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Shiny gray for sure. Thanks for all of your cool videos!
Hi Brian, thanks for the video.
Here in Germany we call it "Stahlflex Bremsschläuche".
These you can get for most all cars here, as you said, they don't work like balloons especially when they get older.
Than they give you a direct feeling on the brake pedal so the brake pads get faster and more direct on the disc.
So at driving with these lines you have a 40 to 60% better brake feedback and a more force on the brake.
So it's not even for sports cars or race equipment, it's a safety tool for every car.
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I would be careful about putting race parts on a street car. Some race parts, like brakes, actually cause poor performance on the street and can fail sooner. For instance, race pads and calipers are designed to work better at higher temperatures without fade, and will actually increase stopping distances with normal street use. If you ever need to make an emergency stop after not constantly using the brakes, race pads may put you in harm's way. If the pads you put on don't immediately *increase* the cold stopping distance, they are definitely *not* true racing parts.
As for rubber vs. steel braided hoses, what you don't see is that "rubber" hoses aren't just hollow tubes of rubber. If that were the case, they wouldn't work at all and would simply bulge like balloons when you stepped on the pedal and there would not be enough pressure on the pads to slow you down at all. In reality, those rubber hoses have internal braiding that holds the pressure. The rubber is just there to seal it and provide protection from abrasion for both the internal hose structure and external moving parts.
Braided stainless steel lines *might* have a tiny advantage in pressure retention, although that is debatable, but their primary advantage is in protecting the hoses from mechanical damage. That isn't necessary for street cars, and may actually be a problem for other components because stainless steel is brittle and will fray over time (even if nothing else is touching it) and cause damage if it rubs against other components.
Race parts don't have they same durability requirements or criteria as street parts because races are short (usually 24 hours or less) and will be inspected frequently or just outright replaced every race. So they have to endure harsher usage but for a *MUCH* shorter time. Both of those criteria are extremely important to the differences between street and race parts, and actually make race parts far inferior in the long term on a street car.
Think of it this way: a 2,500 hp Top Fuel dragster's engine might be a lot of fun for a short time but wouldn't last very long if you tried to take it on a cross-country trip.
Stainless steel expands as its temperature increases but it doesn’t soften like rubber and rubber expands about 4 times as much per degree.
I saw you earlier near Target. It’s nice that we are getting a break from being a rainforest.👍
Suggestion: In your subject line please indicate all topics. I almost missed the last 1/2 because I am not brake-line interested.
Can't wait to see Bob on the track!
Could have pulled a Rich Rebuilds "Thicccc" on that crack, unless it was a full on wardrobe malfunction plumber's incident :D
The ceramic didn't stop mine from collecting brake dust but does make them way easier to clean, I think Autopilot really prefers the brakes to slowing early enough to let regen do its thing, at least that's my experience with AP1 on the Model S and AP 2.5 on the Model X. Those red calipers look great, especially the custom decals.
Matte!!!!
Where can I find a rear brake hose for a model X ? My mechanic said it’s hard to find. Thanks
Great video. Not into the goofy trunk spring type stuff or running cables around ... under and through trim pieces BUT the brake lines are sweet and the video was awesome. Nice work.
Haha, I like the proof at 5:03 that you are looking at the instructions :)
I personally like the shine rather than matte
Is it fine to jack the car one point at the time? Shouldn't you raise it from the 2 points in each side simultaneously? One point at the time puts stress on the car floor where the battery is, so slightly bending the battery pack can't be good right? Can't you use a, sort of, arm link to raise the car from one side in one jack? Sorry for the weird English, hope you understand what I'm trying to say.
Tesla uses the one back jacking point to rotate the tires
@@i1Tesla ok. That was the doubt i was having about jack a model 3. I want to buy one and i never did tire rotation on my previous cars and i still don't really know why people need to that with teslas but i will to learn about that later. But i recently learned that tesla charges for tire rotation and if i will have to do that i prefer to do it myself and the bending of the car frame and floor did put some doubt on my mind. Nice that you were able to clear that up for me. Thanks
Even if you screw up, it isn't a problem. If the brakes don't stop you, something else will.
are you talking about regen?
First thing is a line wrench 🔧 should be used. (to prevent stripping of fitting). Second hopefully you bled them in the proper sequences. rr, lr, rf, left front. If not you might have issues later. Also, only qualified personal should open up a closed brake system. And lastly, never mix brakes fluids. If you didn't completely evacuate old fluid, which is very hard to do, there will be a mixing a fluids....a no no...!!! Ive done this for 40 years and when flush time comes, I will let Tesla take care of it, (regardless of price). They have the proper pressurized system to completely drain all old fluids....let me know if I missed anything about the instructions I missed...!!??
Didn't need a line wrench as a 12 mm fir perfectly. I did bleed then in the proper order and they where in the instructions too. I did n't know about the fluid flush. I though you could just follow the same sequence until the old fluid is out. I will look into it. Thank you.
@@i1Tesla as bleeding thing, do you know how much brake oil it took? want to make sure I not buy way more than need, also unlike you my country it be rl first as rhd and it always furthest from fill point to closer
Hi, How much of the brake fluid do you need?
Will the battery over heat on a track race? I thinke you need some cooling eliment for the cooling battery flouid?
The battery will be fine on the 3. The S will need to slow down after 10 minutes
Mat grey of course
"I keep my smartwatch on while i wrench. That's just how I roll, yo."
"All the products I used today I'll link to them in the description". Yea, but where do we get the cool brake fluid drain pan at 6:22? ;-)
Any Dollar store :)
I like satin finish (between flat and gloss) personally. What are you going to put on the lug nuts? There's an opportunity for some color there too.
Matte! ceramic coating works on matte too.
Mate grey
Shiny paint!!
you mentioned the track pads make some noise, but the sports version does not? can you provide a link to the sport version? I ask because i was looking for the sport version on mountainpass site, but no luck.
www.mountainpassperformance.com/product/mpp-page-mill-street-brake-pads/
I think matte would look great
I really enjoyed this video! Your brakes look amazing! Now you’ll be able to change your own brake fluid every two years, hopefully your service center will reset the maintenance reminder for you. It sounds like you have a close relationship with them, so it won’t be a problem. What about the rest of us that don’t have that relationship? We’ll have to get ripped off by Tesla’s extraordinarily high cost of routine maintenance.
You don't have to do all the maintenance stuff. I just did the first one on my wife's car after 22K miles. They don't dock you out here anyway.
@@i1Tesla Is there a maintenance reminder that displays on the screen that has to be reset?
I never saw one or Karen never told me
@@i1Tesla We won't know if the Model 3 has any service reminders until the first ones are two years old. How often will you replace your Model 3's cabin air filter? I was thinking about every 2 years.
This really isn't needed on the Model 3, especially because of its hard regenerative braking. Maybe it could be useful on the Performance Model 3. An informative video, thanks! But take off your Apple Watch when working on a car, you'll scratch the face. And you didn't show the brake bleeding process, I'd suggest Speed Bleeder valves, which would have been the perfect time to install. They replace the stock valves and make one person brake bleeding so easy.
How about doing a video on Sentry Mode and your thoughts for improvements.
Since you are very into mods, you could try replacing the heavy lead acid battery with 4lifepo cells. It might not work long term if the circuits trickle charge, you can measure that, but could be interesting. It's something Tesla should have done themselves. So dumb to carry lead around.
Yeah, but voltage differences and other differences could lead to that being a problem.
@@TheBowerbird Depending on what you mean, yes. 4 lifepo cells actually match the voltage of lead acid car batts quite well but unless it's extremely fortunate, the lifepo cells wont be treated for longevity. That means they could die out in a few weeks, maybe last a few years. 4 lifepo nominal is 12.8v and fully charged 14.4 which is a very workable replacement range. But if the car circuits insist on trickle charging no matter the voltage which an amp meter can measure, then they will sizzle out right away. But if it has a cut off voltage suitable for lead acid, it could well work for years. Then there is a secondary issue of any 'smarts' in the car that observes the aux battery capacity and voltage response that might be puzzled by the behavior. There is also an aspect of how much ripple current it's expected to handle. I'm guessing near nothing but in principle they could burst load it a couple hundred amps in which case 4 tiny lifepo cells will likely disappoint the car's monitors. A first experiment could be done with just 4 tiny 2.3Ah A123 cells. I'm guessing it would work but in case of main pack switch off, it will naturally run out very quickly. But cool experiment. Because Tesla cars are very wasteful, you might need 10 or 20Ah of lifepo to function as intended. But 4 tiny cells is a more striking demo. And might just wake up Tesla to finally get rid of those bleeping lead acid starter batteries.
Hey Brian, Do you believe there is a way to add air suspension to the 3? Improving the ride...
Yes some people have. Not cheap accuair.com
Ouch. Although here in Wisconsin the winter takes a toll on the roads.
Shiny for sure....
Did the service center show you exactly which suspension part failed and how it failed. Not sure if they will show you the defective part since it’s warranty repair.
They didn't show me the part but it was the upper control arm on the drivers side that they replaced. The noise sounded like the bushing to me. The other side is going now
i1Tesla Hi Brian! I’m not sure what you’re talking about.
A few videos ago I was going to the service center and got a Model X for a loaner. They had my 3 in getting the control arm replaced. I glanced over it in the video because I was just at the service center where I diagnosed it and had to order the part. Didn't want to seem like Im always there
i1Tesla, you mean it squeaks if you go over a speed bump? Control arm bushings use to be replaceable, but I haven’t seen the model 3 design.
Those don’t look like polyurethane bushings so they should make zero noise. They look like elastomeric bushings. Those can be ruined by tightening them when the control arm isn’t midrange of its swing. Then it tears the rubber away from the metal starts squeaking and wearing down very fast.
i1Tesla Thank you, Brian
I remember adjusted the brakes on my old VW bug. When I went to the mechanic he asked me to hold out my ha d. He slapped it and said “ ever mess with your brakes again”. This is not a job for me. Lol
Another excellent video- #NCProud, And another option that I personally won’t attempt but enjoy learning about. I wanted to ask how the red paint job is holding up on your wife’s calipers. This is something that I may be interested in doing.... Thanks, Mike (Cary NC)
The Model S brake paint is perfect. The paint listed is for calipers and high heat. The brakes in a Tesla Don't get that hot though. They have other colors too. I almost went with Acid Green for mine but had the paint already. I did both cars and have more left over for 2 more cars.
I will have to drop you a line next time I drive to Charlotte. Thanks!
I was a new vehicle dealer in Ca. For over 30 years and if a customer puts an aftermarket part on a vehicle and it cause a failure on the part of the vehicle that it was put on the mfg does not have to honor the warranty for that part of the vehicle. It happens everyday, it will not void the warranty on the whole car but it will void that part of the car it was put on.
If you brake too much on a circuit, you’re driving the wrong racing lines dude 😉. be ware: pulsating cause by ABS Brake system can be felt much more obvious than when normal brake lines (rubber) are used.
If the ABS comes on , your braking wrong
@@IFlyinBaconI no, then you're braking with maximum effort, on the borderline of having the tyres loose grip and acquire grip...
If you didn't have ABS and you locked up I'd say your braking wrong
@@IFlyinBaconI if you don't have ABS, you're driving an old car ;)
Or you've turned it off either way my point is still the same
I think shiny is a better match. Aswell shiny is more durable.
Invest in good break fluid
I did and it should come today
Off topic but wondered if you could do a video about door seals and their affect on noise that I saw recently below?
teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/reducing-noise-and-keeping-the-door-sills-clean.141218/
Probably over heat the batteries before the brakes on a tesla haha
Nice connection with Shane @ Mothers! He's a great guy. You should ask Mountain Pass Performance for their TCS/VSC Defeat (MPP Track Mode) and do a review on that:
model3ownersclub.com/threads/mpp-vsc-killer-tcs-vsc-defeat.8725/
This is a waste of money on a model 3 with regen braking. There's people with 100k and with almost original brakes. On a regular car, yes this would be great but waste of money.
Yey I am 3rd!!
Can I dislike because there aren't enough likes... So I dislike the fact that there aren't enough likes.
ok
I disliked your comment to balance things off :-)
You should not wear the watch while working at the car. Don't be lazy ;-)
How about clothes. Should he wear those or not?
@@JeanPierreWhite As he did pixel out some this is a good question :-)
Your nuts are showing in the video! I notice that you have not used the plastic covers for your lug nuts. You just let them hang out in the air. Your video should have a "mature" rating.
That's funny. My wheels are going commando
All of these items, based on my recent conversations with TESLA service will void your warranty with TESLA. Even aftermarket wheels will stop TESLA service from checking your air in the tires. They won’t do it. So messing with your brakes, cutting wires is all a NO No with TESLA. It will come back to haunt you
I hope not but I have a great service department here in Charlotte
Yes, they can refuse to check the air in your aftermarket tires. No, they cannot void your warranty for aftermarket parts. Have a look at the Magnuson Moss Warranty Act. It's a federal law in the U.S. which prevents this. At best, Tesla can only void warranty coverage on affected components, but they need evidence that the aftermarket parts caused a failure. For instance, if these lines somehow failed causing the brake system to catastrophically fail, Tesla would not be on the hook for any warranty coverage. However, if the main vehicle battery failed, that coverage would still be valid. This is something few people understand but is covered under Magnuson Moss.
@@domg7359 I sold auto parts for 11 years, and used to preach this to my customers when selling aftermarket parts. In fact the whole Mag/Mor act is listed in the Bosch Spark plug catalogues.
@@44kas88 Unfortunately the dealers still spread misinformation about this trying to scare customers away from doing their own work. And most know nothing about the laws put in place to prevent these practices. IMO Tesla still has a long way to go on repairability and associated parts availability, they certainly shouldn't be spreading any lies about warranty coverage voiding.
Dom G yes but they will refuse to fix a repair if you put aftermarket parts on the item that needs fixing, read the act it is only for factory items that went bad, not aftermarket items that were placed on the car, have fun in court