6 Problems with the nWo - Wrestling Bios

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    The nWo stable and storyline during the mid 90s turned out to be one the best things about WCW progamming. The initial faction (featuring Scott Hall, Kevin Nash and Hulk Hogan) brought more eyes to World Chmapionship Wrestling and their flagship Monday Nitro television show, and over time, the New World Order completely dominated all aspects of WCW. This went beyond just what we saw on TV, the powerful members of the nWo had enough stroke to make changes backstage also.
    The nWo were seen by many within WCW as the key to winning the Monday Night Wars but looking back, the storyline also created a series of problems. From the group's expansion in such a short period of time, the multitude of different nWo groups, the fact that no finish was ever written for the nWo storyline.. the nWo turned out to be both a blessing and a curse for WCW (and even the WWF / WWE). This video looks at 6 key problems with the nWo.
    00:00 - The rise of nWo and WCW
    02:26 - Too many members
    04:22 - The failed exclusive TV Shows
    06:56 - Main event dominance
    10:41 - Too many nWo groups
    13:00 - No finish to the story
    17:07 - The WWF / WWE version of nWo
    #WCW #nWo #Wrestling
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  • @TLOWNSU
    @TLOWNSU 3 ปีที่แล้ว +407

    The 6 problems:
    1. That
    2. Doesn't
    3. Work
    4. For
    5. Me
    6. Brother

  • @FallicIdol
    @FallicIdol 3 ปีที่แล้ว +364

    There was never a payoff. Eventually, Goldberg and DDP should have rallied the rest of WCW to beat them

    • @codycooper5768
      @codycooper5768 3 ปีที่แล้ว +70

      I know it doesn't even need to be said AGAIN, but I'm gonna say it anyway.... Hogan/Sting, starcade 97.. should've been the greatest moment ever, I'm still pissed about it..

    • @ironman2326
      @ironman2326 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      My thoughts exactly

    • @seinenwax94jr9
      @seinenwax94jr9 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      A Fall Brawl War Games with Goldberg, DDP, Sting, and any 2 memorable midcarders(Jericho, Raven, Booker T, Benoit, etc) vs Hall, Nash, Hogan, Savage, and Bret with with NWO disbanding and Bischoff's career on the line would've been cooler than what we got in 97 or 98.

    • @fifedogg511
      @fifedogg511 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      The payoff was supposed to happen after the fingerpoke of doom, Goldberg was set to destroy the nWo once and for all but Goldberg decided to punch limo windows had a major injury and then the New Blood happened when n he came back from injury

    • @seinenwax94jr9
      @seinenwax94jr9 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@fifedogg511 That makes perfect sense. Even by that point, NWO wore out it's welcome.

  • @diondorsey3376
    @diondorsey3376 3 ปีที่แล้ว +453

    I’ll be 32 tomorrow and after all these years I still don’t think Sting should have ever joined The N.W.O…

    • @LaidBack--
      @LaidBack-- 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Dude... You was like 8 or 9 yrs old.. You didn't know nothing 😂

    • @diondorsey3376
      @diondorsey3376 3 ปีที่แล้ว +85

      @@LaidBack-- I know that sting was less hard when he switched from The Crow Version to the Red and Black.
      And back in the day I used to watch WCW all the time…. So what do you know…😒

    • @ComicBookGuy420
      @ComicBookGuy420 3 ปีที่แล้ว +76

      Yeah after fighting so hard against the nwo, him suddenly joining up was weird

    • @ComicBookGuy420
      @ComicBookGuy420 3 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      @@LaidBack-- as opposed to people who weren't born until 10-15 years after the fact but still pretend to know everything about it?

    • @taydafranklin7800
      @taydafranklin7800 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I fully agree!!! And Happy Birthday

  • @AV57
    @AV57 2 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    What I remember about the NWO was WCW stopped having clean matches. Every match was either a DQ with no supplemental disciple after the fact or some interference would give the win to the NWO. It got really stale really fast.

    • @kevinabraham9260
      @kevinabraham9260 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      It’s called the hulk hogan finish 🤣🤣🤣

    • @One.Zero.One101
      @One.Zero.One101 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Agreed. The main problem is the NWO never got their comeuppance. It's Writing 101, when a stable like that takes over in kayfabe and puts everybody down, the only logical resolution is the opposing faction brews their revenge spits everything back at the NWO's face. But Bischoff is too much of a fan girl and Hogan had creative control so they forgot basic storytelling.

  • @extremelyfunky5364
    @extremelyfunky5364 3 ปีที่แล้ว +301

    My dad had no clue who nWo were; so one day we were watching WCW nitro and he was like "how comes most of the wrestlers have the same theme song?"

  • @amtownsyou
    @amtownsyou 3 ปีที่แล้ว +222

    Back then even me, my grandma and my neighbour could be an nWo member

    • @keeponkeepinon1280
      @keeponkeepinon1280 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      I was born 91 and was a mini member 💯

    • @seinenwax94jr9
      @seinenwax94jr9 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      NWO were like the Wu Tang Clan of wrestling 😂😂

    • @greenkoopa
      @greenkoopa 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Did you ever get back and put some water in Buck Nasty's mama's dish?

    • @outlawrip-offartist4161
      @outlawrip-offartist4161 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      I was born in 99, and even I join the NWO.

    • @midniteryder_3-16
      @midniteryder_3-16 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Even the line of ants heading to the anthill in my park are all part of the nwo!

  • @ComicBookGuy420
    @ComicBookGuy420 3 ปีที่แล้ว +119

    By the end it was 3 factions, like 70% of the roster
    It was at the point where disco inferno was wearing a Wolfpack shirt🤣
    Just too much

  • @davidhanmer82
    @davidhanmer82 3 ปีที่แล้ว +82

    It's crazy how WCW unintentionally became a development territory for WWF by 1999/2000!

    • @Marc_Masters
      @Marc_Masters 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      facts

    • @jordcarter2359
      @jordcarter2359 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Marks

    • @mezykin
      @mezykin ปีที่แล้ว +3

      he's out of line but he's right!

    • @Reesarte
      @Reesarte ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'd argue before that, Undertaker, HHH, Austin, Foley all got a little TV time to get started

    • @mazzvidz
      @mazzvidz ปีที่แล้ว

      WCW was always a 2nd class wrestling promotion. The little bit of shine they got, were from old guys that WWF turned into stars.

  • @MrMDMPOfficial
    @MrMDMPOfficial 3 ปีที่แล้ว +187

    They killed it by having it continue so LONG. An NWO split with a well done Hall/Nash feud or a Hall/Nash turn on Hogan would've been AWESOME

    • @Thor-Orion
      @Thor-Orion 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Watch superbrawl when they split them. The fans spoke, they wanted Hall and Nash together to turn on Hogan.

    • @MrMDMPOfficial
      @MrMDMPOfficial 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@Thor-Orion definitely. That would've gave Hall/Nash a new life as villains and Hogan new life as a face

    • @dawsonbosco8217
      @dawsonbosco8217 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      On the Starrcade video, I talked with someone else in the comments about how they could have used the main event to split the nWo. With Nash no-showing the event, if Hogan were to lose cleanly to Sting, Hollywood could unleash his anger at the other members for not coming out to run interference or help him, and especially Nash for not even appearing. I'm 22, so I wasn't able to watch the Wolfpac era and I understand people liked it at the time, but they could either have gone into the Wolfpac then and there or they could have completely disbanded the nWo by having them implode.
      Furthermore, my personal opinion is that having the nWo booked as strong as they were from the start and for so long was extremely risky. It was almost like saying, "Two guys from the other wrestling company can instill fear into our entire roster and overpower everyone" which is a bizarre message to send and surprises me with how well it was received by the fans.

    • @MrMDMPOfficial
      @MrMDMPOfficial 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dawsonbosco8217 cool storyline!!!

    • @MrMDMPOfficial
      @MrMDMPOfficial 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@kevinlee9929 probably so. Either way, splitting them would've been better

  • @MattSinz
    @MattSinz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +73

    If a faction has more than 6 people it's to many, 6 gives you all your bases.
    1 The charismatic main eventer
    2 the technical grappler
    3&4 the tag team
    5 the high flyer
    6 the heavy

    • @rockk9753
      @rockk9753 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      So basically DX,
      Shawn Micheals
      HHH
      Road Dogg and Billy Gunn aka Mr. Ass
      Xpac
      Chyna

    • @brothertravis7819
      @brothertravis7819 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      It was too many damn people. Plain and simple

    • @BiggieTrismegistus
      @BiggieTrismegistus 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I think having people going after each title (world, tag team, cruiserweight, US and TV) and then a couple of guys as back-up muscle would have been the way to go. 8 guys is an intimidating, formidable group that you could present as a threat to take things over but not ridiculously huge either.

    • @Rockhound6165
      @Rockhound6165 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@BiggieTrismegistus I think Aces & Eights from TNA was a perfect example of a faction.

    • @Blackbeard0531
      @Blackbeard0531 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I disagree. I loved the ministry with the brood. That had 8. 9 if u included Paul.

  • @jonathanfornwalt4919
    @jonathanfornwalt4919 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    The biggest problem with the nWo was that it put the spotlight mostly on aged WWF talent, even though Hall and Nash had been to WCW before they got over in WWF, and looking back at it they sacrificed the rest of the roster. They had great "home grown" guys, but only really elevated DDP and Goldberg, when they had so much more talent than those 2, and Eddie Guerrero and Chris Jericho had to leave to realize their ceiling.

    • @Robman0908
      @Robman0908 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hard truth but Jericho, Guerrero and the others wouldn’t draw the way that those old guys did. They had a solid support center in WWF but those old guys and the nWo were beyond over.

  • @Larry
    @Larry 3 ปีที่แล้ว +398

    I think the whole of the WWF "New Generation" era would make for a great problematic episode.

    • @acewillingham
      @acewillingham 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      Truly would the new generation era was pretty much a struggling time for the company

    • @kenrickeason
      @kenrickeason 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Larry Bundy Jr. Introduce me to that AMAZING Mr. Big's Art of Fighting Theme (SNES version) some years ago.. And Yes! I wish he do one about the New Generation Era and The Beginning of the WCW Era after Ted Turner bought Jim Crockett Promotion out..

    • @str.77
      @str.77 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      That's like beating a dead horse. How about Great things about the New Generation?

    • @gatchywatchyentertainmentb2090
      @gatchywatchyentertainmentb2090 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@str.77 Bret.
      That's all I can think of.

    • @str.77
      @str.77 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@gatchywatchyentertainmentb2090 Well, and that's a lot. Already better than the entire nWo in my book.
      But there were other good things too. All the other Hart family members, Undertaker, Razor, Shawn (despite severe issues), Perfect (when he was around), BamBam, Luna, HeadShrinkers (before they were babyfaced), Yoko (before he became too big), Quebecers, Ted DuBiase as a manager (at least in principle) and if we include 1993 (which isn't strictly New Generation) evil Doink. And yes, I actually like Double J.

  • @Smac-fv9xc
    @Smac-fv9xc 3 ปีที่แล้ว +303

    Who are you to doubt Vincent in the nWo

    • @greenkoopa
      @greenkoopa 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      The best most original gimmick

    • @yelnaw
      @yelnaw 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Fuckin unsubcribed mate. Absurd!

    • @matthewmota9154
      @matthewmota9154 3 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      Should've been called the new Vincent order

    • @outlawrip-offartist4161
      @outlawrip-offartist4161 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      @@matthewmota9154 Vincent for life.

    • @mikebradlee
      @mikebradlee 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      That's like doubting El Dandy

  • @joekingman208
    @joekingman208 3 ปีที่แล้ว +79

    Once WCW had their Nitro logo printed on the mat in late '98 when Ultimate Warrior returned, Scott Hall was drunk, Rick Steiner calling out Chucky, and the half time set Nitro pyro went off in the middle of Bam Bam Bigalow's match is when I thought WCW was going down even before Mankind's big win.

    • @DrDoomBloom
      @DrDoomBloom 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Right there with you!

    • @joekingman208
      @joekingman208 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @goku kaioken Almost anything is better than current WWE. All those robotic promos, generic looking wrestlers, predictable segments, and commercial breaks every 5 minutes.... it's 3 hours of torture.
      2003 SmackDown! will always be my wrestling show. I was there when the ring collapsed in Orlando, FL

    • @cjvaye99
      @cjvaye99 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@joekingman208 "generic looking wrestlers" I couldn't agree more. They're getting a little better now particularly the tag team and womens division with characters, but for a long time it's been generic boots and tights and first name last name guys.

    • @ComicBookGuy420
      @ComicBookGuy420 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I'll take awkward Rick vs Titantron Chucky any day over another Reigns title win

    • @UNIT5FAN
      @UNIT5FAN 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ComicBookGuy420 Reigns is more over than Rick

  • @zemox2534
    @zemox2534 3 ปีที่แล้ว +98

    I love this new series. If possible, could you please talk about the 6 problems with HHH's reign of terror?

    • @SteRDLK
      @SteRDLK 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      Problem 1 - Minute 1 of a 20 minute promo
      Problem 2 - Minute 2 of a 20 minute promo
      Problem 3 - Minute 3 of a 20 minute promo
      ...

    • @stephonwilliams5232
      @stephonwilliams5232 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@SteRDLK can you please explain more

    • @TEN21Portraits
      @TEN21Portraits 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Everything. It was terrible!

    • @allthekingshorses7178
      @allthekingshorses7178 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Booker T at WrestleMania 19, there's an obvious one...

    • @koolkat518
      @koolkat518 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      There are no 6 problems. The only problem is that it buried deserving talent. Kane, RVD, Jericho, Booker T, Goldust, Nash

  • @thequixoticangler3364
    @thequixoticangler3364 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Okay. This is the 100th video of yours I've watched.
    You are, by a large margin, the very best wrestling historian regarding the 90s. Your pacing is frighteningly effective. Tons of info in less than 30 minutes. Feels like I watched a 2 hour documentary. Where you shine brightest is your in depth explanations of every aspect of an event that occurred.
    Spot on mate. Cheers. Please do more on Raven if you get a chance. Biggest waste of a big money character by both companies ever IMO.

  • @superrobz
    @superrobz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +246

    There are a couple of main problems for me:
    1. Far FAR to many members toward the end
    2. Too much of a good thing, like we were seeing it constantly more and more to the point where I was kind of over it
    3. Egos running rough shot
    That’s my opinion on it anyway

    • @shahzadkhan-tt9oc
      @shahzadkhan-tt9oc 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      I'm From PKISTAN.
      big wan Of OLD WRESTLING.
      you are an absolutely right.
      3 of the Main Reasons of Their DAWNFALL.

    • @savagedarksider5934
      @savagedarksider5934 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@shahzadkhan-tt9oc To be fair: WCW was probably gonna to go out of business anyway due to AOL/TimeWarmer simply did not want it and plus WWF could do things WCW couldn't do under Turner

    • @Makainternational
      @Makainternational 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Hulk Hogan: So what ya gonna do when hulk hogan and his huge EGO runs wild on you........
      Me: Stop watching, turn over to RAW and watch WCW fold.

    • @njoydajourney
      @njoydajourney 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I think the members were just mismanaged. They put too many members high on the pedestal. For what its worth Hogan should have been using a new finisher or being just a manager to an up and coming potential main eventer like the Giant or Scott Norton.

    • @lexkanyima2195
      @lexkanyima2195 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@njoydajourney you can't say that NWO was over the top

  • @roryslaine7896
    @roryslaine7896 3 ปีที่แล้ว +70

    Definitely mishandled in terms of story but damn, the nWo theme music was the best.

    • @seinenwax94jr9
      @seinenwax94jr9 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Those "NEW-NEW-NEW Wolrd Order 4 4 LIFE!!" watermarks were ahead of the curve before hip-hop made those things popular lol

    • @96bread
      @96bread 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@seinenwax94jr9 underrated comment ^

    • @greenkoopa
      @greenkoopa 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Not as good as Right to Censor

    • @kenrickeason
      @kenrickeason 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hell Yeah! All their theme were and still is.. Those themes are up there with Stone Cold Steve Austin's Theme..

    • @kenrickeason
      @kenrickeason 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@greenkoopa LOL!!! That sh_t was annoying as hell but that was the point right.. and it did it's job.. Steve Richards was so damn annoying as a chicken sh_t heel but it worked perfectly...

  • @dz7172
    @dz7172 3 ปีที่แล้ว +81

    You forgot the seventh mistake: forgetting to “look at the adjective”

    • @Drummer_Jeff83
      @Drummer_Jeff83 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      "PLAY..." 🤣🤣

    • @adzbeck7681
      @adzbeck7681 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      You mean Adjetive 🤣

    • @kenrickeason
      @kenrickeason 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Even as a kid that bothered me.. I wasn't a scholar in school but I know the difference between a verb and an adjective..

    • @YoungRiaz
      @YoungRiaz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      One positive nwo inspired the bullet club and the elite

  • @phreakzilla8514
    @phreakzilla8514 3 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    Scott Hall has one of the best Stunner sells of all time. Never get tired of seeing it.

    • @AVENUENIGHTS
      @AVENUENIGHTS 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Him and The Rock! Bret Hart had a good one too. Just went completely stiff. Almost as if Austin broke his jaw.

    • @reddhead2948
      @reddhead2948 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@AVENUENIGHTS the rocks sucked unless you are into fish flopping out of water

    • @0125DJ1989
      @0125DJ1989 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@reddhead2948 I admit The Rock oversells.

    • @0125DJ1989
      @0125DJ1989 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      What about Shane McMahon? I like Shane’s.

    • @baileyslife3469
      @baileyslife3469 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Him and the rock , but the rock on I’m talking about was after a show , he took two and the second one he went flying lmao

  • @JayCord00
    @JayCord00 3 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    As a young teen in the 90s WCW was so awesome with the Cruiserweight and after that Nwo was great (sure with problems but) great times to be a fan .

    • @funkyweapon1981
      @funkyweapon1981 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      In high school, we wre sent home for wearing nWo and DX shirts, because the faculty thought they were gang related.

    • @karenault6273
      @karenault6273 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Hell yeah brother I grew up glued to the TV every Monday night flipping back and forth it was sweet now days ain't worth watching what so ever

    • @funkyweapon1981
      @funkyweapon1981 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@karenault6273 I did that too!

  • @xtn5378
    @xtn5378 3 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    Wrestling Bios on Sundays is just too sweeeeet!

  • @tuntunn8063
    @tuntunn8063 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I always loved that WCW original Nitro set. Very nostalgic.

  • @seanhallahan9142
    @seanhallahan9142 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Sting vs NWO and Stone Cold vs Vince may never be matched in terms of absolute brilliance. You could simply never miss it. The amount of excitement I had as a kid when Sting appeared or Stone Colds music hit has never been matched. Maybe Edge return was close.

  • @nachiketdaithankar4405
    @nachiketdaithankar4405 3 ปีที่แล้ว +83

    The Rock making fun of all 3 members was Rock at his comedic promo best😎

    • @AnthonyAnalog
      @AnthonyAnalog 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      The semi horn toot 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

    • @detailsmatter.
      @detailsmatter. 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      😂😂😂😂

    • @youngbainthin5193
      @youngbainthin5193 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You! Chico!

    • @fergalstackstreams
      @fergalstackstreams 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      The ultimate irony being Nash, the guy who buried everyone in WCW, bitching about the Rock burying him in promos.

  • @vannag2162
    @vannag2162 3 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    Loving the new “Problems” mini series within the channel. 💙

  • @johndoe603
    @johndoe603 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    The thing about there being too many members. It made sense considering that their gimmick was to be more than just another faction but an invading force trying to take over, with faces and heels on the WCW side in unison against them. I know you mentioned that some of the more "questionable choices" were probably made with the nWo show in mind, but regardless of that show not pulling the ratings they had hoped for, I do at least see where they were going from the storyline perspective. They were trying to appear to be something more than just another WCW stable, at that time. That was one of the major differences of the whole nWo thing.
    I wouldn't have had as much of an issue with the "split" and the "Wolfpac" if they had done it differently. They fired Syxx, broke up Hall and Nash, and put people like Lex Luger in it (only because he was a big name), whose character really just didn't belong or fit the intended group vibe.
    The glass ceiling for younger talent was very annoying at the time, though. I don't blame the ones who left for the WWE and what was greener pastures back then.

    • @MrSinister718
      @MrSinister718 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Exactly. It's almost like people forget they were masquerading as their own promotion, looking like the old WWF. It fooled the marks, and confused these smarks

  • @creepyinstigator
    @creepyinstigator 3 ปีที่แล้ว +85

    i lost interest when there were no clean finishes, and every thing was interference by the NWO. it seemed like a waste after the impact of the hogan heal turn.

    • @jpbart1390
      @jpbart1390 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      it did get stupid & that's why i eventually turned off.

    • @AV57
      @AV57 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      What, you didn’t like NWO breaking up every match on the card to prove how badass they were?

    • @jpbart1390
      @jpbart1390 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@AV57 i got annoyed with it after a while, myself.

    • @bdr113080
      @bdr113080 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They were clean finishes it’s just no one likes to talk about it anymore. Hogan loss clean to piper and Goldberg which is something he had never done in WWF. Kevin Nash, Scott Hall and Syxx Lost the Slamboree main event to piper, flair and Kevin Green cleanly. And those three the three Kliq Members lost more PPV matches then they won.

    • @creepyinstigator
      @creepyinstigator 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bdr113080 it happened more often than it did not for me to loose interest, especially towards the decline of the company.

  • @icetray2727
    @icetray2727 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    The nWo should’ve ended either when Sting won the title at Starrcade or when Goldberg won the title on Nitro.

    • @chozahfearless7524
      @chozahfearless7524 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I feel like the Wolfpack should have been it’s own stable as opposed to an extension of the nwo it should have been wcw’s answer to dx

    • @wilnerolivier7971
      @wilnerolivier7971 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Damien Jones HBK, HHH, X-Pac, Hall & Nash were members of the Kilq!!

    • @jpbart1390
      @jpbart1390 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@chozahfearless7524 dx was practically the lovechild of nwo & raven's flock. silly idea in my opinion.

    • @jpbart1390
      @jpbart1390 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@fromtexas2734 hogan was already a has been by then. goldberg never really grabbed me. not much of a wrestler, barely more than just a brute.

    • @chozahfearless7524
      @chozahfearless7524 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jpbart1390 I definitely don’t see that but ok

  • @guillermosierracuellar9812
    @guillermosierracuellar9812 3 ปีที่แล้ว +107

    WCW heel wrestler or jobber: Can I join the NWO
    NWO: yes anyone can join

    • @funkyweapon1981
      @funkyweapon1981 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      "My mom is in the nWo!" used to be a joke in high school.

    • @attiepollard7847
      @attiepollard7847 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It should have been at least 10 members with 7 members with all the belts with buff bagwell, Virgil and the other two no names being a comedy relief stooges. That should have been your NWO.

    • @Rob_Thorsman
      @Rob_Thorsman 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ...except Ed Leslie.

    • @icharneco29
      @icharneco29 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@attiepollard7847
      Heavyweight Champion= Hogan
      US Champion= Scott Steiner
      TV Champion- Curt Hennig
      Tag Champions= Hall and Nash
      Cruiserweight Champion= Syxx
      Muscle/Fodder = Norton , Adams ,Konan
      Management = Rude and DiBiase that's it

    • @attiepollard7847
      @attiepollard7847 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@icharneco29 lol we're Vincent at

  • @michaelboyer7253
    @michaelboyer7253 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Episode ideas for series:
    1. The Kliq
    2. North American territory era
    3. TNA
    4. Vince Russo booking
    5. NXT
    6. WWE Authority factions
    7. McMahon vs McMahon storylines
    8. WWF Golden Age
    9. WWF Attitude era
    10. Hardcore wrestling
    11. WWE 2K video games
    12. Modern WWE creative
    13. Modern WWE censorship of Archive material
    14. Kayfabe
    15. Pre Modern era women’s wrestling
    16. Modern WWE Scripted promos
    17. Dungeon of Doom
    18. WCW (88-93)
    19. WCW Thunder
    20. WWF in 1995

  • @32ekoc
    @32ekoc 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    The number 1 real problem, Hulk Hogan's ego... also Company Killer's very ironic

    • @lexkanyima2195
      @lexkanyima2195 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Kliq

    • @mdot100
      @mdot100 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Bischoff kept kissing Hogan's ass when he should've told him to sit down and STFU!! Remember he was getting booed weekly before he turned heel! He should've been grateful that he had a second life with the NWO turn, instead his ego got even bigger and he destroyed the locker room with his antics!

  • @drjohnsmith5282
    @drjohnsmith5282 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    These Six Problems videos are great, brother. Real in-depth analysis and attention to detail. A series l for one would love to see continue. You truly are the best wrestling TH-cam channel, brother. Please keep it up

  • @E_l_l_i_e
    @E_l_l_i_e 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    7. Glacier was not the third man.

  • @LongLiveRockAnRoll
    @LongLiveRockAnRoll 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Knowing wrestling bios, the fact they let Ed Leslie in at one point.

    • @lordcolinb
      @lordcolinb 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Of course

    • @jacobcarr5647
      @jacobcarr5647 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Come on man bootyman equals booties in seats. That's common knowledge lol

  • @superquokka
    @superquokka 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    The storytelling could be so incoherent for WCW in those days. So many Nitros would just end in complete chaos. Alliances would change constantly to the point of being meaningless. Yet it still felt like you were on the verge of seeing something amazing. But the signature main event moment never came.

  • @MrFredson91
    @MrFredson91 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Yes! Our prayers have been heard! Lol keep making more of your 6 problems series

  • @HereForAStorm
    @HereForAStorm 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    19:23 imagine that kind of shot being shown of tv today lmao

    • @AceGoodheart
      @AceGoodheart 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lol, send in the FBI

  • @MarveltheCross316
    @MarveltheCross316 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    The original NWO faction should have ended at Starcade 1997 when Sting won the title. I would have had the NWO come back as a new faction in the form of the Wolfpack a few months later and have Sting as the heel leader of the group

    • @rayvenkman2087
      @rayvenkman2087 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They should have check in on Sting, had him be better prepared and introduce Bret as an unexpected ally from the outside whom foils a run-in attempt. Plus making Hogan to do the J.O.B cleanly.

  • @Simon2Dope
    @Simon2Dope 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I would like to see a Bio/Documentation about the Million Dollar Corporation. Or about King of the Ring 1995 and why it was such a booking disaster. Or about Miss Elisabeths time in WCW, when she was there mostly as a heel valet after all those WWF babyface years. Your work is fantastic. I watch your channel everyday.

  • @eveningstar4543
    @eveningstar4543 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    DDP was friends with Scott Hall and Kevin Nash and Biscoff that's how DDP got his spot. DDP and Gb were both insanely popular with the casual audience.

  • @WarhawkBeyond2040
    @WarhawkBeyond2040 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Another fantastic video as always 👏
    Keep up the good work 👍
    I'd love to see a video about the problems with the Corporate Ministry

    • @derrickhaggard
      @derrickhaggard 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I never got into the Corporate Ministry. I liked the Ministry of Darkness it was a awesome heel faction, but after that reveal and the formation of the Corporate Ministry I lost all interest and hype for the faction.

    • @WarhawkBeyond2040
      @WarhawkBeyond2040 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@derrickhaggard me either, I definitely loved the Ministry of Darkness much more and didn't like it when they merged with the Corporation to become the Corporate Ministry as I felt it completely murdered all of Undertaker and his faction's mystique.

    • @jpbart1390
      @jpbart1390 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@derrickhaggard when were they? i never heard of them. must've been within the past 20 years. i gave up on wrestling in '99.

    • @chucksballin285
      @chucksballin285 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jpbart1390 around 98 or 99

  • @BigSparky1316
    @BigSparky1316 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Im 31 years old and watching Nitro from 96-98 it was so awesome seeing the Wolf Pack Black and Red NWO form. Sting was always my favorite in WCW and i thoughts that Red and Black paint looked so epic.

  • @sofakingonmynuts1438
    @sofakingonmynuts1438 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    We absolutely loved it, and i was torn between the two franchise, the factions, the brilliant wrestles, production, it was great.

  • @dj_lightbulbs
    @dj_lightbulbs 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hope this 6 problems with series is one to stay because its definitely entertaining

  • @danielproctor5237
    @danielproctor5237 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I would love to see a video about ravens flock or even the four horseman. You're the best at what you do and I'm sure I'll enjoy whatever you decide to cover next!

  • @axeoseilez3207
    @axeoseilez3207 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Good analysis you did major research just as expected. You are one of if not the best wrestling historians on youtube. Every upload helps me learn about the business I love.

  • @PaulRizzo
    @PaulRizzo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nothing will ever touch WCW 96-99. Just the best.

  • @dwaynegreene152
    @dwaynegreene152 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    #7 They didnt recruit El Dandy. Hes a great technician, a high flyer of the highest magnitude, and to top it all off, hes a jam up guy.

    • @landeny65
      @landeny65 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Indeed. They doubted el Dandy.

    • @dwaynegreene152
      @dwaynegreene152 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Who were they to doubt El Dandy?

  • @MrBeardsley
    @MrBeardsley 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Another problem with the nWo that occurred to me while watching this, namely their lack of cruiserweights and younger talent. They had Waltman and Konnan (at least when they weren’t injured or no-showing), but for the most part the faction was full of midcarders either past their primes or that worked more traditional “rasslin” styles. Imagine how differently they would’ve been perceived if they had guys like Guerrero or Jericho in the mix.

  • @kylealexander1514
    @kylealexander1514 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Now this is the sort of content I love to see as 'New' on TH-cam. Great video Wrestling Bios, thank you!

  • @lalomontoyajr.9282
    @lalomontoyajr.9282 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love this channel. The best wrestling channel on TH-cam! Talks good information, smart, entertaining and very respectful to the sport and to the wrestlers who competed in it.

  • @operatorhoot470
    @operatorhoot470 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    The amount of times WWE brought back DX only to fizzle out has got to be similar

  • @yodon6867
    @yodon6867 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    You need to do one about WCW never build up younger wrestlers

    • @sithmaster4305
      @sithmaster4305 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't WCW have people like AJ Styles, and James Storm as jobbers? Shame they didn't recognize talent that would've made them last.

    • @SteRDLK
      @SteRDLK 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@sithmaster4305 Not sure if you're criticising WCW here, but AJ Styles was only in his early 20's at that point. It'd be like criticising WWE for having Jeff Hardy as a jobber in his early career.

    • @yodon6867
      @yodon6867 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They did have AJ

    • @MrMuaythai84
      @MrMuaythai84 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@SteRDLK AJ style sucks look like a stupid high school jocky

  • @Jk201
    @Jk201 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love your content man. Especially the reliving the wars . I didn’t have cable growing up so I had to get my info via second hand by friends and magazines when we would go grocery shopping. Just signed up for the patreon, I respect you booker man ! Much love

  • @christophernicholson20
    @christophernicholson20 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Your next video should be "the 6 problems of Triple h's championship reign of terror and burying talent

  • @dbszady
    @dbszady 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I'd like to see a video on the Wyatt Family. So much potential and a great idea that seemed to always be thrown off to the side when WWE needed to push someone else

  • @downwithputinsaveukraine1313
    @downwithputinsaveukraine1313 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    If they kept it down to a reasonable number of members and had a payoff with the heels eventually losing, it'd have worked. But everyone got beaten up by then and simply joined them the next week. B/c the group was so big, they sucked up all the oxygen in the room and cost a lot of guys chances. Also, Crispen Wah.

  • @PandoraZBoX1
    @PandoraZBoX1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for all your hard work every time you pop up with a new episode I watch it,thanks again

  • @richardhalligan7900
    @richardhalligan7900 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    @wrestlingbios What I love about your channel is that you get right to the point, unlike channels like What Culture which spends more time trying to be funny with dumb jokes than getting on with the topic.
    God bless you sir with great content, tone, pacing, and detailed programing.

  • @kingkosher6231
    @kingkosher6231 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Well since you did videos for Raven in ECW, WCW and WWF you should do his TNA/Impact career.
    The Career Of Kurt Angle would be incredible as well.

  • @undertakerfan0658
    @undertakerfan0658 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I love the ministry of darkness and I’ve known some of their big problems too, I think a ministry problems video would be really interesting

  • @smarkymark5591
    @smarkymark5591 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Loving the fact your creating diff types of videos... 10/10.... Videos like this are well interesting to me, keep it up 👊

  • @tayocham1
    @tayocham1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I would love to see a video about the Fabulous Freebirds, the Freebird Rule and teams and factions that have evoked said Rule through the years.
    Keep up the good work!

  • @roccotheman4154
    @roccotheman4154 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    NWO was perfect at first, but for me personally it got played out in early 97

    • @lexkanyima2195
      @lexkanyima2195 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Played out in early 97 ? They had just on a roll

  • @bigpoppajersh
    @bigpoppajersh 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    A black and blue nWo was planned with savage as its head. It was gonna be nWo madness with savage,Sid,scott steiner and the other members of team madness from 1999 but it never materialized.

    • @gqsmoove87
      @gqsmoove87 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Where can I find this information at

  • @ssexton
    @ssexton 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Been keeping up with your videos for a while. This may be my favorite. Great work.

  • @scottmay2401
    @scottmay2401 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I would like to see a segment on the LWO. While brief, I always thought it was a interesting angle. Great video as always, thank for your time!

  • @danielm9678
    @danielm9678 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Egomania running wild, brother!

  • @GHOST91141
    @GHOST91141 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Everything was good until they start letting any and everybody into the group

    • @mageside
      @mageside 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They just saw the future and took a cue from Finn Balor's Balor Club is for everyone, though Balor meant that in a spirtual sort of way to refer to his fan club and those associated with The Bullet Club, I think nWo took that the wrong and meant that all the boys SHOULD be included haha

    • @mageside
      @mageside 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      They just saw the future and took a cue from Finn Balor's Balor Club is for everyone, though Balor meant that in a spirtual sort of way to refer to his fan club and those associated with The Bullet Club, I think nWo took that the wrong and meant that all the boys SHOULD be included haha

    • @RetroHabit82
      @RetroHabit82 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It should have stayed ex WWF guys only

    • @Roflcrabs
      @Roflcrabs 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think Hogan, Nash, Hall, Steiner, Konan, Bagwell an Norton should have been it. Bagwell deserved a better push imo and Norton could have been like an enforcer type like Arn Anderson. Syxx would have been cool but he fit better in DX.

    • @adrianshappymoments9343
      @adrianshappymoments9343 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You mean to tell me Ed Leslie and Vincent weren't the backbone of the NWO?

  • @terryeubanks8797
    @terryeubanks8797 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another fantastic video. I'd love to see one about the late-90s WWF faction "The Oddities". I was always really interested by them, but they had a pretty short run overall.

  • @49baybridge
    @49baybridge 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    We are all truely waiting for u to do the highly anticipated video on the one any only, GILBERG

  • @sethkaplan
    @sethkaplan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Nwo Saturday night 🤪🤪

  • @Carnage84587
    @Carnage84587 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I remember, when I was a kid, really digging the nWo at first. But eventually my brother and I were captivated by the antics happening on WWF - just thought the characters were more entertaining. I remember tuning into WCW occasionally after awhile and just being so confused...seemed like everyone was in nWo, then there was the Wolf Pac and just...yeah, a mess.

  • @travisford6663
    @travisford6663 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome video keep them coming!

  • @largol33t1
    @largol33t1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you for making this video. You stated precisely why the NWO may have been a great idea but also shot itself in the foot. This was a well made and well researched video.

  • @user-hv3wi7cf8i
    @user-hv3wi7cf8i 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Only 6?

  • @calvuswom8603
    @calvuswom8603 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    With Evolution being mentioned, is a video about Triple Hs so called "Reign of Terror" possible?

  • @charliebuckett4753
    @charliebuckett4753 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your videos are ridiculously entertaing...love em bro...keep it up

  • @theman.4692
    @theman.4692 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m so glad I came back to this channel

  • @blacknapalm2131
    @blacknapalm2131 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Can anyone remember actually seeing a 'Fake Sting' match? He must have had the cushiest job in all of wrestling, he just stood around in the background and occasionally took a Scorpion Death Drop!

    • @jb888888888
      @jb888888888 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      WCW era Lanny Poffo had the cushiest job.

    • @Rando1975
      @Rando1975 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      He did wrestle pretty regularly in New Japan at the time, but I can't actually remember any match he wrestled in WCW.

  • @TheRevengeSociety
    @TheRevengeSociety 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Big ups wrestlingbios

  • @mikehoward4546
    @mikehoward4546 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I am less than 5 seconds in and already dropped the like. Thanks for ALWAYS bringing great content.

  • @joehunter7936
    @joehunter7936 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I really hope this channel makes a video about Ernest "The Cat" Miller sometime in the near future, that would be awesome. 👏🏽🍿💪🏾

  • @danielnerdal
    @danielnerdal 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    1. Glacier wasn't the third man.
    2. Glacier wasn't the fourth man.
    3. Glacier wasn't the fifth man
    and so on

  • @AnthonyAnalog
    @AnthonyAnalog 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    There's a timeline where Scott Hall was the main player of the nWo, Sting beats Hogan clean at Starrcade, and WCW won the Monday Might Wars.

    • @NitroNEXT
      @NitroNEXT 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not likely. Hall wasn't the type to politic his way into being the top guy, Nash was but without Hogan they wouldn't have made such an impact. The AOL-Time Warner merger meant WCW was on an inevitable death clock no matter if they won the war or not. The executives wanted wrestling gone.

    • @lexkanyima2195
      @lexkanyima2195 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@NitroNEXT then why it's confusion ?

  • @CommodoreFloopjack78
    @CommodoreFloopjack78 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I miss the nWo Wolfpac. When they managed to get Sting on board, I just flipped out. Best period of pro wrestling EVER.

  • @steelcurtain187
    @steelcurtain187 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing work as usual

  • @Tom_TheDon
    @Tom_TheDon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    They were good for 6 months until everyman and his dog became a member

  • @adielrrosas1980
    @adielrrosas1980 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    How bout “6 problems with modern wrestling” I’ll be interesting to see your take on it

    • @PaulybiGGballZ0820
      @PaulybiGGballZ0820 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wtf watches wrestling these days? I know I dont..garbage

    • @Rayuzx
      @Rayuzx 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      1-3 WWE is too clean
      2-6 AEW is too goody

    • @shermhart7617
      @shermhart7617 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Aew is best wreslting ever

  • @johanfokkinga7061
    @johanfokkinga7061 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Imagine the PPV they buys they could have in a "Winner takes all match" Like the WWF's 2001 Survivor Series.
    WCW vs NWO During a whole PPV and in the end it is a tie, With Nash Hall and Hogan vs Sting , Macho Man and Goldberg/Luger in the main event for the final match.
    End it in the same match where it started.

  • @robchuk4136
    @robchuk4136 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The initial nWo invasion is my favorite wrestling storyline of all time. I didn't even mind when all the people were joining because it reminded me of a virus or an outbreak, lol (I'm a zombie movie fan), and I quite enjoyed how the announcers would get paranoid, and freak about who might be next! But its a great point about ending the story (so important!) and how they set up things perfectly for Sting to do it going into Starcade '97.
    As for if nWo dies we wouldn't get the Wolf Pack, I think they could have still done it. Just after a break for a while. Hell, they probably would have been even more over if the Wolfpack was nWo's big resurrection- not unlike DX 2.0.

  • @bobmonk64
    @bobmonk64 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Where can I get a longer version of the intro NWO remix?!

  • @dandjsong6487
    @dandjsong6487 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I always thought Ed Leslie as The Disciple was his best gimmick throughout his career

    • @funkyweapon1981
      @funkyweapon1981 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I always liked The Zodiac better. Yes...No...Yes!

  • @dawsonbosco8217
    @dawsonbosco8217 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Something I feel would be an interesting video down the line, possibly at the end of Reliving the War: using Glacier as a case study/omen for why WCW fell apart. Convoluted storylines (Blood Runs Cold), holding onto stuff for too long (the huge delay in Glacier's debut), failing to fulfill announced cards/good booking (Glacier was announced to debut in July and subsequently did not), and major funding issues (Glacier's entrance and attire being ridiculously expensive for a midcard guy).

  • @CharmCityGamer
    @CharmCityGamer 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The nWo was special, my dad before he died loved them, we loved them together. Thanks for this and reminding me of the good times I had with him brother!

  • @cerebusrex-u1721
    @cerebusrex-u1721 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Scott hasll was my all time favorite in the 90's as Razor Ramon and Kevin Nash was quite articulate for a big guy which made his mic moments hysterical, but when I seen them one night on WCW before they announced their 3rd member so I hung onto watching it to see but I was hooked after it was Hogan. Thus my NWO 4Life journey began and had me glued to the TV every Monday night for 4hrs (6 when they extended the show by an hr).
    One of the best parts of NWO before they got too big (which I agree, when they where at 24 members I was like "UUGGGGHHH!!! WAY too many!") was having the crooked ref in their corner with slow counts for NWO members pinned and the ref fighting another ref for their job. That was a great angle.
    I also wish they would have kept it to 7 working guys- Hogan, Hall, Nash, 6pac, Giant, Norton, and Bagwell with Trillionaire Ted as the manager w/Virgil.
    I would have used the Giant as Heavyweight Champ, Hall/Nash tag champs, 6Pac Cruiser-weight champ, with Norton/Bagwell as intercontinental champs (one or the other) but also a back-up to the tag titles. Holding all the gold and using grimy tactics to keep it
    With Hogan I would have had Trillionaire Ted DiBiassi make a (fake) solid gold NWO Champion belt like he did with his WWF run, The Million Dollar Belt! Only in this case a twice yearly match for it would take place to see who would run NWO for those 6 months
    I dunno, All I know is NWO 4LIFE! And i'm blazed....

  • @petegorman9547
    @petegorman9547 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Wrestling Bio’s is a absolute legend
    Another tremendous video just like the rest of them
    Wrestling Bio’s is my number 1 TH-cam channel now & the timing could not be better
    You are providing nostalgia for people like me and also in crazy world these days this channel provides a much needed escape from the day to day headaches
    I love you Wrestling Bio ❤️

  • @perfmr2
    @perfmr2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Whether a WWF or WCW guy, 1988-2004 was the greatest time for wrestling fans

  • @peartreeproductions77
    @peartreeproductions77 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    That was great, thank you as ever !