Its wierd that a place like California has a quality item like this to protect the things they detest the most. Definitely going to be looking into doing a room like this. O know this is a stupid question but I'm assuming there is some sort of ventilation in there just in case?
10 gauge so what 15 minutes with a $20 dollar grinder and pack of cut off wheels form harbor freight per thickness. for true protection you will need 1/2 hardened steel followed by 1/2" of stainless steel . In my opinion.
Lol well it's 2 layers of 10 gauge steel. But yea of course any door can be cut through if you have the proper tools. I'm sure you have a door with 1/2in of hardened steel...I'm sure you also took out a second mortgage to pay for something like that!
I agree, 10 gauge is no more protection than a steel service door. This $2,300 door is just like all the other “safes” that give you the illusion of safety. I own a Champion, and will be using a Ft Knox door when building my gun room.
@@penniesfromheaven2511 I agree! I have an Amsec BF2 series and I have high piece of mind that my stuff is protected. It would take a crook a ton of work to access it. Not like this cheap crap from box stores. Most safes are pure junk. Fort Knox, Amsec, Brown safe, etc. are the only way to go. And hell, if you’ve got the coin, drop it on a Grafunder!!
The door is fantastically engineered. And you did a great demonstration of it. However if I see something like this attached to cinder block walls.... I'm breaking through the walls using a simple sledge hammer. The room is only as secure as it weakest point!
Don't know how long it would take you to hammer through solid filled and rebar reenforced block...but I don't think it would be that easy! And certainly more difficult than 2x4s and sheetrock! And the chances of them having a sledge hammer with them and time enough to break through without getting shot.....slim
@@PilotPatriot O I didn't know it was reinforced with rebar and fully filled with concrete! Great design! I hope to have a room just like this in my home one day! I enjoyed the video!
@@PilotPatriotI was a Mason for 9 years. Cinderblock walls are not normally filled solid and dont have rebar throughout the entire wall unless special requested. They will have this tiny thin steel every so many block layers. It would take me about 10 minutes with a sledge to get through a normal cinderblock wall, maybe faster. I'm pretty certain a cutting tool can get through the door. You need 1/4 inch steel plate minimum to slow down cutting tools and force them to use a torch. While this door is better made than alot of safes it still gives a false sense of security in my opinion. Theres a company in Florida that makes a safe that hands down has a better door than this in every way for a similar price. If they can make an entire safe with steel plate this company is ripping people off with 10 gauge steel.
@@outdoorsliving464 Your key statement there is unless special requested...of course if you are building a room like this it makes since to request your blocks be filled and reinforced! This door display was built by the company with that in mind and it's also recommended by the company for it to be done that way! Please note that this door has 2 layers of 10ga steel not just 1. Also as I've said many times on this video and in other safe reviews...all doors can be compromised if you have to proper tools to do it. I garantee 99% of your home invaders do not carry along a grinder and cutting torches or a sledge hammer for that matter. They are smash and grab incidents , in and out in 10 minutes or less. As another commenter pointed out you also have to find the door/safe before you can ATTEMPT to break into it! I'd love to see a link to this safe that is so much better for the same price! Id will admit, I won't believe it until I see it! There are of course better safes/doors out there but are usually all thousands and thousands of dollars more expensive. Thanks for watching and you bring up good points! Don't forget to request that the wall be reinforced folks!!
A door like that does not mean much if you can go through the wall to get in the safe room. My safe room is lined with steel plate to prevent all of that.
The review is of the door not the room but of course you are right. Did you miss the part about it being a solid filled and rebar reenforced concrete room ?
I liked your video and if i ever had the need for home security like this, I’d consider your firm. Reading the various comments’ concerning specs & prices, I can only imagine what a typical bank spends for one of their branch safes. Whew, must be a $ million dollars?
Do the bars on the hinge side help lock it when it’s fully installed? Just curious because it looked like they didn’t move to help secure it closed when you were inside. Awesome video guys, thanks!
Looks good. But I'm kinda confused about the hinges? You said if you want it as a shelter you should have a door that swings in. Does that mean you make doors with the hinges facing inside?
They make this same door as an In-Swing door, not sure what the difference in hinges is. The reason I say an In-swing is ideal for a shelter is because nothing can block the door from opening if it is an in swing....you wont get trapped inside if the house collapses in front of the door
I'm considering buying one of these. Does anyone know if the exposed part of the 1.5 inch bolts lugs are chrome plated SOLID STEEL, or if they are just plastic/chrome plated plastic covers that make them "look" 1.5 inches thick? I've seen some safe companies try to pull off the Heavy bolt lug look with plastic chrome shrouds over tiny lugs...
I bought my house but the sealer of the sealer left the homeland safe without the combination number what should I do in my situation ? Thank you for advice
I don't get these safe doors? its build between brick or concrete wall, which takes less than 10 minutes to get through?? anyone answers on why they don't coat the inside of the safe room with additional metal or other safe material??
A security log door is only as good as the walls that is mounted in! At the wall the floor or the ceiling are weak then your door is useless. If I was a criminal trying to access your secured room as I saw one of those doors there first thing that I was thinking about is how can I bypass the door can I go through the walls can I go through the ceiling or under the floor
Do another video if you haven't already but with the safe door "hidden" from view. Just as having a gun safe in a traditional "box" format...it's too obvious. Intruder sees safe? Will try to force it open or force home owners to open it. One oway or another theyll get to the contents. Best to use "hidden doors" so that any intruders will walk right past the "gun vault room"...which could function as a "panic room" for family...as you have no idea how many intruders there are in the house and/or outside. Chances are there will be only one family member experienced with firearms...won't h ave an "army". :) 1 against many (unknown 3's) is a NO WIN.
😱 FAIL 😱 You simply bash your way through the cinderblock wall in under a minute. Need 18-24” cement with steel rebar reinforced walls and ceiling to resolve this. Even then, cement crumbles when hit repeatedly with a sledgehammer. Need steel plating all the way around within the cement itself.
@@PilotPatriot I would say the vast majority of American houses have internal drywall. You would need to have your room built with concrete blocks for this to be worth it
@@humphrey4976 duhh! Lol. If ur gunna install a door like this you obviously need to beef up walls too! You could build concrete wall inside the existing walls, or use a couple layers of plywood instead of sheetrock, you could use metal sheeting, of course the best scenerio would be to build it out during new construction with concrete or steal. But I'd think most people considering a door like this would realize they need more than sheetrock.
@@jaipellegrin3526 Cutting off or tampering with the hinges would do nothing to give you entry to the room! When locked The door has 14 steel 1.5in thick locking bolts extending beyond the steel frame of the door on both sides!
@@PilotPatriot Then why do other top manufacturers of top tier safes and Vault doors. Have swig in doors and not exposed hinges then?????????????? I build and design things for a living there are always 2 ways to do something. The easier way or the most structurally sound way.
@@jaipellegrin3526 LOL They make in-swing doors because in-swing doors are less likely to trap you inside in the case of something blocking the door OR just because in-swing makes more sense for certain specific applications. Homeland makes both options! This one is outswing because the room behind it is small and an inswing would take away the usable space inside. Interior hinges on outswing doors give a cleaner look but don't allow the door to open a full 180 degrees and take up part of the doorway so you don't have a true 36" opening to walk through. There are great reasons for both in-swing or outswing and exposed or interior hinges, each has its own merits for different applications but regardless, your first point is incorrect... none of these options affects the ability of someone to gain entry by tampering with the hinges since on all models the locking bolts are inside behind the frame. Since you design and build things for a living I'm sure you know there are many ways to build something based on the specific application needed, but that doesn't mean one is structurally inferior to another. Thanks for watching
Cheaper??? Any safe you buy that's cheaper is not going to have a 36"x80" door with an inside latch...or a steel frame to attach to the wall. Lol. But...if you wanna buy a cheap safe just to cut it in half and crawl through a small door with no frame and no way to latch or unlatch it from the inside.....👍
now if i was to get in your house to steal shit, I would look at the door and say screw that, the wall will be my way in you would need a steal or something super strong to stop me getting through that wall because that is your weakest link, no lets hope those usual thiefs around you are to dumb to think of that if you ever do get robbed
Those cinder blocks will crumble when someone rams the door with a sledge hammer and that door will fall outward due to its uneven weight. The walls should be steel reinforced with rebar or plates. Sorry to break the bad news to you all.
Sooooo I guess you missed the part about the walls being solid filled and rebar reenforced ???? Also, the door is perfectly balanced, no uneven weight. With that said, This video is about the door itself, not about the construction of the room it's installed in. That's up to the customer
Not a bad price at all, wonder if that includes installation, would assume not
No that price is for the door itself. Manufacturer says most people choose to install themselves but they do have options for installation of needed
Weird seeing you here Thio
@@PilotPatriot A mighty heavy Door 🚪
I'm so envious, thats one of the coolest things I've seen, waiting to close on my new home and this is the first thing I'm doing when I move in..
did you do it?
Its wierd that a place like California has a quality item like this to protect the things they detest the most. Definitely going to be looking into doing a room like this. O know this is a stupid question but I'm assuming there is some sort of ventilation in there just in case?
They would recommend some type of ventilation or a/c
Well of Coors . You construct it the way you want . Maybe even an Escape Exit !
10 gauge so what 15 minutes with a $20 dollar grinder and pack of cut off wheels form harbor freight per thickness. for true protection you will need 1/2 hardened steel followed by 1/2" of stainless steel . In my opinion.
Lol well it's 2 layers of 10 gauge steel. But yea of course any door can be cut through if you have the proper tools. I'm sure you have a door with 1/2in of hardened steel...I'm sure you also took out a second mortgage to pay for something like that!
@@PilotPatriot exactly, plus hiding the doorway would go a long way, the most secure safe is the one nobody knows exists
I agree, 10 gauge is no more protection than a steel service door. This $2,300 door is just like all the other “safes” that give you the illusion of safety. I own a Champion, and will be using a Ft Knox door when building my gun room.
@@penniesfromheaven2511
I agree! I have an Amsec BF2 series and I have high piece of mind that my stuff is protected. It would take a crook a ton of work to access it. Not like this cheap crap from box stores. Most safes are pure junk. Fort Knox, Amsec, Brown safe, etc. are the only way to go. And hell, if you’ve got the coin, drop it on a Grafunder!!
@@PilotPatriot exactly
The door is fantastically engineered. And you did a great demonstration of it. However if I see something like this attached to cinder block walls.... I'm breaking through the walls using a simple sledge hammer. The room is only as secure as it weakest point!
Don't know how long it would take you to hammer through solid filled and rebar reenforced block...but I don't think it would be that easy! And certainly more difficult than 2x4s and sheetrock! And the chances of them having a sledge hammer with them and time enough to break through without getting shot.....slim
@@PilotPatriot O I didn't know it was reinforced with rebar and fully filled with concrete! Great design! I hope to have a room just like this in my home one day! I enjoyed the video!
@@Mott2 Yeah they did a great job with this setup! Thanks for watching!
@@PilotPatriotI was a Mason for 9 years. Cinderblock walls are not normally filled solid and dont have rebar throughout the entire wall unless special requested. They will have this tiny thin steel every so many block layers. It would take me about 10 minutes with a sledge to get through a normal cinderblock wall, maybe faster. I'm pretty certain a cutting tool can get through the door. You need 1/4 inch steel plate minimum to slow down cutting tools and force them to use a torch. While this door is better made than alot of safes it still gives a false sense of security in my opinion. Theres a company in Florida that makes a safe that hands down has a better door than this in every way for a similar price. If they can make an entire safe with steel plate this company is ripping people off with 10 gauge steel.
@@outdoorsliving464 Your key statement there is unless special requested...of course if you are building a room like this it makes since to request your blocks be filled and reinforced! This door display was built by the company with that in mind and it's also recommended by the company for it to be done that way!
Please note that this door has 2 layers of 10ga steel not just 1. Also as I've said many times on this video and in other safe reviews...all doors can be compromised if you have to proper tools to do it. I garantee 99% of your home invaders do not carry along a grinder and cutting torches or a sledge hammer for that matter. They are smash and grab incidents , in and out in 10 minutes or less. As another commenter pointed out you also have to find the door/safe before you can ATTEMPT to break into it!
I'd love to see a link to this safe that is so much better for the same price! Id will admit, I won't believe it until I see it! There are of course better safes/doors out there but are usually all thousands and thousands of dollars more expensive.
Thanks for watching and you bring up good points! Don't forget to request that the wall be reinforced folks!!
Why would you want an in swing door on a safe room? I’m guessing because with an out swing someone could block you in?
Exactly! Someone could barricade you in or a storm could cause the house to cave in blocking you in.
@@PilotPatriot makes sense!!
An out swing door on a safe room in your basement turns into a mausoleum in a storm when your house collapses into the basement. Hard together out.
A door like that does not mean much if you can go through the wall to get in the safe room. My safe room is lined with steel plate to prevent all of that.
The review is of the door not the room but of course you are right. Did you miss the part about it being a solid filled and rebar reenforced concrete room ?
800lbs for "Vault door" is very light ... NO relockers ?
I just watched a video about doors.....what am I doing with my life
You are wanting to build a vault?
I liked your video and if i ever had the need for home security like this, I’d consider your firm. Reading the various comments’ concerning specs & prices, I can only imagine what a typical bank spends for one of their branch safes. Whew, must be a $ million dollars?
Hope they make doors for Tundra trucks and my babies room! 😮😢
Good video !!!!!!!
In-swing doors are easier to breech.
Do the bars on the hinge side help lock it when it’s fully installed? Just curious because it looked like they didn’t move to help secure it closed when you were inside. Awesome video guys, thanks!
Yes they do, they extend past the frame so you could just pull the door from the frame, they don't have to retract like the other side though
I need something like this to keep all my cocaine.
Omggg AWSOME whoaaaaa
Looks good. But I'm kinda confused about the hinges? You said if you want it as a shelter you should have a door that swings in. Does that mean you make doors with the hinges facing inside?
They make this same door as an In-Swing door, not sure what the difference in hinges is. The reason I say an In-swing is ideal for a shelter is because nothing can block the door from opening if it is an in swing....you wont get trapped inside if the house collapses in front of the door
Awesome
Can it have key entrance instead of keypad ?
I'm considering buying one of these. Does anyone know if the exposed part of the 1.5 inch bolts lugs are chrome plated SOLID STEEL, or if they are just plastic/chrome plated plastic covers that make them "look" 1.5 inches thick? I've seen some safe companies try to pull off the Heavy bolt lug look with plastic chrome shrouds over tiny lugs...
They are solid steel
I bought my house but the sealer of the sealer left the homeland safe without the combination number what should I do in my situation ? Thank you for advice
Call a locksmith
I don't get these safe doors? its build between brick or concrete wall, which takes less than 10 minutes to get through?? anyone answers on why they don't coat the inside of the safe room with additional metal or other safe material??
You think the average smash and grab criminal is gunna get through 8in of solid concrete in 10 minutes???? With what?
Has anyone installed this on a wood frame yet, I just don’t see how it can support.
You'd definatly want to beef the frame up! Maybe six 2x6s nailed together on each side and nice heavy duty header!
@@PilotPatriot yes I’m Sure !!!!!
The vault door is about to be as unhinged
That release handle is to close to the edge.. sledgehammer an opening through the blocks and a reach inside and you're in.
I think you are underestimating the blocks!
Why is the door backwards
????
the door is more secure than the walls around it
Would suck if the lever broke while locked inside.
It's welded metal. You will be ok with the lever.
are the walls reinforced
This room was, yes
people with dis just be waiting for burglars to open the door
door is a no go...lets go through wall.....
Solid, filled and rebar reenforced concrete wall?? Good luck! Lol
A security log door is only as good as the walls that is mounted in! At the wall the floor or the ceiling are weak then your door is useless. If I was a criminal trying to access your secured room as I saw one of those doors there first thing that I was thinking about is how can I bypass the door can I go through the walls can I go through the ceiling or under the floor
Your are correct! But The walls, floor, and ceiling of this room are solid concrete ! 😉
Do another video if you haven't already but with the safe door "hidden" from view.
Just as having a gun safe in a traditional "box" format...it's too obvious. Intruder sees safe? Will try to force it open or force home owners to open it. One oway or another theyll get to the contents. Best to use "hidden doors" so that any intruders will walk right past the "gun vault room"...which could function as a "panic room" for family...as you have no idea how many intruders there are in the house and/or outside. Chances are there will be only one family member experienced with firearms...won't h ave an "army". :) 1 against many (unknown 3's) is a NO WIN.
😱 FAIL 😱 You simply bash your way through the cinderblock wall in under a minute. Need 18-24” cement with steel rebar reinforced walls and ceiling to resolve this. Even then, cement crumbles when hit repeatedly with a sledgehammer. Need steel plating all the way around within the cement itself.
Always need to keep guns in your room as well tho. Just saying
@@ericcalabrese8716 of Coors
When confronted by a door like this just punch your way though the drywall
Lol if you punch through this drywall you will hit 8" of solid concrete....
@@PilotPatriot I would say the vast majority of American houses have internal drywall. You would need to have your room built with concrete blocks for this to be worth it
@@humphrey4976 duhh! Lol. If ur gunna install a door like this you obviously need to beef up walls too! You could build concrete wall inside the existing walls, or use a couple layers of plywood instead of sheetrock, you could use metal sheeting, of course the best scenerio would be to build it out during new construction with concrete or steal. But I'd think most people considering a door like this would realize they need more than sheetrock.
To bad that the hinges are exposed not a great design
Whats wrong with exposed hinges?
@@PilotPatriot Because they're easy to access if someone wanted to really get inside your room
@@jaipellegrin3526 Cutting off or tampering with the hinges would do nothing to give you entry to the room! When locked The door has 14 steel 1.5in thick locking bolts extending beyond the steel frame of the door on both sides!
@@PilotPatriot Then why do other top manufacturers of top tier safes and Vault doors. Have swig in doors and not exposed hinges then?????????????? I build and design things for a living there are always 2 ways to do something. The easier way or the most structurally sound way.
@@jaipellegrin3526 LOL They make in-swing doors because in-swing doors are less likely to trap you inside in the case of something blocking the door OR just because in-swing makes more sense for certain specific applications. Homeland makes both options!
This one is outswing because the room behind it is small and an inswing would take away the usable space inside.
Interior hinges on outswing doors give a cleaner look but don't allow the door to open a full 180 degrees and take up part of the doorway so you don't have a true 36" opening to walk through.
There are great reasons for both in-swing or outswing and exposed or interior hinges, each has its own merits for different applications but regardless, your first point is incorrect... none of these options affects the ability of someone to gain entry by tampering with the hinges since on all models the locking bolts are inside behind the frame.
Since you design and build things for a living I'm sure you know there are many ways to build something based on the specific application needed, but that doesn't mean one is structurally inferior to another.
Thanks for watching
Cheaper to buy the whole safe and punch out the back
Cheaper??? Any safe you buy that's cheaper is not going to have a 36"x80" door with an inside latch...or a steel frame to attach to the wall. Lol. But...if you wanna buy a cheap safe just to cut it in half and crawl through a small door with no frame and no way to latch or unlatch it from the inside.....👍
now if i was to get in your house to steal shit, I would look at the door and say screw that, the wall will be my way in you would need a steal or something super strong to stop me getting through that wall because that is your weakest link, no lets hope those usual thiefs around you are to dumb to think of that if you ever do get robbed
The wall is solid rebar reinforced concrete behind the sheetrock
Those cinder blocks will crumble when someone rams the door with a sledge hammer and that door will fall outward due to its uneven weight. The walls should be steel reinforced with rebar or plates. Sorry to break the bad news to you all.
Sooooo I guess you missed the part about the walls being solid filled and rebar reenforced ???? Also, the door is perfectly balanced, no uneven weight.
With that said, This video is about the door itself, not about the construction of the room it's installed in. That's up to the customer