Tks man I appreciate all the videos. I’m about 8-10 mths out from my DJS. I knew it was going to be a rough time; but I broke both my hands 8 mths ago; so I roughly know how patience is important. You’re also absolutely right about opioids. It was a hard process to get off it during my hand recovery.
Appreciate ya! Tough to break both hands, good you have experience with the strong painkillers. I'm currently on day 63 of recovery, and while life is mostly normal, still have some swelling and numbness. After I got my splint out, things got a LOT better (For double jaw surgery, this is usually 6 or 8 weeks post op). You'll get through it and I'm sure if you're having DJS the outcome will be worth it. Find some good TV shows/movies/books you'll want to watch !!
I was recommended this surgery by my orthodontist for my underbite and slight bite misalignment but presently i have no issues that affect my day-to-day life other than light TMD issues and self esteem. Do you think such a big surgery is worth it?
Honestly, it’s a tough surgery. If it’s a severe bite you need to correct than sure. If it doesn’t affect your sleep / breathing or anything besides aesthetics, probably not worth it unless you really want to change your bite. (Plus it’s expensive)
@Jonah_Wilson I agree with you. It's actually free for me since I live in the UK, but I've put the process on hold even though I'm halfway through my postop braces. But I'm still worried I might regret it in the future since these problems tend to get worse.
You look like you did very well through it all. I have seen some videos where people were swollen and black and blue and it just looked unbelievable and that wasn’t the double jaw surgery.
I got hit by a noob biker and my jaws were broken. I just came home from my surgery and it's 1st day at home and i woke up because of severe pain but i am hopeful and i wanted to see what some other people went through to help me with the journey. Thank you for this video 👊🏻
@@Jonah_Wilson Thank you Jonah, i am unable to sleep even the painkillers and sleeping pills won't work rn it's 5:13 am and i am awake because of the very sharp pain in my jaws🙂
@@TalhaaArt sorry to hear that! I was on oxyc (not saying the full name due to YT tos) for 10 days, and then took high amounts of ibuprofen and acetaminophen for a few days when transitioning off
@@Jonah_Wilson I think i have one similar the other one's are different. The pains are getting a little in control these days yet i am having trouble sleeping, again it's 5am rn and i woke up around 3 today but i think i am learning to manage things now. Btw i subscribed your channel
Hey Jonah love the insights on the videos. Just clarifying is it a pure liquid diet still until week 4? I am currently week 1 post op UJD and I struggle with chewing and opening my mouth. So just curious when I should expect to eat smth slightly chewier like pasta, rice or chili. Also, I noticed that it hurts my upper lip area when I try to smile or laugh. When does this kinda go away or did you experience this at all?
Pure liquid for 6 weeks 😬. I could start doing soft stuff after week 6 when I got the splint out. TBH I still have a little pain when I smile to wide (8 months). It goes down significantly though
@@Jonah_Wilson Thanks for replying! Damn that sounds like a grind tho fr. How did you overcome being "sick" of the liquid stuff or missing solid food or was that kinda just a continuous battle. Also, digestive system wise did you find irregular bowel movements and complications with that? Bc I do so far lmaooo
@@gordonchow4611 To be honest, it just sucked😂. I wish there was some special secret, but I just came to terms with this is what I can do, I’ll survive and enjoy eating in a few months. For the quality of sleep I get now, definitely worth it
Hi just seen your video looking at bimax surgery myself to deal with sleep apnea. What has results been in terms of reducing your ahi. Have you managed to eliminate your apneas and get off cpap? Thanks
I haven't had a second sleep study, but I don't snore anymore and feel SIGNIFICANTLY better when I wake up. I haven't had to use CPAP or any other device since :)
@@Jonah_Wilsonthanks for your response found the video very useful. Are you able to do a video or provide details on the technical details of the advancement you had. Eg: counterclockwise rotation how many millimetres etc and how dr explained aesthetic considerations regarding maxilla and nose. Found it very useful watching videos like yours to get a sense of what I should know before or asking during consultations. Cheers
@@maxsteadman I don’t know if I will do a video, but i can tell you the numbers. In total it was 10mm on the mandible, and I believe about 6mm on the maxila. They didn’t rotate at all, it was just moving it forward to open up the airway more.
Just got the lower jaw surgery, still in hospital today is 3rd day post surgery, i have immense swelling, i feel like a baloon. Dr said they going to add elastics and discharge me today. Is the lower jaw surgery a Lil easier or is similar to double jaw surgery.
Jaw surgery on only one side (upper or lower) is easier, and recovery is usually 2x faster. I totally get feeling like a balloon. Take pictures every day to track your progress. Hope all goes well!
Definitely a good idea, although note that I wasn’t mentally at work-capacity for about 2 weeks. While you’re on pain killers and so swollen, you aren’t mentally very sharp
I got DJS because I had severe sleep apnea (confirmed by a sleep study, average of 52 "episodes" where I stop breathing an hour). I couldn't get it until now, being 23, because they had to wait for all my growth plates to fuse and I guess I was a late bloomer
@@Jonah_Wilson I see. Did the surgery fix your apneic events? How did having sleep apnea affect your life? I'm curious if your symptoms align with mine. I'm curious if I have sleep apnea myself due to my rather small airways (among other symptoms) and I'm going to try to get a sleep study done ASAP. Thanks for replying.
100% Dortmund fan😂😂 I see the confusion. I loved lewandowski when he was at dortmund, then he went to Bayern and I got his jersey. Now I have both hanging up lol
Tks man I appreciate all the videos. I’m about 8-10 mths out from my DJS. I knew it was going to be a rough time; but I broke both my hands 8 mths ago; so I roughly know how patience is important.
You’re also absolutely right about opioids. It was a hard process to get off it during my hand recovery.
Appreciate ya!
Tough to break both hands, good you have experience with the strong painkillers.
I'm currently on day 63 of recovery, and while life is mostly normal, still have some swelling and numbness. After I got my splint out, things got a LOT better (For double jaw surgery, this is usually 6 or 8 weeks post op).
You'll get through it and I'm sure if you're having DJS the outcome will be worth it.
Find some good TV shows/movies/books you'll want to watch !!
I was recommended this surgery by my orthodontist for my underbite and slight bite misalignment but presently i have no issues that affect my day-to-day life other than light TMD issues and self esteem. Do you think such a big surgery is worth it?
Honestly, it’s a tough surgery. If it’s a severe bite you need to correct than sure. If it doesn’t affect your sleep / breathing or anything besides aesthetics, probably not worth it unless you really want to change your bite. (Plus it’s expensive)
@Jonah_Wilson I agree with you. It's actually free for me since I live in the UK, but I've put the process on hold even though I'm halfway through my postop braces. But I'm still worried I might regret it in the future since these problems tend to get worse.
You look like you did very well through it all. I have seen some videos where people were swollen and black and blue and it just looked unbelievable and that wasn’t the double jaw surgery.
Some people have it really bad. I was super swollen, but I didn't get get much discoloration.
Nice explanation😊
Thanks!🙌
I got hit by a noob biker and my jaws were broken. I just came home from my surgery and it's 1st day at home and i woke up because of severe pain but i am hopeful and i wanted to see what some other people went through to help me with the journey.
Thank you for this video 👊🏻
Wow... hope you are okay. That's rough. rest up!!
@@Jonah_Wilson Thank you Jonah, i am unable to sleep even the painkillers and sleeping pills won't work rn it's 5:13 am and i am awake because of the very sharp pain in my jaws🙂
@@TalhaaArt sorry to hear that! I was on oxyc (not saying the full name due to YT tos) for 10 days, and then took high amounts of ibuprofen and acetaminophen for a few days when transitioning off
@@Jonah_Wilson I think i have one similar the other one's are different. The pains are getting a little in control these days yet i am having trouble sleeping, again it's 5am rn and i woke up around 3 today but i think i am learning to manage things now.
Btw i subscribed your channel
Hey Jonah love the insights on the videos. Just clarifying is it a pure liquid diet still until week 4? I am currently week 1 post op UJD and I struggle with chewing and opening my mouth. So just curious when I should expect to eat smth slightly chewier like pasta, rice or chili.
Also, I noticed that it hurts my upper lip area when I try to smile or laugh. When does this kinda go away or did you experience this at all?
Pure liquid for 6 weeks 😬. I could start doing soft stuff after week 6 when I got the splint out.
TBH I still have a little pain when I smile to wide (8 months). It goes down significantly though
@@Jonah_Wilson Thanks for replying! Damn that sounds like a grind tho fr. How did you overcome being "sick" of the liquid stuff or missing solid food or was that kinda just a continuous battle. Also, digestive system wise did you find irregular bowel movements and complications with that? Bc I do so far lmaooo
@@gordonchow4611 To be honest, it just sucked😂. I wish there was some special secret, but I just came to terms with this is what I can do, I’ll survive and enjoy eating in a few months.
For the quality of sleep I get now, definitely worth it
Hi just seen your video looking at bimax surgery myself to deal with sleep apnea. What has results been in terms of reducing your ahi. Have you managed to eliminate your apneas and get off cpap? Thanks
I haven't had a second sleep study, but I don't snore anymore and feel SIGNIFICANTLY better when I wake up. I haven't had to use CPAP or any other device since :)
@@Jonah_Wilsonthanks for your response found the video very useful. Are you able to do a video or provide details on the technical details of the advancement you had. Eg: counterclockwise rotation how many millimetres etc and how dr explained aesthetic considerations regarding maxilla and nose. Found it very useful watching videos like yours to get a sense of what I should know before or asking during consultations. Cheers
I'll be doing MSE and MMA
@@maxsteadman I don’t know if I will do a video, but i can tell you the numbers. In total it was 10mm on the mandible, and I believe about 6mm on the maxila.
They didn’t rotate at all, it was just moving it forward to open up the airway more.
Just got the lower jaw surgery, still in hospital today is 3rd day post surgery, i have immense swelling, i feel like a baloon. Dr said they going to add elastics and discharge me today. Is the lower jaw surgery a Lil easier or is similar to double jaw surgery.
Jaw surgery on only one side (upper or lower) is easier, and recovery is usually 2x faster.
I totally get feeling like a balloon. Take pictures every day to track your progress.
Hope all goes well!
I have orthognatic surgery too I'm stressed and fear a lot
That’s totally fair. What are you most worried about?
Thats a great vid! Did you get you plates removed?
I got the splint removed, yep! I will always have little titanium plates in both my upper and lower jaw though
@@Jonah_Wilsonthey are permanent?
@@luisislas2162 yes, they are. They’re small and not noticeable because they’re under the skin, but they won’t ever come out
@@Jonah_Wilson oh wow!
I need to get a fully remote position for this surgery. I expect to have this surgery in the fall
Definitely a good idea, although note that I wasn’t mentally at work-capacity for about 2 weeks. While you’re on pain killers and so swollen, you aren’t mentally very sharp
Why did you get DJS? I was also born with cleft palate and had it repaired as a small child but never had any jaw surgeries.
I got DJS because I had severe sleep apnea (confirmed by a sleep study, average of 52 "episodes" where I stop breathing an hour). I couldn't get it until now, being 23, because they had to wait for all my growth plates to fuse and I guess I was a late bloomer
@@Jonah_Wilson I see. Did the surgery fix your apneic events? How did having sleep apnea affect your life?
I'm curious if your symptoms align with mine. I'm curious if I have sleep apnea myself due to my rather small airways (among other symptoms) and I'm going to try to get a sleep study done ASAP. Thanks for replying.
@@totallyfake2852 it was life changing. I haven’t had a second sleep study, but I no longer snore, and I feel so much better when I wake up.
@@Jonah_Wilson How did you find out you stopped breathing while sleeping, thats my biggest fear i have an overjet as well. Whats the symptoms of that?
I'm gonna get it in like a year can't wait for it
It makes a huge difference!!
Be prepared for a lot of saliva and I can recommend Hilotherapy with a HILOTHERM cooling machine and mask.
@@JOYCE1990XOXO I’ll second that. A lot!
Real question are you a Bayern or dortmund fan lol
100% Dortmund fan😂😂 I see the confusion. I loved lewandowski when he was at dortmund, then he went to Bayern and I got his jersey. Now I have both hanging up lol