Does CIMOOOOOOOO Know BLACKWING Rulings? | Yu-Gi-Oh Ruling Quiz
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Thanks again for having me! ❤️
Well done, Mr.Cimo we underestimated you very much, we got a worthy reality check.
Hope to see you with more yugitubers
You rule, man, it's always cool to see you collaborating with other yugitubers.
He responded, hello Alex cimo
Cimooo you where so polite and wholesome. This was awesome tbh
Man, Cimo’s so good at playing the villian that it’s easy to forget what a great guy he is. Very fun episode! :)
Well said my man, most of us rooting for gage evey week made us forget that hes actually a super nice guys and great part of this community
I think its a sign of respect to not hold back and play at your fullest. I don’t know why people have a problem with it he’s just plays the best he can always
@@ivanlovera4567 yeah just when he sided out his master peaces lol
@@ivanlovera4567 I know my frustration is less about Cimo trying to win and more about how unfair Prog feels a lot of the time lol. Gage could be Jesse Kotton himself, but when he pulls no Knightmare Unicorn, no Galatea, no Master Peace, no Twin Twister, etc etc etc etc etc…. I feel like it’s totally fair to feel frustrated, even though it’s not Cimo’s fault that he’s so lucky and Gage isn’t.
@@DCpwnz It's Gage's own fault for not even trying to play anti-meta against blackwings every week tbh. Cimo did it whe he had to deal with CED and DAD and there is no shame in doing so.
Love that the dude constantly jokes about worshiping the Monarchs like a cultist but he's still The Black Wings Guy because of sheer memes
There is another big yugituber who more deserving title of monarch king. The madman bring monarch to second place in EU remote duel invitational last year. He is lithium2300.
May I introduce you to our lord and savior raiza
@@absentmindedshirokuma8539 I pray to lithium2300 every night.
Ether Stormforth is love, Ether Stormforth is life.
Why don't we play Blackwing?
I do but most people don't play them because most people don't wanna get creative and come up with their own ideas
@@deanoor9391 it’s a meme dude
Copium...
i would love to like your comment but funny number
@@Alex-gw6ie Ehh, it's already gone, I missed it :(
Glad you used the correct ammount of "O"s in the title!
Copy and paste
@@jasonfreitas6845 No, Coder counted the number of "O"s in Cimo's name so he could get the number correct in the title
no need to count or copy if you already know there are 8 os , just oooooooo spam the key, much faster than faffing about
This shows that Cimo knows his rulings, he just needs to read his cards
It feels appropriate that this episode is the longest one
29:42 Coder's reactions to Cimo's thought process is giving me life LMAOOOO
Yo pk! I'm an avid viewer since 2013! I'm so sad you don't make many videos anymore, I hope you and your family are doing well.
I'm surprised we rarely get a Cimo-Coder collab these days considering it was how Coder was introduced (to me, at least) to YugiTubing community through Cimo's video.
Coder plays modern Yugioh but Cimo doesn’t, that’s probably why
@@alexzhang3870 I feel like Cimo would if live Events were a thing. Before covid his content was a lot of current YGO. But that's just my guess
@@shakeweller Also we can take into consideration that Cimo wasnt invited to the 2019 World Championship because Konami ban him from their list of content creators to partnership with and therefore that limits the amount of occacions Kevin and Cimo can participate together
@@davidbrenese why did they ban cimo?
@@Shinypokemon77 for saying constantly to buy singles instead of sealed product. That was Cimo´s explanation
Cimo is the type of guy in school exams "I havent study at all, Im gonna get a D"
Then gets an A and gets upset that wasnt an A+
Duel logs: normal monster rulings
Alex Cimo the master of birbs, even if he doesn't know new ones were released and are amazing after 2009!
I think Cimo deserves half a point for the last question. If other contestants have been able to score partial points then Cimo getting half of the cards correctly means he should have ended with a 6.5 out of 8.
That'd be fair imo. Honorary 6.5 to me
Same with a 5.5 for MBT on that one ruling with Wingman he got partially right
I think if he had 3 / 4 correct, half a point would be ok but 2 / 4 especially with the hand card saying you control if quite miserable actually.
2/4 is what you would expect for completely blind guessing on four yes/no questions. I don't think it deserves the half point.
@@jkid1134 oh sure, he definitely blind guessed the one on the synchro monster without a reason whatsoever
You know, all memes aside, Cimoooooo was really good on stream, very wholesome and fun watching this live!
Ah the iconic cimo laugh never fails to amaze me
Hahahhhahaha,thats a really good one
I hope all the Monday andys are happy now that Alex got more than Farfa
The tests also vary and it is hard to determine who could be good enough to become a judge, but for the sake of comparison Cimoooooooo is tied for 1st place despite probably not being the most knowledgeable.
Who is? That's the real question.
@@Goblin_Hands Tied for 2nd with Gage. Fitting
Farfas questions were way harder
20:40 You can see Cimo and the emotes in synergy with each other lol
Let’s go Hardleg Joe with Crystrons! Or Duellogs with Custom Cards.
Bro Custom Cards rulings will be wild
I would love to see hardleg, he's so funny
Duel Logs should be law of the normal/normal monsters rulings
Not sure if Hardleg is a good choice for a ruling video, cuz he's as casual as you can get
@@AlexisVolk97 Nibiru and Maxx C rulings only
Honestly after thinking about this, it might be a fun idea to maybe try to get someone from a different card game (like Magic) to see how well they can do basically using card text to decipher rulings. I don't play Yu-Gi-Oh but I love to watch it but I do heavily play magic so I have fun pausing and trying to figure out how the rulings might break down
This is a very good idea but I am guessing that it would be very hard for them. For example, concepts like "miss timing" will NEVER be in your head until either someone tell you about it or you look it up from the rulebook/internet. I doubt anyone can suddenly know the "miss timing" just from reading the card text
@@hirukashiro5995 oh for sure, especially that one cuz that concept doesn't apply in something like Magic (the closest thing is something like t3fari and casting off another spells effect).
But I think that might be a fun little way to kinda introduce those concepts to people who don't really play. I stopped playing Yu-Gi-Oh back when Ancient Sanctuary came out, so I'm suuuuper rusty but I like rules interaction things
Someone whos a magic player and has never played yugioh might struggle with many decks' basic combos, nevermind the more obscure rulings.
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For example, Salamangreat Spinny has the effect: "If you control a 'Salamangreat' monster other than 'Salamangreat Spinny' and this card is in your GY: You can Special Summon this card, but banish it when it leaves the field.".
As part of the standard Salamangreat combo, you would summon back Spinny, use it to xyz summon Miragestallio, then link Miragestallio off.
Naiively a Magic player might think Spinny gets banished (exiled) at some point during this combo, but it just ends up back in the graveyard. This is because becoming an xyz material doesn't count as leaving the field, but xyz materials are not on the field.
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Another example would be in Shaddoll, which often play Super Poly. Super Poly's effect is: "Discard 1 card; Fusion Summon 1 Fusion Monster from your Extra Deck, using monsters from either field as Fusion Material.". Maindeck Shaddoll monsters all have the effect: "If this card is sent to the GY by a card effect: {insert effect here}". Let's say you use Super Poly, discarding a Shadoll Hedgehog to fusion summon using Shadoll Beast and another monster as material.
A Magic player might naively think both Beast and Hedgehog trigger here, but only Beast triggers. This is because Beast was sent as part of the effect, but Hedgehog was sent as part of the cost; and maindeck Shadoll monsters need to be sent by card *effect*.
@@IamGrimalkin well, yeah I mean people who've been playing Yu-Gi-Oh forever are kinda struggling to be fair lol. It's more just an idea to see how it could compare. Obviously some of the rulings are just really really hard to figure out, but I'd be curious if someone with an outside perspective could compare (or fail miserably)
@@IamGrimalkin they'd probably struggle with trigger effects _period._ unlike chains, the stack in mtg never "finishes building" - you can play cards and activate abilities at any point in the process of building and resolving the stack, provided you aren't in the middle of resolving a card or ability, and trigger abilities are triggered the _moment_ their conditions are met and added to the stack as soon as possible. which, as mentioned, is any point where a card or ability isn't in the middle of resolving
in fact, they're added to the stack even if _the player doesn't want to activate them._ instead, optional trigger abilities are _optional to resolve._ which results in the kinda wonky effect where if that optional trigger ability has targets and / or multiple modes, you declare those things as you add the ability to the stack as normal, even if you don't actually intend to use the ability when the time comes
so, yeah, missing the timing not only doesn't exist in mtg - it flat-out _can't,_ because the mechanics that lead to it in ygo are just non-existent in mtg due to the difference in how they handle playing and resolving cards as a response
“Oh alex you and those Blackwings”
"Ah i knew u would be back on those wings"
16:05 children’s card game everyone. Children’s card game
"It remembers the -200 so despite having 0 atk, if you increased it by 1000 afterwards it would go to 800"
Wait what, what do you mean it remembers negative???
Yes. Yugioh makes sense 🤡
Exactly what he said. It may lose only 500 and burn for 500 since you can’t have a negative attack value, but that doesn’t change the “lose 700 ATK” modifier applied to the card.
So the value of a monster's stat can't go below 0. But if a monster remembers that it should be below 0, then if you activate an effect that would raise its stat again, it has to cover that bonus amount that it lost, before it can start going above 0 again. I think Coder did a good job explaining it. If you have, for instance, a 1000 atk point monster that then loses 1500 atk by card effects, for the purpose of battle etc, it would be 0. It can't be negative in that regard. But if you then tried to bring it back up using cards like Ego Boost, Blustering Wind, Axe of Despair etc, it doesn't add back up from 0, it adds back up from -500, because of the extra -500 Atk that it lost.
Does that make any sense?
This, funnily enough, used to come up in Duel Links a lot with stuff like Wall of Disruption. Monsters can't have negative attack, but they remember how much extra attack they should have lost.
So in the case with Dragong in the video, it would have 0 attack but remember that its attack was reduced by an extra 200. If you were to equip it with Axe of Despair, for example, its attack would go up to 800, not 1000, because Axe of Despair has to technically cancel out the -200 attack first. This stuff is really wonky, but Yugioh is a wonky game lol
The 700 atk loss is lingering, meaning the amount of atk loss via that effect will always attempt to be 700 even if it can't be 700, thus if the monster gains more atk to bring it up above 700 total atk, that atk loss from the dragon will still attempt to be 700
Cimo and Gage: Yo Distant can we get an obscure ruling on double ballpark?
Distant: Sure just show up on my show you busy man
Cimo: No problem my dude
tbh it’s pretty obvious if your a competitive player
It's funny because I just came from Cimo's channel where he had how Relinquished worked ENTIRELY wrong, and now this.
I think Cimo did 7/8 because he got half of 2 question correct and Coder has given half points before so Cimo at least to me is 7
Maybe not for Question 2 but for Question 8 it was definitely worthy of the 0.5 points
Very glad you made this episode, good job coder, tuned in as soon as I saw it as always, keep up the great work
Who needs deep game knowledge when you can simply double kalut your opponent? If you don't believe me ask gage
I love this series I've learned so much from all your content, but this is the most enjoyable. Thank you and your guests.
he unironically put a prankids question, a frog question, a yang zing question, and a burning abyss question in 1 question in a blackwing ruling
Duel Logs with Empty Jar deck (or any other gimmick deck)
DuelLogs with The Law of the Normal rulings
Love your content! I love blackwings as well, and found it funny you decided to put Cimoooooooo to the test on this one. Keep up the great work! go for it Cimoooooooo!
Cimo is such a nice guy! I loved this
I‘ll go to my first locals soon and I’m going to use Blackwings. This was actually kinda useful for me
YOU ACTUALLY GOT HIM ON?!
It was a shock for everyone
Makes you wonder where that Rumor came from. Every was saying, “he reached out to Cimo but Cimo is dodging him, not replying to be on the show” 😒
@@JohnnyVasquez8 Distant said on stream it literally took gage and house of champs to constantly pester cimo to finally answer coder
@@rattyfatty246 calling him Distant is cursed
@@rattyfatty246 I get that but it’s still not dodging DC making people think they aren’t cool or anything. I’m sure Cimo has a crazy schedule. 😬
Very awesome and educating video! I just learned a thing or two about my favorite archetype in Yugioh. 👍💯
The fact that cards remember negative attack and defense values but they don't apply in damage calculation is really weird.
I think about it like the monster's ATK isn't a "Final ATK" but rather a constant "Current Attack-X". In other words, it is a formula and not a constant in terms of effects rather than costs. Also, anything new applies after the first modifier unless it is a Shrink.
its official, coder has gotten more attention from cimo in the last year than farfa Sadge
Farfa content are a joke after all
Farfa is borderline brain dead, you realize this don’t you?
Why does Cimo have such a good evil laugh?
I loved seeing Cimo doing a 180 on the zephyros question 😂😂
my favorite series! keep it up!
Very informative as always. Used as material only applies on success and ATK loss is constant, even if it reaches 0.
Gale setting ATK is even more interesting if the monster had gained a temporary boost greater than it's ATK, so for example something equipped with Mage Power or United We Stand; if a 1000ATK monster gains 3000ATK/DEF off of Mage Power or a 4000 boost from United We Stand, it will become halve of 4k or 5k even if cards controlled changes or one leaves the field, aka a permanent Boost off of Gale.
Can we have Ruggles on for a ruling quiz about Infernoble Knights? I feel like he would be really qualified to talk about Infernoble rulings after his last duel against Mario xD
OG SHIT, this is the episode I was looking forward the most
Excelent serie, i love it and learn a lot. Keep do in it
I've played this deck way too much, 8/8, last question got me good but in the end, I was right about the synchro and well... Nobody plays the one he held in hand so it was the real wrench in the whole thing for me xD
Well
I got 8/8 too :)
A Cimo collab? Nice! He did good. Though I do think he should have ended with 6.5 if we're giving other contestants half points for getting parts of the question correct. As Cimo said for the last question, he got 2 out of the 4 things correctly so he was half right. Maybe his score can be updated in a future episode like you've done with Dzeef's score.
For anyone (like me) coming from the future, it looks the answer to question 1 has actually changed. In its 2022 printing, Sirocco's effect was changed from a condition written as a separate sentence, to an "also" which is part of the ATK gain effect.
The “if you control” text reminds me of catching a pass in American football. You need to have both feet hit the ground when you catch the ball and if it gets knocked out of your hands or you go out of balance before both feet are planted you never “controlled” it. God I love yugioh
you gotta get Ed Edd & Edison on here
Fun fact Effect Veiler was used by Yusei Fudo. So it's a pretty old card
Amazing video! Hmmm, maybe Sir Emanon and Lunalight next?
Episode where everyone wanted and everyone needed.
Been waiting for 3 days for this lets go
We need more of these
Yessir I've been waiting for this!
These videos are great in learning rulings
I managed to guess the stat modifier question correctly due to my experience with playing white arua dolphin in duel links. Although the wording on dolphin is a little different, so the ruling would have another explaination.
The simoon one too was easy thanks to duel links XDXD
Yeah that's what I got too lol. I did play Gale before and noticed that exact same situation happened except for the fusion monster(It's Aleister so it's always that fire fusion)
Same, I remember using Gale on a Red-Eyes slash equipped with multiple power of guardians, the PoG's kept gaining counters but the Red-Eyes slash didn't gain any attack 😛
Now we need a question video with Lithium2300 with monarchs :D
This series is soooo freaking good 🔥🔥❤️🙏🏽
I knew question 2 from playing Joker’s Straight in my Holtacie deck xD
the first ruling reminds me of playing yugioh irl with people. theyd summon quickdraw synchron with something that negates its effect, then try to synchro with it into anything that doesnt require a synchron...
Never expected to see cimooo being a blackwing player
Of course the longest ruling quiz video is going to be with Cimo.
Talky man
Are you surprised after he managed to stretch a 13 min banlist reaction video
The don juan with dinos would be pog
That's a really good one
I love the cimo spam in the chat doesn't get any better then that
Will a restriction similar to that in question 1 still apply if the activation gets negated, instead of the entire effect, like if you strike it?
The zephyros ruling came up for me in a duel. My opponent had a destrudo summoned by its effect and tried to summon red eyes darkness metal dragon by banishing destrudo, which is not a legal move since destrudo can’t be banished for the summoning condition
Of course, the episode with Talky man is LOOONG as heck. Lol
Came for card rulings on an archetype I used to really like back when I was more actively into YGO, stayed for finding out what a cool little dude Dragong is
I got the ATK modification question but I missed the Fleur one. Crazy
What a cluster of an end question
16:39 this, this is the reason why Inverse Universe is such a underrated card
Sorry if I sound like a simp but Cimo is hands down a great person!! So polite, well spoken, pretty humble in the Yugioh YouTubing world. Many might disagree but I truly think he’s the best yugituber for more reasons that one. 🙏🏾
That last question was the Endgame of rulings.
The gale question is a weird one: The debuff is permantent and is half of the attack and defense of the card. The reason I know about it is because of edison forcing me to learn about it because Blackwing and Vayu turbo are the 2 best decks, and the buff is something you have to interact with quite often, specially if you play something like absolute zero with deep sea diva. The answer for both are 1550.
lets goooooooo its out
Considering the gale and Aleister ruling, you mentioned it "freezes" its ATK to a specific value, but what would happen if the opponent would activate another Aleister after the ATK was reduced by gale, would it still go up to 2550 or stay at 1550?
On Q6 with the Fleurdelis activating and resolving in the hand: is it considered to resolve in hand because it says “then”? So if it said “summon, also/also after that, negate” would it gain a counter?
no. first off, "also, after that" is basically "also" with "then" timing, so if it _was_ a timing thing, that wording would also avoid the counter anyway
secondly, consider that full armor master says "on _that_ opponent's monster" - meaning, _that_ card instance that activated the effect. what's happening is that the fleurdelis in your opponent's hand _is_ activating its effect and getting noticed by full armor master, but then that "fleurdelis in your opponent's hand" disappears from the game state and the physical card instead represents a "fleurdelis on your opponent's field." it's the same reason why you can flip deep dark trap hole on your opponent's cyber dragon, but then they flip tyrant's tummyache or whatever to tribute the cydra and it doesn't end up banished. it's not because the cydra no longer met deep dark's target requirements - that thing doesn't even target in the first place - but rather, because the cydra in the gy is no longer _that_ cydra you activated deep dark in response to, so deep dark no longer sees it as something to banish
Nope the conjunctions don't matter.
Every single card in this game resolve their effect where they activated. That's it.
If the summon of an Xyz is negated, are the Xyz materials treated as being sent from field to GY?
I don't think there's any effect that specific mentions being sent from "Xyz material to GY", but would they be considered for that if the Xyz summon was negated?
This series should have been called Reversal Quiz
Negative Atk are very interesting. This actually came up with honest against abyss actor
Just to get the atk modifier ruling right....
Let's say it was in a different way...first gale effect halving the atk of Sanwitch to 1050 and then Aleister is activated...the atk of Sanwitch is 2050 until end of turn, right?
Just curious, if I got it right.
3:05 "if veiler hits on sirocco" let's take this quote out of context I want to see art of this
I knew the Sanwich question simply because I lost an argument on reddit once when Towers Turbo was a deck and someone claimed Diamond Crab King was an out to Towers. Basically, if a card's attack (and only it's attack, not it's original attack) "becomes" another value it ignores all effects that were applying beforehand, including lingering and continuous effects
I almost got the last question, sadly cimo caught the one thing I missed about Chidori, the Rain Sprinkling: It doesnt need to be under your control to trigger. But sadly I would have said nothing triggers due to the various rulings as explained in the video. So close!
That last question is some duel academy finals exam question holy moly
Sparks a question, if u pay life points for cost that kills you and then chain an effect as chain link 2 to gain ur life higher than what the cost in chain link 1 was, do you still live?
Hey Coder you forgot to mention why you have chosen those 3 Blackwing monsters to be in the graveyard at the final question HAHAHA i was really excited for the answer but unluckily you both overlooked it at the end 😪😂
Btw I love this format plzzz keep on doin it 🙏🏻❤️🥰
I used to think I was bad at Yugioh Rulings, but after getting 6-8 out of 8 on almost all of these videos I now feel much better about my yugioh rulings knowledge.
Loved it give Cimo half a point for the last one lps
Getting the Sanwitch one right feels so nice -w-
I love these ruling Videos. Can u do an episode with RevZ and maybe Melffy (or anything from his From Scratch Series)?
I CANT BELIEVE YOU ACTUALLY GOT HIM HERE
Holy shit,he can actually read!
Yoo, Cimo finally replied to that message! That's insane!
The only thing I got wrong was the archfiend effect. When effects are so weird.
Aw, I knew question 5's answer very clearly but I can see how many people would get confused
All this time monsters remembered negative atk points? that's wild
Love this series. You should try to get tombox on here with ABC