The strongest trait of the previous two cars was always its excellent mechanical grip and traction out of slow corners. It makes sense to retain the pullrod rear suspension if the possible aerodynamic gains from switching to pushrod just don't offset that advantage of the existing mounting, and instead work around the suspension architecture instead (which it seems they have done extensively)
Every year Ferrari went their own way it failed so they have balls to keep doing it, if it finally works they will look like geniuses but they will have egg on their faces once again if it fails and to me they have much more to lose than gain but I wish them luck as we need to see better competition amongst the teams for sure
@@knight2425 they usually had good concepts such as 2018, 2022 and so on, however they always sucked at mid season developing. Yeah they also produced poor cars but they're not complete idiots.
@@hamzaelahi I’m not calling them complete idiots but if you keep going your own way and get nowhere then at some point you need to look at what the successful teams are doing and take note which sometimes it feels like Ferrari have a fair amount of arrogance and refuse to accept they are wrong. From memory wasnt 2018 the year they did something with their engines they shouldn’t have and when it got clamped down then they struggled? I would love to see them come out with a car that competes for wins every race as the sport needs better competition I’m just saying they have more to lose continually going their own way
One very precise comment on the video about Vasseur: When he arrived the team had no confidence, the guys were already believing on the team droping efficiency after the stat of the season. Yes there were some mistakes after the midseason break, we could discuss Leclerc strategy on Singapore, although that one I think they were with their hands tied, and Sainz strategy at Abu Dhabi, even if the car was damaged from Vegas yet, but after Spain, they actually did pretty well strategy wise. Such a shame a team that was the peak is now symbol of bad strategy and frsutration, I hope that confidence gets restored and the mistakes start appearing less and less
@@Ioulianos94. yeah, but if I'm not mistaken he had a set of fresh mediums, he could also have stopped on vsc, and put some pressure on the Mercedes. But the same thing would happen woth Lewis again, and it could be easier for Russel to get to Norris earlier, and he may have won
@@carlosmaia37 bro it was a difficult decision. Ferrari strategy was 1 car winner, with any cost for the second. Mercedes had nothing to lose. They put both cars inside. Leclcerc stayed out for defense
Ferrari have created a whole new aerodynamic platform with the short time given, that is very impressive in itself, clearly they have a plan and its clear this car will see evolution throughout the season because they arent constrained to development unlike last year. Theyve added their own innovations and if they can keep the good traits from last year and fix everything wrong from last year theyd be on course to at least be definite 2nd or even give Redbull trouble at some races this season, they deserve full credit to what theyve done
Wasn't really in such a short time. They had been out of the championship very early and shifted their development over. Let's see if they still decide to prioritise qualy trim over race pace this year.
@@cidiracing7481 Ferrari had the same amount of upgrades as Williams (13) and still finished definite 2nd in the 2nd half of the season and also won a race, compared to Mclaren with 27 upgrades, they were constrained due to the aerodynamic platform of the SF-23, they just need to be intelligent on how they improve on the car which they sort of have focusing on the operating window mainly so they can achieve same levels of race pace as qualifying pace.
@@rnosibZ57 Pretty sure Ferrari did not finish 2nd in the second half. McLaren had been more often on the podium than Ferrari in the second half and had overall the stronger car. Ferrari had the edge on straightline speed over McLaren. Third fastest ahead of Mercedes yes. A big help there was also AM screwing up their car development massively. Yes McLaren had more upgrades, but they knew before the launch already the car was garbage. They didn't get the car ready for launch and started the first 8 races driving around at the back. From all the teams (excluding RB because they didn't really need to change much), they understood the car the best and their upgrades worked pretty much spotless. In the last 14 races McLaren managed 7 P2 and 2 P3 once they deployed their upgrades. Yes Ferrari managed a win, but 3 P2 and 5 P3. The win wasn't because the car was so great. The win was simply because the RB was garbage on that track and a masterclass strategic drive from Sainz. That's what gave them the victory. If Sainz doesn't have the presence of mind to drive that way, he ends up P3 at best. Its not like 2022 when Ferrari won races on actual pace. The only thing the victory showed is that the best race strategy personnel at Ferrari is their race driver. The biggest question will be anyway if they fixed their tyre deg or not.
@@cidiracing7481i think he meant towards the end of the second half. Tbh all teams at one point was a definite second. First AM, then merc in the first half of the season. Then mclaren and then ferrari in the second half of the season
@@cidiracing7481 That's the thing Mclaren threw physical upgrades at the car, Ferrari took the process to understand their car and adapted their mechanical platform in such a way it counted as an upgrade compared to the physical upgrades that were constantly on the Mclaren, sure they may of been on the podium but Ferrari had the better race pace at the end of the 2023 season. The most important thing was how Ferrari was able to adapt their mechanical platform, they also fixed their tyre deg issues at the end of the season as well if you compare the Conservative race of Singapore to the flat out constant attack and defence of Charles at Vegas. If Ferrari were able to improve the car so much by changing setup imagine what they can do with a car that unlocks development in multiple key areas, the question is wether the Ferrari will be able to keep a stable platform and not fall off like Aston Martin or plateau like Mclaren
@@Appletank8 I think the fact the horses wouldn't see the terrain in front of them is a particularly difficult challenge to tackle, especially back when it would have been relevant lmao
@@loldoctor you must have missed the end of my sentence : "especially BACK when it would have been relevant." Until you figure out how to send a vision pro to the 1850s, I'll consider it case closed.
The biggest thing I am noticing is that teams are just jumping to Red Bull designs and then not clearly understanding what is happening. I am glad Ferrari put their feet down and said "We understand the pullrod configuration and we think it works best with our car" Let's just hope they are right and are able to use their decision to their advantage
@@km6832 you're talking like they can just ask red bull for the measurements and put it on there What they do is notice the idea and replicate it on their simulation programs, we're they filde with the proportions to find how it improves, and then optimise it for their car You know they have unlimited testing on their simulation porgrams right? They don't need to guess they can optimize it
I’m still convinced Red Bull will take both titles this year but I’m also paying close attention to see whether or not Ferrari will have the best platform going into ‘25.
Cardile basically re-iterated what Newey has been saying: Suspension needs to ensure the venturi floor stays at consistent and controllable distance from the ground. Failing to do that means your suspension is bad.
No he’s saying the opposite of Newey. It’s like Enzo insisting the engine is everything. He thinks it’s all about the aero and the suspension just needs to be good enough not to wreck the car’s handling. It’s aero first, while Newey is suspension first.
@@f.kieranfinney457 Haven't read about Newey's take on Aero and Suspension, but as worded in the first comment to me it seems Newey more than saying suspension is first and then the rest, for me he says that your suspension needs to "help" actively on your aero. Cardile's take on that (which i did read) makes me think maybe they are positive their suspension can help the aero of the car. But hey, only one way to find out if their work during winter pays off
@@samuelromero4696 if they don’t finish 2nd or better, then it’s pretty clear who should get the axe at least. When the rest of the field zigs and you zags, there’s no hiding. I hope he’s right.
@@TheSt1092 They were the only other team to win and were constantly moving in 2nd/3rd when McLaren did their upgrade it indeed has viability, despite the slight aero advantage to the defuser with push rod, however if they can get better mechanical grip with pull rod, i'd see that as better than pushrod
I don't fully understand the negative behind keeping the pull-rod setup in the back. You can make both work depending on how the geometry is laid out. The only negative is that it may take away some design freedom to the diffuser depending on how things are laid out in conjunction with the gearbox. I think this is a little over stated by THE RACE here. Just because everyone else goes one way doesn't mean its wrong for Ferrari to go this path... it comes down to the entire package working together and teams have to weigh what they want to prioritize as you can't have a perfect package in all areas because if you improve one area your going to impact another area negatively.
Can we take a moment to appreciate, in these dark times, this defiantly-bright red masterpiece. Enzo yelling from the grave, "fuck those grams, paint the whole thing"
The two main weaknesses of the SF23 were it's inability to preserve its tyres and its DRS which wasn't as efficient at maximizing the top speed like Red Bull. If the SF24 fixes these issues without creating new ones, it should be competitive.
If any other team went with this rear suspension no one would call it a mistake, other teams are going there purely to copy red bull, there is no significant performance gains, yes some freeing up of aerodynamic space but nothing significant at all, same as the front suspension, not much mechanical difference that can't be compensated for in others way, still brings its own advantages vs the red bull choice which then also has its disadvantages. This happens every year with ferrari no matter what they do, the Aston Martin looks essentially the same and that's celebrated as a "great design".
Ferrari had the second fastest car overall last season so I think Ferrari are just refining what they had last year. They have made the car lighting by keeping pull-rod rear and reducing component weight and focused on developing what works for their philosophy instead of copying Red Bull like everyone else. I'm noticing a pattern with The Race, they have always criticized the Ferrari designs but then Ferrari go on to be Red Bulls closest rival in terms of pace. But Mercedes get benefit of the doubt!
No they are only fast on 1 lap…. That doesn’t win races. Stop with these ‘second fastest car’ bs. Its abt tyre wear, temp management, cornering, drag, balance, being strong on high speed, medium speed AND low speed tracks, at altitude, in cold, in rain, in heat… it’s not abt 1 lap pace…
@@Redlingstein The Ferrari had good tyre wear from canada on (excpet at hot races) and they were the only team who ever challenged RB consistently, and over a entire race. Excluding Singapore (which they won), where RB was weak and Qutar, where the RBs strength, its race pace due to mandatory stops,was taken, the only team to challenge RB was Ferrari. In Monza they took the fight somewhat to RB and genuinly had the fastest (or very nearly) car in race trim in Vegas, and only lost because Max was involved in a crash (goes to show how cursed Leclerc his, his rival crashing is a bad thing). Ferrari sorted out all of their weaknesses (Tyre wear, narrow set up window, poor mid downforce performance,stalling beam wing reliability (sort of) )in 2023. They were the best in extreme low/high speed tracks, and the only real weakness is in the hot races. Ferraris biggest strenght last year was arguably their mechanical grip, and has been since 2022. Why change just to copy RB. It has anti dive and anti squat, which is what makes RB so good, so the very minor aero gain wouldnt be worth the strong mechanical grip their suspension offers
Ferrari are on the up that seems clear. If there is massive disruption soon at redbull with Horner - they may be wise to try and snap up Newey at that point. I'm sure its not lost on him that designing a championship winning Ferrari with a driver in with a chance of getting 8 titles would be pretty special.
Either this car will give the RB car a run for the money or it will lag behind. Be interesting to see the cars potential. I want to see Leclerc pressure Max like their childhood battles assuming he reduces mistakes
The last time someone at Ferrari said something is not important that thing turned out to be key to quick lap time. Whilst I doubt a change in suspension will bring too much of a gain, theres clearly something to it. Aero is not just for people who cant make engines....
It's a bad translation/out of context, he's saying that pull rod vs push rod is overrated and that both can work if designed well in different areas, advantages and disadvantages. Most of his work this year has been in redesigning the rear suspension internals so he obviously doesn't think suspension is overrated
@@elianioriofarrellmaybe so but if there is nothing to be gained then why are all the teams who build their own suspension following RB and McLaren. This is just typical Ferrari arrogance that they know best.
No it isn't, again, there are advantages and disadvantages to both and Ferrari already have a stable platform under braking and good mechanical grip, their main suspension issue was bad tyre wear, but that is still a matter of optimisation, not suspension concept . The reason other teams are copying it is purely because the fastest car has it, but an optimised push rod can be just as good as an optimised pull rod, they both have their strengths and weaknesses @zeberto1986
Exactly, Newey essentially stated the opposite to that ferrari guy and i know who i would trust on this one. The man who has knocked it out of the park with the current regs and is pretty much the expert on ground effect in this day and age takes it any day of the week. And yeah, aero is for people who pretty much got the engine where it needs to be and look for more performance. That Enzo guy was quite a simpleton for stating that nonsense on engines.
@EntropicExergy same thing I literally just said but you chose to ignore; "It's a bad translation/out of context, he's saying that pull rod vs push rod is overrated and that both can work if designed well in different areas, advantages and disadvantages. Most of his work this year has been in redesigning the rear suspension internals so he obviously doesn't think suspension is overrated"
My takeaway, RB will win both titles in 24, McLaren/AM (well Fernando alone) will fight for 2, Ferrari/Merc will fight for 4th and Haas will finish last.
Ferrari is gonna be obviously faster than Merc in quali but Strategies and race Pace will go to merc and mclaren probably is gonna struggle at the behinning of the season like last season but of course Not that worse
Premature tire wear and strategy mistakes really hurt my team last, if they haven't figured those issues out they will have a hard time competing with Ferrari and Mclaren as I assume Red Bull will have another dominant season.
Other teams goes with pushrod at the back to copy RB. But if i have to chose if finishing 2nd copying RB or finishing 2nd taking my own way, i prefer 1000 times the 2nd option, it's the only one that can give you some positive (as negative) surprises. Instead copying the original will not be profitable, cause RB is two years forward that concept. Great choice from Ferrari
But will they finish second? The only reason they finish in the top 3 is because they have deep pockets, most other teams don't meaning they just copy whatever works best to cut costs of development.
@@victortoba-ogunleye4056 1. There's budget cap 2. The difference in personnel and structure between top teams and the others is so huge that ifna top team do a wrong car they will finish 2nd or 4th at max. And also in the scenario Ferrari will end 4th is better to end there following your own path than copying others not knowing different ways of development, cause only the 1st won, ending 2nd or 4th doesn't really matter.
How many championships for Cardile? That's right, i wouldn't listen to him all that much. I'd rather hear Newey talk, who has shown that he knows how to design championship winning cars and has to be considered as the expert on ground effect at this time.
I'm a McLaren fan but ultimately what I want to see most is a competitive season, I don't much care who it is between (although obviously would prefer McLaren) but just anything other than 1 driver / 1 team dominance.
It seems to me Ferrari is betting on their tire deg/ race pace issues were an aero or CoP problem. I hope they are right, we need someone to challenge Redbull this year. But I think they are going to be the only team with this suspension configuration still, it has me worried. This launch car seems awful conservative when others are going bold.
A lots of haters in the book of haters to Ferrari, who are scared from upcoming hurricane from Italy and overtaking F1titles from RB , i think even The Race is high ranking on that haters list :) idk, just saying
Ferrari had a fast car last season especially on a Saturday, on race days it was tough on tyres. I reckon this season they'll be challenging more for wins as long as LeClerc's bad luck has changed. Sainz has nothing to loose too so we could see fireworks. 👍
LH is cooked. He made the *ultimate* boo boo by leaving Mercedes to go to a team notoriously known for making horrendously questionable strategy calls and having poor reliability. It's a bit like eating cereal and consciously choosing a fork over a spoon. 💀
As a Ferrari fan I love that we don't go with the grain and we try to stay unique... However if you stick to old ways in design and management due to ego then it's not being unique.
The duct in the nose is for the driver cooling. The lower side exit on the halo is a S-duct, with the entrance to it being on the floor underneath the undercut. Its taking messy air from the side of the chassis and cleaning it up before feeding it into the sidepod trench. The upper appendage is just a aero appendage
In fact, this car is very bold. Instead of copying Red Bull to a large extent like all the others, it retains its own concepts (inwash in front of the rear wheels thanks to retracted sidepods at the rear, narrow aurbox and centerline) and improves this with already proven solutions and clever detail improvements. Evolution instead of revolution. That's how you win titles. Not by copying others. So it's also completely wrong to say that this car is a complete departure from the previous two cars, sorry. To say that is complete nonsense because the basic concept is still the same one that was introduced with the F1-75 2022. Narrow centerline to maximize the rear wing and beam wings as well as inwash sidepods (the sidepods are retracted in the rear area, so they run inwards, which causes inwash), even if they were combined with downwash. So it's basically the same concept that has "only" been further developed and combined with known solutions from others to hopefully get the best of both worlds. Evolution instead of revolution. And that's how you win titles in F1. Not by throwing everything overboard every year and starting from scratch or blindly copying another concept. One other thing I would like to point out - with regard to anti-dive/anti-squat, only the upper angle of the wishbones is used to determine this. However, you are aware that the angle of the lower wishbones also plays a role (actually, this should be completely clear, because it is also attached to the car and therefore has the same influence). Therefore, Red Bull's anti-dive value on the front suspension is not as high as some seem to believe thanks to the F1 media. One more thing - Fred Vasseur's Ferrari...yes it is. But it is also a further development of the concept that was introduced under Binotto (inwash in front of the rear wheels, narrow centerline, etc.).
You should do the exact same video for HAAS. I fear that it will really cement their last place position again this year. Sad that HAAS has such little chances of getting better.
Can't be worse than what will happen with Mercedes. If he had any confidence in Merc he wouldn't leave. It's not surprising he has no confidence in them. Merc, and even more so AMG, have been bleeding top people. With new engines coming in 2026, Merc will be so screwed. The engine is what gave them all those titles. It's not that their aero was so fantastic. If I would have to pick a team that is most likely to become top dog in the next few years, I would say McLaren is the most likely one outside of the current top dog. But they are happy with their young driver lineup and have no place for Hamilton.
He should be worried. So many great drivers have gone to Ferrari and failed. The team seems to be toxic when it comes to drivers and nearly always has been. Only Lauda and Schumacher ever got to grips with the team and they were both exceptional talents when it came to working with engineers. I'm not sure Hamilton has quite the same skill set as those guys. He is just a great driver when given the right tools. The last two seasons have exposed his weaknesses in not so good machinery.
Actually 2023 car was Red Bull level on one-lap pace. The problem was that they were completely destroying tyres after few laps. The goal of 2024 car was to solve this problem
He sounds like Mike Elliot did at Mercedes in 2022. "suspension plays no role, it only holds the wheels in place". There is a reason that Newey owned 1 job with the RB. He knew the importance of suspension. The Ferrari designer needs to go
Except Cardile didn’t say it plays no role, Ferrari’s entire point is that as long as the suspension mechanically does what you need it to, everything else about it is a packaging and aero choice.
Last year’s car was not competitive, but who was against Red Bull. It’s important to mention Ferrari was the only non Red Bull car to win a race, and did it in a very impressive fashion too.
with them making changes to basically prep for lewis ive been wondering how thatll affect sainz specifically throughout this season. with leclerc staying i assume theyll ofc be taking his input. As for as sainz though i wonder if theyll just basically be using him as a glorified guinea pig to test the changes for hamilton. i also wonder if theyre really going to be chasing wins this year or just be solely focused on improving as much as they can to get set in for the 25-26 season.
We haven't been able to simulate last year's car and setup - let's follow our simulations and do something very different from all the other teams 😅 hope they got it right 🤞
they rly dont, youre mistaking their strategy with pit stops. last time i check theyre right there with rb as 2nd fastest pit stop throughout the season
People say that Ferrari has a tyre eating problem, qhich is true, but that's not the issue... They have an issue with identifying the cars strenghts and weaknesses and working to capitalise on them... F. E. they knew that Leclerc is a one lap man and that the car destroyed tires, and they kept putting him on a long stint hard tyre strategy for most of the season, which was pretty unreasonable
Wish the new 2026 Ferrari engine is a monster which can then compensate their car building weakness against RB. Else I do not see any chance of Ferrari winning any time soon.
I'm sorry but if Newey says suspension is critical and very important, and Cardile says it is "overrated". I think I trust the best designer of all time more. Seems like Ferrari have messed it up again
Yes but newey meant that getting suspension right is critical, no matter the concept, Ferrari have their front suspension right and have redesigned their rear suspension to be improved this year and get it closer to being right, whereas Cardille is saying that suspension CONCEPT is overrated, its not one is right, one is wrong, they both have trade offs and he obviously doesn't think suspension itself is overrated considering most of the redesign went into the rear suspension internals for better balance. Try to view stuff from a non sensationalised perspective. Ferrari were still on average second fastest last year and had good mechanical grip and braking balance with the alternate suspension concept.
Newey was talking about the combination suspension/floor. Cardile is right, no matter what suspension you would to use, it them work well with the type of floor concept you have, they will work both in simbiosys, no matter if push or pull.
Still feel like the outstanding issue is teams trying to build a car that can compete with RB while looking over the issue that what makes the RB so fast is Max. Max can take a car that is just on the limits on controllable and drive it on that limit, consistently. Checo isn't as fast because of how loose the car is. So chasing RB while Max in one of them is a wild concept. If you build a more stable car, its safer and protects you from issues when a driver can't control it. If they keep copying RB it still won't matter. Build a car thats stable first, then work in the tweaks that a driver can learn to push. Max's skillset is to high to match. Cars were pretty close when Checo was driving, so most teams are close. Think Merc makes huge strides and Rari loses out to Mclaren.
the factor which makes RBR a great car is, it has more operational window of peak performance. The other teams don't have such wide operational windows to play with. This gives RBR and immensely predictable car which in-turn enables Max to push the car to the limit. Since other team always has to always dial in their setting to the dot, their drivers cannot push the car to the fullest.There are drivers on the grid with much greater skill than max namely Alonso and lewis. Monaco qualifying was way to close for RBR's liking. Given a predictable car, lewis and Alonso blows max out of any wins.
I can't agree with you on Alonso and Lewis having more skill. RB can make a car that is much more harder to control. The advantage to that is, with a highly skilled driver, you can get more out of it. Later on the brakes, earlier on throttle on the way out. The tighter the car, the more distance needed to brake and more throttle control on the way out. RB has anti dive and anti squat, why? BC Max can control it. Checo struggles with it. Merc and Aston don't set the cars up for that 1. Its risky, you put more on the driver to control the car then the car to control the driver. You can have a faster can, but the driver needs to be able to reaction to the oversteers and be able to be on the absolute limit of the brake pedal without locking. Lewis and Alonso could prolly control a car similar to RB but its not worth the risk. One miss snap and one lock up can ruin the race. Max seems super comfortable being on the knife edge with the limits. 2. RB's car is setup to get the most out of Max using it. Its why Checo struggles. its not because he is a bad driver, he just isn't as fast as Max at reaction to changes in car feel. Max is also on Lewis's level of tire management. Being able to keep up lap times with out hurting tires. IMO Lewis is still the master at that, but since the car isn't as "fast" he needs to put more into each lap and it eats at the tires more. Max has it dialed on late braking and getting the car to rotate. He has mastered that better then anyone. 3. Max is a level above everyone else. RB saw it coming and built a car to showcase that 100-110%. Put everyone in a HAAS and chances are they are within .001 they are that close in skill, but build a car that can brake later and power out faster but at the risk of oversteer and understeer, Max is on of the few that can balance that the best right now. For lack of a better term, he is just feeling it. It comes to him so fast and he is able to input that back into the car instantly. Its like he doesn't have to think about it, he just does it. @@KJ_1611
I always hold out hope for Ferrari to make a good car, but they always disappoint. Fingers crossed. 23 was such a great season, looking forward to the start of this season!
Of course it's important to note that by the time Vasseur arrived at Ferrari last year, the car design was pretty much frozen... This is the first "Vasseur Ferrari".
@@kevinputhenpurackel722 I am not your brother, so cut that bro crap. And don't tell me to chill out, since you can see that i am having a bit of fun here if you actually read my post. I don't expect anyone posting such crappy posts as you do even knows what the word deep entails.
@@kevinputhenpurackel722 Nothing, but the way you started that BS post was enough. I don't have a brother to begin with but if i did, he would not type as ridiculous as you do.
When come to Ferrari F1 car. The same narrative over and over again. 15 years since the last time they won the car championship. Start wining and Save the brand.
@@jakubknotek4891 the race blasted Ferrari in 2022 too,wasn’t that bad contrary to how they depicted it, BTW the race blasted Ferrari in 2017 and 2018, second best car those years
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Andrian newy apparently sign for ferrari already
Ferrari always shaking their cars down at their very own test track at Fiorano is the biggest flex one can imagine 😂
except that testing is banned outside of the official test the week before the Bahrain GP
@@NonFlyiingDutchman Yeah no shit sherlock
@NonFlyiingDutchman You get 200 km running anywhere you want for media/shakedown purposes
Yeah no shit sherlock, the rule is almost as old as some of the drivers 😅
@@NonFlyiingDutchmanhe didny say they tested their cars...He said they shake their cars there...not the same
The strongest trait of the previous two cars was always its excellent mechanical grip and traction out of slow corners. It makes sense to retain the pullrod rear suspension if the possible aerodynamic gains from switching to pushrod just don't offset that advantage of the existing mounting, and instead work around the suspension architecture instead (which it seems they have done extensively)
Well said!
not just the slow ones, even at Monza you could see the Ferrari's accelerating away from Max wheb coming out of the final corner.
I feel like that's always been a Ferrari signature trait. Despite their other weaknesses.
The problem is Ferraris suspension compromises the power of the duffuser.
@@TheSt1092please, elaborate
Ferrari F1 2024 major goal is not eating up the tires too quickly.
Yep and improving race pace rather than quali pace
And strategy and reliability of course
Yep, that was one of the main factors that always led to sub-optimal pit strategies compared to everyone around them
“My tired are gone, its only been one lap!” Lewis, 2025 probably
They should focus on timely pit stops and sound strategies.
@@imgoodkindaalot of race pace goes into the tyres not going to shit after a few laps...
gonna miss the bathtub sidepods
So gorgeous. My jaw was on the floor when they were first unveiled,
Naaaah
Bathtub? It made the car look like some sort of cobra.
@@1255XL The Bathing Cobra
Love the bathtub design!
I like that they’re going their own way and that they trust their design concept. We need more of this on the grid!
This is why they have not won a Championship since 2008. Their own way is always wrong.
Every year Ferrari went their own way it failed so they have balls to keep doing it, if it finally works they will look like geniuses but they will have egg on their faces once again if it fails and to me they have much more to lose than gain but I wish them luck as we need to see better competition amongst the teams for sure
@@knight2425 they usually had good concepts such as 2018, 2022 and so on, however they always sucked at mid season developing. Yeah they also produced poor cars but they're not complete idiots.
@@hamzaelahi I’m not calling them complete idiots but if you keep going your own way and get nowhere then at some point you need to look at what the successful teams are doing and take note which sometimes it feels like Ferrari have a fair amount of arrogance and refuse to accept they are wrong. From memory wasnt 2018 the year they did something with their engines they shouldn’t have and when it got clamped down then they struggled? I would love to see them come out with a car that competes for wins every race as the sport needs better competition I’m just saying they have more to lose continually going their own way
@@stephensegal5187yes ferrari being ferrari at its best
One very precise comment on the video about Vasseur: When he arrived the team had no confidence, the guys were already believing on the team droping efficiency after the stat of the season. Yes there were some mistakes after the midseason break, we could discuss Leclerc strategy on Singapore, although that one I think they were with their hands tied, and Sainz strategy at Abu Dhabi, even if the car was damaged from Vegas yet, but after Spain, they actually did pretty well strategy wise. Such a shame a team that was the peak is now symbol of bad strategy and frsutration, I hope that confidence gets restored and the mistakes start appearing less and less
Leclerc strategy was really good but he was unlucky with SC. And in the end Sainz took the win.
Strategy in Singapore was fine it's just Charles got a long stop due to Lewis coming in.
@@Ioulianos94. yeah, but if I'm not mistaken he had a set of fresh mediums, he could also have stopped on vsc, and put some pressure on the Mercedes. But the same thing would happen woth Lewis again, and it could be easier for Russel to get to Norris earlier, and he may have won
@@carlosmaia37 bro it was a difficult decision. Ferrari strategy was 1 car winner, with any cost for the second. Mercedes had nothing to lose. They put both cars inside. Leclcerc stayed out for defense
Fred’s team might feel better but they DID drop one spot in the order. If they don’t improve he’s a failure and will get canned. Tough spot to be in.
I have high hopes for Ferrari under Vasseur's lead. He's a great TP so hopefully he can revive Ferrari.
Ferrari have created a whole new aerodynamic platform with the short time given, that is very impressive in itself, clearly they have a plan and its clear this car will see evolution throughout the season because they arent constrained to development unlike last year. Theyve added their own innovations and if they can keep the good traits from last year and fix everything wrong from last year theyd be on course to at least be definite 2nd or even give Redbull trouble at some races this season, they deserve full credit to what theyve done
Wasn't really in such a short time. They had been out of the championship very early and shifted their development over. Let's see if they still decide to prioritise qualy trim over race pace this year.
@@cidiracing7481 Ferrari had the same amount of upgrades as Williams (13) and still finished definite 2nd in the 2nd half of the season and also won a race, compared to Mclaren with 27 upgrades, they were constrained due to the aerodynamic platform of the SF-23, they just need to be intelligent on how they improve on the car which they sort of have focusing on the operating window mainly so they can achieve same levels of race pace as qualifying pace.
@@rnosibZ57 Pretty sure Ferrari did not finish 2nd in the second half. McLaren had been more often on the podium than Ferrari in the second half and had overall the stronger car. Ferrari had the edge on straightline speed over McLaren. Third fastest ahead of Mercedes yes. A big help there was also AM screwing up their car development massively.
Yes McLaren had more upgrades, but they knew before the launch already the car was garbage. They didn't get the car ready for launch and started the first 8 races driving around at the back. From all the teams (excluding RB because they didn't really need to change much), they understood the car the best and their upgrades worked pretty much spotless. In the last 14 races McLaren managed 7 P2 and 2 P3 once they deployed their upgrades. Yes Ferrari managed a win, but 3 P2 and 5 P3. The win wasn't because the car was so great. The win was simply because the RB was garbage on that track and a masterclass strategic drive from Sainz. That's what gave them the victory. If Sainz doesn't have the presence of mind to drive that way, he ends up P3 at best. Its not like 2022 when Ferrari won races on actual pace. The only thing the victory showed is that the best race strategy personnel at Ferrari is their race driver.
The biggest question will be anyway if they fixed their tyre deg or not.
@@cidiracing7481i think he meant towards the end of the second half. Tbh all teams at one point was a definite second. First AM, then merc in the first half of the season. Then mclaren and then ferrari in the second half of the season
@@cidiracing7481 That's the thing Mclaren threw physical upgrades at the car, Ferrari took the process to understand their car and adapted their mechanical platform in such a way it counted as an upgrade compared to the physical upgrades that were constantly on the Mclaren, sure they may of been on the podium but Ferrari had the better race pace at the end of the 2023 season. The most important thing was how Ferrari was able to adapt their mechanical platform, they also fixed their tyre deg issues at the end of the season as well if you compare the Conservative race of Singapore to the flat out constant attack and defence of Charles at Vegas. If Ferrari were able to improve the car so much by changing setup imagine what they can do with a car that unlocks development in multiple key areas, the question is wether the Ferrari will be able to keep a stable platform and not fall off like Aston Martin or plateau like Mclaren
“The horses pull the cart, not push it.” -Enzo Ferrari c. 1959
2:23
Now I wonder if one could build a horse pushed cart, and how well it would work.
@@Appletank8 I think the fact the horses wouldn't see the terrain in front of them is a particularly difficult challenge to tackle, especially back when it would have been relevant lmao
@@charles-antoinemartel-roythree words: Apple Vision Pro.
@@loldoctor you must have missed the end of my sentence : "especially BACK when it would have been relevant."
Until you figure out how to send a vision pro to the 1850s, I'll consider it case closed.
@@charles-antoinemartel-roy If the cart was a low one, they'd be able to see over it at least.
The biggest thing I am noticing is that teams are just jumping to Red Bull designs and then not clearly understanding what is happening. I am glad Ferrari put their feet down and said "We understand the pullrod configuration and we think it works best with our car" Let's just hope they are right and are able to use their decision to their advantage
Welcome to spec racing f1
there are absolutely 0 indicators that teams don't understand the red bull designs they've copied
@@Lora_Beolab you never copied homework? Lol you dont need to understand just know that it works
@@km6832 you're talking like they can just ask red bull for the measurements and put it on there
What they do is notice the idea and replicate it on their simulation programs, we're they filde with the proportions to find how it improves, and then optimise it for their car
You know they have unlimited testing on their simulation porgrams right? They don't need to guess they can optimize it
@@Lora_Beolab so what are you really arguing about? You think they got it right at first and understood it off the bat?
Wow, 12 contracts are ending this year! Will be interesting to see how that plays out
I’m still convinced Red Bull will take both titles this year but I’m also paying close attention to see whether or not Ferrari will have the best platform going into ‘25.
They won’t. McLaren will be #2 team
@@Redlingstein50 50 on that
@@Redlingsteinbet you a dollar Mclaren will be 3rd. Yes they had a good mid season recovery but still they ware not consistently the 2nd fastest car.
Based on what evidence/logic?
You haven't seen a single test day or race yet, what do you base your convictions on?
Cardile basically re-iterated what Newey has been saying: Suspension needs to ensure the venturi floor stays at consistent and controllable distance from the ground. Failing to do that means your suspension is bad.
says the engineer contended by all F1 teams
No he’s saying the opposite of Newey. It’s like Enzo insisting the engine is everything. He thinks it’s all about the aero and the suspension just needs to be good enough not to wreck the car’s handling. It’s aero first, while Newey is suspension first.
@@f.kieranfinney457 Haven't read about Newey's take on Aero and Suspension, but as worded in the first comment to me it seems Newey more than saying suspension is first and then the rest, for me he says that your suspension needs to "help" actively on your aero. Cardile's take on that (which i did read) makes me think maybe they are positive their suspension can help the aero of the car. But hey, only one way to find out if their work during winter pays off
@@samuelromero4696 if they don’t finish 2nd or better, then it’s pretty clear who should get the axe at least. When the rest of the field zigs and you zags, there’s no hiding. I hope he’s right.
Ferrari have shown the pull rod setup has viability, pleasing to see a slight less derivative design on the 2024 grid - looks quick
No they haven't.
@@TheSt1092 They were the only other team to win and were constantly moving in 2nd/3rd when McLaren did their upgrade
it indeed has viability, despite the slight aero advantage to the defuser with push rod, however if they can get better mechanical grip with pull rod, i'd see that as better than pushrod
@TheSt1092 stop replying to everyone here without knowing what you're talking about
Do I not know anything ? If the Ferrari pullod setup was a good idea why did it not win more than one race last year
@@TheSt1092If the pushrod is as decisive as you're saying, why did any of the other teams running it not win a single race?
I don't fully understand the negative behind keeping the pull-rod setup in the back. You can make both work depending on how the geometry is laid out. The only negative is that it may take away some design freedom to the diffuser depending on how things are laid out in conjunction with the gearbox. I think this is a little over stated by THE RACE here. Just because everyone else goes one way doesn't mean its wrong for Ferrari to go this path... it comes down to the entire package working together and teams have to weigh what they want to prioritize as you can't have a perfect package in all areas because if you improve one area your going to impact another area negatively.
20 years of the amazing machine F2004.. hope this year we see a glimpse of that with this SF
Better strategy calls would help in addition to better pace if they want to win races this season and challenge Red Bull.
Can we take a moment to appreciate, in these dark times, this defiantly-bright red masterpiece. Enzo yelling from the grave, "fuck those grams, paint the whole thing"
im all for the McDonald machine to beat the time machine
The two main weaknesses of the SF23 were it's inability to preserve its tyres and its DRS which wasn't as efficient at maximizing the top speed like Red Bull. If the SF24 fixes these issues without creating new ones, it should be competitive.
Why is that are sure redbull won't improve and the other teams Mercedes for example
If any other team went with this rear suspension no one would call it a mistake, other teams are going there purely to copy red bull, there is no significant performance gains, yes some freeing up of aerodynamic space but nothing significant at all, same as the front suspension, not much mechanical difference that can't be compensated for in others way, still brings its own advantages vs the red bull choice which then also has its disadvantages. This happens every year with ferrari no matter what they do, the Aston Martin looks essentially the same and that's celebrated as a "great design".
That's the car sorted, now, about those strats...
Im not wven a Ferrari fan but i hope they are competitive this year
Ferrari had the second fastest car overall last season so I think Ferrari are just refining what they had last year. They have made the car lighting by keeping pull-rod rear and reducing component weight and focused on developing what works for their philosophy instead of copying Red Bull like everyone else. I'm noticing a pattern with The Race, they have always criticized the Ferrari designs but then Ferrari go on to be Red Bulls closest rival in terms of pace. But Mercedes get benefit of the doubt!
No they are only fast on 1 lap…. That doesn’t win races. Stop with these ‘second fastest car’ bs. Its abt tyre wear, temp management, cornering, drag, balance, being strong on high speed, medium speed AND low speed tracks, at altitude, in cold, in rain, in heat… it’s not abt 1 lap pace…
@@Redlingsteinand the driver ^^
@daarom3472 they have the drivers mate, not their fault the car eats tyres
@@Redlingstein The Ferrari had good tyre wear from canada on (excpet at hot races) and they were the only team who ever challenged RB consistently, and over a entire race. Excluding Singapore (which they won), where RB was weak and Qutar, where the RBs strength, its race pace due to mandatory stops,was taken, the only team to challenge RB was Ferrari. In Monza they took the fight somewhat to RB and genuinly had the fastest (or very nearly) car in race trim in Vegas, and only lost because Max was involved in a crash (goes to show how cursed Leclerc his, his rival crashing is a bad thing).
Ferrari sorted out all of their weaknesses (Tyre wear, narrow set up window, poor mid downforce performance,stalling beam wing reliability (sort of) )in 2023. They were the best in extreme low/high speed tracks, and the only real weakness is in the hot races.
Ferraris biggest strenght last year was arguably their mechanical grip, and has been since 2022. Why change just to copy RB. It has anti dive and anti squat, which is what makes RB so good, so the very minor aero gain wouldnt be worth the strong mechanical grip their suspension offers
@Redlingstein that's why they redesigned the internals of the rear suspension and diffuser and sidepod downwash, they're not just pussy footing about
Ferrari are on the up that seems clear.
If there is massive disruption soon at redbull with Horner - they may be wise to try and snap up Newey at that point. I'm sure its not lost on him that designing a championship winning Ferrari with a driver in with a chance of getting 8 titles would be pretty special.
Adrian Newey has built 13 championship winning cars already and won around 16 constructors titles.
Love how you highlighted the AMR's lower wishbone as the pushrod... Gives credibility to the whole analysis
Either this car will give the RB car a run for the money or it will lag behind. Be interesting to see the cars potential. I want to see Leclerc pressure Max like their childhood battles assuming he reduces mistakes
The last time someone at Ferrari said something is not important that thing turned out to be key to quick lap time. Whilst I doubt a change in suspension will bring too much of a gain, theres clearly something to it. Aero is not just for people who cant make engines....
It's a bad translation/out of context, he's saying that pull rod vs push rod is overrated and that both can work if designed well in different areas, advantages and disadvantages. Most of his work this year has been in redesigning the rear suspension internals so he obviously doesn't think suspension is overrated
@@elianioriofarrellmaybe so but if there is nothing to be gained then why are all the teams who build their own suspension following RB and McLaren. This is just typical Ferrari arrogance that they know best.
No it isn't, again, there are advantages and disadvantages to both and Ferrari already have a stable platform under braking and good mechanical grip, their main suspension issue was bad tyre wear, but that is still a matter of optimisation, not suspension concept .
The reason other teams are copying it is purely because the fastest car has it, but an optimised push rod can be just as good as an optimised pull rod, they both have their strengths and weaknesses
@zeberto1986
Exactly, Newey essentially stated the opposite to that ferrari guy and i know who i would trust on this one. The man who has knocked it out of the park with the current regs and is pretty much the expert on ground effect in this day and age takes it any day of the week. And yeah, aero is for people who pretty much got the engine where it needs to be and look for more performance. That Enzo guy was quite a simpleton for stating that nonsense on engines.
@EntropicExergy same thing I literally just said but you chose to ignore;
"It's a bad translation/out of context, he's saying that pull rod vs push rod is overrated and that both can work if designed well in different areas, advantages and disadvantages. Most of his work this year has been in redesigning the rear suspension internals so he obviously doesn't think suspension is overrated"
"Robust platform" Is the front wheel sturdy enough to take out the rear wheels of the other f1 cars without significant damage?
It doesn't look like a Babybell anymore. Glorious!
My takeaway, RB will win both titles in 24, McLaren/AM (well Fernando alone) will fight for 2, Ferrari/Merc will fight for 4th and Haas will finish last.
Sounds about right.
Ferrari is gonna be obviously faster than Merc in quali but Strategies and race Pace will go to merc and mclaren probably is gonna struggle at the behinning of the season like last season but of course Not that worse
didnt age very well
We cant accurately predict how the car will perform yet, but at least for me, its one of if not the best looking car of the ground-effect era
Premature tire wear and strategy mistakes really hurt my team last, if they haven't figured those issues out they will have a hard time competing with Ferrari and Mclaren as I assume Red Bull will have another dominant season.
Now if they can get all four tires out for pitstops, they should be a team that contests for 2nd overall, again.
Other teams goes with pushrod at the back to copy RB.
But if i have to chose if finishing 2nd copying RB or finishing 2nd taking my own way, i prefer 1000 times the 2nd option, it's the only one that can give you some positive (as negative) surprises. Instead copying the original will not be profitable, cause RB is two years forward that concept.
Great choice from Ferrari
But will they finish second? The only reason they finish in the top 3 is because they have deep pockets, most other teams don't meaning they just copy whatever works best to cut costs of development.
@@victortoba-ogunleye4056there's a budget cap
@@victortoba-ogunleye4056
1. There's budget cap
2. The difference in personnel and structure between top teams and the others is so huge that ifna top team do a wrong car they will finish 2nd or 4th at max. And also in the scenario Ferrari will end 4th is better to end there following your own path than copying others not knowing different ways of development, cause only the 1st won, ending 2nd or 4th doesn't really matter.
How many championships for Cardile? That's right, i wouldn't listen to him all that much. I'd rather hear Newey talk, who has shown that he knows how to design championship winning cars and has to be considered as the expert on ground effect at this time.
Just love the white and yellow stripes❤.
I'm a McLaren fan but ultimately what I want to see most is a competitive season, I don't much care who it is between (although obviously would prefer McLaren) but just anything other than 1 driver / 1 team dominance.
Love the livery. Bold of them to keep pull rod on the posterior suspension. Let's see how this will play out.
It seems to me Ferrari is betting on their tire deg/ race pace issues were an aero or CoP problem. I hope they are right, we need someone to challenge Redbull this year. But I think they are going to be the only team with this suspension configuration still, it has me worried. This launch car seems awful conservative when others are going bold.
Ferarri, mclaren,mercedes,aston ALL challenged RB in 23.
It was max that wasnt challenged.
Big difference
@@karl8805 well when I speak of Redbull I am obviously referring to Max lol
A lots of haters in the book of haters to Ferrari, who are scared from upcoming hurricane from Italy and overtaking F1titles from RB , i think even The Race is high ranking on that haters list :) idk, just saying
I can hear yelling sound inside my brain from Hamilton from 2025 onwards
GP2!
Can't wait for;
"my tires are gone"
"we are checking......box....stay out stay out stay out"
@@JonnoHR31in Italian
Ferrari had a fast car last season especially on a Saturday, on race days it was tough on tyres. I reckon this season they'll be challenging more for wins as long as LeClerc's bad luck has changed. Sainz has nothing to loose too so we could see fireworks. 👍
It’s a good concept but to beat red bull you have to also match there ridiculous straight line speed not just corner exits
PAINT !!!! IT HAS PAINT !!!!! That's all We Need in Formula One and Ferrari has given us just that.
F1: We have paint
And AMR
LH is cooked. He made the *ultimate* boo boo by leaving Mercedes to go to a team notoriously known for making horrendously questionable strategy calls and having poor reliability.
It's a bit like eating cereal and consciously choosing a fork over a spoon. 💀
I wish he'd just piss off
7:05 isn't this similar to what he said about last year's car?
Very nice car and quite similar to Aston Martin's...
I hope Ferrari hasn’t messed this up
keep it up do a 2024 prediction
As a Ferrari fan I love that we don't go with the grain and we try to stay unique...
However if you stick to old ways in design and management due to ego then it's not being unique.
Whats the mini nacker duct in the nose for Ferrari, does that have somthing to do with the halo side exits?? 🤔 😊❤
Driver cooling
The duct in the nose is for the driver cooling. The lower side exit on the halo is a S-duct, with the entrance to it being on the floor underneath the undercut. Its taking messy air from the side of the chassis and cleaning it up before feeding it into the sidepod trench.
The upper appendage is just a aero appendage
In fact, this car is very bold. Instead of copying Red Bull to a large extent like all the others, it retains its own concepts (inwash in front of the rear wheels thanks to retracted sidepods at the rear, narrow aurbox and centerline) and improves this with already proven solutions and clever detail improvements. Evolution instead of revolution. That's how you win titles. Not by copying others. So it's also completely wrong to say that this car is a complete departure from the previous two cars, sorry. To say that is complete nonsense because the basic concept is still the same one that was introduced with the F1-75 2022. Narrow centerline to maximize the rear wing and beam wings as well as inwash sidepods (the sidepods are retracted in the rear area, so they run inwards, which causes inwash), even if they were combined with downwash. So it's basically the same concept that has "only" been further developed and combined with known solutions from others to hopefully get the best of both worlds. Evolution instead of revolution. And that's how you win titles in F1. Not by throwing everything overboard every year and starting from scratch or blindly copying another concept.
One other thing I would like to point out - with regard to anti-dive/anti-squat, only the upper angle of the wishbones is used to determine this. However, you are aware that the angle of the lower wishbones also plays a role (actually, this should be completely clear, because it is also attached to the car and therefore has the same influence). Therefore, Red Bull's anti-dive value on the front suspension is not as high as some seem to believe thanks to the F1 media.
One more thing - Fred Vasseur's Ferrari...yes it is. But it is also a further development of the concept that was introduced under Binotto (inwash in front of the rear wheels, narrow centerline, etc.).
You should do the exact same video for HAAS. I fear that it will really cement their last place position again this year. Sad that HAAS has such little chances of getting better.
If this car fails , I would think Sir Lewis will be a little worried
Can't be worse than what will happen with Mercedes. If he had any confidence in Merc he wouldn't leave. It's not surprising he has no confidence in them. Merc, and even more so AMG, have been bleeding top people. With new engines coming in 2026, Merc will be so screwed. The engine is what gave them all those titles. It's not that their aero was so fantastic.
If I would have to pick a team that is most likely to become top dog in the next few years, I would say McLaren is the most likely one outside of the current top dog. But they are happy with their young driver lineup and have no place for Hamilton.
For some unknowen reason I have never been a McLaren fan even with their on road cars, yes they do have a good team , red cars go fast 😂
@@frederickgent1918 from time to time I like McLaren. I liked them when Häkkinen and Coulthard was there and then later when Button was there.
He should be worried. So many great drivers have gone to Ferrari and failed. The team seems to be toxic when it comes to drivers and nearly always has been. Only Lauda and Schumacher ever got to grips with the team and they were both exceptional talents when it came to working with engineers. I'm not sure Hamilton has quite the same skill set as those guys. He is just a great driver when given the right tools. The last two seasons have exposed his weaknesses in not so good machinery.
@whatwhatyep there has been a few changes at the helm of that team ,I to am a little sceptical on the success of Lewis too
Actually 2023 car was Red Bull level on one-lap pace. The problem was that they were completely destroying tyres after few laps.
The goal of 2024 car was to solve this problem
The car looks nice. Lets hope it works.
He sounds like Mike Elliot did at Mercedes in 2022. "suspension plays no role, it only holds the wheels in place". There is a reason that Newey owned 1 job with the RB. He knew the importance of suspension. The Ferrari designer needs to go
Except Cardile didn’t say it plays no role, Ferrari’s entire point is that as long as the suspension mechanically does what you need it to, everything else about it is a packaging and aero choice.
Last year’s car was not competitive, but who was against Red Bull. It’s important to mention Ferrari was the only non Red Bull car to win a race, and did it in a very impressive fashion too.
with them making changes to basically prep for lewis ive been wondering how thatll affect sainz specifically throughout this season. with leclerc staying i assume theyll ofc be taking his input. As for as sainz though i wonder if theyll just basically be using him as a glorified guinea pig to test the changes for hamilton. i also wonder if theyre really going to be chasing wins this year or just be solely focused on improving as much as they can to get set in for the 25-26 season.
I was hoping for a white front wing like the V10 cars (I miss you)
That would require paint. That wouldbe unthinkable in current era
Where did you find the videos of the sf-24?
I notice a slightly general hate against Ferrari in this thread…. 😂. Very tasty today though. 😆
Love the livery ❤
I’m worried that the suspension is an underlying problem
Adrian newey- the floor and suspension are the most important components on these new cars.
Ferrari-suspension is overrated😂😂😂
Holy shit
I would Listen to newey instead of ferrari
We haven't been able to simulate last year's car and setup - let's follow our simulations and do something very different from all the other teams 😅 hope they got it right 🤞
one important thing about this video is that Ferrari scored more points in the 2nd half of the season since 2012....Magic Alonso kind of things...
No matter how good of a car Ferrari has they are gonna mess up at pits
Last Race they were perfect
@@fqeagles21time traveller definitely kicked a pebble
they rly dont, youre mistaking their strategy with pit stops. last time i check theyre right there with rb as 2nd fastest pit stop throughout the season
@@bojngsrll8644nah there strategies is making them do multiple pits that's what I am talking about
Oh Lord do I hope it’s fast 😭😭
Is the token system still in play?
Believe that stopped in 2022.
People say that Ferrari has a tyre eating problem, qhich is true, but that's not the issue... They have an issue with identifying the cars strenghts and weaknesses and working to capitalise on them... F. E. they knew that Leclerc is a one lap man and that the car destroyed tires, and they kept putting him on a long stint hard tyre strategy for most of the season, which was pretty unreasonable
i just wish we can have a good base to build. I'd be happy with a top3 race car.
Feels like next year is gonna be a trial to make a full run the following year with a better and reliable car for LH joining
Deluded
Wish the new 2026 Ferrari engine is a monster which can then compensate their car building weakness against RB. Else I do not see any chance of Ferrari winning any time soon.
Now they have all to be a double champions! 🏎️
Wait a minute. Cardile says aerodynamics matters more, yet they choose the option that allows less volume for the diffuser. How does that make sense?
9:37 LOL Lance Stroll contracts just ROLLING.
This thing looks rad
Looks great tbf!
i've been waiting for your video..
I'm sorry but if Newey says suspension is critical and very important, and Cardile says it is "overrated". I think I trust the best designer of all time more. Seems like Ferrari have messed it up again
Yes but newey meant that getting suspension right is critical, no matter the concept, Ferrari have their front suspension right and have redesigned their rear suspension to be improved this year and get it closer to being right, whereas Cardille is saying that suspension CONCEPT is overrated, its not one is right, one is wrong, they both have trade offs and he obviously doesn't think suspension itself is overrated considering most of the redesign went into the rear suspension internals for better balance. Try to view stuff from a non sensationalised perspective. Ferrari were still on average second fastest last year and had good mechanical grip and braking balance with the alternate suspension concept.
Newey was talking about the combination suspension/floor. Cardile is right, no matter what suspension you would to use, it them work well with the type of floor concept you have, they will work both in simbiosys, no matter if push or pull.
Exactly @@solinvictus1234
The wording was tweaked,no way an engineer would say that,not even in less series
3 months in it will be obvious their rod design is a limitation, 3 months later they may admit it.
this comment didnt age very well
@@lecanardexuberant Hasn't aged at all.
Still feel like the outstanding issue is teams trying to build a car that can compete with RB while looking over the issue that what makes the RB so fast is Max. Max can take a car that is just on the limits on controllable and drive it on that limit, consistently. Checo isn't as fast because of how loose the car is. So chasing RB while Max in one of them is a wild concept. If you build a more stable car, its safer and protects you from issues when a driver can't control it. If they keep copying RB it still won't matter. Build a car thats stable first, then work in the tweaks that a driver can learn to push. Max's skillset is to high to match. Cars were pretty close when Checo was driving, so most teams are close. Think Merc makes huge strides and Rari loses out to Mclaren.
the factor which makes RBR a great car is, it has more operational window of peak performance. The other teams don't have such wide operational windows to play with. This gives RBR and immensely predictable car which in-turn enables Max to push the car to the limit. Since other team always has to always dial in their setting to the dot, their drivers cannot push the car to the fullest.There are drivers on the grid with much greater skill than max namely Alonso and lewis. Monaco qualifying was way to close for RBR's liking. Given a predictable car, lewis and Alonso blows max out of any wins.
I can't agree with you on Alonso and Lewis having more skill. RB can make a car that is much more harder to control. The advantage to that is, with a highly skilled driver, you can get more out of it. Later on the brakes, earlier on throttle on the way out. The tighter the car, the more distance needed to brake and more throttle control on the way out. RB has anti dive and anti squat, why? BC Max can control it. Checo struggles with it. Merc and Aston don't set the cars up for that
1. Its risky, you put more on the driver to control the car then the car to control the driver. You can have a faster can, but the driver needs to be able to reaction to the oversteers and be able to be on the absolute limit of the brake pedal without locking. Lewis and Alonso could prolly control a car similar to RB but its not worth the risk. One miss snap and one lock up can ruin the race. Max seems super comfortable being on the knife edge with the limits.
2. RB's car is setup to get the most out of Max using it. Its why Checo struggles. its not because he is a bad driver, he just isn't as fast as Max at reaction to changes in car feel. Max is also on Lewis's level of tire management. Being able to keep up lap times with out hurting tires. IMO Lewis is still the master at that, but since the car isn't as "fast" he needs to put more into each lap and it eats at the tires more. Max has it dialed on late braking and getting the car to rotate. He has mastered that better then anyone.
3. Max is a level above everyone else. RB saw it coming and built a car to showcase that 100-110%. Put everyone in a HAAS and chances are they are within .001 they are that close in skill, but build a car that can brake later and power out faster but at the risk of oversteer and understeer, Max is on of the few that can balance that the best right now. For lack of a better term, he is just feeling it. It comes to him so fast and he is able to input that back into the car instantly. Its like he doesn't have to think about it, he just does it. @@KJ_1611
Every team: Pushrod in the rear is better
Ferrari: No it is not because spaghetti.
They also lost the Viking Horns on the airbox, any idea why (aerodynamically)?
More robust: Minimal contacts have cost them too many points. Hope for it
I like what I hear from them, Ferrari for once sounds confident in their design and car and overall strategy
I always hold out hope for Ferrari to make a good car, but they always disappoint. Fingers crossed. 23 was such a great season, looking forward to the start of this season!
This page is slowly shifting from Mercedes fanboy page to Ferrari fanboy page because of Lewis lol
Of course it's important to note that by the time Vasseur arrived at Ferrari last year, the car design was pretty much frozen... This is the first "Vasseur Ferrari".
i really like your videos! as ferrari fans, we wanna see them fly again! hopefully this year we can win a view more races
You mean like how Leclerc flew off in Imola 22 or France 22? Yeah, i think no fan minds seeing that.
@@EntropicExergychill out bro it’s not that deep
@@kevinputhenpurackel722 I am not your brother, so cut that bro crap. And don't tell me to chill out, since you can see that i am having a bit of fun here if you actually read my post. I don't expect anyone posting such crappy posts as you do even knows what the word deep entails.
@@EntropicExergy damn who hurt you
@@kevinputhenpurackel722 Nothing, but the way you started that BS post was enough. I don't have a brother to begin with but if i did, he would not type as ridiculous as you do.
When come to Ferrari F1 car. The same narrative over and over again. 15 years since the last time they won the car championship. Start wining and Save the brand.
crazy about the matte finish
Damn! This has got to be one of the most zexy Ferrari out there
It will be utterly hilarious if everyone else ends up being better han ferrari and its directly related to this decision
Congrats on 1 million Subs
CMON VESSEUR YOU GOT THIS BUDDY
The race try not to blast Ferrari challenge (impossible)
And Scarbs tech too
Remind me how many decades they haven't won 😂 the only title they can get is in shooting themselves in the leg 😂
@@jakubknotek4891 the race blasted Ferrari in 2022 too,wasn’t that bad contrary to how they depicted it, BTW the race blasted Ferrari in 2017 and 2018, second best car those years