So very very similar to my very early Hardinge Cataract. The experience is magic,I love using it,like running a vintage car or bike? The prep,the oiling the setting. It would be rude to rush!
Andrew Wilson Yes, Hardinge are very similar. There were a few manufacturers that closely mirrored each others products at that time. The lathe bed/beam profile is very similar. Glad you enjoyed the vid. Cheers Rob
you cannot run them without oil. The bearings get hot and then... have 2 of them. One came with some grinding dust in the oiler... geuss where that would land when not cleaned ^^ they are extreme precise. 0.005 mikron. The bearing is mostly made of brass. The steel spindle runs on a oilfilm. Brass > oil > spindle. No oilfilme no bearing. One of mine must be 90 years old, based on the design ^^ They are heavy like a truck. Spindle and bed are +-40kg
Just lovely. Great sound track too. I'm into the Arts and Crafts movement, and do many things in the OLD school way. But I do like my variable speed Optimum German/Chinese lathe... It works a treat, but I would swap it for your beautiful Schaublin... Of which I've actually touched a few ... 60's era. Keep at it Gary.
Yes, style has largely gone out the window these days. It's all function over form. My Chinese lathe is the real work horse, but it's nice to keep and look at the old stuff. A bit like the appeal of old cars and m/cycles. I have a couple of old Ducati and when I get time I will do a video on each of them. Cheers Rob
Ha Ha that's a good one :) Just seems that way. Our area is over run with all sorts of doves, pigeons, crows, magpies, butcher birds. The racket they make is amazing at times. Nothing I can do to keep it out of the videos. But I do like birds, so that's life. Rob
what a beautiful little lathe, I agree about the styling in these old machines, modern stuff looks like a box, while the old stuff had beautifully flowing lines, organic in a way. I feel it it nicer to use a machine that is nice to look at, I do however believe the countershaft leaves something to be desired. Have you considered a wall mount?
captaingreenbush With the shed layout, the countershaft has to be mounted as is. There is no advantage to be had from mounting it on the wall. It works very well as is, and belt slip is not a problem. Cheers Rob
this is a very good wathmaker lathe with a hight presicion in his time ,how many years have this lathe 70 or 80 years？I think its swiss made but not sure make a big time wth him bye
Very nice. Is it unusual for the cross feed screw to work in reverse? All lathes I've seen use clockwise turns to move the cross slide in towards the machine centreline. Your lathe seems to be opposite. The compound, however, works as "usual". Something to get used to!
+Justin B Hi Justin, It is unusual to have the cross slide screw turn counter clock wise. I'm pretty sure that's not original. All other Schaublin lathes I've got information on turn clockwise. Someone probably used a right hand thread Acme tap/die to make a new one when it wore out - much more common than left hand thread tooling. This lathe has done a massive amount of work, so anything is possible. Cheers Rob
I bought my 70+ year old lathe for Aus $700. It's a flat belt lathe with a cantilevered bed. It's a bit smaller capacity than my Chinese 9x20 but even the compound rest has wider dovetails than the Chinese cross-slide! AND it's Aussie made, by New Gregco. There's some pictures here it you want to have a look at it. www.dirtbikeworld.net/forum/showthread.php?t=124297 It's not as shiny as yours though.
Yes, she is pretty. I don't think it would have come in orange livery, but hey, do what you like. Looks a lot like an early Advance. Provide these old lathes can still cut true they are a great machine to have. You do have a "proper" lathe so unless you are into machining parts for ships or tractors the bigger is better parrot drone from some "experts" is just crap and should be ignored. Small lathes probably do more work and are much more useful to hobbyists than big ones ever will be. The "mines bigger than yours" guys are pretty skillful though, being able to type out crap using one hand, the other permanently lodged down their trousers ;) That's a sad part of most user forums. You get these wallys sending people down the wrong path, buying cheap huge monsters they and everybody else don't want/ need. Having said that, thanks for the link and I enjoyed looking at the thread. Cheers Rob .
xynudu The orange is what it came in, but there are three other colours on it as well. The previous owner had already upgraded to a bigger faster machine, but it's so noisy I would hate using it. My little belt drive is so quiet I could have a conversation right next to it. Eventually I'd like to put in a soft start 3 phase motor with VFD and reverse, and do away with the clutch. It would be even quieter and smoother then. I'm not even using the clutch now actually. I use to use it because too much stopping and starting would trip out my meter box, but I don't have that problem when I plug it into the 15 amp outlet I got put in for my welder.
I' m sure you really love your lathe But cover this beautifully piece of equipment with a canva at least not with your dirty full of bullet holes underware. The respect does't exist anymore. 😢🤔🤔
As the old timers used to sing, Oh what a beauty, Ive never seen one like that before.
Brilliant sir, thanks Colin UK.
That's a beautiful old lathe there; you did an excellent job of restoring it Rob!
So very very similar to my very early Hardinge Cataract. The experience is magic,I love using it,like running a vintage car or bike? The prep,the oiling the setting. It would be rude to rush!
Andrew Wilson Yes, Hardinge are very similar. There were a few manufacturers that closely mirrored each others products at that time. The lathe bed/beam profile is very similar. Glad you enjoyed the vid. Cheers Rob
you cannot run them without oil. The bearings get hot and then... have 2 of them. One came with some grinding dust in the oiler... geuss where that would land when not cleaned ^^ they are extreme precise. 0.005 mikron. The bearing is mostly made of brass. The steel spindle runs on a oilfilm. Brass > oil > spindle. No oilfilme no bearing. One of mine must be 90 years old, based on the design ^^ They are heavy like a truck. Spindle and bed are +-40kg
Damn that runs smooth and quiet, testament to both the lathe and your restoration.
Beautiful restoration and it sounds great. Thank you for sharing your project..
Just lovely. Great sound track too.
I'm into the Arts and Crafts movement, and do many things in the OLD school way. But I do like my variable speed Optimum German/Chinese lathe... It works a treat, but I would swap it for your beautiful Schaublin... Of which I've actually touched a few ... 60's era.
Keep at it Gary.
What a lovely little friend U got there. Nice to se U taking care of it so fine.
I made the oilers. They have a wire wick as per the originals. The originals were all brass, but I had not much brass so made steel tops. Rob
That is a great looking , sounding machine. I have a 16 speed 10K South Bend lathe in great condition. love the older Machines.
They made machinery to look good back in those days.
Beautiful machine. Thank you for the video.
beautiful, gorgeous, thanks for shareing.
Yes, style has largely gone out the window these days. It's all function over form. My Chinese lathe is the real work horse, but it's nice to keep and look at the old stuff. A bit like the appeal of old cars and m/cycles. I have a couple of old Ducati and when I get time I will do a video on each of them. Cheers Rob
I'm more into function than looks but that is one nice lathe. There is not one surface that doesn't look great.
Ha Ha that's a good one :) Just seems that way. Our area is over run with all sorts of doves, pigeons, crows, magpies, butcher birds. The racket they make is amazing at times. Nothing I can do to keep it out of the videos. But I do like birds, so that's life. Rob
what a beautiful little lathe, I agree about the styling in these old machines, modern stuff looks like a box, while the old stuff had beautifully flowing lines, organic in a way.
I feel it it nicer to use a machine that is nice to look at, I do however believe the countershaft leaves something to be desired. Have you considered a wall mount?
captaingreenbush With the shed layout, the countershaft has to be mounted as is. There is no advantage to be had from mounting it on the wall. It works very well as is, and belt slip is not a problem. Cheers Rob
I've a load of flat belt machine tools in storage
reliquia de maquina
Really nice, what material are you turning ... butter?
this is a very good wathmaker lathe with a hight presicion in his time ,how many years have this lathe 70 or 80 years？I think its swiss made but not sure make a big time wth him bye
It is a Schaublin 102 toolmakers lathe from the mid 1930's.
Very nice. Is it unusual for the cross feed screw to work in reverse? All lathes I've seen use clockwise turns to move the cross slide in towards the machine centreline. Your lathe seems to be opposite. The compound, however, works as "usual". Something to get used to!
+Justin B
Hi Justin,
It is unusual to have the cross slide screw turn counter clock wise. I'm pretty sure that's not original. All other Schaublin lathes I've got information on turn clockwise.
Someone probably used a right hand thread Acme tap/die to make a new one when it wore out - much more common than left hand thread tooling.
This lathe has done a massive amount of work, so anything is possible.
Cheers Rob
By the sounds of those birds you are on the east coast of Australia?
Dane Cook I'm in Adelaide, South Australia.
Haha, if you consider 1400 km's not far, then i was close!
Magpies mate. Or Gary has ripped off the sound track to the ending of "My Brilliant Career".
museum piece.....anyway is a beauty machine...
Do u have pet birds inside
Enough said.
I bought my 70+ year old lathe for Aus $700. It's a flat belt lathe with a cantilevered bed. It's a bit smaller capacity than my Chinese 9x20 but even the compound rest has wider dovetails than the Chinese cross-slide! AND it's Aussie made, by New Gregco. There's some pictures here it you want to have a look at it. www.dirtbikeworld.net/forum/showthread.php?t=124297 It's not as shiny as yours though.
Yes, she is pretty. I don't think it would have come in orange livery, but hey, do what you like. Looks a lot like an early Advance.
Provide these old lathes can still cut true they are a great machine to have. You do have a "proper" lathe so unless you are into machining parts for ships or tractors the bigger is better parrot drone from some "experts" is just crap and should be ignored. Small lathes probably do more work and are much more useful to hobbyists than big ones ever will be.
The "mines bigger than yours" guys are pretty skillful though, being able to type out crap using one hand, the other permanently lodged down their trousers ;)
That's a sad part of most user forums. You get these wallys sending people down the wrong path, buying cheap huge monsters they and everybody else don't want/ need.
Having said that, thanks for the link and I enjoyed looking at the thread.
Cheers Rob
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xynudu
The orange is what it came in, but there are three other colours on it as well.
The previous owner had already upgraded to a bigger faster machine, but it's so noisy I would hate using it. My little belt drive is so quiet I could have a conversation right next to it.
Eventually I'd like to put in a soft start 3 phase motor with VFD and reverse, and do away with the clutch. It would be even quieter and smoother then. I'm not even using the clutch now actually. I use to use it because too much stopping and starting would trip out my meter box, but I don't have that problem when I plug it into the 15 amp outlet I got put in for my welder.
Who buy lathe olders. My lathe is perfectly. Only 1800 €.
I' m sure you really love your lathe
But cover this beautifully piece of equipment with a canva at least not with your dirty full of bullet holes underware. The respect does't exist anymore. 😢🤔🤔
Canvas won't stop it rusting. An oily rag will. Oh and by the way, the rags were washed before use.