Hi great video, as a vintage machine re-builder actually operator turned re-builder in regards to you not having or affording the additional components that you did not get with your lathe I share this. I have a few vintage machines mostly micro, mini and instrument lathes Swiss, American, German as such they all did not originally have all of there feature attachments etc. Over the past two decades we have managed to acquire them and at prices we could afford, some attachments we have many of, added more machines and tools outside of lathes the Internet and making connections allowed these two guys to get what they needed. My advise is this, it is tougher now then when we began this journey (we think) as many people are into or aware of the value in vintage machines and tools of the past, that being said the keys for us were time and patients and making friends. The making friends part turned out to be the best and unplanned part of the venture, we actually make parts on the machines we bought and rebuilt to this day. We are new to your channel, your video is well done we look forward to seeing more of your videos thank you for sharing.
Schaublin made beautiful lathes at astronomical prices. I am glad to see another one saved from the scrapyard. I think you did a Good Thing (tm) by putting in a VFD. The complications of a mechanical VFD are enormous and it saved much time. The heart of a lathe are the bearings and spindle and those look OK. Can't tell without more testing. I envy you :)
Really nice video of the whole project! Good job with the new motor and pulley! If you don't know already, on Schaublins, the chuck backplates have a ring that clamps the backplate to the spindle, preventing unscrewing of the chuck when the spindle is in reverse. See in the Schaulin 102 catalogues. Daniel
Thanks Daniel. I have noticed that ring before. It is separate from the the backplate? I might have to make a few of them up. I need to make a backplate for a nice 4" 6 jaw chuck I have for it as well. And a faceplate. I could buy them from Schaublin ... but we both know what they cost new. I'm on the lookout for used stuff but it is rare.
thecogwheel The ring is a separate thing. See goo.gl/images/o42hoM It comes together with the backplate when ordered from Schaublin. There is a wealth of info on the Schaublin Yahoo Group forum and in its files section.
Nice work on getting the Schaublin up and running! First chips on the 102 were awesome, and motivation for me on my resto of a Habegger JH102 bench lathe.
I was surprised how effortlessly it works. It makes up for not having any power feed whatsoever by being so easy to use. You really need to get that Habegger going - get to it! :)
Thanks John. It's in pretty good shape. Not perfect with some wear, but so far I'm very happy. Bearings are nice and quiet - something I was a little worried about.
great video, but for the motor spacers, a safer way of 'de-burring' is to set up a lathe tool, and just 'cut a taper', a small one, which only rounds off this edge. ( you should NEVER apply a hand-tool like that, to a running workpiece! (that's why when tapping, you use a hand -crank, for the Boley/Lorch and schaublin mini (watchmakers) lathes, of sizes 6/8mm as this is safer, and gives you more control, if 'something doesn't feel right' you can STOP, quick, and not break a tap, or other tool) .
Nich Video and nice machine. But as a swiss guy it hurts me to see, that you add such a crappy motor to your Schaublin and also the frequency converter makes no sense with the variator. What happend to the original motor with the 2 windings? Toolpost: You can still get some Tripan toolposts here in Switzerland. Unfortunately the Tripan factory closed this year.
I know that this would go against the grain of true Swiss machine users. It was done mainly for budget reasons. I have the original motor, but I don't have access to the appropriate voltage for it. A rewind or transformer was significantly more than what I did here. I still have the motor, when I have the budget I probably will get it rewound for the voltage I need. I wish we could get 3 phase power here like most of Europe has!
Yes most hobby folks only have single phase here in North America. It is also 220 V. The cost of a transformer and rotary phase converter is more than a rewind, which is more than just picking up a VFD. It was a budget decision. The original motor is a great unit - I would love to use it. Maybe one day.
America is a land of wonderful people and many amazing things. Unfortunately electrical power is not one of them. The US really sucks when it comes to our power grid options. As he said almost all residential power Is stepped down from 7500v eventually to 220v and arrives to the home as 220v, 60hz single phase only. In the breaker box it's broken down to 110v, 60hz which is what 99% of all electrical appliances run on. Takes forever for a coffee pot to heat up, or a toaster, etc. Americans have no idea how the rest of the world is powered. As a child I traveled over seas and discovered 220v appliances and fell in love with 220v. But even if you import foreign appliances they're all 50hz and burn up. Very few items are 220v. And 3phase is almost exclusively the domain of industry. When I remodel my shop and repower it I will use a rotary phase converter, and have select plugs and hopefully the higher voltages available For my machines.
@@thecogwheel Your quite welcomed and thank you for your reply. Through out my adult life I've sought to teach others that if you wish to persuade someone of the merits of your point of view or belief; don't start by insulting them!
@@thecogwheel Also what tool post did you eventually wind up with? When I get a lathe here in the not too distant future I've pretty well decided I'm going to splurge for a Miltifix system. I've watched Abom for many an hour use his and I like the features and manner in which it functions. Not to mention there are now so many different sizes that you can really get a perfect fit to virtually any machine. I'll likely purchase mine direct from Germany. Your thoughts??
Hi great video, as a vintage machine re-builder actually operator turned re-builder in regards to you not having or affording the additional components that you did not get with your lathe I share this. I have a few vintage machines mostly micro, mini and instrument lathes Swiss, American, German as such they all did not originally have all of there feature attachments etc. Over the past two decades we have managed to acquire them and at prices we could afford, some attachments we have many of, added more machines and tools outside of lathes the Internet and making connections allowed these two guys to get what they needed. My advise is this, it is tougher now then when we began this journey (we think) as many people are into or aware of the value in vintage machines and tools of the past, that being said the keys for us were time and patients and making friends. The making friends part turned out to be the best and unplanned part of the venture, we actually make parts on the machines we bought and rebuilt to this day.
We are new to your channel, your video is well done we look forward to seeing more of your videos thank you for sharing.
Schaublin made beautiful lathes at astronomical prices. I am glad to see another one saved from the scrapyard. I think you did a Good Thing (tm) by putting in a VFD. The complications of a mechanical VFD are enormous and it saved much time. The heart of a lathe are the bearings and spindle and those look OK. Can't tell without more testing. I envy you :)
Really nice video of the whole project! Good job with the new motor and pulley! If you don't know already, on Schaublins, the chuck backplates have a ring that clamps the backplate to the spindle, preventing unscrewing of the chuck when the spindle is in reverse. See in the Schaulin 102 catalogues. Daniel
Thanks Daniel. I have noticed that ring before. It is separate from the the backplate? I might have to make a few of them up. I need to make a backplate for a nice 4" 6 jaw chuck I have for it as well. And a faceplate. I could buy them from Schaublin ... but we both know what they cost new. I'm on the lookout for used stuff but it is rare.
thecogwheel The ring is a separate thing. See
goo.gl/images/o42hoM
It comes together with the backplate when ordered from Schaublin. There is a wealth of info on the Schaublin Yahoo Group forum and in its files section.
You guys and those darn shapers! JEALOUS! It seems like Canada and Germany are the hot spots. Nice work Justin!
I really like the Ammco although I think Stefan's is a much nicer machine :).
thecogwheel How about a video on your Ammco?
I might do a short video on it.
I'm not a machinist or an engineer, but I was enthralled by this video. looking forward to the next one
Thanks Phil! Really appreciate the kind words and support.
Thanks Phil for introducing this channel on Reclaimed audio. Great work and video thecogwwheel, looking forward to the rest of your videos! sub+1
I love giving attention to amazing content!
Thanks for the sub. A bunch of good stuff coming soon!
Nice work on getting the Schaublin up and running! First chips on the 102 were awesome, and motivation for me on my resto of a Habegger JH102 bench lathe.
I was surprised how effortlessly it works. It makes up for not having any power feed whatsoever by being so easy to use. You really need to get that Habegger going - get to it! :)
She's a beauty! Great machine, and great video. I'm sure you'll soon be head over heels in love with that lathe (if you aren't already).
Thanks man! I do really like it.
Lock wire pliers now they are something you don't see much. Brings back some memories when I used to work on Hueys.
I love my lock wire pliers. Use them a fair bit! Product of growing up around airplanes I guess :).
Nothing can beat the 102 imo
interesting, where are you from?
Really enjoyed the video. Your lathe looks like it is in really great condition.
Thanks John. It's in pretty good shape. Not perfect with some wear, but so far I'm very happy. Bearings are nice and quiet - something I was a little worried about.
Looking forward to getting out to the shop sometime
Me too! By the way I don't go to the gym and bench press - I just move machine tools instead ;).
I still use schaublin 102n and schaublin 102n VM. Great machine!
May I ask, how much did you paid for that beautiful lathe ?
I like the machine & I like your shop technique. Any vibration issues with the vfd mounted to the machine base ? Thanks for the video ! Len
hi do you have a drwaing for the motor mounting plate i have tried and failed to make one just wondered if you can share this information kev
I’ve got the same lathe with the flat top to the base , mine is number 224870
Великолепный станок!
great video, but for the motor spacers, a safer way of 'de-burring' is to set up a lathe tool, and just 'cut a taper', a small one, which only rounds off this edge. ( you should NEVER apply a hand-tool like that, to a running workpiece! (that's why when tapping, you use a hand -crank, for the Boley/Lorch and schaublin mini (watchmakers) lathes, of sizes 6/8mm as this is safer, and gives you more control, if 'something doesn't feel right' you can STOP, quick, and not break a tap, or other tool) .
Nice job!
Thank you. Excited to start using it more.
Hard to believe you didn't put a washer under that Toolpost nut.....
Nice video, enjoyed!
ATB, Robin
Thanks Robin. I really like the Schaublin but your HLVH is a much more versatile machine.
i nearly bought a 102 once. the cost of accessories scared me a bit. nice machine though!
I do recommend people to get enough tooling when they buy the machine to get them going with a 102. Otherwise it's mortgage the house expensive.
Awesome looking Lathe, about how old is it?
As best I can tell it is from the 50s or 60s. I'm told it came out of the Bulova watch factory in Sag Harbor.
Well done
Thanks Peter!
Nich Video and nice machine. But as a swiss guy it hurts me to see, that you add such a crappy motor to your Schaublin and also the frequency converter makes no sense with the variator. What happend to the original motor with the 2 windings?
Toolpost: You can still get some Tripan toolposts here in Switzerland. Unfortunately the Tripan factory closed this year.
I know that this would go against the grain of true Swiss machine users. It was done mainly for budget reasons. I have the original motor, but I don't have access to the appropriate voltage for it. A rewind or transformer was significantly more than what I did here. I still have the motor, when I have the budget I probably will get it rewound for the voltage I need. I wish we could get 3 phase power here like most of Europe has!
Do you have only 1phase at your house connection? The motor can be connected to 480V.
Yes most hobby folks only have single phase here in North America. It is also 220 V. The cost of a transformer and rotary phase converter is more than a rewind, which is more than just picking up a VFD. It was a budget decision. The original motor is a great unit - I would love to use it. Maybe one day.
Really bad. Here in Switzerland every house will be connected to 380V three phase.
America is a land of wonderful people and many amazing things. Unfortunately electrical power is not one of them. The US really sucks when it comes to our power grid options. As he said almost all residential power Is stepped down from 7500v eventually to 220v and arrives to the home as 220v, 60hz single phase only. In the breaker box it's broken down to 110v, 60hz which is what 99% of all electrical appliances run on. Takes forever for a coffee pot to heat up, or a toaster, etc. Americans have no idea how the rest of the world is powered. As a child I traveled over seas and discovered 220v appliances and fell in love with 220v. But even if you import foreign appliances they're all 50hz and burn up. Very few items are 220v. And 3phase is almost exclusively the domain of industry. When I remodel my shop and repower it I will use a rotary phase converter, and have select plugs and hopefully the higher voltages available For my machines.
Сколько цена????
my working place still use this lath....
I had a 125 - even more complex drive
Please consider making you videos without the back ground music. I would much rather listen to the sounds of the machinery.
I will Scott. I appreciate your civil comment and I understand there is quite a number of folks who really don't appreciate the music.
@@thecogwheel Your quite welcomed and thank you for your reply. Through out my adult life I've sought to teach others that if you wish to persuade someone of the merits of your point of view or belief; don't start by insulting them!
@@thecogwheel Also what tool post did you eventually wind up with? When I get a lathe here in the not too distant future I've pretty well decided I'm going to splurge for a Miltifix system. I've watched Abom for many an hour use his and I like the features and manner in which it functions. Not to mention there are now so many different sizes that you can really get a perfect fit to virtually any machine. I'll likely purchase mine direct from Germany. Your thoughts??
tool post, who needs a tool post, use your wrists like our grandfathers did
Horrible music
stupid disturbing music
I've got exactly the same model