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Something I just noticed is that he’s putting a cartridge in while the system is on, then selects the system on a menu. That doesn’t seem like it should work that way.
Most analogue products work exactly like that. Super NT at the very least lets you hop between turrican (built in) and "run cartridge" to power cycle like an everdrive. Still a scam though.
Giving benefit of the doubt and assuming what he is showing is an early prototype then it would make sense for the game not to immediately start. With original consoles ( to my knowledge) they would boot straight from the cartridge once recognized. Consoles now in days don't immediately start the game but rather load an OS that usually has a menu to select different apps and / or games. Would make sense to assume that to be the case here as well with the console having multiple inputs for media. Would be terrible for the console to crash if someone loaded a cart and forgot they left a cd in the console lol. Haven't seen the original videos yet ( or finished this one), but from what I can see it really doesn't inspire confidence in me that the GUI interface is already loaded upon him starting the TV. Had he shown himself connecting a video / audio cable ( HDMI presumably) to the screen after turning the TV on to a blank screen then i would feel a bit more confident. As MakeShiftSavant said this is clearly a scam lol.
After looking through the vids, I stopped giving him the benefit of the doubt, especially after some FPGA devs concluded the circuit board layout makes no sense for it to work as intended. I'm betting on the TV being a Smart TV running emulators. There is a USB cable connected to the TV but no video cable despite the HDMI ports, which fits well with the theory that the circuit board is just a glorified pass-thru for the USB controller.
@@MahkyVmedia1 you can, but this is not something that could’ve possibly gone to market with the sega branding. It would be shut the fuck down so fast, and honestly I’m surprised it wasn’t. Calling it Sega in any capacity implies Sega’s involvement.
@@MahkyVmedia1 I don’t think that is a saying. But yes, obviously. You sound like a first semester philosophy major that came from a strict upbringing.
I don't know much about computers, but within a SECOND when I saw the board I thought it doesn't quite look as "busy" in the board as it should, especially with this much stuff fit in.
I love how they showed the board with very obvious traces from the front USB straight to the rear USB port as a pass through and the Xbox controller is activated as player one before he even turns on the console
I'm a mechanical engineer - I can see some traces in that circuit board and some components might be on the opposite side for clearance. But yeah overall this looks fishy to me too.
I was wondering how much is hidden under that massive heat sink. An FPGA layout doesn't have to be huge. The core board of the MiSTer isn't particularly big, and a lot of it is I/O, which on this board is all moved to the front or back. It could all be there. But if so, they did everything they could to make the video *look* suspicious.
Yeah it "could" be a multilayer board, but making an multilayer board with top and bottom layer being just for obfuscation feels a lot like too much money wasted for looks especially for a dev board... maybe for the retail version but even then why bother on something that stays in a case
what got me is the fact there's a SODIMM slot on that board...you know laptop ram. the memory chips on emulation devices like analogue's consoles would be soldered to the board itself, I didn't need to see anything else to determine it was a scam.
I agree this is a scam, but sodims on dev boards are a thing. Especially if the memory spec isnt set yet or if its more cost effective to change dev-retail memory configs by removing a stick. So a sodimm is not automatically a redflag, but on this board without the rest needed to run a memory controller etc it 100% is.
Good example is the virtex6 fpga board that has 2x sodimm slots. So yes fpga dev boards with sodimm slots do exist but they arent this sparcely populated and the so dimm would be much closer to the core (you want traces to be as short as you can because of latency)
I notice the GUI show Sega CD, Saturn & Dreamcast and "No CD inserted". Well, how does the "console" know that since there is no CD drive attached to it anyway?!
To be fair, that could just be how it's coded e.g. by default it says 'no cd' until some code updates it and there's no scenario for a missing ODD or they disabled the code that handles an ODD. Of course I say this presuming that it's real.
Hey @patthenespunk I am not trying to defend these guys if you think they are scamming but if you look at your video at about 6:17 when he is trying to put the card in and then blows on it, the slot on the screen says "SLOT EMPTY" he puts the cart in and nothing, he takes it out and blows on it then puts it back in, and the moment after he does that it says "SLOT IN" so either they have someone there at the exact second he does it to load a rom off screen somehow or has this screen pre-recorded and has amazing reflexes but idk. OFC this doesn't really explain why he would have to do a jump cut when starting the game, but I just wanted to make sure you noticed that.
The real reason no one's done dreamcast FPGA's is because it requires a larger and much more expensive FPGA, not because companies like analogue just can't figure it out lol. The one pictured here, the Alinx AMD ZYNQ ZU2CG, sells for around 400-500 dollars (Although I couldn't find Alinx FPGA's not part of a dev kit though so maybe a bit cheaper if you can source one on it's own). The FPGA cost is just the start because you have the cost of core/PCB R&D, software, marketing, packaging and all the other costs of bringing a product to market. The end commercial product would probably end up being in the $800-$1000 dollar range or maybe even more. That's a lot of scratch to ask people to pay for one unique core that other smaller FPGA's, like the MiSter's DE-10 nano, can't do.
That will be an 04-08 gallardo, which is the cheaper version. In the US, that could be a $100k +/- 20k depending on mileage. The backup camera is almost unusable, so you just have to rely on the mirrors. The guy definitely doesn’t usually drive it there or in general. So could be a rental
Giving them the benefit of the doubt, this comes off like an engineer with no marketing or social know-how to me than a pure scam. He doesn't really give a shit about the quality of his videography, he doesn't wanna explain things to anyone, etc. Best of luck to him, but it'll be hard for him to get investment that way. He'll need to get all the way to the finished product before people will give him any money.
Yeah, I watched the actual video about this, and it looked sketchy as hell. Feel bad for the people who actually spend their money on this scam project...
Yeah that "board" looks a little too green and clean. I'd bet a shiny nickel that the super Sega thing is a HUGE scam. It's too bad though, on paper it seems like a great idea as long as it was legit.
A great tripod costs less than $40. Their answer: You know, instead of a well-positioned camera using a tripod or two, here's this Lambo. Not to mention. Coffeezilla just recently made a parody of this kind of "expensive car" grift in one of his most recent videos. Did they watch that and said, "Good idea!!" ?
Why does what is intended for gaming use need 4 old serial ports? You clearly can't insert controllers into it, so what is it for? That's a big red flag in case you didn't already know.
Pretty bizarre that an owner of a camera company (even if its flagship product was a big flop) suddenly cannot record a decent quality demo for Supersega. Also the 8k camera had some shitty UI and I'm almost 100% sure they stuck a Intel NUC inside the body of the camera. The two blue and yellow USB ports are common with NUCs from that time
Look I like the podcast and I have all 3 of Pat's books. The books are incredible except for the one guy that reviewed Chrono Trigger entirely with alleration. But don't think I can take every single podcast clip for the next 2 years being about a scam console.
In the year of our lord 2024, gamers have access to: The largest online marketplace of refurbished original retro gaming consoles and games, at leveled-off prices. Every retro game ever dumped online with the best emulation weve ever had. Repro consoles from reputable companies. What some gamers still choose: Pledge hundred of dollars to a greasy sheister in a lambo whose gluing off the shelf parts together. 🤡
I'm not one who likes bashing before I see some confirmed information, and would very much like this to be a future thing that will work/happen, but with the current information circulating, I hope things will change for the better but understand the feeling of it being fishy 🤥
Notice how these scummy people always used a retro company name so to entice customers to fall for their scam console: SNK NeoGeo X (not the real SNK) Intellivision Amico (not the real Intellivision) Coleco Chameleon (not the real Coleco) SuperSega (not the real Sega) At least the Atari VCS is made by the real Atari.
He has two choices for paying yet is very unclear what they mean, seems one choice you pay to get told when pre-order go live , The 2nd choice you pay 250$ even if it does not happen. He does delete most of just asking for more info. When people go out of their way to be unclear and will not make it clear, it's a scam. Call your card and remove it if you did choice any of the payment choices.
This reminds of a ton of scam consoles that were covered by Slopes Game Room in the Kickscammers series. Terrible video quality with really bad acting. No prototype and refusing to show people proof.
Whether it’s a true clone, FPGA, or emulation, I’m not crazy about clones, but I could totally get on board with one that could handle all of Sega’s consoles plus the Game Gear. That’s SG-1000, Mark II, Mark III, Master System, Sega Card, Genesis, 32X, Game Gear, Sega CD, Saturn, and Dreamcast. That sounds a lot more cluttered than it’d actually be. The Genesis and 32X would obviously share a slot, as would the SG-1000/Mark II/Japanese Master system. It’d only be two more slots than what the Retron 5 was able to pull off (and the Sega Card and Game Gear slots probably wouldn’t take up that much space anyway), plus the disc drive. You’d only need three sets of controller ports: Dreamcast, Saturn, and nine-pin for everything else. Ship it with one wireless Dreamcast controller with VMU support, and call it the Ginga. That’s Japanese for “galaxy”, a fitting name for one system that encompasses all of Sega’s planet-based codenames. You could even slap “Drive” on the end of it for a fun play on words, GingaDrive.
Sounds like you should buy a MiSter because, with the lone exception of dreamcast, it can do every sega system and a whole lot more. That's problem with these projects. The MiSter/analogue already exist to fill this niche. Especially now that clone MiSter's exist that have reduced the price to the sub $200 dollar range. The only thing half these projects can claim is you get to stick your cartridge in it which like, who cares? If you feel compelled to stick a cartridge in a slot you probably already own the original hardware.
For a console that supposedly plays all Sega consoles, where's the card slot for Mark III/Master System cards? Hell, where's the Mark III compatibility? Yeah the Mark III and the Master System were very similar but (much like the Famicom & NES) the cartridges between JP and Western models were different. So if this thing is designed for Western Master System cartridges it cannot play Mark III games. I mean... it's probably senseless to logically dissect an obvious scam. But still, makes it extra obvious they don't even know what they're talking about to begin with.
Gamers ! Please ! Why can’t we be patient ?! Why do u need to preorder anything that’s a start up ? Just BE PATIENT ! Wait until the product is actually produced and in the stores ! Buy the product when u can walk in a store and pick it up . They say they need money ? TOO BAD ! We are the smartest consumers on the planet . Let’s just act that way . P.S. The guy looks like one of those lab guys from Breaking Bad ! The guy that in Mexico making drugs for Gus ! 😂
The odd thing is that as fake as it seems, and I agree it does - the board looks like an unfinished prototype, at best, and yeah, is way too under-populated -, there's not any fundamental reason it SHOULD be fake. The idea they're trying to sell is not complicated. It could be done easily enough. Although if I wanted to be generous - the board could just be very oddly laid out. We aren't used to seeing board that big with that little on them, but I'm not going to say it's impossible it's real. But it does look odd. If they were actually claiming early on Dreamcast compatibility, though... Eee, that's not a good look. It implies they don't really know what they're talking about. There aren't many consumer-available optical drives that can read GD-ROMS. I think it was low single digits the amount of models that could, and none are manufactured any more. So they would be spending a lot of effort to build an essentially useless feature.
Could this ACTUALLY be a parody of scammer projects? Like a PSA / social experiment? 26:05 ... no, wait... nevermind... :D it's probably not a parody just feels like one.
If it was legit, then the team taking deposits should have no problems sending review units to some youtubers. They haven't done that. Instead we get theatrics. Also, they are calling themselves "Sega". Any red flags here???
cartridgeslot is not screwed to the motherboard. this is impossible. you can easily demolish the cardrigde connector. sega saturn and dreamcast? I don't see any chips that can handle this. This seems like an impossible project to me.
Lol, you have no clue. Atari 2600 has no screws, Coleco has no screws, Dina, Sg1000 all no screws. Not defending this guy at all, but no, it won't destroy the board.
Ugh, another shoddy looking modern console for retro gaming, but with yet another badly filmed presentation? Where have we all seen this before? Hard pass.
I love living in the time where scammers like this exist and shows like yours exist and yet these guys with the Sega will make all the money they needed and y'all talking about how it's a scam will do nothing, infact it'll help the scammers because you're basically advertising for them hahahahaha what a time to be around
These guys have been wrong so many times, they should stop doing this. Prediction, within a year both of these goofs say something similar to this, I could not preorder the SuperSega, and cannot find one anywhere, but hopefully somebody will sell me theirs. Let's be real, if these guys are ranting about it being fake, there is a 99% chance it is real and not a scam.
@TheSportsHammock Or do we have another guy that cannot think for himself, and gets emotional every time somebody says something they disiike. Work on them insult, because calling people a shill is super weak. You can do better. Come up with something more original and clever. Nothing I said was wrong. They have made several video just like this one, and ended up being wrong. Grow up, fix you fragile emotions. History usually repeats itself, so I assume within the next year they'll be bummed that they did not preorder this, and that others have it and they do not. It is what happened the other times they were wrong. Before I go, let's loo at your logic, because if you are saying I am a shill, then you too are a shill fr this channel. Your own logic backfiring on you. Stop getting tore up over comments about strangers on the web. It is quite childish.
You don't have to like all their opinions if you don't want to, I was pretty sure they were going to talk about it eventually, was just a matter of time. But it's already been covered for months by Pixel Cherry Ninja and Video Game Esoterica who are much more familiar with FPGA gaming. And ElectronAsh who is a hardware dev already picked it apart good and they are just as skeptical. PCN did interview Mr. Martin so he wasn't just speculating he wanted to get info straight from the source. The interview did not make me more confident as it turned awkward pretty quick. Maybe it was a language barrier but he could not answer any of the more technical questions and the why and how of overcoming their obstacles was still very vague.
@@ccricers I do not care what their opinions are. I was actually just making a joke based on the fact they have been wrong a lot.. Y'all need to grow up and stop being so emotional.
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UPDATE! Since we recorded, the Supersega team released a new video showing an updated 3D-printed shell with a CD drive that powers up and does nothing. th-cam.com/video/TEtDDtbcuo0/w-d-xo.html
Something I just noticed is that he’s putting a cartridge in while the system is on, then selects the system on a menu. That doesn’t seem like it should work that way.
Most analogue products work exactly like that. Super NT at the very least lets you hop between turrican (built in) and "run cartridge" to power cycle like an everdrive.
Still a scam though.
@@makeshiftsavant That explains my ignorance. I haven’t played with any of the Analogue systems yet.
Giving benefit of the doubt and assuming what he is showing is an early prototype then it would make sense for the game not to immediately start. With original consoles ( to my knowledge) they would boot straight from the cartridge once recognized. Consoles now in days don't immediately start the game but rather load an OS that usually has a menu to select different apps and / or games. Would make sense to assume that to be the case here as well with the console having multiple inputs for media. Would be terrible for the console to crash if someone loaded a cart and forgot they left a cd in the console lol.
Haven't seen the original videos yet ( or finished this one), but from what I can see it really doesn't inspire confidence in me that the GUI interface is already loaded upon him starting the TV. Had he shown himself connecting a video / audio cable ( HDMI presumably) to the screen after turning the TV on to a blank screen then i would feel a bit more confident. As MakeShiftSavant said this is clearly a scam lol.
After looking through the vids, I stopped giving him the benefit of the doubt, especially after some FPGA devs concluded the circuit board layout makes no sense for it to work as intended. I'm betting on the TV being a Smart TV running emulators. There is a USB cable connected to the TV but no video cable despite the HDMI ports, which fits well with the theory that the circuit board is just a glorified pass-thru for the USB controller.
@@ccricersseems to be the most likely explanation. That's what Kevtris hypothesizes as well
Did someone tell Tommy to hold their beer? 🍺😅
Balsamic vinegar and artisanal root beer!!
Supersegapastapals.
Tommy is too busy being a professional backgammon player now.
It's too bad someone didn't take the beer away. And the desserts. And the third helpings.
@Skorpio420 🤣🤣🤣
The biggest red flag for me during this whole thing was they were calling it a SEGA system like that's just ok to do! 😂
Yeah, it's ok, you can say whatever you want.
@@MahkyVmedia1 you can, but this is not something that could’ve possibly gone to market with the sega branding. It would be shut the fuck down so fast, and honestly I’m surprised it wasn’t. Calling it Sega in any capacity implies Sega’s involvement.
@@opaljk4835 you ever hear the saying "you're not supposed to, but you can"
@@MahkyVmedia1 I don’t think that is a saying. But yes, obviously. You sound like a first semester philosophy major that came from a strict upbringing.
@opaljk4835 lol okay, and?
Cant afford to send someone an expensive prototype, but will dick around with it in the rain
😂 Right
And blow smoke in the same room with it too
I don't know much about computers, but within a SECOND when I saw the board I thought it doesn't quite look as "busy" in the board as it should, especially with this much stuff fit in.
Oh god not the Lambo 💀
Prototype presentation from the Elizabeth Holmes school of engineering.
"you're going to wear the T-shirt of the company you used to own to the video of the company you currently own? Don't be that guy."
I love how they showed the board with very obvious traces from the front USB straight to the rear USB port as a pass through and the Xbox controller is activated as player one before he even turns on the console
Spot on 🎯
I'm a mechanical engineer - I can see some traces in that circuit board and some components might be on the opposite side for clearance. But yeah overall this looks fishy to me too.
I was wondering how much is hidden under that massive heat sink.
An FPGA layout doesn't have to be huge. The core board of the MiSTer isn't particularly big, and a lot of it is I/O, which on this board is all moved to the front or back. It could all be there.
But if so, they did everything they could to make the video *look* suspicious.
Yeah it "could" be a multilayer board, but making an multilayer board with top and bottom layer being just for obfuscation feels a lot like too much money wasted for looks especially for a dev board... maybe for the retail version but even then why bother on something that stays in a case
I swear, that guy tried to sell me lotion and body spray at a mall kiosk
what got me is the fact there's a SODIMM slot on that board...you know laptop ram.
the memory chips on emulation devices like analogue's consoles would be soldered to the board itself, I didn't need to see anything else to determine it was a scam.
I agree this is a scam, but sodims on dev boards are a thing. Especially if the memory spec isnt set yet or if its more cost effective to change dev-retail memory configs by removing a stick. So a sodimm is not automatically a redflag, but on this board without the rest needed to run a memory controller etc it 100% is.
Good example is the virtex6 fpga board that has 2x sodimm slots. So yes fpga dev boards with sodimm slots do exist but they arent this sparcely populated and the so dimm would be much closer to the core (you want traces to be as short as you can because of latency)
I notice the GUI show Sega CD, Saturn & Dreamcast and "No CD inserted". Well, how does the "console" know that since there is no CD drive attached to it anyway?!
Just a splash screen for emulation
To be fair, that could just be how it's coded e.g. by default it says 'no cd' until some code updates it and there's no scenario for a missing ODD or they disabled the code that handles an ODD.
Of course I say this presuming that it's real.
Hey @patthenespunk I am not trying to defend these guys if you think they are scamming but if you look at your video at about 6:17 when he is trying to put the card in and then blows on it, the slot on the screen says "SLOT EMPTY" he puts the cart in and nothing, he takes it out and blows on it then puts it back in, and the moment after he does that it says "SLOT IN" so either they have someone there at the exact second he does it to load a rom off screen somehow or has this screen pre-recorded and has amazing reflexes but idk. OFC this doesn't really explain why he would have to do a jump cut when starting the game, but I just wanted to make sure you noticed that.
The real reason no one's done dreamcast FPGA's is because it requires a larger and much more expensive FPGA, not because companies like analogue just can't figure it out lol. The one pictured here, the Alinx AMD ZYNQ ZU2CG, sells for around 400-500 dollars (Although I couldn't find Alinx FPGA's not part of a dev kit though so maybe a bit cheaper if you can source one on it's own). The FPGA cost is just the start because you have the cost of core/PCB R&D, software, marketing, packaging and all the other costs of bringing a product to market. The end commercial product would probably end up being in the $800-$1000 dollar range or maybe even more. That's a lot of scratch to ask people to pay for one unique core that other smaller FPGA's, like the MiSter's DE-10 nano, can't do.
Not to mention it’s probably less than $100 for a Dreamcast console and less than $50 for a knock off gdemu ODE from china 😅
Is water wet? Is the sky blue? lol.
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I was dying when u showed him in his lab coat😅
It just gets worse and worse..it's Bizarro Amico Chameleon world
I''ve never bought a custom circuit board but I bet they cost a lot less than $15k, and how exactly does he need a 4 layer PCB to run a Genesis?
Blast Processing
That will be an 04-08 gallardo, which is the cheaper version. In the US, that could be a $100k +/- 20k depending on mileage. The backup camera is almost unusable, so you just have to rely on the mirrors. The guy definitely doesn’t usually drive it there or in general. So could be a rental
This fake console is super Sega levels of scammy.
I'm sure Sega Sammy would have something to say about the Sega-scammy.
I was hoping a certain someone was going to hop out that lambo with a fake mustache.
Enter Tommy "Talleria" the backgammon HOFer.
He also has it misspelled on the menu as "cardridge" and not "cartridge"!!! Hahaha!!!!😂
Ian trippin when Pat mentions simulation 😂😂
Giving them the benefit of the doubt, this comes off like an engineer with no marketing or social know-how to me than a pure scam. He doesn't really give a shit about the quality of his videography, he doesn't wanna explain things to anyone, etc. Best of luck to him, but it'll be hard for him to get investment that way. He'll need to get all the way to the finished product before people will give him any money.
I think this wait music is the same as HQ Trivia.
Yeah, I watched the actual video about this, and it looked sketchy as hell. Feel bad for the people who actually spend their money on this scam project...
Yeah that "board" looks a little too green and clean. I'd bet a shiny nickel that the super Sega thing is a HUGE scam. It's too bad though, on paper it seems like a great idea as long as it was legit.
A great tripod costs less than $40. Their answer: You know, instead of a well-positioned camera using a tripod or two, here's this Lambo. Not to mention. Coffeezilla just recently made a parody of this kind of "expensive car" grift in one of his most recent videos. Did they watch that and said, "Good idea!!" ?
That afterburner footage shows the controller having super delay which makes me think he’s not controlling it
Why does what is intended for gaming use need 4 old serial ports?
You clearly can't insert controllers into it, so what is it for?
That's a big red flag in case you didn't already know.
Pretty bizarre that an owner of a camera company (even if its flagship product was a big flop) suddenly cannot record a decent quality demo for Supersega. Also the 8k camera had some shitty UI and I'm almost 100% sure they stuck a Intel NUC inside the body of the camera. The two blue and yellow USB ports are common with NUCs from that time
It’s the use of the compact flash card in 2024 that’s hilariously wrong in this picture
Would this in theory be the first dreamcast FPGA? Smells like obvious BS, even if the video wasn't damning enough
Look I like the podcast and I have all 3 of Pat's books. The books are incredible except for the one guy that reviewed Chrono Trigger entirely with alleration.
But don't think I can take every single podcast clip for the next 2 years being about a scam console.
FWIW, that's a pretty old Lambo that could be had for around $70k. I don't know if that's worse than a new one.
I still can't get over the board.
Just checked their website and it’s not even Secure. This is shady
Anyone that gave these fools money, I have an amazing deal with these magical beans....
In the year of our lord 2024, gamers have access to:
The largest online marketplace of refurbished original retro gaming consoles and games, at leveled-off prices.
Every retro game ever dumped online with the best emulation weve ever had.
Repro consoles from reputable companies.
What some gamers still choose:
Pledge hundred of dollars to a greasy sheister in a lambo whose gluing off the shelf parts together. 🤡
I'm not one who likes bashing before I see some confirmed information, and would very much like this to be a future thing that will work/happen, but with the current information circulating, I hope things will change for the better but understand the feeling of it being fishy 🤥
As a joke, someone should create a MiSTer FPGA background with the fake Supersega GUI.
Notice how these scummy people always used a retro company name so to entice customers to fall for their scam console:
SNK NeoGeo X (not the real SNK)
Intellivision Amico (not the real Intellivision)
Coleco Chameleon (not the real Coleco)
SuperSega (not the real Sega)
At least the Atari VCS is made by the real Atari.
The neogeo x wasnt a scam it launched, badly but it wasnt a scam
Well at least NeoGeo X had the sense to use clicky microswitches. That is what defined the Neo Geo Joystick.
How did the Atari VCS actually come out?
My question is doI need to supply my own Allen key?
Question number one: How much does it cost and Question number 2: Where can I get one
Were their mothers proud of them though?
He has two choices for paying yet is very unclear what they mean, seems one choice you pay to get told when pre-order go live , The 2nd choice you pay 250$ even if it does not happen. He does delete most of just asking for more info. When people go out of their way to be unclear and will not make it clear, it's a scam. Call your card and remove it if you did choice any of the payment choices.
Using the trailer part of the premiere as ads is pretty clever.
🤷😅
Could this guy be the new Tommy? I guess we'll see. Maybe he'll claim that he and his team have "over 600 years of experience" 😂
You guys make a lot of valid points, but you missed one big piece of evidence. He has a lab coat on! It HAS to be real! Lab coat = PhD
Its a white dinner jacket
This reminds of a ton of scam consoles that were covered by Slopes Game Room in the Kickscammers series. Terrible video quality with really bad acting. No prototype and refusing to show people proof.
Whether it’s a true clone, FPGA, or emulation, I’m not crazy about clones, but I could totally get on board with one that could handle all of Sega’s consoles plus the Game Gear.
That’s SG-1000, Mark II, Mark III, Master System, Sega Card, Genesis, 32X, Game Gear, Sega CD, Saturn, and Dreamcast. That sounds a lot more cluttered than it’d actually be. The Genesis and 32X would obviously share a slot, as would the SG-1000/Mark II/Japanese Master system. It’d only be two more slots than what the Retron 5 was able to pull off (and the Sega Card and Game Gear slots probably wouldn’t take up that much space anyway), plus the disc drive. You’d only need three sets of controller ports: Dreamcast, Saturn, and nine-pin for everything else.
Ship it with one wireless Dreamcast controller with VMU support, and call it the Ginga. That’s Japanese for “galaxy”, a fitting name for one system that encompasses all of Sega’s planet-based codenames. You could even slap “Drive” on the end of it for a fun play on words, GingaDrive.
Sounds like you should buy a MiSter because, with the lone exception of dreamcast, it can do every sega system and a whole lot more. That's problem with these projects. The MiSter/analogue already exist to fill this niche. Especially now that clone MiSter's exist that have reduced the price to the sub $200 dollar range. The only thing half these projects can claim is you get to stick your cartridge in it which like, who cares? If you feel compelled to stick a cartridge in a slot you probably already own the original hardware.
The guy in the glasses is Tom Green
For a console that supposedly plays all Sega consoles, where's the card slot for Mark III/Master System cards?
Hell, where's the Mark III compatibility? Yeah the Mark III and the Master System were very similar but (much like the Famicom & NES) the cartridges between JP and Western models were different. So if this thing is designed for Western Master System cartridges it cannot play Mark III games.
I mean... it's probably senseless to logically dissect an obvious scam. But still, makes it extra obvious they don't even know what they're talking about to begin with.
Gamers ! Please ! Why can’t we be patient ?! Why do u need to preorder anything that’s a start up ? Just BE PATIENT ! Wait until the product is actually produced and in the stores ! Buy the product when u can walk in a store and pick it up . They say they need money ? TOO BAD ! We are the smartest consumers on the planet . Let’s just act that way . P.S. The guy looks like one of those lab guys from Breaking Bad ! The guy that in Mexico making drugs for Gus ! 😂
The odd thing is that as fake as it seems, and I agree it does - the board looks like an unfinished prototype, at best, and yeah, is way too under-populated -, there's not any fundamental reason it SHOULD be fake. The idea they're trying to sell is not complicated. It could be done easily enough.
Although if I wanted to be generous - the board could just be very oddly laid out. We aren't used to seeing board that big with that little on them, but I'm not going to say it's impossible it's real. But it does look odd.
If they were actually claiming early on Dreamcast compatibility, though... Eee, that's not a good look. It implies they don't really know what they're talking about. There aren't many consumer-available optical drives that can read GD-ROMS. I think it was low single digits the amount of models that could, and none are manufactured any more. So they would be spending a lot of effort to build an essentially useless feature.
I hope this is an elaborate parody.
Could this ACTUALLY be a parody of scammer projects? Like a PSA / social experiment?
26:05 ... no, wait... nevermind... :D it's probably not a parody just feels like one.
If it was legit, then the team taking deposits should have no problems sending review units to some youtubers. They haven't done that. Instead we get theatrics. Also, they are calling themselves "Sega". Any red flags here???
Reminds me of the DiNA 2 in 1 from the late 80's
cartridgeslot is not screwed to the motherboard. this is impossible. you can easily demolish the cardrigde connector. sega saturn and dreamcast? I don't see any chips that can handle this. This seems like an impossible project to me.
Lol, you have no clue. Atari 2600 has no screws, Coleco has no screws, Dina, Sg1000 all no screws. Not defending this guy at all, but no, it won't destroy the board.
Also he spelt cartridge wrong. Its not cardridge
Is that the SupremeSega? This is hilarious.
My anxiety at 20:59😬😬😬
It's going to end up like the polymega, all emulation no fpga.
I'm actually in the market for jeans lol, I'll go and check 'em out! 1:40
They should be able to get their money back through their banks. If they intentionally took more than was asked for they are likely to go to jail.
Good luck with that
@@dutchbeef8920 If it is a fraudulent transaction the bank will reverse it. The whole credit card system relies on people being able to trust it.
IN SUPERSEGA WE TRUST
That dolt John the RetroBro is probably the first in line for this.
You could own the real systems for that money the people “allegedly” put down. Scam
Interesting..lol guys are hilarious. I love the part about the Lambo and the dude wearing the bankrupt shirt 😂.
Theres no traces going to some compasitors or out.just 2 traces on one cap thats it not next 2 so no power is getting through.
Its a pass through for emulation
Ugh, another shoddy looking modern console for retro gaming, but with yet another badly filmed presentation? Where have we all seen this before?
Hard pass.
I hear ya. I'm losing faith in humanity too...
Will it play sega CD tho?
The GUI says Sega CD. But the "console" that they are showing in the video doesn't have a CD drive!
🍿 time 😅
In before youre taken down!
I dunno guys, seems pretty legit to me
Their videos are comedy gold. Maybe this is all just one big joke?
👍 For you, Pat.
lol all he has done is grow his hair out and his beard lol same moles he's not even trying to hide its the same guy on the 8k video
20:56 You're just jealous because they [don't] have fat stacks of cash.
Nah. I'm not buying it. There's no way this is real. What the fuck is happening?
9:00 Hi Kevtris
I love living in the time where scammers like this exist and shows like yours exist and yet these guys with the Sega will make all the money they needed and y'all talking about how it's a scam will do nothing, infact it'll help the scammers because you're basically advertising for them hahahahaha what a time to be around
30.59 the case cutouts do not even match or line up right .more funny my the sec.
Sega for Life podcast boys!! Im ready to invest and shil the sht out of this!! 🎉😂
Cryptobro scammer vibes
The fuck does FPGA even mean?
It's a fancy term for 2024 that's been around for 40 years to get people to buy their consoles.
Supersegamico! 😍
We re-elected Trump. NUFF SAID.
To make a better humanity
democracy
Haha yep.
Absolute idiocy from this dude.
Pure scam
wtf did i just watch? 😂
Yo!!! FIRST!!!!!
Guys those are womens jeans
This wont go anywhere. Pat just trying to find something to bitch about.
Well we know Ian wasn't happy with the POTUS election lol
He's going to have to get used to seeing a lot more of Elon.
These guys have been wrong so many times, they should stop doing this. Prediction, within a year both of these goofs say something similar to this, I could not preorder the SuperSega, and cannot find one anywhere, but hopefully somebody will sell me theirs. Let's be real, if these guys are ranting about it being fake, there is a 99% chance it is real and not a scam.
Uh oh...do we have our first shill😅
@TheSportsHammock Or do we have another guy that cannot think for himself, and gets emotional every time somebody says something they disiike. Work on them insult, because calling people a shill is super weak. You can do better. Come up with something more original and clever. Nothing I said was wrong. They have made several video just like this one, and ended up being wrong. Grow up, fix you fragile emotions. History usually repeats itself, so I assume within the next year they'll be bummed that they did not preorder this, and that others have it and they do not. It is what happened the other times they were wrong. Before I go, let's loo at your logic, because if you are saying I am a shill, then you too are a shill fr this channel. Your own logic backfiring on you. Stop getting tore up over comments about strangers on the web. It is quite childish.
You don't have to like all their opinions if you don't want to, I was pretty sure they were going to talk about it eventually, was just a matter of time. But it's already been covered for months by Pixel Cherry Ninja and Video Game Esoterica who are much more familiar with FPGA gaming. And ElectronAsh who is a hardware dev already picked it apart good and they are just as skeptical. PCN did interview Mr. Martin so he wasn't just speculating he wanted to get info straight from the source. The interview did not make me more confident as it turned awkward pretty quick. Maybe it was a language barrier but he could not answer any of the more technical questions and the why and how of overcoming their obstacles was still very vague.
@@TheSportsHammock Aww do we have a childish adult that cannot handle online comments? How cute
@@ccricers I do not care what their opinions are. I was actually just making a joke based on the fact they have been wrong a lot.. Y'all need to grow up and stop being so emotional.