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  • @ThinkingFootball
    @ThinkingFootball  ปีที่แล้ว +43

    What do you want us to cover next week?

    • @victorkrueger5060
      @victorkrueger5060 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Matt Canada offense

    • @jacklarche6472
      @jacklarche6472 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      What happened to the Broncos defense last year vs this year

    • @Professor-of-Gaming
      @Professor-of-Gaming ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Examine the offenses of the 4 0-3 teams and rank them first to worst. As a panther fan, i'm certainly expecting closer to "Worst" than first.

    • @NAT-turners-Revenge
      @NAT-turners-Revenge ปีที่แล้ว +3

      *WHY* justin fields cant read a defense? *WHY* CJ stroud can be successful long term? *WHY* justin Jefferson is a top 3 receiver?

    • @shinachung7468
      @shinachung7468 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Can you break down the lions pass rush/their coverage?

  • @SkiDaBird
    @SkiDaBird ปีที่แล้ว +721

    I'd love to see a part 2 about how defenses are successfully handling this, once it starts happening.

    • @timonkeller8927
      @timonkeller8927 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      There will be no counter. Offenses will forever be broken

    • @Jamac007
      @Jamac007 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      The only way defences are going to catch up is if they nerf the motion.

    • @MILLERJ07051
      @MILLERJ07051 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      Maybe the patriots way of using more Dbs which could theoretically still hide man coverage if you switch

    • @KindredBrujah
      @KindredBrujah ปีที่แล้ว +57

      Masked coverage will probably be the solution. Always show man but sometimes play zone so the offence doesn't know what you're doing even with a motion. You'll need very versatile DBs to achieve this, though.

    • @Horible4
      @Horible4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Receivers are gonna be running back and forth and in circles in the backfield waiting for the ball to be snapped before the decade is over

  • @josephpullium5026
    @josephpullium5026 ปีที่แล้ว +172

    Understanding football on a deeper level has refined my perception on the sport. I don’t even trash talk about players anymore. Especially on defense. This game is so mental.

    • @graces5634
      @graces5634 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Its why most QBs and so many combine workout warriors don’t make it

  • @TheSmarq17
    @TheSmarq17 ปีที่แล้ว +152

    I used motion as a Pop Warner coach and was criticized by the local HS coach for being "too mental". I have never understood why teams of all levels didn't use motion more, especially at the snap. Shifts are also excellent at creating "speed vs slow" matchups. QB's, even at a Pop Warner level, should be able to read simple defensive movements if their coach understands how to explain their keys. With everyone always in copycat mode, these motions will soon be at every level - unless coaches continue to keep their heads buried in the sand.

    • @TheGuyCalledX
      @TheGuyCalledX ปีที่แล้ว +20

      It's crazy how after Shanahan took over, basically half the high school teams in the Bay Area started running a ton of concepts from his offense

    • @21Kolb
      @21Kolb ปีที่แล้ว +17

      too mental is crazy lol. i think he is intimidated by you.

    • @TheSmarq17
      @TheSmarq17 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@21Kolb I'm not sure but I remember he ran an offense that was basically; option right, option left, TE pop and All Go. At least that's all I remember seeing in the games I went to. Mainly his anger was since I refused to run his offense for my kids who were going to be freshmen the next year. I understood that but, since the kids really enjoyed the offense, I stuck with it for the few years I coached. We won with it as well.

    • @theboxingtrainingnetwork
      @theboxingtrainingnetwork ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree

    • @masonC01
      @masonC01 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@TheSmarq17 its because the freshmen probably tried telling him to add your plays. No one enjoys running option every play lmao

  • @R41D3RNAT10N
    @R41D3RNAT10N ปีที่แล้ว +18

    This was EASILY the most informative explanation of NFL route/motion concepts I’ve ever seen. Thank you!

  • @sunshizzleyou
    @sunshizzleyou ปีที่แล้ว +149

    A huge part of this is just how talented the players in Miami or SF are. You’re seeing a lot of teams attempt to copy this but simply don’t have the players to execute it. Speed of Hill, Waddle and the RB’s combined with Tua’s quick processing speed and accuracy allow this to happen.
    Green Bay just ran a similar outwards motion with Musgrave and it was just slow and clunky.

    • @t4d0W
      @t4d0W ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Exactly. The motion concept was always there but the Fins have speed demons on WR/RB and the Niners have the Avengers lineup around Purdy where they essentially have 3 RBs who can run from the backfield. Teams who realized the kind of talent they have in the roster have the ability to elevate the idea into a very strong cheat code. In some cases for the Chiefs they have a creative play caller/designer in Reid who can execute stuff like that easy for his team (for getting the defense to show their coverage). While other play callers struggle even trying to implement and sell motion for their offense.

  • @mobrule8219
    @mobrule8219 ปีที่แล้ว +76

    Every team would motion on every play if it was easy. I do not recall the Dolphins committing a single pre snap penalty so far which is amazing with how complicated their offense is.

    • @Vincent-ht9it
      @Vincent-ht9it ปีที่แล้ว +9

      And we committed so many illegal shift/motion penalties last year in the first year of McDaniel’s offense

    • @VaanRavi
      @VaanRavi ปีที่แล้ว +8

      They still commit them. More then half the time hill or waddle is moving forwarding in motion. Can't do that

    • @mobrule8219
      @mobrule8219 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@VaanRavi Sure, it's all a grand conspiracy by the NFL to allow Dolphins to cheat... good call, not. The 49ers and the Dolphins are doing this with RBs, TEs and WRs as they know the snap count so they can plant a foot and cut right at the snap and use momentum to evade / defeat stationary defenders. See how it could not be utilized as effectively in Buffalo because of the crowd noise, which was epic yesterday? Game ball for the Bills Mafia.

    • @beeaggro2593
      @beeaggro2593 ปีที่แล้ว

      last year, not this year@@VaanRavi

    • @andrewlorenzo6611
      @andrewlorenzo6611 ปีที่แล้ว

      last year they did @@VaanRavi

  • @jppagetoo
    @jppagetoo ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Ben Johnson is definitely doing all of this. Maybe not to the extent the Dolphins are but it is all over the Lions offense. The Lions also run and pass from the same sets and motion. It is hard to know what the Lions will do based on pre-snap reads. I haven't watched Miami becasue the are not on TV around here, but wow, they are good.

  • @craigcampbell8560
    @craigcampbell8560 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    The Chiefs have been motion heavy for years. While motion can be used to confuse defenses, it's even more useful as a way to read a defense pre-snap. It pressures defenses because you can use motion to overload a side, then snap the ball while the defense is still trying to adjust to the formation. The Chiefs 2 short TD passing plays "Corn Dog" were both designed to take advantage of the way the Eagles would adjust to motion. The result was two WIDE open TD's in goal line offense in the Superbowl. Even if defenses "figure it out" we'll always see motion because it will never become useless.

    • @TrollingstonJohn
      @TrollingstonJohn ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I was going to comment on this. Don’t act like the Fins are the ones perfecting this, Chiefs have been doing this with MASSIVE success for years

    • @HoonTurd
      @HoonTurd ปีที่แล้ว +2

      phew good comment dude for a second the dolphins had a nice thing going for them, glad we could bring the chiefs into the conversation

    • @TheMedic1216
      @TheMedic1216 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The Joe Gibbs Redskins did this quite often, in the 80’s and early 90’s as well.

    • @TrollingstonJohn
      @TrollingstonJohn ปีที่แล้ว

      @@HoonTurd oh I know, I just want the chiefs to win one more superbowl, then i'll shut up

    • @jjay__
      @jjay__ ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TheMedic1216 yes, and the shanahans too

  • @dc2717
    @dc2717 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    My compliments and thanks to you. Very well done! Graphics, analysis, voice over, all excellent. And no annoying music😊

  • @cowboyevan
    @cowboyevan ปีที่แล้ว +27

    I really wish the official broadcasts used the more zoomed out camera angle. Watching the live game you can’t see any routes and are forced to just watch the QB. Feels like i’m missing half of the game

    • @jayschafer1760
      @jayschafer1760 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I'm sure the NFL considers that issue to be a feature, not a bug. Gotta pay them a bunch more money if you want to see the all-22 or the end zone angles.

    • @cowboyevan
      @cowboyevan ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jayschafer1760 How does one access that?

    • @removedot
      @removedot ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jayschafer1760 there reason given for a longtime was because people would be too critical of QBs

  • @MurkTempers
    @MurkTempers ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It’s such a unique balance between using the motion and not. If you’re dead 50/50 on using it/not, there’s no way the defense can know if you are GOING to motion. Meaning they have to be ready to defend what you give. Then, they have to also know every single possibility you can motion INTO. It’s one player on the offense causing complete chaos for the entire 11 men on defense. Really cool stuff, how simple yet effective it is

  • @MattTrussell
    @MattTrussell ปีที่แล้ว +9

    As a Carolina fan, I am shocked that it's possible to run anything other than Run, Run, Screen behind the line of scrimmage, punt.

    • @monz7951
      @monz7951 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same here Steelers fan lol

  • @Quivver77
    @Quivver77 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    You guys make the best breakdowns! Keep up the great work!

  • @kiroolioneaver8532
    @kiroolioneaver8532 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The CFL has always already allowed mutliple players to be in motion behind the line of scrimmage before the snap (know colloquially as "the waggle" lol)

  • @tapecentral4936
    @tapecentral4936 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Your videos are incredible brother. Please never stop, I will watch them for AGES. You break down such complex concepts very effectively

  • @dpscribe
    @dpscribe ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank You for the video on the concept of motion for the pass and run on offense.

  • @bpnation37
    @bpnation37 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    All this motion is just so hard to defend, it really messes with the rules of coverage especially these days where most defenses are running match zones instead of true zones.

  • @greghmn
    @greghmn ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This would be a golden opportunity for CFL coaches and players to take their chances in a far more lucrative league. In the CFL, anyone behind the line can move in any direction up to and including the time of the snap. Subtract the QB and 7 line players from the 12 per side and that's up to 4 guys in motion, often running go routes full tilt, synchronized to pass the line of scrimmage a fraction of a second after the snap. Insight into how to adapt this to the NFL's game as well as stop it would be invaluable to the far richer organizations south of the border. This is truly the game before the game within the game, and it'll be fun to see the ongoing struggle between offensive and defensive units across the league.

  • @marke.1021
    @marke.1021 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wonderful job of explaining this, graphics are so so helpful. Glad you were able to find the footage and put graphics in it and not over complicate things.

  • @maskedman5657
    @maskedman5657 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    As much a problem for passing Greg Roman was on offense he made motioning at the snap the norm for that absolute killer run game.

  • @mikaelpaul7900
    @mikaelpaul7900 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent video. Every time I watch your channel, I feel as if I am up to date on what is going on in the N.F.L.

  • @nborynack
    @nborynack ปีที่แล้ว

    Love these videos. So cool to learn evreything that goes into play design. The depth of knowledge and breakdown blows my mind as your average armchair enthusiast!

  • @MWBowen403
    @MWBowen403 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Dolphin's run game is a thing of beauty. Best of luck to them for the rest of the season.

  • @SyWoit
    @SyWoit ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The browns defense has experimented with motion on their line a little bit during the titans game which is pretty interesting

    • @joshlewis575
      @joshlewis575 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'll never understand why the defensive coordinators aren't nearly as innovative as the offensive ones. Like how do we never see a 1-4-6, or 2-3-6 on 3 & long. Like last night 3 & 22 if only have 1 guy is rushing there u can play man and still spy the qb.

    • @t4d0W
      @t4d0W ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@joshlewis575 Because not every defense has the the elite talent to simplify things when the offense complicates it at the last minute. The 2006 Bears defense just played cover 3 on early downs to get teams to late passing downs. So they can sit on tampa 2/inverted cover 3 to defend the pass. And have Urlacher be the best tight end in those situations covering the zone under the safeties. Hell not every team can successfully rush 4 nowadays on late passing downs. Let alone have great talents in coverage to rush 3/drop back 1 to spy against someone slippery like Mahomes.

  • @tedwilliams7006
    @tedwilliams7006 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video as always!
    I'm curious if any NFL defenses are successfully fooling offenses in similar scenarios. Are there any defenses that will send a man into movement to track an offensive player in motion but still maintain a zone defense at the snap? Or is that a little too chaotic for a defense?

  • @hansmeyer1991
    @hansmeyer1991 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This makes me appreciate football so much more. I am a completely casual watcher, never played a snap in my life. Crazy what goes into running these schemes and what the players are aware aof.

  • @leecowell8165
    @leecowell8165 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Thank you for the many explains I had no clue WHY Miami is so effective. Sure they have the speed but if people are out of position and/or indecisive that speed is all the more effective. Yeah a copy cat league next year everybody will be using motion but they still don't have the speed of Miami. Miami is also a step ahead at executing motion. A lot less penalty because they don't screw it up very often. And Tua is cerebral a lotta people do not realize this. This guy catches on quick thus not every QB has his mental quickness and it shows. This is why most offenses are gonna have a tough time implementing this much motion. All players need to be on the same page we layman have no idea wtf is going on with these professionals.

    • @connorboyle3027
      @connorboyle3027 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Shanahan and McVay been using tons of motion successfully since like 2018 without the same speed that Miami has. Miami has taken it to another level not just with the speed but it’s the short motions from slot to outside receiver and vice versa which doesn’t give defenses enough time to adjust since it isn’t a full field motion.

    • @theboxingtrainingnetwork
      @theboxingtrainingnetwork ปีที่แล้ว

      Agreed lol

  • @miche1df
    @miche1df 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    11:30 some real wing-T vibes from that play (looks like the wing reverse off of buck sweep action), really nasty

  • @stevetornovish6632
    @stevetornovish6632 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fantastic presentation. Thanks for this.

  • @300jet
    @300jet ปีที่แล้ว

    Once again a superb analysis. Just outstanding!

  • @Atlas-pn6jv
    @Atlas-pn6jv ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Packers, when they were more competitive, also used a LOT of motion plays. They had someone in motion in almost every snap.

  • @CxDubxU
    @CxDubxU ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Before Sean McVay, the jet sweep motion was only a novelty in the league

    • @benguensche
      @benguensche ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Andy reid has done this forever dude

  • @slumped378
    @slumped378 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Sean McDermott is one of the greatest defensive minds in the NFL.

    • @jeremycullen
      @jeremycullen ปีที่แล้ว

      i just wish he was 13 seconds better against the chiefs :(

    • @beeaggro2593
      @beeaggro2593 ปีที่แล้ว

      tbf he didnt need to do shit

  • @kevincurry8350
    @kevincurry8350 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I always thought the 99 to early 2000s Rams utilized shifts and motions very well. I used to like watching all the shifts and motions they made prior to snapping the ball. It had some opposing defenses scrambling, trying to figure out who to match up against.

  • @ComfortablyNumbb130
    @ComfortablyNumbb130 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Motion has always been a way to give the offense advantages whether it shows coverage scheme or gains a favorable matchup. The Dolphins are using the burst motion that moves the slot guy outside. Ive seen offenses around the league adapt this motion. But as always Defense will adapt

  • @mikegresko7144
    @mikegresko7144 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    it’s gonna sound stupid for a second but this is a modern evolution of old school schemes and option based offenses

  • @washburnbilly
    @washburnbilly ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I had no idea that it was this complicated? But then again I'm not a huge fan, but i do enjoy watching the Lions when I get the chance. Great video brother 👍

  • @FuturisticFishbowl
    @FuturisticFishbowl ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Watching this is funny to me. As a Canadian, our football has motion on every single play because of the rule differences. It's crazy to me that motion is an innovative thing in the NFL

    • @shapeshifter8778
      @shapeshifter8778 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I started to watch CFL from about last season. And from what I can see, is that CFL is more dynamic. The forward motion plays big part in my opinion. Also the rules regarding to kick/return and onside kick. It is possible to score touchdown from a placekick or punt. Or just to get fresh set of downs.

    • @FuturisticFishbowl
      @FuturisticFishbowl ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@shapeshifter8778 Glad you're enjoying it! It's definitely a lot different than the NFL, there are way more ways to throw the defense off, hence the need for only 3 downs.

  • @Aidanmaharaj
    @Aidanmaharaj 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Mike McDaniels watched a couple of CFL games for sure. In Canada only two receivers have to be set the rest ALWAYS motion. This always makes the passing game and offense in general more explosive which is why is is balanced as a 3 down game making it more fair

  • @iansze2652
    @iansze2652 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The CFL has been doing this for ages, where all receivers can go in motion prior to the snap.

    • @James-vj5hz
      @James-vj5hz ปีที่แล้ว +1

      As a Canadian, pre snap motion just seems normal to me.

    • @ernestogastelum9123
      @ernestogastelum9123 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      it used to happen in the NFL when QBs were pocket passers and had to use their brain more

  • @Joshua-uw7wm
    @Joshua-uw7wm ปีที่แล้ว

    This is what I love about football it's so complicated and intricate

  • @Fishmanistan
    @Fishmanistan ปีที่แล้ว

    I thought I was seeing more motion this year than I was used to. Noticed it during Lions Chiefs and haven't been able to shake the thought since.

  • @22bmorse
    @22bmorse 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So I’m a student college basketball coach, and I think one thing I’ve really noticed is how much football and basketball sygerize a lot of movements and motions. I think an easy example is every team has a full out of bounds play where you essentially run a Hail Mary, easy example, but from a deeper level I feel like the Virginia motion offense uses the same principles as the route schemes in some parts of this video. A lot of the Virginia offense is based around making quick reads, and rotating around what are called stagger screens. Essentially a stagger is a couple of screens meant to throw off the defender , I see a lot of this is slip routes and leverage routes. And if it doesn’t work you “flip” the offense, which gives you looks on the opposite wing, almost line a check down. So overall, just interesting if anyone sees where im coming from.

  • @702TifosiGambler
    @702TifosiGambler 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    3:20 Mike McDaniels has some serious balls to throw an out route to the short side of the field after running clear out motion
    to the short side of the field.

  • @charredolive
    @charredolive ปีที่แล้ว

    I wish this exact video was out 5 years ago when I was playing Madden like crazy

  • @Gmoneygrip1960
    @Gmoneygrip1960 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks it all seems so simple for the great teams

  • @chefchefchef
    @chefchefchef ปีที่แล้ว

    Same with kelce too, missed week 1 but still has top receptions, they literally just have him walking around till they snap the ball 😂

  • @Avedominusnox8311
    @Avedominusnox8311 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This man is the Jimmyhighroller of the NFL and I love it

  • @NAT-turners-Revenge
    @NAT-turners-Revenge ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Teams can attempt to copycat the dolphins motions, however, do they have an accurate/patient qb? Do they have agile speedsters at RB/WR etc.
    So, I see many teams having marginal success with the motion concept.

    • @benguensche
      @benguensche ปีที่แล้ว

      The chiefs have been successfully doing this for a long time. This isnt some new thing the dolphins just came up with

    • @contextt4w
      @contextt4w ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@benguensche We found a Chiefs fan, everybody

    • @deanmarten
      @deanmarten ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@benguensche actually, if you pay attention to breakdowns from analysis's they've added several totally new wrinkles.

    • @benguensche
      @benguensche ปีที่แล้ว

      @@deanmarten if i add some wrinkles to my running game, did i reinvent the running game?

    • @deanmarten
      @deanmarten ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@benguensche who said he invented the passing game? I said the Dolphins have added some very innovative wrinkles. Wrinkles, which in the 104 year history of the NFL are very new and different. Dude, they just scored 70pts. Let's not act like that was a fluke. You don't drop 70 on a fluke.

  • @kingdomcitizenship5613
    @kingdomcitizenship5613 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Back in the day, therecwas the West Coast offense, Run and Gun, Ground and Pound, etc. But now, literally every offense plays the same.

  • @ethanmcdonald3383
    @ethanmcdonald3383 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’ve notice Miami and Detroit use a ton of motion this season!

    • @t4d0W
      @t4d0W ปีที่แล้ว

      Makes sense for the Lions too. The athleticism of their O-line for run blocking besides their talent is top notch. So they can do various ways of run blocking including pin and pull that not many teams can afford for their run game.

  • @falkkiwiben
    @falkkiwiben 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm a rugby fan who knows nothing about this sport, but I still want to thank the algorithm for bringing me here

  • @raycapetillo5569
    @raycapetillo5569 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Fantastic breakdown!

  • @victorfranca85
    @victorfranca85 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love the proper voice over tone in these vids. I would sound like a banshee if it were me doing the voice over. Now, develop a British accent to do nature documentaries. I only watch nature documentaries in British. Non negotiable

  • @jameskuhns3544
    @jameskuhns3544 ปีที่แล้ว

    What's wild is how a lot of these that you call wide open still require precise timing to complete before the defense covers it back up. A lot of the people dismissing Tua (or even Purdy) act like the motion makes it trivial, but if that was the case the Dolphins would score 70 every week

    • @t4d0W
      @t4d0W ปีที่แล้ว

      I think people don't understand there are also levels to this. At baseline what the motion does is not only get the best athlete the mismatch (Hill for Fins, Deebo for Niners, etc.) prior to the snap but helps reveal the coverage pre-snap. So even a QB who is good at reading his targets can be confident to make a great decision and step in to throw even if the coverage look changes up a bit post snap. And for good play caller/designers, the other guys are just as good targets to throw to if they have the mismatch themselves (TE vs a small corner sitting in zone, etc.) Fins dropping 70 points is just a scenario unique to them given the athletes they have. For the Niners its just getting mismatches and CMC ripping explosives on the ground.

  • @jplummer
    @jplummer ปีที่แล้ว

    Pats have reacted to the motion/man check by staying put but reassigning themselves pre-snap. They don't always do this, in an attempt to blunt the effect of the motion/man check.

  • @markgraham2312
    @markgraham2312 ปีที่แล้ว

    This piece was excellent.

  • @YungKilla46
    @YungKilla46 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very informative video. Thank you!

  • @LaVieDeReine86
    @LaVieDeReine86 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent analysis. Although at 6:30 let's be honest, you and I could shut our eyes and gently toss the ball past that Broncos defence.

    • @sunshizzleyou
      @sunshizzleyou ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That game looked like actual broncos fighting actual dolphins in the ocean.

  • @crow3y__c584
    @crow3y__c584 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The Skyy Moore play was absolutely beautiful.

  • @TheOriginalKings
    @TheOriginalKings ปีที่แล้ว

    Not only does motion cause confusion, but in Miami's case, players with elite speed in motion can be scary for a defense. Having played CB, I can tell you firsthand that a player running full tilt in my direction before the ball is snapped can be terrifying. Fins up!!!! Let's go!!!!

    • @localppc242
      @localppc242 ปีที่แล้ว

      Speed and Motion did nothing for those Fins, on Sunday

    • @TheOriginalKings
      @TheOriginalKings ปีที่แล้ว

      @@localppc242 I’m more disappointed in the defense. It’s awful. The scheme is suspect and the “bend but don’t’ break” ideology is not how defense should be played.

  • @justdirt
    @justdirt 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Motion was just one of those quirks in the rules that people have been waiting for teams to start really using.
    As time passes, an offense ultizing the lateral in set plays seems more likely to happen

    • @jamesh684
      @jamesh684 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's just really risky. The worst thing an offense can do is turn the ball over quickly and force their defense back on without enough rest.

  • @Jmurda1983
    @Jmurda1983 ปีที่แล้ว

    It’s also a lot harder to play press coverage on a man that is in motion

  • @21Kolb
    @21Kolb ปีที่แล้ว +2

    all of this is not possible without great protection. Wish my steelers had a competent offensive line.

    • @t4d0W
      @t4d0W ปีที่แล้ว

      A sound play caller who doesn't put his personnel in bad spots can also work magic. Bobby Slowik (from the Niners working with Shanahan) is a first time play caller for the Texans and got their offense to put 30 on the Steelers defense. Meanwhile Matt Canada put a pitiful 6 points against a Texans defense which isn't noteworthy.

  • @hadbl12
    @hadbl12 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love this.. part two please

  • @ryandaniels7917
    @ryandaniels7917 ปีที่แล้ว

    "the turf monster gets the center" ah come on man dude just wanted everyone to miss that

  • @fadercreek
    @fadercreek ปีที่แล้ว

    remember the ravens ray lewis and ed reed defenses when they use to all move around pre snap to confuse the qb and the whole offense that might be the best counter for that heavy motion offenses

    • @fadercreek
      @fadercreek ปีที่แล้ว

      @@basdfef4775 1st or 2nd superbowl?

  • @myosick
    @myosick ปีที่แล้ว

    It's crazy to me that teams haven't been taking advantage of the ability to motion at the snap for years. It has been an underutilized rule and it's an easy way to gain a big advantage. I think coaches like McDaniel are well-versed in game theory and that's the future of the league. Furthermore I can't wait to see where these guys take the game next. I think we're probably about 10 years away from seeing teams lean more into laterals once the ball carrier is into the secondary, sort of like running option concepts later into plays

  • @doodmonkey
    @doodmonkey ปีที่แล้ว

    Look back in time, when the wild cat was crazy, the only thing they had against the Pats during that time.

  • @_Farbs
    @_Farbs ปีที่แล้ว

    i haven’t watched the video yet but it just seems like a good idea getting a guy like tyreek hill a running start

  • @kevincharles1983
    @kevincharles1983 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Helps when you got the fastest players in the league.
    Edit: defenses will have to evolve

  • @theairevolution2430
    @theairevolution2430 ปีที่แล้ว

    awesome analysis!!!

  • @Jerico-fd2zk
    @Jerico-fd2zk 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Motion to read defense presnap with shift+ motion once set again. RPO calls can hot audible automatic

  • @catsfive
    @catsfive ปีที่แล้ว

    I don't watch football. AT ALL. What I DO watch, tho, is really awesome videos by experts explaining stuff. I enjoyed this a lot and learned a lot about new innovations in football offenses. The pendulum swings forever, don't it? Great job, man, skilled video, 100% thumbs up. :_

  • @meanmutton
    @meanmutton ปีที่แล้ว

    Great analysis!!!!

  • @peterpretentious
    @peterpretentious ปีที่แล้ว +32

    can you explain why every professional nfl team runs a screen pass on 3rd and long nowadays? like wtf is the logic

    • @fghddgg8060
      @fghddgg8060 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      I’d assume the logic behind it is that do it it being 3rd and long the secondary is probably going to play off, so maybe teams feel that that a guy in open space with a blocker or two is more likely to get across the sticks then actually trying to complete a pass downfield. Personally I still prefer throwing it past the sticks.

    • @dylanbudd9128
      @dylanbudd9128 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      The idea behind it is that there’s a very small chance the offense can convert, so they use the screen to give more space to the punt team. Or, if it’s in plus territory, the team may not try and convert a long first down but gain just enough to be in FG range

    • @qaaronrodgers2479
      @qaaronrodgers2479 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Because on 3rd and Long, if defense is playing 3 deep and rushing 4 you won’t have time to throw down the field. So a good zone beater is a screen pass.

    • @americanfootballacademy1741
      @americanfootballacademy1741 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Screens are Low Risk - High Reward plays so throwing a screen in an otherwise unlikely-to-convert situation is not a bad idea. The Dolphins and 49ers do this extremely well because they have some of the best athletes in the NFL. Most every OC I know (including myself) tries to replicate that but you really need to have the right guy.
      The alternative is to take an intermediate shot but depending on your QB, those are dangerous in that situation. A lot of those big chunk plays through the air (deep or intermediate) come when defenses have to defend both the run and the pass. When they only need to defend the pass and the DC has time to spice things up, incompletions and punts are more common.
      Another note is that if you have a 3rd & 15 and complete a screen for 12 yards, maybe you go for it on 4th. 4th & 3 is a lot more attractive than 4th & 15.

    • @treynoe4934
      @treynoe4934 ปีที่แล้ว

      The idea is they are playing off. As such if you trick the DL then there is a soft spot underneath the Defensive secondary. You then fill this with a ball carrier and blockers that are more suited to blocking on the second level then your typical receivers. Logically speaking you should expect a big play to pop and maybe get the first

  • @armychowmein8021
    @armychowmein8021 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    with Grubb at Seattle, do you perceive defenses will accelerate their adjustments to pre snap motion given how often UW ran pre-snap motion?

  • @lexxon11
    @lexxon11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is it difficult to install motion aspects into an offense and do you have to have more agile lineman?

  • @nickgutierrez83
    @nickgutierrez83 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's still so weird to me that the Miami Dolphins are legitimate offensive innovators right now. Except for like three weeks with the Wildcat, the Dolphins offense hasn't been interesting since Dan Marino retired, until now.

  • @NYTROOPA
    @NYTROOPA ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Buffalo Bills run second least motion in the NFL 🤦🏻‍♂️ They need to help Allen identify coverage.

    • @t4d0W
      @t4d0W ปีที่แล้ว

      Allen is an anomaly. Even if he's not a read monster, if he understand that Stefon Diggs is still 1v1 vs a guy he's been burning all day 30 yards downfield, he's chucking that shit deep.

  • @Unpluggeddddd
    @Unpluggeddddd 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Watching this after the Chiefs offensive offsides call versus the Bills.
    Isn’t presnap motion toward the line of scrimmage illegal?
    Unlike offensive offsides, presnap forward motion gives the offense a huge advantage. It’s why Canadian football can be so much fun to watch

  • @quincymitchell
    @quincymitchell ปีที่แล้ว

    Personally feel like motions are gonna be countered by the complete opposite on defense. Rather than following over across the field it’s gonna be a switch to a loose form of zone. With an emphasis on speedy db’s and linebackers yet really big dt’s and noseguards. Stuff the line for any runs with lineman that can take double teams and win. And defensive backs that can flip on a dime and break on the ball or offensive player with elite speed.

    • @t4d0W
      @t4d0W ปีที่แล้ว

      I still don't buy it. Conceptually Tyreek Hill on motion is already going faster going off the LoS than the DB responsible for him. And by the time he's hit his 10'ish yard landmark that same DB still hasn't pressed and has their hips open. Which signals to the QB that DB already lost and Hill will be a good target to get the ball to with what vertical route or slant he's on.

    • @quincymitchell
      @quincymitchell ปีที่แล้ว

      @@t4d0W i understand what you’re saying here. But hear me out. Say tyreek is coming across in a motion from the weak side of the field. The secondary would have to be extremely disciplined in how they communicate that motion to that strong side corner but with that he can start farther off the line. Yes he can’t jam since he isn’t pressed but he wouldn’t need to. Slide a nickel underneath and have the corners playing anything he runs deep. The nickel takes away any comeback routes and anything else underneath while chipping if tyreek continues upfield for a longer wheel route or go route. If the corner presses having safety help overtop takes anything deep away while the corner shadows with an inside leverage to take away post options and comeback routes. Easier said then done I know. But doable given the right team structure and coaching.

  • @robertgrady9020
    @robertgrady9020 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is good work 👍

  • @harrymills2770
    @harrymills2770 ปีที่แล้ว

    Seems like both KC and Miami are wise to the pre-snap motion ploys. Neither had much luck against the other in yards or scoring in Frankfurt.

  • @theboxingtrainingnetwork
    @theboxingtrainingnetwork ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent

  • @michaelblack6888
    @michaelblack6888 ปีที่แล้ว

    Kyle Shanahan has had motion built into pretty much every single play for the past decade and now all the sudden its a revolution. 🤣

  • @Roguedispatcher
    @Roguedispatcher 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I always thought the ref were missing clear illegal motions on these orbits and jet motions

  • @SJKRoberts
    @SJKRoberts ปีที่แล้ว

    My question is, didn’t Brady do this a ton in NE and TB? Is it personnel differences that make the dolphins and chiefs different?

  • @parrsnipps4495
    @parrsnipps4495 ปีที่แล้ว

    Offenses have to do something to get the defense going the wrong way. Ever notice how a Reverse will get on average about 8 yards? Double reverse same thing. But what do most teams do? Run up the middle for 1-2 yards. If I was a head coach, running up the middle would be out the door.

  • @larrylitmanen9877
    @larrylitmanen9877 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I am old enough to remember when the Dolphins went crazy with WildCat one year until Bill Belichick put an end to it. This year Bill is not in a position to do much but i am sure someone will take care of the Dolphins. I feel like Ravens are too good this year and Joe Flacco is ready too.

  • @AutumnReel4444
    @AutumnReel4444 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    As a fan of defense, I have complained about motion for years. Absolutely absurd rule.

    • @bluex610
      @bluex610 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Kind of like the tush push. Offense can do it for a qb sneak. But defense can't do it. Like wtf is that 😅

    • @leecowell8165
      @leecowell8165 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well offense creates watchable in this silly game. Remember the Fins back in the day when their run game was unstoppable? Yeah very BORING to watch them win games with scores like 17-14 with typical 8 minute drives. they won a SB 14-7 against Washington. That will NEVER happen again because of things like motion associated with smart QB's and team speed. Rules were changed to create more offense besides allowing motion. Sure back then DB's could punish WR's unmercifully at the line. Miami was famous for that. When that was taken away from them they never won another SB.

    • @pellevastano
      @pellevastano ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@bluex610 It was outlawed specifically on PATs and FGs because defenses were using it to murder long snappers on field goals. It was completely unsafe for the defenseless player, hence why that rule was in place. The Defense can counter push the rugby scrum as well. The fact Defensive Coordinators are not telling players to counter push is on them, and on average a defensive coordinator makes $1 million per year.
      And frankly, if you ban pushing, the Eagles are still converting like 90% of their QB sneaks. Sort of like how if you ban motions, the dolphins, 49ers and chiefs are going to start doing massive shifts instead, get the same information, and still have incredibly efficient offenses.

    • @t4d0W
      @t4d0W ปีที่แล้ว

      Defenses were always behind offenses even in the NFL. Didn't seem like it when only a few of the NFL offenses had a deep bag like Peyton and his ability to recognize defenses switch the playbook on his whim. But now the game is more about getting the ball to your best players so play callers have implemented methods like motion to not only get their best athletes started momentum wise but to exploit the basic coverage rules to expose defenses and get mismatches.

  • @memoriesofdaysgoneby2348
    @memoriesofdaysgoneby2348 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Over states the “brilliance” of offensive motion vs. individual defender break downs in execution. All these motion plays are useless against a PROPERLY STAFFED Bears 46.

  • @brownpeoplegetup1243
    @brownpeoplegetup1243 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great stuff, as always~

  • @willhartley5173
    @willhartley5173 ปีที่แล้ว

    Matt Canada watching this: so my motion jet sweeps ARE good

  • @withmessagesofvirtueiamunt2380
    @withmessagesofvirtueiamunt2380 ปีที่แล้ว

    Only breaks it if the script reads man goes in motion and defense goes completely stupid

  • @eddieesuarez
    @eddieesuarez ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The dolphins do not play on south beach. Stadium is in city of Miami Gardens. Not any where near SoBe.

  • @LMN22
    @LMN22 ปีที่แล้ว

    This made me wanna play some madden lol

  • @terrenceliburd8655
    @terrenceliburd8655 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The Cowboys fans were angry with Dan Quinn after Greenbay literally shreded his defence. And cried when he didnt have an adjustment for it. Problem is there is no adjustment for this offence, none. It's designed to gauge defences and get yards in chunks. Very large chunks!

  • @theairevolution2430
    @theairevolution2430 ปีที่แล้ว

    These offenses are not simple. There's a depth of responsibility and QB that has to understand A LOT of options and concepts. Tua admitted this much when he said he was learning. I guess the student is becoming the Master.