How in the HYUNDAI? (No Rear Wiper & Foglights)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 17 ต.ค. 2024
- This 2013 Hyundai Tucson is from the auction block and is now at the used car lot, to be sold soon.
Several electrical accessories do not work:
Rear wiper, fog lights, blower, and the Check Engine light is on.
Let's start from scratch and see if we can get this one fixed the PHAD way!
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Enjoy!
Ivan
Thats a lot of separate problems for such a new car..
I was suspecting a pinched wire with 1 strand making contact I r something along those lines. Another great job Ivan
Just 4 top reasons why Ivan is #1 in my book. Honesty, Integrity, Humility, and just plain no BS! Thank's again Ivan!
Thanks for the kind words Brian!
Omg, I would never have imagined one fuse would have created so many problems, but it's true. All the things mentioned in the video, the wiper, fog lights, etc stopped working on my hyundai 2011. After watching this video I replaced the number 10 fuse and like magic everything is good now. Thanks, I really appreciated the detailed explanation.
I've seen more bad connections in the past 5 years then I've seen in the past 40. whats up with that? mostly newer vehicles. Quality? nice vid thanks.
Man you went through this Hyundai with ease! Keep the good stuff coming Ivan! Another great video for us to learn from!
Hey Greg good to hear from you bro! Just sent a customer your way down in Atlanta ;)
Good that you tested everything. I've seen a fuse act up like that. It's rare. Sometimes it was the previous diagnostic person that moved it.
Anyway, Good Deal!
Great work Ivan! Always learning from your strategies and admire your patience to get to the root of a problem! 5 stars
Over complicated modules, lol. Bit far fetched for me lmao. But great video. Can't belive it's the fuse that caused the problems!! Wow. Awesome, Ivan!
Nice work Ivan thanks for taking us along.
Yet another power of the visual and wiring diagram
Ivan, I didn’t get it when you manually turned on the blower motor. Did you just ground each wire at the resistor? Thanks for the video!
Thank you Ivan. Good job. Have a blessed and safe week to you and your family.
New client added to list of life long customers... No advertising required!
Thanks Ivan for presenting real every day issues. I also appreciate you keeping the videos clean and without off color remarks.
Been there and seen it, bought the Tshirt ! It’s a nightmare with poor connections today for techs! Great vid and information
Thanks for your good knowledge and videos you share with us man ,Scannerdanner sent me to you and South Main Auto you all do a very good job,God y'all.
That's some crazy stuff, nice job thanks for sharing this
Do you feel like someone was testing your skills and, maybe your honesty mate? I used to do this when a shop or Mechanic was suspect in charging for things that work. Just asking. Great diagnostic video. Your knowledge is superb. Thanks for the upload.
Well they tried a new wiper motor already so it was a legit call haha
It's a used car dealer so of course they would be up to some shady stuff like this!
Boy those scanners you use are worth their weight in gold. Combined with logical thought process, it's the only way to go diagnosing modern day vehicles. Good work as always.On a different note, I guess you heard the Big Ten Conference is back and resumes Oct 24. I'm sure the locals are thrilled in Happy Valley. :0
Like Inspector Gadget vintage comic..
Same blower issue with my 2010 Caliber. Found the issue was melted and deformed contacts behind the selector switch. Root cause was my girlfriend’s inability to make it to high speed position and was able to bridge 3rd and 4th(high) sudo Russian fix was clean up contacts and basic knob training.
Nice diagnosis and indeed an interesting case with the fuse not being fully in.
Great Find Ivan, Who would of known besides you...
Keith.
I like your Way to do these things. Very structured. I bought a powerprobe to years ago. This tool helhed med at lot for finding the kulprits of electrical isses.
I haven't used a PowerProbe ever... But the test light comes to the rescue every day 😁
Nice diag and very interesting! I wonder if that vehicle came from the auction where another potential buyer maybe pulled out the fuse to discourage competitors to bid on it.
🤔 stuff like that happens?
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I speculate that it does, I’ve never witnessed anything to prove my theory.
Saw this all the time, used to do work for a used car dealer that would send us stuff when their guy couldn't fix it. Bent over pins on ac pressure switches. Missing fuses. Snipped wire on a key transponder for a Nissan.. The list goes on.
CODY Balling used car dealers are the majority of my work and I see a lot of stuff that looks intentionally done which is why I speculate that people do it at the auctions to try to shy away buyers.
Fog lamps and rear wiper? Seems a bit lame for a sabotage.
Ivan always thinks it through!
How is the Saturn Astra doing Bill?
@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics Sent you an email he' was driving the car. To personal for out here.
Wow, that was weird fault, but luckily simple, no parts fix :)
Have had just once some fuse-weirdness with 2001 Nissan Micra seat heater fuse, which was corroded. The heater came on with looong delay and eventually died completely. Started working fine when I found that fuse and cleaned it, no parts required :D
That was lucky because seat heaters are expensive they were great cars those old Micra's
You would love the KIA/HYUNDAI factory scan tool, can look at data from multiple modules simultaneously and see what the switch and relay is doing at the same time.
Ivan, you might want to invest in that WeatherTech "cup phone" stand that fits in the car's cup holder to keep your Launch steady. That, or grow another arm!
Nice! You and Cory are picking up where Keith left off. You should get all kinds of good ones with a car dealer. 👍😎
@11:42 i wonder if the ign1 and ign2 pids would have shown the loss of voltage you later found because of the fuse.
I've been there on transmission control modules, truck rides like a sick horse without both power feeds.
Hello Ivan. Again, it seems the fuses are the first place to look!
Ivan is like a 2020 version of Agent 007, with license to kill mischievous cars & delinquent machines.
Sean Connery is my idol haha. Roger Moore is cool too :)
Gotta love weird electrical problems 🤩🤩🤩!!!!!
That diagun is amazing isnt it? Definitly worth the money it cost! Best budget scanner!
You're gonna like it
change the fog lite fluid
Being an auction car, I wonder if it was fixed before, but induced this problem when fuses were pulled to check them, and just not put in right. Too many times have I seen all fuses pulled one by one when there's an electrical problem.
I bet the previous owner has a aftermarket accessory tap on that fuse causing the issues.
Good Find! Hummm...How did that fuse magically slide out? I was betting on that resistor pack being bad. Ive seen some cars that squirrel fan area so full of leaves, dirt, and debris that air flow is restricted that the resistor bank pack overheats and burns up the pack...
You had the high beams on. The fog lights shut off when the high beams are engaged.
Eric O's Grandma was in there bending fuse blades.
That loose fuse really seems like a saboteur in action at some point, I can't see that happening on its own..
Haha that's what you get on auction cars 😁
Some people are just in a rush or sloppy. Extremely difficult to make something like that happen using that method.
Suspicious for that fuse..but what can I say, obviously somebody has been there. Anyway a logical approach is needed that's the trade.
One fuse pin was making contact with the power, the other one was not contacting the it's pin. Great find. U r tenacious. Any flying in PA?
Thanks Bill! No time to fly for me haha...getting chilly too
I was diagnosing a 2004 altima for a no start but I noticed that a few other things did not work Windows, wipers, and it would not come out of park or go back into park after you manually put it into gear the start fuse was good meaning there was power on both sidesbut there was no power coming out of the back the inside fuse box, I could feel something clicking inside the fuse box, so before replacing the fuse box I decided to check other fuses and found the " Electronic parts " fuse blown it starts and runs and everything also works, now I need to see what else is on that circuit before I let it go. BTW a shade tree installed a transmission that's when all this started. Here we go! I was thinking thru the video what else could it be! When you could bidirectionally turn that stuff on :/
Awesome video Ivan!
Not saying that a used car dealer would cut corners but for them to change an intake runner flap with a factory OEM part probably won't happen.. I smell a Dorman part being installed. They always use aftermarket to save every nickle they can. That or they won't admit that they will do what you called for and get the WD-40 out and have at it..
Ya for sure they would especially by the way they said no we usually just replace the whole lot but that will cost a fortune to do that whit dealership parts
Have 2014 Santa Fe sport. No rear wiper, headlights , hi beam flasher , fog lights all fuses appear to be good, switch turns on dash indicator lights. , headlights come on when car is turned off from running for a timed period. So headlights are ok. Need help !
Brown-outs are notoriously complex to detect in electronics and harder to report reliably.
Need help.
Both Fog lights stopped working both fuse and relay are okay.
Also the lights are new.
2016 Hyundai veloster non turbo.
Nice diag as usual. That was pretty crazy with the 1/2 plugged in fuse. I know on vw/Audi. When the hood is open the wipers will not work. I had that drive me crazy for a while one time. Possibly the doors need to be closed but not 100% on the doors. Keep me coming Ivan. I’m loving all the new videos. I’d like to figure out how to help your channel grow. People need to subscribe. What’s the ratio of people who watch the videos compared to subscribers?
Thanks Bill! I think I need to hire some help lol
Over complex ways of connecting power to a motor or pump, the madness of designers lol.
Brown-outs are notoriously complex to detect in electronics and harder to report reliably.
@@MoraFermi You never know what state a device will be left in.
I would imagine in a good system a brown out detector would be monitoring the power supply voltages, if they droop for more than a certain period of time the detector would hold the system in reset untill the supplys are within spec again, dropping the reset restarts the system.
That's just my opinion.
I could be wrong, i often are lol.
Obviously you have never designed a car or had to deal with the extra weight and mess of wires that the old wiring method had.
They had to do it this way to save wires, weight and in order to make the car intelligent.
HYUNDAI comes out of the factory like that. You get a note with every new HYUNDAI stating "Some assembly required"
Very interesting thank u Ivan,cool shirt btw👍
Amazing. Thanks Ivan!
The BCM had what is called logic lockup. It can happen when the vehicle gets a surge of current, like jump starting the vehicle. I used to work for Kia/Hyundai, and I would see this alot. By the fuse getting pulled out and put back in, the BCM got reset and now works correctly. (NORMAL)
Actually that fuse was just the ignition on fuse... The BCM thought that the car was off 😉
@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics OK, glad you figured it out. The control modules on these vehicles do lockup from weird situations. just an FYI. :)
Hyundai blower motor switches are awful; they carry the full current on inadequate switch contacts. After changing three of them I finally added in relays for each speed, thus using the control to turn on the relays to control each speed. That was the end of the problem.
Remember: Check power supply. 😬
very cool diag
i had a 05 accord that the shift solenoid would not let it out of park, looking at everything, the TPS was at 8%, the radio was not working as well but it was hot on bolth sides, pull that fuse and put it back in, suddenly it shifts out of park, the radio works, i totally get this, i hate that crap but still "no parts required"
Lol it’s okay I had a customer come In today reverse lights don’t work in reverse looked at the rear tail lamps both weren’t plugged in😂 sometimes it really is just that easy
Yes unbelievable, fricken fuse!!!
What did you charge for that?
can it turn off drl? i have a set of aftermarket headlights and they have dedicated led strip as drl so i dont need high beams as drl anymore on the new headlight both led strip and the high beam come on during the day i would like to turn off high beam as drl and have led strip alone. or turn off drl on the settings and the led would still keep getting power since its directly connected to the power, can this turn off drl?
Are those front wipers auto or manual
I got a 2013 Ford escape with a intermittent cranking problem when you go to shut the car off and you come back to the vehicle it won’t crank over you have to put the vehicle in neutral to get it to start what could that be
Park switch?
So it will start fine if you put it in neutral, but won't in park? Transmission range sensor has an issue. That one works by sending a different resistance to the ECM to tell it what position it is in. If it is mechanically going into park but will not start in park then the potentiometer inside the trans range switch is bad.
Fuses don't work their way out like that do they? Some one fumbling around in there. Good review Ivan.
Anything is possible on an auction car lol
@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics Roger that.
Hmm... what route did the bidirectional controls take? Was it just because the BCM didn't think the car was on that those things wouldn't work? I guess the bidirectional controls would have turned the components on even it the car was off then. Dangit I need a scanner. and money. probably a sandwich, too.
Probably the power feed for the relay control side was from that fuse, so with that unplugged it wasn't able to turn the relay on.
Yes,Launch diagun come with full bidirectional test features
Yay...Ivan!
the intermittent wiper not working Tucson 2013
Got to love it..
It's all made in China but we keep buying it. Is it really cheaper?
Korea
Tom Jennings north or south?
Sorry I meant God bless y'all.
Fuse was not in all the way...so amazing...something so simple.
that's what SHE said lol
Nice !
What's a "Hunday"?
Amazing👍
Insane!
took my dodge avenger for my abs light on ok my guy i have used a lot scan it an it has a c2116 code,, i knew that ,,they check all the voltages an grounds...he said it has to go to the dealer as he cant look into the abs mod ,,they have the programs to see what up....is he right ??or did he not want to fix it???
hmmm sounds like they are lazy lol
@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics it is in a bad spot ..thanks
Maybe this was just a fuse, but this type of problem illustrates that without the ability to access data in vehicle modules with a scan tool you might as well turn your shop into a convenience store. If your state has a right to repair question on the ballot this election, please support it. Don't allow car manufacturers to lock us out of this information.
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Thanks for the video!
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Dang, your timebelt is loose again on the video/audio sync. :)
grrr not sure how to troubleshoot that?
Pine Hollow Auto Diagnostics it’s a TH-cam problem.....doesn’t happen to every viewer, and may be the viewer’s internet connection
@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics Try uploading a small clip in 1080p, the same format your camcorder is recording in. If that works, then it could be your editing software when you convert the clip to 720p.
Привет Иван!
Ты видел самое новое видео Эрика (ADVANCED LEVEL AUTO)? Хотелось бы услышать, что ты думаешь, о чудо-головке для отворачивания болта коленвала. Там в комментариях, продавец этой головки написал о законе физики. Прочитай его! Ты согласен с этим?
The fuse was making just enough contact to show voltage to bcm but pitted and opened under load, crazy.
was it??? the diagram showed multiple fuses. it is very possible only part of the module was working.
I wish someone would put you in a box and send you to my home in Wales to fault find my 2009 Honda Civic diesel
It has been back to the Honda dealer three times since July with an intermittent starting fault they cannot find.
Really hard to follow what's on your tiny devices with the shaky camera.
ah sorry about that was a bit rushed in the field
@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics No worries, just providing a little feedback. Appreciate your videos.
Never buy anything designed by Kia Motor Co. As a battery tech I saw a few Kia's and Hyundai's with no crank, good battery, everything else working. Decided the problem might be a computer. Disconnected the battery for 30 seconds, hooked it back up and they started. Super sketch.
Damn first!
Check the ignition switch. Also, South Main Auto had similar multiple symptoms and the ignition switch was at fault. Possible, follow the electrons.
Here's the link. Good Luck Sir,
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Not like you to not pull the fuse to 100% verify
Those intake runners fail all the time on a Hyundai.
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You thing the switch is blown "messed up" or the control panel, yet you didn't prove it, so what do they replace? Car electronics is getting over complicated these days. What was wrong with flicking a switch and things just came on or blew the fuse. Wiring is so thin in modern cars, so much so that they have to put in relays to handle the current, I can understand why they do this for various reasons, but it has got to cost more to make than putting in a heavier wire and switch. The switches and relays maybe cost a few pennies from China, but it don't half make life difficult when things go wrong, no roadside fixes these days, so if something electrical goes wrong, dump the car and walk home, no one is going to fix it that night, even if you can get the control unit for the can in the middle of the night or someone to attend, you won't get the part, then to fix it they have to call someone out like you. You have a castle or a mansion and extravagant lifestyle to support, so it costs a lot to repair :-P
99% bad battery make similar problems mee to :-)
Do you have the box could be dead
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣a fuse? Really?
made i korea
I have no idea why... but the last half of the video had spaghetti western speech and response delays. Several seconds.
Great Diagonsics but the format made it a bit off course to heat and understand.
FYI...
hmmm must be a TH-cam glitch?
@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics i had no problems