THE LOST OASIS TAPES - NEW DOCUMENTARY (2021) from the real people
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- When Oasis and The Real People met in 1993 Liam - Noel Gallagher worked with Chris - Tony Griffiths on some songs that later became Oasis Classics.
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Manc Sh*te😆
Was that BPI certificate shown at 1.38awarded due to tiny and Chris’s credit on Colombia after they were finally credited?
Honestly amazing how far Liam’s vocals came
I love the fact that I'm not the only one that is obsessed with Liam's voice (other than Noel Gallagher, it was him, after all, who saw the actual talent in his brother)
@@aquenwisey Liam’s voice harmonises with Noel’s perfectly as well
@@fakestradio4741 indeed, only Noel's voice harmonizes so well with his own brother's voice. There was a gig in Minnesota, April 2000 (I think, maybe it was Milwaukee) where Liam's and Noel's blended angelically during "Gas panic!". Together they sounded out of this world, in fact, I'm gonna go listen to that gig right freaking now
@@aquenwisey link?!!
@@aquenwisey It was Liam and Bonehead who started Oasis , not Noel
Really cool to see! Just wish Noel would credit Chris Griffiths for Columbia, Rockin’ Chair, and Don’t Go Away!
(Listen to The Real People’s “Feel The Pain”)
Noel owe them lot, there credit should never be forgotten
there* their
These lads are so kind!
Kings✌️
Yank here, love The Real People. Window Pane is a crackin' track. You were much more than an influence on Oasis and it's great you can prove it.
This is as raw as it gets - just imagine beeing there back then - seeing Liam and Noel doing their magic before it all started. Liam sounded so soft back then - it's amazing how quickly his vocals got better.
It was The Real People doing the magic for them at this stage. Helping them with lyrics, song structure and recording for the very first time.
There really is hidden and pure organic talent from vocals to the songwriting, to the melody and drums/beats. I do sincerely not hear this type of music in modern society. These guys lived and breathed music and within a 20 year time frame really went the full distance *OASIS Forever*
Brilliant they are x
Indeed
Pretty crazy how these guys and the original line-up wrote pretty much all of Columbia, yet Noel gets all the credits for it lol. All Noel did for the song was add a few lines of lyrics.
@Alaska Music they didn’t make oasis no but they learnt a massive amount from them, Tony McCarrol admitted it in his book, evidence in the clip of Liam copying the vocal
“You have to be a bastard to make it. That’s a fact.” - John Lennon
That’s why.
I love Colombia but it’s a very simple piece of music, it’s just simple chords with simple vocals - and the chords are actually lifted from the ‘91 Italian dance track Axe Corner - Tortuga.
It’s not like it’s one of Noel’s best songwriting achievements, it’s just a great atmospheric groove.
@olly “and the Beatles are the biggest bastards of the them all.”
- John Lennon
Just shows you that everybody needs a helping hand to start with but you got to acknowledge that as well afterwards so it's good to see theses guys getting some recognition here if not from Oasis at the time, I'm unaware if they have since in the passing of time and maturity 🤷🏻♂️, either way thanks for sharing 👍✌️
Unfortunately for some history is written by the winners don't get me wrong thank god for Oasis happening I can't imagine nineties without them,god bless these two gentlemen for making it happen!
Que feliz me pone todo lo que está saliendo a la luz en estos días con Oasis la única banda a la que amé desde el primer día, amo hoy a pesar de su separación y que siempre amaré por siempre jamás !!!! Max fer it !!!
Y mas las cosas de las primeras epocas de oasis, todo es una joyitaaa
@@MaxiGonzalezOASIS I'm Max fer it !
I been listening to a lot of the real people recently on there youtube topic . It's eye opening to say the least .
LISTEN TO THE REAL PEOPLE MUSIC PAST AND PRESENT ABSOLUTELY BRILLIANT
Absolutely Brilliant, The Real People are the BEST band of the 1990s, really genuine hard working and talented men they deserve recognition for THERE music which in my opinion is hard to beat its brilliant :)
Liam sounds amazing
it's sad how noel treated these guys, they deserve much more credit not to mention all the songs he stole from them
Makes me wonder who else he stole from. Who really wrote all those hits in the mid '90s. Seeing Noel lie so casually about writing Columbia in an interview, it's a bit unsettling.
@@neilsun2521 My thoughts exactly. Regardless of the band's line up change, and bar a couple of songs, the quality of lyrics and song composition of the first 3 albums released from 94-97 are such a stark contrast to all the painfully elementary dross of the subsequent releases. It's hard to believe the Noel Gallagher that wrote said subsequent releases was the same person that wrote the former classics.
Yeah i actually wrote dont look back in anger, damn noel stealing my song 😆
@@remymattson9140 same for me with wonderwall. He stole my song wishing stone!
Is this a Documentary? Coz this little snippet is Class! Thanks
Hey Maxi can you please re-upload the Liam Gallagher Blue Album please. Really needed that.Thanks man
Great documentary lads
Totally ♥♥♥ this great stuff !!! ♫♫♪
Feel really bad these guys how they we’re treated buy the brother they couldn’t get on the list to see them
Met these in Liverpool last night. Randomly in the street
From the moment Noel met Alan McGee, Noel was filling McGee's head with lies, and McGee was filling Noel's arse with smoke.
Tony McCarroll says that Noel's claim that he had 50 songs written when he and Alan McGee met is utter bollocks.
Noel changed when they signed the record deal and not for the better. People in the band and people close to the band have said the same thing.
@@mrkipling2201 Tony mentioned that. When they went into sign the contract there were all kinds of amendments and fuckery going on, and he should never have signed it.
Well said, poetic!
Love the real people
Been listening to the real people all week, some great stuff, And well recorded☘️☘️☘️☘️, ar the Griffin brothers Irish Liverpudlians????????
Una joya Maxi!!
Siempre al servicio de la gente jajaja
@@MaxiGonzalezOASIS siiii y no sabes lo importante que fue tu canal el año pasado!! Este año es obligatorio pero en 2020 fue imprescindible!!! jajaja
Cheers mate
Are they going to release these demo tapes ??
I'm big oasis fan but I'm with the realies on this all the help and advice they gave the band etc and they got shit on basically couldn't even get on the guest list for Knebworth shocking probably all noels doing what a cnts trick
This video proves Noel didn’t write Columbia
What did the police say mate?
Class ✊
sounds better than actual album. the kick drum for sure
How did you get a hold of the files for this video ? My dads chris and has never realsed this on youtube and has never sent the files anywhere.
Someone uploaded it to the facebook of the real people, ask your father, if he wants I delete it right now
@@MaxiGonzalezOASIS Yeah mate its sound to keep up, We was just all wondering how you had uploaded it before they had a hold of the original files. Just keep sharing it get as many views as you can so more people know about the story about the real people and oasis 👍
@Bobby griffiths thanks for giving me permission to share it! The work of "the realies" is worthy of admiration, hopefully my channel serves to reach people who did not know the story, my channel is not monetized so I am not looking to generate money with the excellent work they did with this documentary, we will also be there sharing the video in facebook groups, forums, etc. I send you a hug from Argentina! 🍻
@@bobbyla5341 is the full length version up anywhere?
@@MaxiGonzalezOASIS thanks for sharing mate I wouldn't of seen it otherwise 👍
Gold
I wrote don't look back in anger
3:10 sniff sniff, bit in edge , calm down calm down 😂😂✌🏻
Van a sacar esos demos completos al publico?
Wooaooooo
Dare we WURR
now 'ere we AHHHr
Liam is god among men
Ok who the hell thumbed down, if you did that .Your not true OASIS FANS .
Coincidentally it's two thumbs down.... Any guesses....
Why does the poster say "The Real People with special guests Rain and Oasis? Rain was the band's name before Oasis. Maybe meaning it's a new form of Rain, now Oasis?
There was a scouse band called rain
Liam and Chris Griffiths wrote it. Nothing crazy about it. He sang on Supersonic also and that's what shaped llams vocals. The real people's contribution is actually more pivotal than that they showed oasis how to use their 8 track and taught them. I had the live demo tape from it my brother bought a copy at the 1st ever titp at Strathclyde Park in 1994 off an Oasis roadie. Tapes are far from lost anyway. I will never forget hearing it as a wee guy. Anyway, some utter nonsense in here. The real people had a record deal since the 80s and not to any 2 Bob labels. They were in a music scene with would be legends. So these guys never met noel until 91 or 2 when he was a wee roadie with the inspirals, and noel somehow ripped this flagging jobbing band off? Griffiths said noel asked for help recording music and they helped noel with the process of recording and structuring his self written tunes. Yes there was some taking bits from others ideas that's standard. They got credited. But it's scraping the barrell to say much more. Noel may have lifted some things but how does one explain his ear for melodies and his authentic chorus aswell as liams vocals that conquered the world? The lost tracks. Grow up ffs.
Crikey it's only been out 10 minutes 😂
Ojalá alguien lo traduzca
You know, they were probably lost in the first place for a good reason
Existe algún modo de escuchar la canción completa?
Quality
Noel clearly ripped a lot of artists. Which happens all the time. But he kind of chooses to write his own history.
Has anyone ever asked Noel about the Real People in an interview??
Yes, he talked about them in the oasis definitely maybe documentary, (You can find it in oasis yt channel) and in some other interview that atm i can't remember, and Liam talked about them in his Twitter
He didn't really credit them in the definitely maybe doc he just said he used their studio and that he wrote all of Columbia.
@@aaronmcneilly1084 aye he really downplayed the whole thing.was a poor showing from Noel what he done to the real people.As much as I love oasis and noels songwriting I’m sure he’s not so much up his own arse that he can acknowledge that at some point he received an accepted help and guidance when it came to songwriting
Exactly, it wouldn't take much to give them the credit they deserve. That's all they want after all.
I taught Liam how to sing?
Can’t sit still the lads, bit on edge. Must of had a coffee 🤭🤭🤥
Pensé q estaba subtitulado
I still have a dubbed demo tape that a band member gave me as they were headed towards a concert driving through Texas. They were very sweet and fun.
Oasis lenda
If the Real People are such amazing songwriters and Noel nicked everything he knows from them, why haven't they had a single hit song, or even a vaguely well-known song, in their lives? Why didn't they have a career during the height of Britpop - when every two-bit guitar band had a deal and was in the top 20. Or if not that, why didn't they have a massively successful career writing songs for the other guitar bands. After all, they taught Noel everything he knows - right? It doesn't stack up.
Totally agree with this. Just wrote something similar myself and then saw your post. I do feel sorry for the Real People in the sense that they obviously did give a lot of time and help to Oasis and had a lot to do with them getting signed (e.g. helping them get a demo tape together) but when you listen to the Real People's catalogue and Oasis's I totally am in agreement with you. The Real People are a decent band but Oasis are world beating. The body language of both of the Real People present in this video seems to suggest a tad of envy and jealousy, and that's understandable. The idea that they were helping to "write" the songs I think is probably laughable at best, coming up with a riff, or a fill or even a tiny part for a song that is already written - like many producers and mix engineers do when in a recording studio doesn't warrant not count for song writing credits. The song primarily is already written, it's to be expected that mix engineers and producers will suggest ideas etc but conceptually the songs are done. It's not unnatural or unheard of when people in studios know they are working with serious talent to want to say they had a "part" in writing something when really they didn't. Been there myself with songs when out of University when had a chance at stuff, band was getting radio play and the drummer at the time changed a few drum beats and considered that song writing credit. Ridiculous. Laughable stuff and lamentable at best. My hunch is that the Realies knew Oasis were going to be big and wanted to get in on or get credit for things they didn't really do and either Noel got onto it or McGhee gave him advice to just walk away from this. It's a difficult situation, obviously the Realies did a LOT to help Oasis and it's a good chance they wouldn't even be signed without the Real People. However, . . . . . . where are the songs? I've heard bits of real people songs that noel allegedly took but what he did take from the REal people he made better than what they had done themselves - e.g. Don't Go Away.
I think the 2 of you are missing the point, none of em says they taught EVERYTHING to Noel about songwriting but they're understandably sad cos they didn't get the decent amount of recognition they might've deserved for lending the hand.
Plus obviously having no mention of Columbia songwriter credits, it's ridiculous they're all Noel's alone.
Realies are probably first to admit Noel's brilliant songwriter and aren't taking anything away from it. Noel himself admits he wasn't THAT good before he wrote Live Forever so obviously he must've got some help (e.g. hints of songwriting techniques and the process, perhaps not actual lyrical lines or chord sequences) and on the way before finding his own talent beyond the other guys. He still could've mentioned his original mentors every now and then. They have a point u know.
@@ChainNonSmoker I agree with all of your points. However, It was 30 years ago. They're sitting in a room with Oasis posters on the wall, Oasis tapes, obsessing over mixes in a self-recorded video. They took a pay-off and got credits on a couple of songs, as I understand. Oasis fans know they played a role in helping them develop their sound and Noel didn't acknowledge their influence as much as they hoped he would, or help their career (although I doubt it was a secret in the music industry at the time). It's a tough world. People don't always do what you want them to. Noel made his decision - and the rest of the band rarely mentioned the Real People either at the time, it should be noted. Should Paul McCartney have spent the entire 70s thanking some random dude who taught him a couple of chords when he was 15, or helped them with a demo tape recording session, maybe even suggested a lyric as he was developing early songs? The Real People seem like nice guys, but its a broken record. And it seems people are just looking for any reason to pile on Noel Gallagher these days. The healthy thing for the Real People to do would be to move on, make peace with it, and maybe channel their talent into their own music.
To be fair to the real people they try to move away from oasis. It's only recently this hole thing resurfaced due to an influx of TH-cam videos on this subject. They only keep talking about this because they never really were credited. Sure they got a payoff but they had to fight for it. As for their success they were very unlucky because they were on the Come up after their first album. This is backed by people like Noel Gallagher being a fan of theirs at that time. But couldn't release their second album when Sony was bought by Columbia meaning they were dropped and lost the rights. This was at a very important time for them. They released marshmallow Lane in 2012 but it was too late considering it was supposed to come out in 1992. Listen to what's on the outside it has some amazing songwriting. I would recommend at the end of the day, Going nowhere, fishes and all I know.
I would also recommend you listen to marshmallow Lane too it has some great songs like believer, car outside and Dream on
The real people due a bit credit then,surely, about time
They got it on the definitely maybe documentary years ago 🤷♂️ donno what Chris's beef is with Oasis now, never even heard of The Real People until I watched that Documentary..
@@deadfool3344 I wouldn’t say Noel gave them their due credit on the def maybe documentary .I’ve just finished writing a post saying Noel really played it down.Regardless of wether these guys should move on or not it wouldn’t kill Noel to credit them properly with the help the realies gave them at the start.Aswell as the admittedly small contribution to Colombia.Also would just b the right thing to do.Then to rub salt in the wounds lifts a line for his chorus wholesale for don’t go away.Widely considered by non lovers of BHN to b the best/only good song on the whole album.Now that is a slap in the face and a huge piss take
@@darrenstopper1806 I've seen Noel talking about The Real People a few times, I hadn't even heard of them if it weren't weren't Noel 🤷♂️
@@deadfool3344 I’m the exact same bud wouldn’t of heard o them if it wasn’t for Noel talking about them but Noel defo still owes them some credit.I mean obviously oasis still woulda made it without the real peoples help but they did help in the beginning and it is some of their lyrics on Colombia
Wow, didnt know that. I guess the changing of the lyrics to 'there WE were. now here we are...' effectively gave Noel all the lyrics credits....but weirdly, those are very scouse drainy grunge punk sounds, of the late 80s, like Ride, I know not scousers. But those lyrics, there were were, now here we are, sounds very scouse.... I keen imagine carragher on Sky sports saying something like that...lol
For those slagging the lads off, do we know where they asked to do this because you’re making out they begged for this doc. Do we know?
If the real people had a better name, were much better looking, had more swagger and better production, they could've been oasis. it really does boil down to a lot of lucky factors...
If these guys helped write the songs why is it, no disrespect to the Real People none of their songs are even a fraction as good as the songs they supposedly helped write? Secondly, why is it since then Noel has continued to write excellent songs, and these guys cannot write anything near as good. Real people are a decent band but it amazes me to watch this when looking at the evidence in both artists back catalogues. I can appreciate Noel didn't give them much credit for the help they offered but - part of me just feels these guys wanted more credit for what they claimed they did than they probably did in reality. I might be wrong. But if these guys can write songs as good as Definitely Maybe where are their own songs of that level? There are none.
Noel Gallagher is one of the best songwriters of all time so of course some of his songs are better than the real peoples. However I actually like the real people more than oasis at this point that's only my opinion though. The real people did have a massive influence on Noel Gallagher in regards to shaping songs, helping to use equipment and just general advice. Also nobody has claimed they wrote definitely maybe nor do they. They Co wrote Columbia, Noel lifted something for rocking chair and Stole the chorus from feel pain for don't go away. There are also some other times noel took things from the realies but they were after definitely maybe.
Sounds like he’s influenced by Bowie
Knebworth documentary all of a sudden we wrote columbia cash grab….
Read Tony's book.
Noel owes them
They did write it you melt
Columbia sounds better with the other vocal. It sounds more authentic and much more cool than Liams voice.