a great ability to go very far with an idea, but in an hour long test you couldn't possibly measure that. I'm not afraid to admit this because in my opinion one of the greatest tools for enfps and infps is HUMILITY. If you accept that your beliefs may not be true, and really begin to question yourself, you end up being much more open-minded and your beliefs will be much more valid. something that helps me is stating how certain i am about something I think and stating all the logic i used to reach that conclusion. then, by addressing the foundation of your and others' beliefs, you can reach deeper understanding.
I was so excited when you said you were going to spend some time discussing ENFP-ESTP because it was really interesting...
...and then you spent less than two minutes on it puttering out of energy and making none of your points about it understandable. Obviously, I'm being a little critical, but I'm taking the time to say it because I believe (genuinely) that you have something to say here...but it's still left unsaid....and I *still* want to hear it. Please do speak more about this--and I'm there.
We are releasing new content on it
So the subconscious doesnt like the ego. The ego is just incompatible with the ego.
The ego and the unconcious are too comfy together so no sense of growth can be achived but the person can fill totally relaxed and at ease. And the super ego is kind of the only one not too comfortable with the ego to make it lazy but comfortable enough for them to have a health balanced growth.
So for me ENFP
: ENFP self distruction. Avoid the self if you dont want to go manic
But: good for getting out of the solid persona
: INFJ just get drwoned in whatever they be vibing on
But: good for zen mode, inspiration or relaxation
: ISTJ too harsh too critical it will destroy the self esteem
But: good for humbling the self inccase of egotism
: ESTP makes the person uncomfortable and unsure
But: Good for realizing the need for change, improvement and balanced growth
this video is awesome LMAO
I actually don't get this as an INFP. I thought I was most compatible with ENFPs. And even the bedroom situation has been told to be the best situation from both sides....
yeah, no I disagree.
People can have different views and thoughts. In a book, I read a couple of decades ago, I concluded that ENFPs are most compatible (more for friends) with INFPs, ESFPs, INJFs, and other ENFPs. INFPs are most likely to be friends with ENFPs, ISFP, other INFPs, and INTPs. That is if I remember correctly.
At the same time, life experiences and maturity also could easily effect who one subconsciously connects with as friends.
Craig (ENFP)
Craig B Yep that's true. I mean tbh most of these examples of two INFPs or an INFP and an ENFP sound like examples of immature people and the ENFP and INFJs sound like healthy developed people. I as an INFP never get on with ENFJs and INFJs long term. Long term I get along better with ENFPs and INFPs and so on.
This is one of those things that sounds good on paper but in reality doesn't really work.
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I have tremendous respect for CS Joseph. He does have a very deep understanding of, as he says, Jungian Depth Psychology, and has much information to share.
By the way, Jungian Depth, or Type, Psychology ---
Zindabad!!!!!
(I noticed the "rap" video on your profile. I graduated from ISoI, completing my last 2 years of high school in Islamabad, due to my Dad's international work. This was back in the late 80's. Khoda-hafiz)
Craig B Oh I do too. I think he has a brilliantly deep understanding of the types. I just think he's missed the mark when it comes to compatibility and them working together. I mean one of the only successful marriages I've seen has been between my uncle and aunt who are both ISFJs, the worst is my own parents who are ESFJ and ESFP.
And yep. I'm actually in the UK but families from Pakistan. Haha.
Thought vampires we just like Information lol
I love your humor!! Lol!!
I completely agree with you about macro evolution.
I'm an ENFP and my mother is an ESTJ :/ It's all true what you said about our relationship :(
:) The others are all right too... My first best friend is an ENFJ (and our relationship is perfect as you described), but my second best friend is an ENFP and we get along very well though I think it is more a shoulder to shoulder relationship - we support each other and motivate each other very well because we had passed by the same problems with our mums (her mother is also an ESTJ (or an ISTJ, I'm not quite shore because she is a little more introverted than my mother, but our problems are exactly the same: they treat us like little children and don't have any respect for us...). I think that because my ENFP friend is older than me (she is 45 wile I'm 31), but we are in very different levels in different parts of our live, there is a lot of humility between us as well.... We share sorrows, she ears my counsels attentively and I ear hers; we sometimes disagree, but it is always with a huge amount of respect towards each other. Because we are in such different stages in live, we always try to motivate and to capacitate each other in a very positive way (we fail sometimes), but it is ok; we recognize why we fail (because what lead us to failure is the same), and we get up again. Our friendship is very rewarding, and we are a support for each other against the world that don't understand us... Then my third best friend is an ISFP (the same as my husband, though my husband is much more intuitive, but he as leading Se) and I love her tremendously, but I know that she does not loves me back in the same amount or way (sometimes seems more that she endures me, or recognize and is grateful for my love; but, as my love for her will never ends (because I'm so grateful to the Lord for her life, for she was putted in my way to be my friend), I will love her the same, with the same amount of gushy love that she finds sometimes awkward or smothering... :P I have a lot of interst in knowing how to make this type (ISFP) to feel loved (for obvious reasons)... I'm anxiously and patiently waiting for the video "8 Rules For Loving an ISFP" to get out :DD
Having a very immature enfp mom when I was growing up as an enfp myself. It's a f** nightmare. I cut her off in college, and im still thinking how I'm gonna deal with her. Any suggestions?
That bit about trying to own football teams, haha. crcked me up. I actually have this crazy idea of owning Arsenal football club
Youre right! My enfp colleague is avoiding his istj boss at all times! 😂😂 He hates his boss because he's follow too much on a book! 😂and his istj boss is not trusting him want he's doing to get a job done.
P.s that enfp guy is happily married to his istp wife. She's a teacher.
Wow, a lot of this felt kinda personal
I did the 16 personalities quiz and every time I get ENFP but right on the edge of ENFJ and ENTP... watching this makes me really confused about which type I am, because I have some ENFP friends that I’m really close with and some INFJ’s that I really despise. Is there a better way for me to type myself rather than 16 personalities? I’m also 99% sure my mom is ISTJ, and me and her have a generally good relationship most of the time, so I feel like I’m mistyped. Do you have any recommendations?
learn the type grid: csjoseph.life/typegrid
*Right!?*
I am an Intp, I am sorry for your experiences with ENFP’s. My favorite person in the world is an ENFP, I am able to turn on my Entj self and we have the most interesting discussions.
Yeah, macro-evolution is entirely bunk.
There is no way to define or distinguish adaption by natural selection into a classification of macro or micro adaptions > it's not a separate process from adaptions among a species, also this has absolutely nothing to do with some kind of hypothetical bridge to how the mind works or was formed. In fact, scientist defines species according to most often physical differences and infers from there. Psychological theories such as Depth Psychology are subjective by nature, and so are the theories that make up evolutionary psychology, one doesn't approach the mind from the same starting point nor do they attempt to describe the same thing, merely pieces of the same whole, at best
As an ENFP finally realizing maybe I am not that smart, my inferior Si is triggered which makes my Fi parent feel extremely bad about itself, so my Ne hero must confer with my Te child and try and come up with some method or way of doing everything to make it appear that I am more intelligent than I actually am? Then if my method works, the only way I would be certain is if I have someone acknowledge me for my supposed “intelligence” and since they think I am smart that affirms to me that I actually am because if someone can see me that way then in some lighting it must be true. Is this how this works?
Friendship from deep to acquaintance,
so you’re not competition
Enfps have to be obligated.