How to work on DISPLAY and COMPETITION models Ep.1 - Sienna Starkiller / Samus
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 ก.พ. 2020
- In this first episode I talk about composition, lights and colour schemes and I focus the work on the black and white preparatory sketch!
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Marco,
Want to thank you. Your channel helps with becoming a better painter.
Great job
You totally turned me on to using oils in my painting. I have 10 oil colors now and I've even started painting small canvas' (2x3" of course). You do really good work and I hope you get some more recognition in the future!
Marco, I have been watching your videos nonstop this year and I love them. They have caused me to find a new curiosity for painting and I feel my horizons expanded infinitely. I am now hungry to be a good painter.
After seeing your takes on several 40k models, I've always wondered what you would do with something like Tau, which tends to have a very fixed style.
Awesome 😁!!! I'm so happy to hear of your new spark of inspiration 😁
Uuuh cool idea... Definitely something to add to the to do list!
Just ran across your channel while I was wandering down the 3D Printing rabbit hole, I must say you are fantastic. The overview you gave while doing the contrasting white/black priming and looking at it like a 4 frame figure, not just a 3D model are really fantastic to learn. I've not played 40k in ages and videos like this really bring me back to the days where I enjoyed painting for a relaxing weekend.
While I can't paint anymore due to medical issues; one of which is a Latex allergy, but I contacted Citadel and they confirmed that no latex is used in the pigments of their Acrylic paints. The second which is me having tremors in my hands is not so easy to fix, looking at the thought process you go through and implement the idea you have in mind is a bunch of fun.
I do have a few questions though; with armies like Eldar, where things are not mechanical, and are seemingly *very* restrictive in their color schemes, what suggestions do you have for schemes/styles? With Marines, Tau, Ork, Chaos, Tyranids, and Dark Eldar, you have a much wider set of options as machines can always be grimy, Orks/Chitin can always look slick/oily, blood splatter is a nice accent for Dark Eldar and Chaos... but, Eldar are just sorta... too neat and clean.
I did come across the Golden Demon" Large Model: Bronze - Warhammer 40,000 Open Day 2016" which introduces a style I've never seen used on Eldar, but it's *very* different (though gorgeous) from normal Eldar. What would you suggest to make Aspect warriors and such more interesting?
Marco, you are fantastic, I love how you share your knowledge with us and help to break myths and push us to try new techniques and get out of the ruts that we're in. Much Love and I hope you realize how thankful we are to have you here!
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It already looks better than my best paint job
I love how you explain your reasoning in every video, always great to watch & pick up new techniques and ideas :D
Love this video dude, great information!
I always look forward to your videos! Thank you for sharing your knowledge with us.
I just bought my first bust and this helped a lot. Looking forward to more vids from this series.
Love this new series! Looking forward for the next episode. Very informative and inspiring.
Great tips and much appreciated! Its looking great so far!
Another Masterclass level video................fabulous as always!
Even the sketch with colours looks amazing! Keen to see how this goes!
Great model and great idea for the color scheme! Can't wait to see the model finished!
Kinda mind blown right now, It's an amazing workflow and i really can't wait to see more.
Thanks Marco, i'm always looking for talented artist sharing how their work on high quality (tournament) miniz! :D I can't wait for the next episodes, thanks again big boss!
An inspiration as always man, haven't stopped messing around with the different topics you cover. Recently playing with underpainting and zenethal highlights. I've been away from the hobby for a long time. Thanks for the motivation, keep up the work sir🖖
Great video! 👍👍 looking forward to the next one.
ahhhhhhh Love your vids! keep up! thank you for everything bro!
Hi marco , I really love the black sun miniatures , I am glad you decided to have a craic at this one
Dear Marco, Absolutely outstanding work. I'm waiting with baited breath for the next episode! Kind Regards Johnny
Very helpful, I'm looking forward to painting my first large scale mini.
Thank you for opening me new horizon in miniatures painting, you are an inspiration to go further. First time I surcribe to a channel, your job is amazing, keep up !
wonderful work. the yellow coat looks like nmm gold. looking forward next episodes
Really nice video... it’s a pleasure to see how you think about the process then see it take shape. Something so often missing from other painting tutorials 👍
Great video as usual Marco!
Thanks!!! 😁
As always, great video! Your are equally inspiring as intimidating ;)
Dang that’s awesome, love the color scheme. I will be trying my airbrush soon, hopefully.
although you saved my life and hobby with the speed painting video's, I love to see this as well, and thank you for teaching me how to work with inks.
3 cheers for long near real time build and painting tutorials and a wider variety. I can't believe I just ordered a 300mm Ogre Bust. Sadly I forgot to buy a wooden plinth at the same time.
Grande Marco! video stupendo!
Grazie mille Duccio 😊😁😊!!!
Splendido topic e ottima esecuzione ;)
I am sooooooo happy to see you're back into painting larger scales on NJM. I am a display painter myself and there is not enough content for this hobby on TH-cam, so I am very much looking forwards to every episode in this series. If you stop part way through like the last guy you will break my heart!
😁😍😁 Awesome!
Don't worry I will not let you down 😉 With the last model I was rushing to prepare something for Monte San Savino and I had to stop recording because it slowed me down and I was running out of time 😅
@@MarcoFrisoniNJM that's a very good reason, and congratulations once again on your success at Monte. :)
Your ink game is on point!
Very inspiring my friend, thank you.
Veramente un bel modello, bravo
Looking forward to seeing what happens with this series! Never painted any larger scale miniatures, but will probably give it a try eventually. And my dream project from you would be to see some Blanchitsu-Lizardmen/Seraphon :)
Mike blank is a fantastic figure painter!!! I saw some of his stuff at a show in Atlanta GA. In person, his dioramas and figures are just gorgeous.
Amazing as usual. I will definitely use this approach for the model I'm working in for my first competition. I've been really thinking about colours, lighting, and basically everything you've talked about. It's a lot to take in (I dont think I'm really getting it), but I'm still learning, and trying different things.
Thank you so much for everything Obi Wan Frisoni!!! You da man!!!!
😍😍😍😍😍 Thank you sooo much!!! Keep me updated and don't hesitate to ask for advice 😉😉😉!
Great tutorial on the b/w sketch
i love the fact that you're giving a show on how you like to make art out of a mini... so many times we're given cheats or speed painting tips for minis... nobody wants to show a piece that is going to be a masterpiece! I feel like I can take this video and apply it to a character, or a diorama if i decide to do one
If you like this, I recommend checking out Vince Venturella. He also has videos on bringing your minis to the next level. Beware though, as he has very different opinions at times and it's up to you to decide what's right for you (As eith everything in life). Me personally, I love Vince, he's also super detailed and tells you WHY you're doing something, not just how. Kinda like Marco.
@@Don_Giovanni yeah i'll check Vince out! I can always appreciate differing opinions, helps broaden perspectives :)
@@Don_Giovanni just getting to his channel... i've already watched all the titles that interest me! LOL yeah he's got some goods :) Marco is still my painting spirit animal... he's showing me all the things i've always wanted to see (like oil painting and blending)
@@gogotrololo yeah, understandable. He's very upbeat. :)
The cool thing about Vince's channel is that it's like a library. Any technique you're interested in? He's probably got a video on it.
Friday, and a new Mario.. I mean Marco video! Best day of the week
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very interesting!!!
Add another thumbs up for mini variety - would love to see you cover more stuff 👍
Awesome video once again Marco! Watching it gave me the idea to use a small spray bottle with heavily diluted paint or probably ink to do the sketch and highlights since I can't afford an airbrush and maybe get some unexpected effects in the process; who knows...
14:29 thats the Point i was talking about with a guys in the comments a few days ago. It realy amazes me that u took part in our discussion and that it made it in the Video :) ❤️
😍😁 I love this to be part of a living, active back and forth between me and you! I think this is the real power of TH-cam videos
That custom liquid green stuff though. Better then spue goo. Thanks for the video those are great looking models.
Amazing as our master Marco can do ! I'll use these informations for my Savage Beauty bust from Black Suns Miniature (I've 5 miniatures from them and they are perfect !)
See ya in your next video !
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I really like your work. For the videos in the videos, you can easily do an hour or longer vids. :)
Marco, I love your videos I’ve found since watching them I have spent a large chunk of my kids inheritance on models just to test technique and colour schemes as you often discuss! Keep them coming please!!!! Also where did you get that cool electric tiny drill thingy? Many thanks- the blind painter!
😂😂😂😂😂 Thanks a million! The rotary tool is made by Proxxon, a company that makes electric tools for modelling; for me it's better than a Dremel because it can work at very slow speeds and this is good for precision and to avoid too much friction on plastic models
Hi Marco, excellent video as always! Do you use any extractor fan or ventilation while airbrushing?
Thanks! No, I usually work only on small projects and single models and I spray in a very precise and localised way so I don't feel the need for an extractor. I don't have overspray even on the cutting mat!
Great video! I'm really looking forward to the series.
How do you make your inks go on so paint-like? I just recently got my first AB, and when I have sprayed inks through it, they tend to run a lot, almost like a wash would.
Thanks!!?
Check this video
th-cam.com/video/FninJVxExlY/w-d-xo.html
The trick is all in the trigger 😉
i really wish there was an episode 2 for this
Hey Marco. Loving your videos. I had a question on the micromot rotary tool your using. Do you recommend this over a dremel? Wondering if you could do a video of the tools you use also in customizing miniatures and possible to do the job of certain hand tools easier depending on miniature material. Keep up the great work.
Thanks 😁😉!!!
Great idea!
Yeah it's rare for me but in this case I prefer a tool specifically made for modelling; you can work at a very slow speed and power and this makes your life much easier working on tiny pieces of plastic and fragile resin 😉
Glad to hear you're painting different minis - why not have a go at an army of 300 x 18mm Napoleonic figs, welcome to half my painting life.
Your videos are really astonishingly insightful, this one in particular was awesome to see on such a large scale. Does the warm black from the ink vs the cold black from the primer change anything at all for you?
Thanks!!! No, in this phase a little change in the black's temperature doesn't make any difference. This is also a way to add some "random" visual interest like when mixing colours you don't get the exact same tone but this contributes to make the scheme more interesting
When can we expect more from this series? Would love to see Ep2 and beyond.
I was preparing Samus for this year's competitions but with all the virus situation and all the events postponed I lost a bit the inspiration. But I still plan to finish model and series 😊
thnx great vid :)
Pure bomb!
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Hi Marco, love your video, love your work! Have tons of questions, but here's the most pressing: I really like your milliput+alchool trick. I'm trying to base some chainrasps to upgrade my gloomhaven monsters, and am really bothered by those gaps in the slotta bases. I know nothing about chemistry - do I need that specific type of alchool (isopropyl) to brush on milluput, or would any spirit work? Any other advice specific to slot bases gaps?
Thanks again for the great videos!
Hi! Thanks a million 😊
You can use any kind of alcohol, even the pink one from the supermarket or the methylated from the hardware store. Iso is a bit quicker and more efficient but it's still an alcohol (and Milliput is soluble in water so in emergency you can use even simple tap water). For the bases I close the gaps with a piece of paper fixed with super glue, than I hide all the crimes with the textures 😅😉
I'm always curious about the dislikes for a video. I really cant see what 4 people disliked about this video. Perhaps they didn't agree with a technical point or some such. But to dislike it? At any rate good video great content as always.
😁😅😁 I have enemies 😅! Thanks a million man 😉
great first ep. did you end up making the next vid?
Hi Marco, You are an awsome inspiration for my miniature painting! But I have one request for some new videos! Can you please paint some smaller miniatures?? I am a histoical miniatures player, and while I do have some 28mm armies (half sat waiting for painting), I mostly have a collection of 15mm and 6mm figures! It would be great to see how the techniques you show can transfer to 6mm. I know that the WSS painting channel did some 6mm French Napoleonics from Baccus miniatures a long time ago, but it is only one video and it would be great to see more!! But still thanks again for the great tips and videos :D
Hi! Thanks a million 😊!!! It could be a very very very interesting topic, thanks for the idea 😉 it's officially in the to do list!
Marco, could you explain why you prime with molotow refills? I've never seen it before. Your videos are great, you do so much different and interesting stuff.
Sure! Molotow paints are great because they are super fluid, ready for brush and airbrush, with an EXTREME covering power and very tough and resistant because they are originally made for street art and graffiti!
They are difficult to use for transparent effects and almost impossible to use for glazing but they are a great great tool for priming and to set the base tones 😊
Thanks for this - what is the stuff you use to stick the model to the wooden painting handle?
It's a pleasure! It's butyl, usually used to fix and seal windows and car glasses 😁
Bravissimo! (Grazie per avermi consigliato tempo fa il molotow nero come primer, mi piace un sacco e risparmio in bombolette spray :-) )
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Samus! You're tugging on my heartstrings now, better not mess this up mister. 😍Seriously, though the series couldn't arrive at a better time. I have 3 display pieces planned for this year, I'm not even gonna bother counting how many times I rewatch this series.
😁😍😁 I'll make her justice I promise 😉
Hey i love your videos , i watch them sometimes several times to see everything well. Love your channel .
I have a suggestion for a future video. I am currently trying to paint my myrmoun banshees from the Nighthaunt army, but they are in my opinion a nightmare (pun intended) to paint in an interesting way. I really didn’t find any inspiration for them. The large surfaces that have barely any details just don’t catch the eye, maybe you could think of something that could make this model more interesting than just blending 2~3 colours across the myrmoun banshee?
I really dig the way the sketch comes out with an airbrush - One thing... I was checking my liquitex red inks, and both of mine (pyrrole red and naphthol crimson) are both labeled as transparent... did they change them up a bit when they updated the packaging?
Thanks!!!
😅 Really strange! I not totally sure and I'm going to check, but it's more likely that they made different levels of opacity for the same tone
Ciao Marco,
Great video as usual. Many thanks.
May I ask you if you have any link for molotow colors, specially for Amazon if you have a shared link so I can support you buying them?
If it is not possible could you please tell me what to search for? Should I look for molotow one4all refill?
Hi! Thanks a million!
Thanks for the kind thought 😊 but the best source for Molotow paints is the original website www.molotow.com or the online shop of CassArt.
Yes, One4All refill; you can buy every colour in the big 180ml bottle or the 30ml tubes
Great video Marco,Sienna remember me Emily Blunt in Edge of Tomorrow babe badass character.
Happy you are going to show resin kit in future videos !
About gloss black,i'm looking for a gloss black with the best mirror effect possible in a Dark Vador project figure..do you have please any advice of best produces or varnish to achieve this result,thanks a lot !😊❤
Thanks!!! That was one of the looks I considered for her!
I went with Samus to paint something cleaner 😉
To make a proper gloss effect the best solution is to use a good varnish on top because it's very difficult for a simple colour to arrive to that kind of glossiness.
Probably Tamiya gloss varnish is the best in this case since it's used for automotive/car body effects
@@MarcoFrisoniNJMThanks a lot Marco,i will try Tamiya,have bough some Createx colors too for the gloss black..
On the other side i have just received the new AK third gen too,almost 90 bottles to complete the Vallejo,looks a very good acrylics !
@@jorey4565 Cool! I'm very curious to try the new AK paints, I've already heard some good reviews from friends
Awesome video as always Marco! Also got my first large scale mini, so lots of great tips in this one! One question I do have is, that you don't seem to be using a traditional primer paints, is there any reasoning behind that?
Thanks!!!
I like to use Molotow One4All Black because it's super fluid, ready for the airbrush, doesn't cover the details even with thick applications and since it's made for street art and murals it's extremely resistant!
@@MarcoFrisoniNJM Thanks a million for the reply! Makes sense :) keep up the amazing work!
Are you going to get back to these types of videos? I'd love to see you finish this model.
@marco please can you tel me the name of those little metal bowls for mixing paint? They have a litte lip to pour out paint too
Hi! The paint trays/wells come from companies like Tamiya, MrHobby, UStar, (now also AK Interactive has its own ak-interactive.com/product/modeling-paint-wells/ ). You can find them in any model shop or with better prices on eBay (sadly I still don't have a stable and safe link to share); my stash is a souvenir from Korea 😅
was there ever a second part of this?
Recently picked and master grade gundam kit for something different, the build process is super enjoyable but the painting process seems to be oriented around enamels and lawyers. I would be curious to see your techniques applied to a model of that sscale and some advice on how to avoid enamels and laquers as I am still a brush painter and do not have the facility for dealing with the toxicity of the enamels etc
Cool topic!
And I always painted Gunpla with acrylics so perfect to solve your problem 😁
@@MarcoFrisoniNJM I'd love to see you work your magic man, I'll stay tuned 🖖
the little metal pourer you use for milliput, could you possibly point us to an Amazon link to those please, they look super helpful.
The paint trays/wells come from companies like Tamiya, MrHobby, UStar, (now also AK Interactive has its own ak-interactive.com/product/modeling-paint-wells/ ). You can find them in any model shop or with better prices on eBay (sadly I still don't have a stable and safe link to share); my stash is a souvenir from Korea 😅
@@MarcoFrisoniNJM Thanks :)
Very good video, are you Italian?
Hi marco, can you suggest something i can buy in italy that does the same job of the black material you used to temporarly fix the model to the paint stand?
Hi! There's an Amazon link in the video's description 😉
Wow, you’re sketch is better than my final paint jobs! 😂 the only think I didn’t particularly like is the blue/turquoise on her bum.. I don’t think it deserves to pop out so much.. maybe the red or orange would work better?
Question, I have had my liquitex red ink pull back into puddles after spraying it on top of liquitex white ink that had cured for sometime (~1 week). Specifically, it sprayed on beautifully, but it slowly went from a clean uniform thin coat to random puddles in recess. Curious what you think that could be attributed to? The red ink had been diluted with Vallejo flow improver and water.
Flow improver breaks the surface tension, which would encourage movement into recesses without leaving much of a layer elsewhere. I imagine airbrush thinner or isopropyl will produce a different results entirely
@@TAP7a I think I accidentally contaminated it with a different thinner, in between models. I spray oils, enamels, and acrylics (different brushes, different times), but my label for lacquer thinner rubbed off and I think added some. It's the only way I can recreate the effect I caused.
In minute 08:53 are you using some kind of software to study the light projection?
I have been really enjoying your videos, I love them and they motivate me a lot to keep on painting miniatures. Thanks for sharing!
Marco, what are the names of some good companies that make these sized minis? I found the one your painting on the Black sun minis site but what are the good alternatives?
There are a ton of companies making this kind of models!
Here just few names that pop randomly in my mind;
Kimera/Pegaso, Aradia, Nuts Planet, Robot Rocket, Neko Galaxy, FeR Miniatures, Figone, Terrible Kids Stuff...
@@MarcoFrisoniNJM thanks Marco, I shall be taking a look. :)
Btw I tried an air brush to create the old greenish tmm gold from your video. Damn it was hard but after a lot of goes I got the result I wanted :) Ty m8
Do you also soft spray white when you go for a black scheme?
Yes, but in that case white is just a light mist to create a bit of volumes
Blacksun miniatures are on my radar all the time, but they have a lot of out of stock minis I want sadly. (for example the guardian, she-ork and savage beauty)
Yeah they tend to do limited runs for every piece so if you like something better buy it immediately when it comes out!
Great video. I always chuckle a bit, though, when folks talk about doing really "big" models like 75mm scale; I came to the painting hobby via garage kits and only started dabbling with gaming miniatures much later. Any experience with painting models cast in 1/8 or 1/6 scale? Think you'll ever do videos on garage kit figures or is that too niche of a topic?
Thanks!!! Oh yeah as I said at the beginning of the video, you'll see a lot of different stuff in the future and resin/garage kits are part of the plan 😉 I did a lot of anime figures in 1:8/1:6 scale in the past; I'm looking for a source of superheroes figures at the moment... Do you have any hint?
@@MarcoFrisoniNJM If you search Facebook for a guy who goes by "Marco Art," he does some really incredibly well-cast superhero garage kits in 1:6 scale. I've gotten his Nebula and Alita kits and the quality is fantastic. These days there are also a ton of great options if you're willing to 3D-print the model or know someone who can print it for you, and with resin printing the quality can be just as high as with a cast garage kit.
@@IsenMike Thank you soooo much man!
Do you know if I can use Magic sculpt (from greenstuffworld) the same way as you use milliput? I ask cause I have Magic Sculpt but would need to buy milliput.
Being a soft epoxy putty it should work in the same way!
What % isopropyl do you use if it matters?
99,9%! But it's relatively important here, even 70% is enough for a smooth suspension
What green did you use on the blade?
Deep Turquoise for the blade and Fluorescent Green on the lights!
Ciao Marco, forse mi sono perso un pezzo per strada :D Il white spirit che usi è la stessa cose dell'alcol isopropilico?
Ciao! No il white spirit é acquaragia inodore!
Ecco svelato l'arcano! Grazie, sempre gentilissimo ;)
Hi Marco! Can I please ask you something about using inks? I have started experimenting with inks using my (new!) airbrush, I primed the models Molotov Black, then zenithal white, then blue ink from below and yellow from above.
Even though I left the models overnight (plenty of time to dry), when I came to apply contrast paints and GW washes over the ink layer, it rubbed away down to the bare plastic, even stripping the primer with only a tiny bit of physical pressure from the brush.
Can you advise me why this is happening and how to stop it?
Thank you in advance Sensei!
Assuming you were using acrylic inks, it sounds like the model had mold release agent that needed cleaned off before priming. Dish soap should work well.
I tend to agree with Justin.
It's a strange situation because you took off not only the layer of inks but also a very tough and solid primer. Do you add solvents or flow improver in your inks?
Thank you both for your replies!
I used the inks straight out of the pot, and I was painting the wurmspat models for warhammer underworlds, which I believe should have no problems with release agents that need to be cleaned.
I have a new theory... That I didn't properly spray out the airbrush cleaner before adding the inks? It's the only thing I can think of! More experiments required...
Cheers :)
Zenithil highlighting with a brush... how please show us.
A good start waiting for a dedicated video 😉th-cam.com/video/pWojUQsVoKk/w-d-xo.html
The same as cooking good food. If you prepare well...
With a channel name like Not Just Mecha, theres a distinct lack of Gunpla on this channel.
Yeah I know, I also feel the need to bring back more mechs in my life 😁
wait, you love jumping around minis you paint? you mean its not just mecha?
Me like! Me wait for next one! Me like drug addict now!
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you can not just make a video like this and let us wait for the other parts, thats mean... :P
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Ok il tuo inglese è molto bene ma si sente lo stesso che sei italiano
Grazie! 😅 Non ho mai cercato di nasconderlo (anche perché é proprio impossibile 😅)!