hey Guy's yes it was short lived, I have the feeling one day I will own a Pinzgauer again (when I have a big shed) I purchased a new vehicle today... stay tuned
AllOffroad 4x4 Adventures TV I've suffered the last 5 years with low back, S.I. joint and sacrum issues. I can't even sit on couch or recliner more than 10-15 minutes. back in April a buddy calls me and tells me bought the canam Maverick X3. so I prepared my self to hating life and riding for a few minutes. that turned in 6hours. I can't stay I'm such more than without needing a bed to recover. they were absolutely amazing seat. been trying source a couple but they are expensive.
I really wanted to see you build the truck, it would have been extremely unique. I understand your plight when the truck doesn't fit it doesn't fit. That's may sound odd to some, but not everyone can understand why we do what we do. You made the right decision as difficult as it may have been. Good luck on your next build and God bless.
Very sad, because I was almost as excited as you to see what you were going to do with her, but the correct decision for your health. A commanders hatch above the drivers seat would be the only answer to your height problem.
Not sure why this 3 year old video came up in my suggestions now... But the size issues are something interesting. I'm a bit shorter than that (187) with a long torso, and i had no head issues while wearing the then issue steel helmet and going offroad. Given i only experienced the passenger seat(s) but we had tall guys (190-195) driving them with combat boots (which have little sole extensions in the front so you can fixate them on oldschool skibindings... Something tells me that the more comfortable 718 got less space than the older 710 and 712... Or it might be a right hand drive thing? The big black thing above the head at 6:08 is also something i don't remember beeing there in those.
Oh...! It's sad that it couldn't get you accommodate properly inside of it... Such a capable vehicle it was... By the way, myself is also in search of a Pinzgauer 718k. Please guide me, how I can find one?
Oh dear, I'm 6'7" and size 48/49 feet. I'm picking up a 710k on Friday and then driving from Scotland to Southampton, about 430 miles. I really hope I fit.
I don't know it the original petrol version has less stuff on the floor? The seats are very much larger in the more modern ones but even in mine I'm going to have to refabrecate the seat mounting to gain a few inches.
Good to know! I’m 41 years old but have the knees of a man twice my age. Also broke my back as a teen so I have to be pretty picky when it comes to the seating in my vehicles.
Hi Stefan, have you thought of perhaps something a little more modern? kinda newish and something that has been built for today's creature comforts and touring in mind for the Australian outback? the new iveco 4x4 is great but I am not too sure on what the costs are at for dual cab with the back sorted for touring? have you test driven one? and are you looking for something just as big or are you looking for more of a wagon again? Kind Regards George
Hi George, yes looked at the Iveco not a bad truck but well set up still around the 180-200k so bit out of my price range. Already bought another waggon so stay tuned
Sorry to sell the truck again. As a travel car he has a lot of possibilities. And he is a fantastic off road. But if the sitting position is not good. I wonder what car you are going to buy. Defender 130 maybe a option Stephan?
@@colourlight but this was a British built one? They where being built in the UK in the 90’s when the Austrians stopped production... namely to supply UK forces that went with the 4X4 variant
Yes it was build and produced by Styer-Puch as e.g. Puch/Mercedes G in Graz Austra but the main constructor was Czech who left ocupied czehoslovakia Mr. Ledwinka and he was son of another genius who disign Tatras before and after ww2 including a Tatra 97. This model was copied by F. Porsche to made a vw beattle. And btw name Styer Puch come from region styer and from founder name Puch and he was Slovenian. The pinzgauer is literary a mountain goat but it could be quite easily to capsized on the road
Too bad ,looking forward to a camp conversion. I have more foot room in my 65 VW van. Looks like you already have a new truck , but a 78 series with a camper on the tray might work. You guys in Australia have so much more choices than we do than us in the States.(how about a 4x4 Sprinter?)
79 with tray you mean? Not to impressed with 70 series off road abilities, they need a lot of work and money to perform well and a grossly overpriced in my eyes
Ja das ist ja schade für dich, ich kenn das , bin auch 1,96 mit Gr.46 an den Füßen. Der Pinzi ist halt ein Militärvehikel, und wenn man dann größer als der Durchschnitt ( der Habsburger Gebirgsarmee ) ist , dann pascht es nedde! Aber nun kann ich wenigstens mal schauen wie man all das was in OldGerman nicht TÜV-Konform ist in einen Cruiser einbaut. Viel Spass dabei und "Gut Schraub"dabei.
of course....problem is nowadays car are too confortable, you can't compare utility vehicles or trucks designed 30-40 years ago with the confort.... And once you got the utmost confort, hard to go back. And most of the driving in "big trips" is made on road...
+smitthone It's not the comfort, I gave up my Discovery 3 (which is complete luxury) for a Defender which isn't. I changed my play truck from a Discovery 2a for a 1995 Defender single cab so I can do with less comfort but A good seating position and food room if you have problem knees and back is a necessity
I love the defender...problem is a brick and cruising above 100kmh is too painful....not talking about the transmission noise, looks like driving next to a washmachine!
oh maaaaaaaaaaaaan ... well I understand the reason. I really do. I would still keep it for at least one year, change the seat, prolong the driving wheel towards the driver seat. and at least you could keep for the kids. :deep breath: even if u dont have room in the shed can't u keep it outside ? but before selling it would you have at at least one weekend drive with it ?
+Uchuujin tamanegi yes I would have loved to but could not affords to have it standing here and build a new truck parallel. To tour in it I would have had to spent quite a bit more money on 718K
Yeah Pinzgauer is like the Unimog a "work horse" comfort was not an option! Ha ha! Why not buy a portal Axel G Wagon or put Portals under a Discovery ? Maybe put a Patrol on Portals.
@@AlloffroadAu - You should look at a Land Rover FC101 ambulance. I had two while stationed in the UK. I'm 6'2 and had plenty of head room and foot room.
If i way give a suggestion, a 2 inch body lift, would permit you to drop the floor on the driver side and give you the space needed. As for seat Mastercraft would give you even better result then any recaro seat.
AllOffroad 4x4 Adventures TV cool was just interested in what there worth? That's all. Love ya vids mate and like when ya in the tracks up near home ( Newcastle area) keep up the great work 👍
My question is: How tall are you? Actually I have the same health problems, unfortunately due to some bike accidents. It must be serious problem, when you really decide to sell this beauty after such a short time. I hope you find another suitable vehicle soon.
@@AlloffroadAu 193 cm. Damned. You´re a giant. Sure. with that size this car is really a little tiny for you. But I think, and I hope, that with my (short) 180 cm it could be possible, to sit in this Pinzgauer for even longer distances. But your video has shown me another quite important aspect to be aware of. Thanks. Then I wish you a lot of interesting trips with your Landcruiser.
Diese Bauweise ist irgendwie total weit weg vom normalen Leben 😎 , es sei denn der Fahrer ist unter 175 cm groß. Wenn ich mit meinen zwei Meter Größe daneben stehe, dann sieht der Pinzi aus wie ein höhergelegter Golf in dem ich nicht einsteigen will, weil ich nicht weiß wo ich meine Beine hinfalten soll. Solche Gedanken hatte ich des öfteren als ich auf dem Hof vom "Philipp aus dem Hanfbachtal" nach einer neuen Basis für ein Wohnmobil gesucht habe und unweigerlich an solche kleinen Pinzis vorbei kam. Fahre seit zwei Jahren einen robusten 93 er Ford Explorer 4.0 OHV mit dem ich jedes Jahr eine Fernreise mache. In dem Auto kann ich hinten bequem schlafen wenn es nötig ist und der robuste Motor hat mit der weichen Automatik eine gute Mischung für schweres Gelände wie 2017 in Russland.
Another case of someone trying to use a go anywhere workhorse as a daily driver. It was meant to take you through the worst conditions safely. It's not a soccer mom vehicle.
Yea mate I’m such a soccer dad maybe have a look trough my channel videos and see where I have been over the past few years.... while I love the Pinz safe it is not and is was not made for tall people like me with a 46 shoe size.
In a frontal collision you you probably loose your legs........for a replacement I'd want a L/R 130 with portals, commercial engine/transmission upgrade.......multi purpose vehicle to keep for life
Hey I am 6-4" tall or about 1.98 meters. You look fairly tall as well? I have wondered about leg and headroom in them as they are like hens teeth here , very hard to find in Canada.
So really what it boils down to is that you do not fit the vehicle rather than the other way around. You forgot to mention the one big drawback which is that in the unfortunate event of an impact your legs are the impact zone.
Hm because I was planing to use it as a tourer if you look at my Chanel you see I spend more time off road than most, however it had a starting issue where it would not start when engine was hot and I realised it was way to small for me in the drivers seat Département so unfortunately never went off road with it.
Ähmm... your accent... sounds damn deep German... richtig oder? Still Pinzgauer for President... best time at Austrian Military was "driving" to Locations with this thing... driving, its more waiting for the Location comes to u
Why give it a promo when you do not give it your your time........it's like you give a car a promo after a four week ownership Sttuff good luck with that....... Land Rover most awarded 4WD world.......... to date .......daughter or not
I gave it a promo because it's a unique truck with only 2 in the country and there are many, many aspects of the truck I like but ultimately at this stage, it, unfortunately, can't be my sole tourer. I love LandRovers but I'm not a slave to any brand, I do appreciate and like other brands and models if the car ticks my boxes I'm happy to drive it... and I still have my Defender "Tiny"
same here..... but had some pretty good offers and ultimately I can't have a Pinz as my sole tourer. Went to a good home though and I'm quite sure we will see it in a video at some stage
hey Guy's yes it was short lived, I have the feeling one day I will own a Pinzgauer again (when I have a big shed) I purchased a new vehicle today... stay tuned
is your back trouble low back or sacrum ?
Lower, mainly if I sit in truck for long time
AllOffroad 4x4 Adventures TV I've suffered the last 5 years with low back, S.I. joint and sacrum issues. I can't even sit on couch or recliner more than 10-15 minutes. back in April a buddy calls me and tells me bought the canam Maverick X3. so I prepared my self to hating life and riding for a few minutes. that turned in 6hours. I can't stay I'm such more than without needing a bed to recover. they were absolutely amazing seat. been trying source a couple but they are expensive.
Or maybe when you have shorter legs! ;-)
Sware I saw this in Canowindra, NSW (West of Orange) with a very proud owner.
Great looking machine.
I really wanted to see you build the truck, it would have been extremely unique. I understand your plight when the truck doesn't fit it doesn't fit. That's may sound odd to some, but not everyone can understand why we do what we do. You made the right decision as difficult as it may have been. Good luck on your next build and God bless.
Thank you Emilio, it was a difficult decision I had two sleepless nights over it but ultimately it was the right one at this stage
Very sad, because I was almost as excited as you to see what you were going to do with her, but the correct decision for your health. A commanders hatch above the drivers seat would be the only answer to your height problem.
Not sure why this 3 year old video came up in my suggestions now... But the size issues are something interesting. I'm a bit shorter than that (187) with a long torso, and i had no head issues while wearing the then issue steel helmet and going offroad. Given i only experienced the passenger seat(s) but we had tall guys (190-195) driving them with combat boots (which have little sole extensions in the front so you can fixate them on oldschool skibindings... Something tells me that the more comfortable 718 got less space than the older 710 and 712... Or it might be a right hand drive thing? The big black thing above the head at 6:08 is also something i don't remember beeing there in those.
Oh...! It's sad that it couldn't get you accommodate properly inside of it... Such a capable vehicle it was...
By the way, myself is also in search of a Pinzgauer 718k. Please guide me, how I can find one?
Why not consider installing some used SAAB seats? Beautifully comfortable, even heated and cooled. Easy to find .
Oh dear, I'm 6'7" and size 48/49 feet. I'm picking up a 710k on Friday and then driving from Scotland to Southampton, about 430 miles. I really hope I fit.
Good luck you won’t be able to put your foot flat on the ground in the front but they are great fun to drive
17 hrs shared driving the whole length of England (and a bit) and it was great. Loads of room for feet but headroom is no more than acceptable.
glad it worked for you, I could never find a comfortable foot position and my head always touched roof slightly (and that was on tar)
I don't know it the original petrol version has less stuff on the floor? The seats are very much larger in the more modern ones but even in mine I'm going to have to refabrecate the seat mounting to gain a few inches.
Greetings from Austria to Australia. We have been confused with you so often! Have fun with OUR car!
hello Claudia greetings to beautiful Austria i have spend many days skiing there in my younger years
Thank you Sir
Good to know! I’m 41 years old but have the knees of a man twice my age. Also broke my back as a teen so I have to be pretty picky when it comes to the seating in my vehicles.
Fair enough reasons for selling.... any ideas as to what you're going to replace it with?
Hi Stefan, have you thought of perhaps something a little more modern? kinda newish and something that has been built for today's creature comforts and touring in mind for the Australian outback? the new iveco 4x4 is great but I am not too sure on what the costs are at for dual cab with the back sorted for touring?
have you test driven one?
and are you looking for something just as big or are you looking for more of a wagon again?
Kind Regards
George
Hi George, yes looked at the Iveco not a bad truck but well set up still around the 180-200k so bit out of my price range. Already bought another waggon so stay tuned
Sorry to sell the truck again. As a travel car he has a lot of possibilities. And he is a fantastic off road. But if the sitting position is not good. I wonder what car you are going to buy. Defender 130 maybe a option Stephan?
+Raymond Logister looked at 130 as well....
My aircooled gas 710K will go 110kph on flat, but is happier and quieter around 90-100kph.
my one has done 120-130kmph on the flat but it becomes quite loud then
Sorry to hear that Stefan -- I love that Old German Warrior -
+Klaus Zungler Yes it was a great truck just not suited as my main tourer
its actually austrian
@@colourlight but this was a British built one? They where being built in the UK in the 90’s when the Austrians stopped production... namely to supply UK forces that went with the 4X4 variant
Awww...was looking forward to seeing videos of this rig out in the bush :(
Same here but she went to Canberra so I'm sure you will see her on a trip video one day
pinzgauer: best offroader, Austrian quality! 110kmh? we get ours up to 130kmh
lol didn’t try 130, but also have bigger Tyres 33" so probably a bit slower
Yes it was build and produced by Styer-Puch as e.g. Puch/Mercedes G in Graz Austra but the main constructor was Czech who left ocupied czehoslovakia Mr. Ledwinka and he was son of another genius who disign Tatras before and after ww2 including a Tatra 97. This model was copied by F. Porsche to made a vw beattle. And btw name Styer Puch come from region styer and from founder name Puch and he was Slovenian. The pinzgauer is literary a mountain goat but it could be quite easily to capsized on the road
this is nonsense. father and son were born in austria
Maybe you haven’t heard of a Unimog! Solid axles and coil springs!
Too bad ,looking forward to a camp conversion. I have more foot room in my 65 VW van. Looks like you already have a new truck , but a 78 series with a camper on the tray might work. You guys in Australia have so much more choices than we do than us in the States.(how about a 4x4 Sprinter?)
79 with tray you mean? Not to impressed with 70 series off road abilities, they need a lot of work and money to perform well and a grossly overpriced in my eyes
Ja das ist ja schade für dich, ich kenn das , bin auch 1,96 mit Gr.46 an den Füßen.
Der Pinzi ist halt ein Militärvehikel, und wenn man dann größer als der Durchschnitt ( der Habsburger Gebirgsarmee ) ist , dann pascht es nedde!
Aber nun kann ich wenigstens mal schauen wie man all das was in OldGerman nicht TÜV-Konform ist in einen Cruiser einbaut. Viel Spass dabei und "Gut Schraub"dabei.
thanks for video, I had trouble sleeping, this had me nodding right off no problems
Glad I could help mate
Waw, what a beauty !
of course....problem is nowadays car are too confortable, you can't compare utility vehicles or trucks designed 30-40 years ago with the confort....
And once you got the utmost confort, hard to go back. And most of the driving in "big trips" is made on road...
+smitthone It's not the comfort, I gave up my Discovery 3 (which is complete luxury) for a Defender which isn't. I changed my play truck from a Discovery 2a for a 1995 Defender single cab so I can do with less comfort but A good seating position and food room if you have problem knees and back is a necessity
I love the defender...problem is a brick and cruising above 100kmh is too painful....not talking about the transmission noise, looks like driving next to a washmachine!
noise is manageable (if it's well insulated) however certainly not a quite as most other cars but yes cruising speed and towing I 100% agree
any ideas on what vehicle you will be getting next? 😋
oh maaaaaaaaaaaaan ... well I understand the reason. I really do. I would still keep it for at least one year, change the seat, prolong the driving wheel towards the driver seat. and at least you could keep for the kids. :deep breath: even if u dont have room in the shed can't u keep it outside ? but before selling it would you have at at least one weekend drive with it ?
+Uchuujin tamanegi yes I would have loved to but could not affords to have it standing here and build a new truck parallel. To tour in it I would have had to spent quite a bit more money on 718K
but at least have you recorded at least one small trip with it ?
no only took it up to Tuggera and to film the video, will be picked up today so no time for a trip
Yeah Pinzgauer is like the Unimog a "work horse" comfort was not an option! Ha ha! Why not buy a portal Axel G Wagon or put Portals under a Discovery ? Maybe put a Patrol on Portals.
have Portals in Tiny, for a tourer Portals are not required really
Taking into account the severity of your medical problems have you considered the purchase of an ambulance?
see I tried that the Pinzgauer was an ambulance vehicle :-)
@@AlloffroadAu - You should look at a Land Rover FC101 ambulance. I had two while stationed in the UK. I'm 6'2 and had plenty of head room and foot room.
How tall are you? I am looking into buying a pinzgauer and I'm curious if I have to worry.
193cm
Stefan, are you buying a 6x6 perentie?
Cheers.
If i way give a suggestion, a 2 inch body lift, would permit you to drop the floor on the driver side and give you the space needed. As for seat Mastercraft would give you even better result then any recaro seat.
Jammerschade, aber absolut verständlich. Viel Glück beim Verkauf und mehr Glück mit dem nächsten Fahrzeug!!
danke chris ist schon verkauft und das neue auto is auch schon da
Ich denke mit dem 105 series hast du keinen schlechten Tausch gemacht 👍🏼
You could always drive Thor around
What sort of money are you looking for big red ?? Would really like to know
already sold mate
AllOffroad 4x4 Adventures TV cool was just interested in what there worth? That's all. Love ya vids mate and like when ya in the tracks up near home ( Newcastle area) keep up the great work 👍
nearly impossible to get one so not a cheap investment
AllOffroad 4x4 Adventures TV whys it so hard to say the price on the vehicle?
My question is: How tall are you?
Actually I have the same health problems, unfortunately due to some bike accidents.
It must be serious problem, when you really decide to sell this beauty after such a short time.
I hope you find another suitable vehicle soon.
+Sina Alex 193cm and yes mate I bought a Toyota Landcruiser 105 and did a 1HDFTE conversion.
@@AlloffroadAu 193 cm. Damned. You´re a giant. Sure. with that size this car is really a little tiny for you. But I think, and I hope, that with my (short) 180 cm it could be possible, to sit in this Pinzgauer for even longer distances. But your video has shown me another quite important aspect to be aware of. Thanks. Then I wish you a lot of interesting trips with your Landcruiser.
Sorry, i fell asleep. What was that in 10 second point form again?
lol, short attention span? I give it to you in one point form: It's Sold
Ex Telsta or military Mitsubishi canter 4x4 would make a similar vehicle to the Pinzgauer but much more comfortable and parts availability.
Never heard of them, must have a look
I am interested in a Pinzgauer myself, can I ask what sort of price range this vehicle is in??
Not many of 718K around at all so they don't go cheap
Diese Bauweise ist irgendwie total weit weg vom normalen Leben 😎 , es sei denn der Fahrer ist unter 175 cm groß. Wenn ich mit meinen zwei Meter Größe daneben stehe, dann sieht der Pinzi aus wie ein höhergelegter Golf in dem ich nicht einsteigen will, weil ich nicht weiß wo ich meine Beine hinfalten soll. Solche Gedanken hatte ich des öfteren als ich auf dem Hof vom "Philipp aus dem Hanfbachtal" nach einer neuen Basis für ein Wohnmobil gesucht habe und unweigerlich an solche kleinen Pinzis vorbei kam.
Fahre seit zwei Jahren einen robusten 93 er Ford Explorer 4.0 OHV mit dem ich jedes Jahr eine Fernreise mache. In dem Auto kann ich hinten bequem schlafen wenn es nötig ist und der robuste Motor hat mit der weichen Automatik eine gute Mischung für schweres Gelände wie 2017 in Russland.
ja defintive nichts fuer grosse leute :-)
Another case of someone trying to use a go anywhere workhorse as a daily driver. It was meant to take you through the worst conditions safely. It's not a soccer mom vehicle.
Yea mate I’m such a soccer dad maybe have a look trough my channel videos and see where I have been over the past few years.... while I love the Pinz safe it is not and is was not made for tall people like me with a 46 shoe size.
If you need comfort, sounds like you need a Discovery 2 Td5 ;-)
If the Defender was too small, the Disco would be even worse
PINZGAUER IS ALREADY SOLD GUY'S
In a frontal collision you you probably loose your legs........for a replacement I'd want a L/R 130 with portals, commercial
engine/transmission upgrade.......multi purpose vehicle to keep for life
Yes I also considered a 130 with a 4DB1 and auto Conversion but it would not solve the limited space on the rear seats
Hello, is Pinzgauer still there? How much is it?
long sold mate
Did you deleted your Pinzgauer videos made in Tasmania?
nop that's not my video I never took my Pinz to Tassie thats a friend of mine with the Yello Pinz search for Blakey010 his videos are still there
Larges tires for Nature roads,,, plus 1,9 cdti 150hp...wild giat in all times
Hey I am 6-4" tall or about 1.98 meters. You look fairly tall as well? I have wondered about leg and headroom in them as they are like hens teeth here , very hard to find in Canada.
I would say restricted :-)
same thing with me so i got my self a ex RAAF 4x4 Sprinter van. look then up.
hm interesting you mean a Mercedes Sprinter van?
yes
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So really what it boils down to is that you do not fit the vehicle rather than the other way around. You forgot to mention the one big drawback which is that in the unfortunate event of an impact your legs are the impact zone.
yep correct
Ah. The key words, “I have never taken it off-road”. Question. Why would you buy an extremely capable off-road vehicle?
Hm because I was planing to use it as a tourer if you look at my Chanel you see I spend more time off road than most, however it had a starting issue where it would not start when engine was hot and I realised it was way to small for me in the drivers seat Département so unfortunately never went off road with it.
Don't see these In Britain be nice maybe try a drive on one
What class licence do you need to drive one of these? C class or MR?
It can be kept below 3.5 tons with shrinking the allowed cargo weight. Does this answer your question?
take a land cruiser hzj78, then you have same space and muych better driving position, better than the deffender also.
Troopy is not bad space wise but not very capable off road and the engine is underpowered so I settled for a Landcruiser 105 with a 1HDFTE conversion.
Not to mention you would loose your legs in a minor front accident ......
Did this one came from SGB ???
not sure I did not Import it.
that's a shame and very short lived what's next?
Buy a p38, comfortable and capable.
yes but far to small for a family tourer
Fair enough
I thought you were referring to the P-38 aircraft :)
I recomend to you, try the Unimog Doka.
Wow - I am in Australia and watch for these things being sold - didn't see this up for sale :-(
was sold before I listed it....
why didn't you just go for a landcruiser or patrol
Stay tuned
What kind of a nutcase purchases a Pinzgauer like this and hasn't driven it off road?
A nutcase like me mate, could not pass the opportunity and don’t regret having had it even though only for a short while, what’s your issue with it?
You need a Land Cruiser.
Hm look at my other Videos I have one now
Ähmm... your accent... sounds damn deep German... richtig oder? Still Pinzgauer for President... best time at Austrian Military was "driving" to Locations with this thing... driving, its more waiting for the Location comes to u
Hallo Hubert, ja hast du richtig gehört :-)
I bet you’re kicking yourself about selling that now
yes and no, it still is to small for me to sit in for long drives
Must be nice being a millionaire 😎
not sure mate, are you one? tell me how is it.
no good mate u should of tried it before hand
+Hard Liquor 4x4 lol at least I owned a drove one a little, I haven't lost money on it so all good
Hang on , wait you sold the defender!! No !
my Touring Defender Milka yes, not Tiny though
mate that thing was a weapon has given me lots of ideas for my defender !
Why give it a promo when you do not give it your your time........it's like you give a car a promo after a four week ownership
Sttuff good luck with that....... Land Rover most awarded 4WD world.......... to date .......daughter or not
I gave it a promo because it's a unique truck with only 2 in the country and there are many, many aspects of the truck I like but ultimately at this stage, it, unfortunately, can't be my sole tourer. I love LandRovers but I'm not a slave to any brand, I do appreciate and like other brands and models if the car ticks my boxes I'm happy to drive it... and I still have my Defender "Tiny"
Buyers remorse
sellers remorse :-)
After 2 days? I had an air cooled 710M and it wasn't too noisy on long drives. I would have given one of my nuts to have a 718.
No after 2 weeks, height about driver seat and sitting position for my size was the main issue, the noise I could have lived with
genial
delphdom
try a delica
i was really looking forward to seeing the pinz out in the wild.
same here..... but had some pretty good offers and ultimately I can't have a Pinz as my sole tourer. Went to a good home though and I'm quite sure we will see it in a video at some stage
You sell it because you don't live on the Alps...