Scorpion vs Sharpshooter - Sting vs Bret Hart in WCW

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    When Bret Hart was in the WWF during the mid 90s and when Sting was on the opposing WCW side, many fans wanted to see who would win in a match. Not only did Hart and Sting have the same finishing move, but they were also once considered the very best "good guys" the WWF and WCW had during the 90s. Wrestling fans adored Bret Hart and Sting, and while people discussed dream matches like Undertaker vs Sting and Goldberg vs Steve Ausitn, many fans wanted to know who would win between the Hitman and the Stinger.
    The history of WWF can't be discussed without mentioning Bret Hart, and the history of WCW can't be mentioned without Sting. At one point, it felt like both men wouldn't budge from their respective companies. But, the possibility of a Hart vs Sting match became a reality when Bret left the WWF together with other members of the Hart Foundation. Bret showed up in World Championship Wrestling as a babyface, and he helped Sting secure the WCW championship at Starrcade 1997. As 1998 went on though, both Bret and Sting's roles within WCW would drastically change. Sting would join the nWo Wolfpac, and Bret would align himself with nWo Hollywood. When Sting faced Bret at Halloween Havoc 98, Bret was now the heel while Sting remained a babyface. All subsequent meetings between Hart and Sting would see the roles again getting reversed, Sting worked as the "bad guy" while Hart was now portrayed as the "good guy".
    This video looks at Bret and Sting's matches in WCW. Topics and matches covered include:
    00:00 - WWF vs WCW dream matches
    05:13 - The buildup towards Bret and Sting's first match
    11:21 - Sting and Bret prepare for their Halloween Havoc match
    13:56 - Hart vs Sting at Halloween Havoc 98
    18:31 - Bret vs Sting in 1999
    - Much More
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  • @razorsedge3107
    @razorsedge3107 3 ปีที่แล้ว +224

    Either one was slapped onto my siblings in the 90’s

    • @ecgf
      @ecgf 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @rekmadethebeat
      @rekmadethebeat 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      HELL YEAH and the figure four

    • @RichSmithson
      @RichSmithson 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      My friends older brother sat down hard on me when he put me in a Boston crab. Never let anyone put me in one of those holds again. Felt like my back was on the verge of snapping.

    • @lucaspless8599
      @lucaspless8599 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@RichSmithson I always loved how the announcers claimed these holds hurt the legs. I have three brothers (two older and one younger) and we practiced every hold imaginable on each other. The crab and death lock destroy the back fiercely . I had a friend that thought it was all b.s. I told him if he could last 10 seconds in my scorpion death lock I'd give him 20 bucks (Late 90's and I was 15ish). I took it easy on him for about 5 seconds. He wheezed in pain, but wouldn't give. He even gloated that it didn't really hurt. Then I raised that scorpion tail and dropped it in nice and deep. He cried like a little beech and never sniffed that 10 seconds. I laughed hard just typing that. Good memories. And yeah, Bret's was better.

    • @Gunners_Mate_Guns
      @Gunners_Mate_Guns 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I've been in the Boston Crab and handed it out on three occasions.
      I've personally seen the Scorpion Death Lock given to a guy out of genuine anger by a another guy.
      Anyone who thinks these two holds are B.S. has no idea what he's talking about.
      If applied properly, they are incredibly effective submission holds.

  • @thewaker34
    @thewaker34 3 ปีที่แล้ว +130

    Wrestling was so great in the 90's

    • @BC-bf2eq
      @BC-bf2eq 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Yah and today its a fuckin joke.

    • @glamgal7106
      @glamgal7106 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Yes, wrestling was the BOMB in the 1990s. Because I lived in a NYC suburb(still do), it was a RITUAL for my friends and I to go to Madison Square Garden, Nassau Coliseum and the Meadowlands for "house shows." The wrestlers gave the fans "that little something extra" that made them WANT to return--they made efforts to acknowledge them. Bret said that "you never forget your fans. They are the ones who put food on your table and pay your bills." He always had/has a warm smile when he saw/sees me.

    • @glamgal7106
      @glamgal7106 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@BC-bf2eq I agree with you that wrestling has become a joke--that was even before the pandemic. What's not a joke is that wrestlers have tested positive for COVID and whoever does temp checks only does it weekly, not more often than that. Someone correct me if I'm wrong--wrestling is a CONTACT sport. If distancing is needed to avoid getting sick, at the very least there should be more temp checks. Another joke is the "wellness policy" amid all this happening.

    • @zemox2534
      @zemox2534 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@glamgal7106 Not all wrestling is a joke. If you were all mire open minded you would see there are still plenty of good wrestling promotions in the world right now. ROH, MLW, PROGRESS, WXW, OTT WRESTLING, PRO WRESTLING NOAH, STARDOM, DRAGON GATE AND AJPW.

    • @PreacherTHC
      @PreacherTHC 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The 90's were so great in wrestling!😉🤪

  • @WarhawkBeyond2040
    @WarhawkBeyond2040 3 ปีที่แล้ว +173

    Two of the biggest and most respected wrestling legends of the 90s, it doesn't get any better than Bret Hart and Sting

    • @Marc_Masters
      @Marc_Masters 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      This duel should have lit the wrestling world on fire, Im not sure why it didnt smash!

    • @antology7
      @antology7 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@Marc_Masters WCW didn't make it a ppv main event. Sting should have beaten Hogan clean at Starrcade, then Bret should have challenged him for the belt.

    • @wrestlingtapes2036
      @wrestlingtapes2036 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You’re right brother

    • @antology7
      @antology7 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Jonathan McCully This match has more passion to it (in my opinion): www.dailymotion.com/video/x2k1ob2
      Sting is heel at the time. This is after Sting had several months break after Halloween Havoc.

    • @alvintiangco351
      @alvintiangco351 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah

  • @yeomsta
    @yeomsta 3 ปีที่แล้ว +321

    Your channel has went from being something I watch on the fringe to one that I actively look for new videos for. Your stuff is so good. Thanks!

    • @wrightyy
      @wrightyy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Get them in whilst you can! There won't be many highlights of the current product in 20 years time!!!

    • @kajenbop
      @kajenbop 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Enter AEW!

    • @Sunshine215clfh
      @Sunshine215clfh 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Jesus saves 🙂

    • @dr.loomis4221
      @dr.loomis4221 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kajenbop nah...AEW is WCW all over again

    • @soysaucefool
      @soysaucefool 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@wrightyy every generation thinks that, what matters to you. Isn't the same as what stuff means to the younger fans

  • @anthonysoto2923
    @anthonysoto2923 3 ปีที่แล้ว +135

    I used to love pitting them against each other in wcw revenge in the N64....oh those were the days.

    • @richg1677
      @richg1677 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      What a fantastic game that was 🙌🏻

    • @edge803
      @edge803 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I had that game . Good old days but you could only have 4 people in the ring at the same .

    • @cHrIs84.
      @cHrIs84. 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Imagine wcw/nWo revenge would get an updated remastered version 🤩 or wwf no mercy

    • @sonicthehedgehog5360
      @sonicthehedgehog5360 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@richg1677 that game was legendary I hella played it as a kid

    • @CraigKostelecky
      @CraigKostelecky 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@cHrIs84. There are some awesome hacks out there for N64 emulators on PC.

  • @animefan9329
    @animefan9329 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Sting didn't have to apply much pressure when he used the scorpion deathlock. He had the strength and size to make it look painful. I remember Ron garvin using the hold earlier than sting, but to me it was sting that popularized the hold from 1987 to 1991. During this time Bret was a tag team wrestler never used the hold until mid 1991. He did it with the left leg. Look like he was hurt people for real. But sting was my favorite so I was pissed. To me sting's application looks more natural and easy to do. Bret technique is excellent but a little too technical. Sting use to apply it with one hand. That to me look more impressive. The stinger is the greatest of all time.

    • @michaelbobic7135
      @michaelbobic7135 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You're right, I'd completely forgotten that Ronnie Garvin had used the scorpion.

  • @EVGriffinJr
    @EVGriffinJr 3 ปีที่แล้ว +198

    Sting, in his early days, could make the scorpion look painful. As the years went on, it just looked weaker. Bret Hart, on the other hand, his version always looks painful! Even the times he put it on post the stroke he suffered!

    • @CraigKostelecky
      @CraigKostelecky 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The move on the post was much more of a figure-four and I believe that’s what they were calling it too.

    • @Nolimitss6
      @Nolimitss6 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@CraigKostelecky you've misunderstood him. He wasn't referring to performing the move around a post

    • @CraigKostelecky
      @CraigKostelecky 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Thanks for the clarification. After reading it again, I don’t know how I misread it the first time.

    • @EVGriffinJr
      @EVGriffinJr 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@CraigKostelecky I was referring to the years after Bret Harte suffered his stroke in 2002. He will occasionally still put people in the sharpshooter and it still looks more painful than anything Sting did.

    • @coachmikesfilmroom3111
      @coachmikesfilmroom3111 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@EVGriffinJr I agree to a point. It depended on who Sting was wrestling. If he was wrestling a younger wrestler later in his career, he'd sink it in deep. If he wrestled an older vet like a flair or hogan and such, he'd not sit out near as much, taking it easier on their damaged bodies.

  • @Lionel212001
    @Lionel212001 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I remember Bret's matches vividly as a kid growing up in the 90s. He was my favorite wrestler back then because his matches seemed so real. He added a certain degree of legitimacy to pro wrestling and told a story like no other. In-ring, I think that only Benoit surpassed him (despite how things ended). There will never be another.

  • @jamessteel9016
    @jamessteel9016 3 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    Bret Hart v Sting should of been a classic match, but like most things WCW did it sucked

    • @squarepickle
      @squarepickle 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Still better than 90% of WWE's content since 2006.

    • @miaorange
      @miaorange 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @Seth Kaplan It's ironic you say that because years later, sting goes to wwe and they don't know how to use him.

    • @gst013
      @gst013 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Should have, even...

    • @PS-gr5wh
      @PS-gr5wh 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes like 83 weeks in a row?

  • @kingoftheswing38
    @kingoftheswing38 3 ปีที่แล้ว +140

    The sharp shooter is incomparable to any hold. He excecuted it excellently lol

    • @aidsskrillex5355
      @aidsskrillex5355 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Excellently executed!

    • @georgemunro319
      @georgemunro319 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      One is a great wrestler. The other is a great performer and entertainer

    • @CraftyVegetarian13
      @CraftyVegetarian13 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@aidsskrillex5355 seems like a Bill and Ted air guitar riff is appropriate after saying this...

    • @kingoftheswing38
      @kingoftheswing38 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@CraftyVegetarian13 Most Definitely lol

    • @jamescourt5201
      @jamescourt5201 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Scorpion deathlock existed long before Bret Hart stole it. He was performing a piledriver than counting 1, 2, all the fingers he had.

  • @liamschulzrules
    @liamschulzrules 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    My god Id forgotten how long and luscious Sting's hair used to be.

  • @theonewhowokeup9987
    @theonewhowokeup9987 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    @2:00 So that's where Shawn Michaels taunt came from in Wrestlemania 2000 and No Mercy.

  • @AestheticDelta
    @AestheticDelta ปีที่แล้ว +5

    During the 90s I was a WCW guy but I was a Bret Hart guy too and whether he or Sting won both were equally significant. From a wrestling and drama standpoint there were a lot more swerves than a novela, maybe more than my younger self could wrap my head around but it was great. That US Title might be the most prestigious belt worn that whole decade

  • @NitroNEXT
    @NitroNEXT 3 ปีที่แล้ว +69

    The matches weren't great but I get the mentality behind it; gotta protect both players. It's not ideal but atleast WCW didn't bury Bret for being a "WWF guy", the same courtesy wouldn't have been given to Sting if the matches took place in WWF. Bret would have gone over clean every time if Vince had any say in it.

    • @wrestlingtapes2036
      @wrestlingtapes2036 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The matches are underrated

    • @Thor-Orion
      @Thor-Orion 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@wrestlingtapes2036 Bret’s actual matches from WCW can be pretty great. It’s his booking that blows for the most part.

    • @baronvg
      @baronvg 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I believe it.

    • @MrBlack-wt5er
      @MrBlack-wt5er 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They actually slightly did bury Bret Hart and then tried to resurrect him and THEN used him poorly when they got him involved and actually has him completing against real heavyweights on his level rather than a bunch of mid - card wrestlers and he had to cheat half those wins or he would lose some of them and the whole booking thing was just stupid and it was probably (Nash) so I guess Nash can thank himself for contributing to the downfall of the wcw which paid him far more money than wwf

  • @aeonthemagus7841
    @aeonthemagus7841 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Seeing the old school Sting face paint makes me feel 5 years old again

  • @luckywallace
    @luckywallace 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I really enjoy the match between Bret and Sting on Nitro at the end of 1999 - except for the screwy ending (which is just WCW 101 at this stage) it's a fantastic meeting between the two.
    Bret actually had a pretty good run at the end of 1999 in WCW up until he was injured, including the classic Owen Hart memorial match and finally winning the title at Mayhem.

  • @dangxdc8348
    @dangxdc8348 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    HITMAN vs STING could have been much more in depth and tense

  • @DJDoubleCee
    @DJDoubleCee 3 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    I enjoyed seeing both holds but I like Bret Hart’s sharpshooter better.

    • @Azriel1932
      @Azriel1932 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      By far. Sting's application just isn't as convincing to me. Also, to me, it just never matched his character or the rest of his moveset. I guess it makes sense for his feud with Flair but besides that idk, just always seemed weird to me.

    • @ahousecatnamedmr.jenkins1052
      @ahousecatnamedmr.jenkins1052 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      What about Shawn Michaels sharpshooter? It's a career ender in the WWF 😁😁😁

    • @Azriel1932
      @Azriel1932 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Phenomenal Ace true

    • @BlueLighteningGojo
      @BlueLighteningGojo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Brets looked like it was more painful.

    • @ClassicKrusty
      @ClassicKrusty 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yea while I love Sting Bret’s sharpshooter looked like he was better at sinching it up, tighter application in other words.

  • @Makainternational
    @Makainternational 3 ปีที่แล้ว +71

    Of course it’s Bret, Monsoon didn’t call Bret the excellence of execution for nothing.

    • @kevinmichael503
      @kevinmichael503 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Damn right !

    • @CornyClaudyMedia
      @CornyClaudyMedia 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Bingo!

    • @at0micwerew0lf
      @at0micwerew0lf 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Brett is t the only wrestler Monsoon called "the excellence of execution".

    • @CornyClaudyMedia
      @CornyClaudyMedia 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@at0micwerew0lf Indeed. Gorilla came up with the nickname and used it every time he called one of Bret's matches. Monsoon put him over like no one else ever did, yet I have never heard Bret acknowledge that, strangely.

    • @yoholmes273
      @yoholmes273 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You realize of course, that phrase was one of the many "Gorillaisms" used all the time before Bret even went to WWF. He used the terms such as excellently executed and unstoppable force vs the immoveable object virtually all the time. Certainly before they become famous for what they are known for now.

  • @T-Bag13
    @T-Bag13 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Two amazingly talented wrestlers.

  • @tracyhandy3236
    @tracyhandy3236 3 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    Big Sting fan, but he would never look like he was applying pressure with the scorpion most times.

    • @illkid86
      @illkid86 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      He would also stand up most times while doing the hold

    • @ironcrosstrainingltd6482
      @ironcrosstrainingltd6482 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      It's true Bret really locked it in tight and made it look unbreakable. Sting is my favorite

    • @Sunshine215clfh
      @Sunshine215clfh 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Jesus saves 🙂

    • @terrybrown5402
      @terrybrown5402 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Because alot of the time he wasn't with guys who had back problems like hogan. He was just protecting the guys he worked with. Watch sting vs flair or rick rude prior to his back injury and youll see sting sitting all the way back.

    • @BrandonGavin_EDC
      @BrandonGavin_EDC 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@terrybrown5402 exactly they apply it how they can to who they work with, they don’t want to hurt them. I just think Bret was so smooth with it he made it look better overall. He could apply it from so many different positions and ways.

  • @Airzy_723
    @Airzy_723 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Use to put that move on my little bro till he cried screaming. Who would've thought he'd whoop my ass now if we wrastled!! 😂

  • @kingragnar8023
    @kingragnar8023 3 ปีที่แล้ว +80

    Sting took time off after halloween havoc to get his life together and that's when he became born again christian sting

    • @silviamarquesfankanal1463
      @silviamarquesfankanal1463 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      should have been Surfer Sting again then

    • @jordandupe398
      @jordandupe398 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      PiLL Addiction?

    • @kingragnar8023
      @kingragnar8023 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@jordandupe398 yes and going through a divorce bc his wife found of he was cheating. He was at complete rock bottom. But he turned it around and is a miracle

    • @bugsyproductions3140
      @bugsyproductions3140 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sky daddy sting

    • @Vaga-Bard
      @Vaga-Bard 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bugsyproductions3140 you idiot, God isn't in the sky. He's inside man. What are you talking about.?

  • @ferriswheeler08
    @ferriswheeler08 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    17:11 I have no idea why.. but Bret leg dropping the ref at this point caught me by suprise and I still laugh at it to this day.. take that ref lol

    • @23Revan84
      @23Revan84 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      😂😂

  • @bjrollick5262
    @bjrollick5262 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Also once Brett got to WCW Sting wasn’t using the Scorpian to much anymore. He would use it from time to time but he was mostly using the Death Drop

    • @Smokey1419
      @Smokey1419 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Ill always remember Starrcade 97 when Sting had Hogan in the Deathlock and he pointed to Bret before he sat down, one of the coolest moments to me as a kid (regardless of the botched finish)

  • @SwaggaLeo
    @SwaggaLeo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +78

    Bret did his unique always with his left leg and more snug looking.

    • @burntvirtue
      @burntvirtue 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      That's right. If it's not the left leg, it's not a Sharpshooter.

    • @Coyote-wm5op
      @Coyote-wm5op 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      It always looks better and tighter if you’re short

    • @gollick
      @gollick 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I prefer sting overall, but his scorpion was often sloppy

    • @Bright_Ghost-308
      @Bright_Ghost-308 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      But the name scorpion death lock suit sting better because the opponent look like a shape of a scorpion.

    • @heinrichthomas7008
      @heinrichthomas7008 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      and Owen for an Example with the right leg ...

  • @ordohereticus3427
    @ordohereticus3427 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Right on the mark. These two had a far more intricate parallel than the much more cosmetic aspects of Sting and Taker. The problem was always about terrible WCW booking as this could’ve produced a legendary rivalry as well as ally character dynamics (when both would be face, as was the case in 1999) over the course of their respect careers. Real wasted potential.

  • @arpegio88
    @arpegio88 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I tend to favor Bret's Sharp shooter over Stings deathlock version because he makes it look more 'snug' by leaning back on it. Bret also grabs his opponents knee pad or the side of their tights for leverage. Sting tends to stoop forward while performing the hold and it doesn't appear to be hooked in as tight.

  • @TheRennDawg
    @TheRennDawg 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Both Sting and Bret Hart won their first world titles by beating Ric Flair.

    • @extremekurt
      @extremekurt 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Ric Flair is a gentleman

    • @BrandonGavin_EDC
      @BrandonGavin_EDC 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@extremekurt that’s where some wrestlers mess up IMO. Not putting other guys over. If you hold the title a ton like Flair it doesn’t matter how you lose it and they guys you out over end up getting big and it makes everyone’s Career that much better because they are involved with so many legends. Flair was awesome in that regard, not like Hogan who would never put anyone over.

    • @zlinedavid
      @zlinedavid 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Flair considered it his job to make whoever he was in the ring with look like a goddamn superstar, whether they were or not.

    • @simeonflake
      @simeonflake 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@zlinedavid That would explain why I would ever watch Flair vs. Garvin...

    • @zlinedavid
      @zlinedavid 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@simeonflake Although if you put Garvin in today’s WWE/AEW, he’d look like goddamn Ricky Steamboat.

  • @turdferguson2839
    @turdferguson2839 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This video sums up wcw's problems entirely, stories that made no sense, outside interference every match and spoiled wrestlers.

  • @burntvirtue
    @burntvirtue 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    This was my favorite era of WCW, and my 2 all-time faves. This is a fantastic video capturing all of my thoughts perfectly. Great job, as always!

  • @All_Hail_Chael
    @All_Hail_Chael 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Best wrasslin channel on youtube...easy.

  • @kodiebutter6632
    @kodiebutter6632 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This channel just doesn't miss. Best wrestling channel, and even if your not a fan the production is just top tier content

  • @Gotti17
    @Gotti17 3 ปีที่แล้ว +104

    WCW wasted the talent of Bret Hart ...

    • @PlatinumRoseLady
      @PlatinumRoseLady 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You said it.

    • @andrewmoore7927
      @andrewmoore7927 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Due to Hogan's massive ego and his 100% creative control

    • @upgrayedd3129
      @upgrayedd3129 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@andrewmoore7927 "that's not gonna work for me brother"

    • @andrewmoore7927
      @andrewmoore7927 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@upgrayedd3129 Here's the outcome of the match that will make sense to me brother

    • @Gotti17
      @Gotti17 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      So true Hogan didn't put him over in 93. As if he was gonna, Once Bret got to WCW.

  • @GutturalReef
    @GutturalReef 3 ปีที่แล้ว +79

    As far as the Sharpshooter vs. the Scorpion Death Lock: Aesthetically, Bret's looks better; Sting's (and many others who try the Sharpshooter) just looks sloppy!

    • @Kindaserious365
      @Kindaserious365 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      The rock has the worse. Sharpshooter of all time 😂

    • @michaelkeller5927
      @michaelkeller5927 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      The Rocks is the shartshooter

    • @Coyote-wm5op
      @Coyote-wm5op 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      If you’re shorter it looks better

    • @illkid86
      @illkid86 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@michaelkeller5927 sharpshitter

    • @Haplo699g
      @Haplo699g 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@Kindaserious365 The Rock's version is rough AF.

  • @razieltalos
    @razieltalos 3 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Bret's looks better, looks more like it hurts and his technical ability is far superior to Sting which helps sell it

    • @Forgemno
      @Forgemno 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Sounds like a Montreal Mark lol

    • @darkmarv8045
      @darkmarv8045 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Bret maybe was maybe more technical than Sting, but Sting was more charismatic.

  • @kennchooch9744
    @kennchooch9744 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Damnit, don't know why..... but this is one of my favorite channels.
    I always learn a little something.
    Thanks for making sports entertainment so entertaining 😊

  • @rogueprince1341
    @rogueprince1341 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I've always thought SCSA vs DDP would have been good. Both cutter type finishers that can come out of nowhere both highly over with the fans. Both world champions.

    • @curiositykilledthecat5118
      @curiositykilledthecat5118 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yeah but the stunner wins easily there. Far more influential performed and the physical move was sold with much more impact. The diamond cutter would be a better comparison to the rko

    • @Azriel1932
      @Azriel1932 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@curiositykilledthecat5118 and the RKO kinda wins the whole "outta nowhere!!" thing, at least to me

    • @floyd2386
      @floyd2386 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@Azriel1932 DDP kind of played up the whole "out of nowhere" thing too, but Johnny Ace was doing it way before either of them.

    • @Azriel1932
      @Azriel1932 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@floyd2386 100% agree. I'm just saying that Randy Orton took it and ran with it. There's been some cool RKOs over the years. And I always loved his whole pounding the mat set up too.

    • @floyd2386
      @floyd2386 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Azriel1932 My personal gripe with the RKO though is it looks almost too smooth and not as devastating. Watch some of Johnny Ace's Acecrushers from back in the day, absolutely deadly looking.

  • @josevanderlinde2404
    @josevanderlinde2404 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Did u notice that they use different leg to start their finishing move? ... Still I like the sharpshooter more. Its more ellegant.

  • @jamesbounds
    @jamesbounds 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Would have been cool to see Sting and Bret Hart be a tag team for a little while and win the tag belts.

    • @Sanguivore
      @Sanguivore 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Aww, man. That would've been neat as heck!

  • @Azriel1932
    @Azriel1932 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Seeing the notifications for your videos pop up on my phone always puts a smile on my face.

  • @jordiny3756
    @jordiny3756 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You should be a guest reader on Botchamania! Regardless keep up the great vids, so happy to see where this channel has gone. This feud was dopd

  • @kiprandom7208
    @kiprandom7208 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I still prefer the Scorpion death lock. It just sounds more cool

  • @MrElvis161
    @MrElvis161 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Sting vs HBK something I wanted see too

    • @deshawndodd7883
      @deshawndodd7883 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I WANTED TO SEE DDP VS. THE ROCK

  • @pdill900
    @pdill900 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Was just binging the few videos on your channel that I havent watched and I see this. Amazing work man, best wrestling channel on YT!

  • @nathanwagner9895
    @nathanwagner9895 3 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    sting and bret hart in their prime when they were babyfaces, were beyond just ''clean cut'' they were the definition of WHITE MEAT BABY FACE lol

    • @enmija
      @enmija 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Bret and Sting in 1992-93 were almost invincible.. both basically had less than 5 loses at that time, and those loses weren't clean. The only "clean" loses they had were Bret to the British Bulldog and Sting maybe to Vader

    • @aaronlusanko6356
      @aaronlusanko6356 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@enmija *losses.

    • @wrestlingtapes2036
      @wrestlingtapes2036 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Goats

  • @Tain950
    @Tain950 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I saw all these matches back when I was a kid. I’m extremely impressed how you remember everything that happened.

  • @randyv.2880
    @randyv.2880 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Love watching this content! Seem to learn something new in some videos too! Wrestling Bios, they can take away some wrestling, but they'll never take away OUR FREEDOM!! (Couldn't resist that one lol)

  • @mikebrady86
    @mikebrady86 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Wolfpac sting looks like the devil

    • @WhiteOutEntertainment781
      @WhiteOutEntertainment781 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      especially with the black goatee, I was thinking the same thing haha

    • @njk9091
      @njk9091 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      his coolest look even with the goatee

  • @JADIP-hl8yd
    @JADIP-hl8yd 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love your work! I really want to see you do a story on the intercontinental championship. Henning, hall, savage, honky tonk.... list is ENDLESS.

  • @brettrossi034
    @brettrossi034 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I'll be completely honest, I was always a WWF kid in the 90s. It was the only wrestling I knew. I never knew when I was a kid that WCW was a thing I was so young. Your channel though is fantastic with quality and are helping me learn more about WCW and their landscape. Thank you!

  • @richardthepastamancer6619
    @richardthepastamancer6619 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    there was also booker-t vs the rock wich both used the rock bottom/book end

    • @kevinpayton2664
      @kevinpayton2664 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The Rock Bottom is hands down better than the Book End.

    • @richardthepastamancer6619
      @richardthepastamancer6619 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kevinpayton2664 i agree, but only the wwe one, every wrestler took it very weirdly, probably to make it differ from the rock bottom. In WCW and TNA looked better without the weird back bump.

    • @kevinpayton2664
      @kevinpayton2664 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@richardthepastamancer6619 I didn't watch TNA when Booker T was there. Did he do it differently there than in WCW?

    • @richardthepastamancer6619
      @richardthepastamancer6619 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@kevinpayton2664 He did it the same way but the guy taking it wouldn't go feet all the way up and just take a normal back bump wich, in my opinion, makes it look a lot better and not like a weird kneeling choke slam like it did in wwe.

    • @slashandbones13
      @slashandbones13 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The Rock had much more dynamic energy to it.

  • @McSorleyFan33
    @McSorleyFan33 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Watching this video and other wcw related videos always reminds me how the fast the NWO went from being the most amazing revolutionary thing in wrestling to the most overrated and overexposed thing in wrestling

  • @RKO1988
    @RKO1988 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m glad you did something with this feud it was awesome

  • @dadman9799
    @dadman9799 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Vivid memories of this at 8 years old. I was even Wolfpack sting for Halloween. When he got injured at Havoc it wrecked me for a while....

    • @pierredorsey7983
      @pierredorsey7983 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thats Crazy I was crow sting for Halloween... around 8 or 9 .

  • @WrestleChop
    @WrestleChop 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thay last line gave me a chuckle. Your delivery and timing is excellent.

  • @lukebaer3099
    @lukebaer3099 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really appreciate all your videos as I am laying here on my couch with covid and quarantined for the next 11 days. Thank God I am not too sick but my prayers for anyone that is not as lucky. Cheers brother!

  • @jdthegreatone2757
    @jdthegreatone2757 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ok offically subscribed for all videos i just can't afford to miss a single video!

  • @ZeRoCooL-ht8rf
    @ZeRoCooL-ht8rf 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I could watch these videos all day, everyday, keep up the great work

  • @RHM-up5hn
    @RHM-up5hn 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    My two favorite wrestlers of all time. I watched all of these matches and the endings were so predictable. Who was going to interfere? WCW really dropped the ball here. A shame really. I really liked the backstage fight they had. I guess that is my favorite moment. Thanks for making a video on this.

  • @JamesMMcCann
    @JamesMMcCann 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    'It's Bret Hart by the way.' That made me chuckle that you said it, and I agree whole heartedly. Bret's is still the best version of that move.

  • @jamiemckell34
    @jamiemckell34 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    So good to see this amount of Wolfpac content - I had no idea!

  • @stevep4574
    @stevep4574 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Sting used it first, sorry Bret.

    • @GenosGlory
      @GenosGlory 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sting didn’t create the move. He took it from Japan Wrestling

    • @stevep4574
      @stevep4574 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@GenosGlory I meant b4 Hart used it.

    • @GenosGlory
      @GenosGlory 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@stevep4574 Yes he did use it before Bret definetly. Valid point and both did a great job.

  • @Gazzleto
    @Gazzleto 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I remember davey boy Smith using it. in a singles match against the anvil during the 80s. Back when the hearts wore blue

  • @uke5289
    @uke5289 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    At that time Bret should have still been applying that SHARPSHOOTER to austin and co in the then WWF attitude era. Still sits funny with me seeing him in the WCW

    • @Smokey1419
      @Smokey1419 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I liked Bret in WCW, but i feel like Owen would've fit more with WCW

  • @LivinhItUp
    @LivinhItUp 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Always liked how it was always a struggle for Bret to lock in the Sharpshooter but when it was time to end the match and really lock it in, he wasted no time and made it look good from start to finish.
    In the end, legacy wise, the common wrestling fan will call it the Sharpshooter over the SDL. And I don't think it was a coincidence Sting opted to go with Death Drop DDT as his finisher later in his career to make it his own.

  • @M.R.4.2.0
    @M.R.4.2.0 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I still call it scorpion death lock

    • @charliebowen5071
      @charliebowen5071 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah... sting still is in wrestling! That’s what it’s called!

  • @DigitalBath742
    @DigitalBath742 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Move vs move dream matches that never happened: Steve Austin vs Disco Inferno.

    • @E_l_l_i_e
      @E_l_l_i_e 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      🤣🤣🤣

    • @floyd2386
      @floyd2386 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      That would've been a Chart Buster. May have even been Stone Cold's Last Dance.

    • @FighterMindset2024
      @FighterMindset2024 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Didn't hogan's friend the wannabe dog the bounty hunter also used that finisher?

  • @gambit3950
    @gambit3950 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bret, sting, Kurt angle are my all time faves. Thank you so much for doing this video. I loved it!

  • @jameswarner5878
    @jameswarner5878 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    16:48 Bret's rope.
    17:42 Bret's rope.

  • @fitness65
    @fitness65 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    The matches these two had were good but the story leading to their first match was confusing as hell. All wcw could've did was create a story of who had the better finisher. With none of the bs added to it it led to confusing heel turns by Bret and just weird stuff pretty much sums up the beginning of beets first run in wcw

    • @itsyourenotyour9101
      @itsyourenotyour9101 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The beets there was, the beets there is, and the beets there ever will be. Beets Hart.

    • @bryguysays2948
      @bryguysays2948 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Beets, Bears, Battlestar Galactica!

  • @rigoventura3334
    @rigoventura3334 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sir, I like your vídeos because you are very specific with the details and professional.

  • @lazarorodriguez5161
    @lazarorodriguez5161 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank You 🙏 WrestlingBios

  • @fatcat8033
    @fatcat8033 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Nash with the backwards bandana and open check shirt trying to look all “ street “ 🤔😂

    • @zlinedavid
      @zlinedavid 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Welcome to the late ‘90s

  • @56majima72
    @56majima72 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In fact, Choshu Riki didn't come up with the Sasori Gatame/Scorpion Deathlock, it was created by his fellow worker, Masa Saito and made popular by Choshu.

  • @TheAaronetic
    @TheAaronetic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    "It's Bret Hart, by the way." - Bios Pipe Bomb

    • @Thor-Orion
      @Thor-Orion 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bret Hart is the best ever, I don’t know why that’s so controversial. His matches tell the best stories.

  • @TheFlamingPike
    @TheFlamingPike 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I remember, the day it was announced Bret Hart was coming to WCW, all I thought was that he and Sting would have a kickass feud because of the finisher move they both shared. Wasn't quite what was expected, however, much like the rest of Bret Hart's short-lived stint in WCW. :/ I don't remember if it was Bret himself who said it or if it was someone else from that era, but someone once said that "WCW had no idea what to do with Bret Hart". I think that quote sums up the whole situation pretty well.
    In my opinion, Bret added two things that made his sharpshooter stand out over the years: he executed it lower which made it look more painful and he would often hold it for a long period of time back during those years, which made it look more like torture than a pro wrestling submission move. As a matter of fact, I think the way Bret executed the sharpshooter on Stone Cold Steve Austin during their now famous match is one of the reasons why Austin became a fan favorite, because it looked damn painful and Austin just wouldn't give up. Sting however had the best turnbuckle splash ever. He usually didn't call for it beforehand and yet you could feel when he was about to do it.

  • @smarkymark5591
    @smarkymark5591 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    These types of videos are on point btw 👍🏻 10/10 🔥

  • @therattlesnake1614
    @therattlesnake1614 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another great wrestling Bio 👍

  • @DarrylGetGnarCosta
    @DarrylGetGnarCosta 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love your videos bud ..keep it up brother

  • @kennywright1021
    @kennywright1021 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Been waiting for this type of video. Thanks!!!

  • @CornyClaudyMedia
    @CornyClaudyMedia 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What kept Bret and Sting from having the 5-star "dream match" they should have had are the same factors that prevented countless WCW matches and angles from being great and/or making a lick of sense: clueless booking, incompetent match/feud build-ups, the nWo, unclean/screw-job/run-in/"Dusty" finishes, and egomaniacs "playing politics" backstage.

  • @ashleynewman3360
    @ashleynewman3360 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I used to make my little sister TAP!!!! with the sharpshooter....best bit, no rope breaks.

  • @ryanburrell4999
    @ryanburrell4999 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Solid video as always man! Keep up the great work!!

  • @JLvatron
    @JLvatron 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video! I never understood fans claiming that WCW didn’t use Bret properly.
    While he was a top star in WWF, WCW was a much bigger pool; plus he was not in the same league as Hollywood and the nWo.
    He was given a lot of glory in WCW by having the nWo welcome him to the company, being rivals with Sting, being involved in key nWo matters, plus winning the WCW belt himself.
    I found his WCW adventure to be great.

  • @sonicthehedgehog5360
    @sonicthehedgehog5360 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Two legendary wrestlers in best era of professional wrestling in the late 90s great times

  • @djaceofspades4039
    @djaceofspades4039 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I remember Adrian Adonis using the submission hold in WWF. It was called the reverse figure four at the time. This was years before Bret Hart or Sting used the hold.

  • @shelbykhan7270
    @shelbykhan7270 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This match was a dream match in every way possible!

  • @terrybrown5402
    @terrybrown5402 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Bret always crossed his right leg over the opponents left and reached down to the knee as he turned the guy over so he could sit further down. Sting always took his right leg over his opponents right leg and he could go for the knee or stay higher up the leg depending on how deep he wanted to sit. Some guys like hogan he didn't sit all the way down due to hulks back problems. Thats taking care of your opponent and working safe. But sting could absolutely sit back and have it locked just as snug as bret. Watch his matches against guys like rude and flair and youll see sting sitting all the way back just like bret. So did either man do it better? I wouldn't go that far...just different.

  • @fcove5453
    @fcove5453 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love your work bro

  • @pantherhd1
    @pantherhd1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Chris Benoit vs Bret hart was big at its time.LOL I wonder if malcom in the middle still has that clip in the start of its intro

  • @nathanwagner9895
    @nathanwagner9895 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    im sure it has been said here in the comments , but my ultimate dream match is Kurt Angle vs Bret Hart.

    • @deshawndodd7883
      @deshawndodd7883 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      HELL YEAH THAT'S A GOOD ONE

    • @nathanwagner9895
      @nathanwagner9895 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@deshawndodd7883 hell yea bro. i have actually simulated the match a few times in fire pro wrestling world... its funny cause the results each time are kurt will win, then bret will win.. its 50/50 booking done by the AI hahahaha.. imagine if bret stayed in WWE (WWF at the time obviously lol) in november of 1997... he was literally 2 years away from angles debut at the 1999 survivor series...... and even more sad... owen hart literally passed away SIX FREAKING MONTHS BEFORE KURTS DEBUT....

  • @frankrizzo7713
    @frankrizzo7713 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Bret's el dandy promo was the best lol

  • @thekurgan1580
    @thekurgan1580 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Love watching your content man 🤘

  • @xtn5378
    @xtn5378 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's almost like PPV Sunday with this channel.

  • @TheAdmac11
    @TheAdmac11 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Pretty confident in saying that this is the best wrestling youtube channel on the planet!!! 🔥🪐🌍

  • @PreacherTHC
    @PreacherTHC 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Would love to see a video about Harvey whippleman not a lot of people talk about him but he did have a considerable contribution to the wrestling organization and I have very much would like to see a wrestling bio on him if possible love your work by the way

  • @arh15101986
    @arh15101986 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I actually saw Sting vs Bret at a WCW house show in January of 1999. Sting worked as a baby face with his black and white look while Bret was heel. Sting won with a Scorpion Death Drop for a clean pin.

  • @georgethimakis4710
    @georgethimakis4710 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Ppl seen to forget about Ultimate Warrior and surfer Sting dream match alot of ppl were talking about back in the day

    • @georgethimakis4710
      @georgethimakis4710 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ChristopherJames1993 but it actually was im talking before crow sting and noone wanted a match between taker and sting till he became the crow

  • @redfire2987
    @redfire2987 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Bret Hart had a few good other matches in WCW against DDP, Booker T, Ric Flair & even Lex Luger.