Wow… the best explanation I’ve seen yet. I have been gun shy to convert my Vanstaal reels over to this configuration. I will have to try it myself on someone else’s reel first.
In the 1970's i bought a Crack 300 reel which was big and learning from the pros i was told to remove the bail for better control and by using the trigger finger and only the trigger finger it made it easier to remount the line on the line roller. After so many years it just becomes second nature as for the bail it's just not needed. Peace.
@@anglersbureau i just bought this reel today in black. Cant wait to use it, i've always fished with a bail. thanks for the video. i'm suscribing to your channel. Cheers.
Thanks, I like this video you made its the one i was looking for and needed. I have selected 'subscribe' in accordance with fishing regulation 1- 2 paragraph 3 specifically states, "credit shall be given to good fishing information where credit is do"
Arrr I shouted “nooo!” and cringed when your submerged your reel. There was no need to subject us to such horror, we would have believed you! 😅 Great video, I did wonder how it worked without a bail, although the waterproofing and longevity are still the most attractive features for me. Maybe I will have to try one out.
Ha! Sorry! But yes, this thing is like the Toyota Landcruiser of the fishing reel world, just highly dependable. Van Staal has some bailed models (that can be converted to bailess too). Thanks for your comment.
I was curious about this thanks! Looks cool I can see the draw. I just dont get why theres so few reels with the option and the few like the Van Staal are so expensive!
@@anglersbureau ok is just that nearly every review of the VS series says the drag is sticky, maybe that is just on the larger models under more load ..
@@ShorrockPaul Maybe. Not something I've noticed on this reel. It's around ten years old and well run in, and any stickiness wasn't something I noticed when it was new either. The main thing I had to get used to was the stiffness of the handle. It's not that it isn't easy to wind, it's just that I was used to Japanese reels with multiple bearings with a handle that would spin multiple times with minimal effort.
Great Demo, it seems like a regression from having a bail, though...? other than the fact that there is less to screw up when your buddy steps on your reel, seems like a gust of wind on a slack line might be cause for some frustration.
What happens if a big fish hits on the splash down and takes off before you can use your finger to get the line back on the roller? Isn’t there a risk to getting injured by the running line on a big fish without the bail available to slam down in an emergency?
I can see how that might be a theoretical possibility. Not happened to me yet - the times I've had instantaneous hits (e.g. using a popper) the line is already on the roller. It's become such an automatic thing that I think the line is back on the roller the instant before splash down. Good point though.
I was about to ask the exact same thing. This happens with me all the time, mostly bonitos like to strike on the drop if they're in a frenzy. I have the exact same concern and now more research is needed before I order one.
Love your set up, specifically the rod. I have an 11 Ft Daiwa Whisker which I use for Bass fishing. Sadly it’s a 3 piece rod; I really like the concept of 6 or 7 piece rod designed for travelling.
Thanks. The rod is a beauty and I've always had a soft spot for the Hardy Smugglers, and travel rods in general, not so much for actual travel but just being able to carry everything in a backpack with hands completely free.
It's a good point, one that others have made here too. It's never happened to me is all I can say, the line is on the roller a few fractions of a second before the lure has actually hit the water.
Also, you should always hold your reel in between your pinky and fourth finger for better line and casting control with your index finger each time you cast.
It's too bad more companies aren't offering a variety of bailess spinning reels, especially for freshwater fishing. Yeah, it's a little more work, but the design is much better overall.
Great video. Now I'm back in Van Staal mode!!! Just when I think I'm out, they pull me back in! Raymondo.
Thanks a lot, it's funny how automatic things become with this system to the point you barely notice.
There are much less expensive bailess reels than the nearly $1,000 Van Staal.
Excellent video with a well detailed step-by-step explanation of the entire process.
Thanks very much, appreciate the feedback.
Thanks that was a great video, very clear instructions on how to use that type of reel.
thanks for that, I had a few hours to wait for the tide so thought I'd film this demonstration.
Wow… the best explanation I’ve seen yet. I have been gun shy to convert my Vanstaal reels over to this configuration. I will have to try it myself on someone else’s reel first.
Thank you! Hope you get to try it out soon.
In the 1970's i bought a Crack 300 reel which was big and learning from the pros i was told to remove the bail for better control and by using the trigger finger and only the trigger finger it made it easier to remount the line on the line roller. After so many years it just becomes second nature as for the bail it's just not needed. Peace.
Interesting, thanks for the comment. I'm tempted to try the newer Van Staals, apparently they've improved the line lay compared to this older model.
@@anglersbureau i just bought this reel today in black. Cant wait to use it, i've always fished with a bail. thanks for the video. i'm suscribing to your channel. Cheers.
Once you go bailless, you never go back. Nice video, bud. I just subscribed to your channel. Keep up the good work.
Thanks very much!
van staal makes the best reels for salt water. hands down.
Excellent video !
Thanks!
Thanks, I like this video you made its the one i was looking for and needed. I have selected 'subscribe' in accordance with fishing regulation 1- 2 paragraph 3 specifically states, "credit shall be given to good fishing information where credit is do"
Thanking you kindly Sir!
Arrr I shouted “nooo!” and cringed when your submerged your reel. There was no need to subject us to such horror, we would have believed you! 😅
Great video, I did wonder how it worked without a bail, although the waterproofing and longevity are still the most attractive features for me. Maybe I will have to try one out.
Ha! Sorry! But yes, this thing is like the Toyota Landcruiser of the fishing reel world, just highly dependable. Van Staal has some bailed models (that can be converted to bailess too). Thanks for your comment.
I was curious about this thanks! Looks cool I can see the draw. I just dont get why theres so few reels with the option and the few like the Van Staal are so expensive!
This is brilliant
Great video, now i understand how it is done. one question on the reel. how do you find the drag on the VS series ?
I've no issues with the drag to report, easy to adjust and makes a satisfying sound. Seems to be pretty powerful too.
@@anglersbureau ok is just that nearly every review of the VS series says the drag is sticky, maybe that is just on the larger models under more load ..
@@ShorrockPaul Maybe. Not something I've noticed on this reel. It's around ten years old and well run in, and any stickiness wasn't something I noticed when it was new either. The main thing I had to get used to was the stiffness of the handle. It's not that it isn't easy to wind, it's just that I was used to Japanese reels with multiple bearings with a handle that would spin multiple times with minimal effort.
Great Demo, it seems like a regression from having a bail, though...? other than the fact that there is less to screw up when your buddy steps on your reel, seems like a gust of wind on a slack line might be cause for some frustration.
What happens if a big fish hits on the splash down and takes off before you can use your finger to get the line back on the roller? Isn’t there a risk to getting injured by the running line on a big fish without the bail available to slam down in an emergency?
I can see how that might be a theoretical possibility. Not happened to me yet - the times I've had instantaneous hits (e.g. using a popper) the line is already on the roller. It's become such an automatic thing that I think the line is back on the roller the instant before splash down. Good point though.
I was about to ask the exact same thing. This happens with me all the time, mostly bonitos like to strike on the drop if they're in a frenzy. I have the exact same concern and now more research is needed before I order one.
@@samerbouez yeah, especially when the jig is sinking...
I wish I had that problem. 😂😂
Great I understand how to pick up the line how to get it off the reel. How do you get it back on the reel when you catch a fish??
You generally put t back on the reel as soon as the lure lands, at which point you're unlikely to already have caught a fish.
Love your set up, specifically the rod. I have an 11 Ft Daiwa Whisker which I use for Bass fishing. Sadly it’s a 3 piece rod; I really like the concept of 6 or 7 piece rod designed for travelling.
Thanks. The rod is a beauty and I've always had a soft spot for the Hardy Smugglers, and travel rods in general, not so much for actual travel but just being able to carry everything in a backpack with hands completely free.
That’s a big ass rod to fish some bass
How does it line up tho when you get slammed and line is running out super fast? I could see it being hard to get it to capture on the roller no?
It's a good point, one that others have made here too. It's never happened to me is all I can say, the line is on the roller a few fractions of a second before the lure has actually hit the water.
Where can I get that rod?
Hardy no longer make this rod. Best to search an online auction for a second-hand version as they appear from time-to-time.
I love my reel van stall VR50 VR150 vS250
What if you get a fish right when it lands before you're able to put the line back on the line roller?
Right before your lure/bait hits the water you use your index finger to prevent more line from coming off your spool.
Also, you should always hold your reel in between your pinky and fourth finger for better line and casting control with your index finger each time you cast.
what plus in bailess ? Usefull technology
What is the benefits of having a bailess reel vs one with a bail????.....
one reel maker idiot kept breaking his bail in factory, so he made a bailess reel XD
Great demo and interesting but not something I would use as a bait fisherman.
I can understand that. Like your channel BTW, just subbed.
Roller ,is the same as a Mitchell 449 reel same roller
It's a reel for using artificial lures with frequent casting, Not for rod holders
For me for now its a step back.Untill i try one and test it.
I'm wondering if your not constantly reeling, deadsticking jigs or "pop, pop, stopping" mirrodines if the line is gonna jump off that roller.
It's too bad more companies aren't offering a variety of bailess spinning reels, especially for freshwater fishing. Yeah, it's a little more work, but the design is much better overall.
Penn does.
It just seems like it would easily fall off
Yep, that's what I always thought. Hasn't happened to me yet though.
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At the point, he a strike by a fish, your finger degloving
No good for me; I'm a righty who also reels with my right.