I own this exact very same rifle. It has become my favorite. It is easily a 0.5 inch rifle at 100 yards. This is a .5 MOA rifle in this configuration. I put a silver finished Burris scope on it with silver rings, so it looks cool. I love having the target in my scope, on high magnification and at 100 yds and then seeing the hole appear almost instantly upon pull of the trigger and at the exact spot of the crosshairs, like as if the target was just an arms length away. This rifle really has it all. It is a pure tack driver and handsome looks and the ergos on the stock are a delight. Highly recommended. I would suggest picking one up while you still can.
😂 everyone on internet shoot 0.5 moa at 100 yards . I have the same rifle since 2012 . No it won’t be 0.5 Moa at 100 yards . I also have CZ455 17 hmr and another Lilja 17HMR . Savage magazine is atrocious with each rattling .
good review! I bought one of these exact same rifles back in 2006, and there is a reason I still have it! easily the most accurate rifle in my safe! sure wish the ammo cost what it did back in 2006 though!
Nice gun my friend. I use the same gun but in blue and with a grey laminate stock. I use the Winchester HV 17 HMR round primarily but it shoots everything pretty well. I use a Nikon Prostaff 4-12 scope. At far range kinda hard to see the little gophers (200 yards or so) but still ok. Wish I had a little more magnification at those times. Love the thumb stock for this purpose and find it very comfy. A little heavy for a "walking gun" but can be done. Get very good results. I am gopher shooting in south Saskatchewan and there are thousands in the fields.
Hey dude, I'm getting the same scope and gun. What ring height did you go with? I'm looking at some medium 1-inch rings from vortex. I wasn't sure if it'd clear the barrel, Thanks!
That ammo clip design is from mossberg. My dads 22 cal. had the same kind. The bolt installation is the same on any of my rifle's. Maybe because i only have savage or lakefield rifle's. Which Savage took over Lakefield quite a few years ago.
i know this video is 8 yrs old but thanks for thinking about the people who just bought one like me who just bouht one today. Great video, thanks Adrian!
I have this rifle in the left-handed configuration. Love the stock, it fits me like a glove. As far as accuracy is concerned it is just fantastic, hole in a hole at 75 yards, could probably do it at 100 yards but I'm not that good. I have an inexpensive scope on it but at 75 to 100 yards it is good enough. Thank god my spotter scope is good because at 75/100 yards those little holes are hard to see 😀.
I own this exact rifle and I been hitting lazer accuracy on a steel target at 196 yard's with 15.5GR. NTX Hornady ammunition. Very accurate rifle for the range I have it sighted in for and it's my go too varmint hunting rifle nows
By the way, you don't need two hands to get the mag out, use you're middle finger to push the lever, then use you're pointer finger and you're thumb to grab the mag out. It just takes a little while to get used to it.
Older thread I know...however, still very interesting. Just for what it's worth, I have shot several different makers firearms in 17 HMR and have yet NOT TO SEE a few random cracked cases. More so in the neck/shoulder area than in case body. I don't like it, but it seems to be part of shooting the 17 HMR?????? Just for myself....I have settled on the Savage models to consistently shoot more precise than other brands. But this is just my experience and also I have found Hornady brand ammo in 17gr V Max to be the most precise in any brand rifle thus far. Again, just MY experience. All my Savage rifles shoot .500 or better at 100yds with 5 shot group. I actually have the same model you show in the video, the best I can tell. Good luck with all you endeavor and thanks for the nice video...good job my friend.
I went through 3 A17 semi auto's. First two had metal flaking off the receiver. Finally told savage,no more semi auto's. Got a 93r17 btvss, love this gun and the ammo. Shots cci 17gr jhp best. Half inch groups all day,at 100 yards.
I had a Hornady 17hmr v-max weld itself to the front of the bolt,on my last A17, that's when I decided to go with a bolt action instead of a semi auto. I went thru 3 semi auto's. The btvss is a tack driver. No problems with the mags. This gun loves cci 17 great jhp .
I have both the Savage 17HMR BTVS and CZ455 in 17HMR Both shoot about the same Pro n con Savage fit n finish is not as nice as CZ , rough wood , not deep enough wood finish Magazine rattling around on the groove clip CZ 455 trigger is not as good as savage accu trigger CZ has lots of creep and I have to install shim to reduce the creep But savage accu trigger is made out of thin stamped metal Again fit and finish is not that good on savage So honestly CZ 455 need extra work for the trigger to be as good as savage Both shoot well CZ 455 is easier on the eye Savage is no slouch But that rattle from cheap magazine really drive me crazy sometimes
No you got the right one. Do you still have it? My mags come out 1 handed with the gun upright. .323 @ 100 5 shot.. mine likes all ammo but hornady better. Slow down you can do way better with your groups. No you can push those cases out with a cleaning rod.. ive had a few misfires with winchester.. but that was 8 years ago...
Nice review. I have the exact same rifle. I have a Redfield Revenge 4-12x42 scope and a bi-pod on it. It's great fun to shoot. One thing to mention is the stock is pretty heavy. Add the bull barrel, scope and bi-pod and it not a light weight package to hiking in the woods with. Not a problem for me though. Mine is strictly a target gun... so far :-)
You might have a batch of Winchester brass that is overly brittle. I ran into the exact same problem using Winchester ammo in .445-70 Govt. caliber. I swithed to Remington brass and no more problems. Brittle brass does exist and I imagine that's what you're experiencing. Hope this helps.
+Prairie Falcon I'm getting some pretty incredible accuracy out of this rifle now. I've got a recent group on my review here: www.huntinggearguy.com/rifle-reviews/savage-93r17-btvs-review/
be careful with hornady , i had two bullets that didn't make it out of the barrel (talk about a beach taking it out) just the casing came out. returned boxes back to hornady that sent me two coupons with no explanation.
Good review. Thank You ! I am fighting myself over the choice of this exact model and the Savage A17. Choices, choices, choices. It will be all the reviews that will help me make my choice before Christmas tree time...LOL Thanks Bulldog
hey, i was wondering where you brought this rifle. I was looking at this one and on the websites I looked on it is 500$ about everywhere thats a little to expensive for me. But if i could find it for 400$ like you said it was i would buy it. This video was posted about a year ago though so the price may of raised..... anyway thanks for all the hard work and helpfulness and thanks for reading
I have one. This rifle is so nice! I love this .17 I can shoot the eye of a Seahawk logo on a Bud Light can from 100 yards away! Are you serious? I love this gun!
Stephen do you remember how long it took to break in your barrel? Only 125rnds so far but with clean, cold barrel I hit 1"left with 1st shot, 1/2-1/4 " left with 2nd shot , next 3 leave a jagged hole on bullseye. Stays that way till barrel heats up after another 10 shots . I don't really clean it , just run a dry swab before putting it up .
Heck, a good 22 is good for getting your long range shooting up to par. Just shoot it at long-ish ranges. Shoot at an event like this: rimfireprecision.ca/
My Savage BTVS in 22LR came with very poor craftsmanship. Although the outside of the Boyd's stock was "okay", the inside below the barrel wasn't even sanded, leaving numerous splinters over half an inch long, which can be seen but not sanded without removing the barrel. The barrel and action appear okay visibly, but the trigger guard looks like something you'd find on dollar store toy gun. NOT what I expected for a rifle over five hundred dollars.
Just a thought, you may have gotten hold of a bad batch / lot of those Winchester rounds. I've had occasional, rare few rounds of various brands that have failed to fire, but never had split cases of any brand. I don't get to fire my .17 HMR as often as I would like and I'm certainly not an expert on ammo, but I've probably fired at least a couple thousand rounds of various brands. My rifle seems to "like" the 17 grain V-Max in both the Hornady and Winchester. But anyway, I'd look into the batch and / or lot numbers online to see if there seems to be a trend for split casings. I'm sure several shooting forums are all over it if it's a common issue. That looks like a very nice rifle by the way. Good review.
Stingray8854 Maybe. But, here's an unscientific test: I searched Google for "Winchester 17 HMR" and then the same for CCI and Hornady and let Google's Search Suggest come up to see what other people might be searching for in relation to those phrases. These suggestions are automatically populated by what other people are searching for. CCI's and Hornady's came back normal, this is what came up for Winchester: i.imgur.com/5uzGZR5.jpg Again, completely unscientific, but it may point to a lot more people than just me coming across issues and searching online for other people who might have seen the same thing.
I've not had any luck with Winchester rimfire ammunition whether it be .22lr or .17hmr, .22mag. The accuracy is less than acceptable and the reliability is just not up to par. On a particular occasion, out of 50 .17hrm rounds, 10 failed to fire the first, second, sometimes the third time struck with the primer. I've pulled .22lr superX rounds out of a new box with the projectiles laughably seated at various angles. It's sad that most stores that do sell .17 ammo in my area only carry Winchester. (f.-) Hornady is the way to go.
TrevorMyrtleBeach Hornady is the way to go if you can find it! I've recently only been able to find Winchester and Remington 17 HMR. I pick up CCI and Hornady whenever I find it.
+MegaBait56 I love Boyd's stocks, they really class up a rifle. In the Savage BTVS's case, I believe it worked out to be cheaper to buy it than to buy the heavy barrel stainless 17 HMR with a plastic stock and then upgrade.
yup, your right. Savage told me that they have a deal with Boyd's on the phone when i ordered parts from them. i have a model 11 Savage .308 with a acu. trigger. i bought same thumbhole stock as you have. took over a month and bunch of emails and calls but i got the stock and fit like a glove. cause it's a .308 i had my gunsmith bed the action in the stock and free float the bbl. now it's a tack driver. good luck with your rifle she's a beauty.
+The Hunting Gear Guy unfortunate that we suffer on the US price because they're all made in Ontario. Picked one up for $500 wish in Stainless Steel. Need to figure out optics now.
Perfect Annihilation I wouldn't say they're a serious problem overall, but they can be problematic in some areas. At the place where I hunt, they're in cattle and horse pastures and the holes are responsible for the odd broken leg. Because it's pest control, we don't take the time to skin/eat them.
+barba rossa No. Where I shoot them, it's pest management and our duty to the landowner is to keep the population in check. More food for coyotes and hawks.
I own this exact very same rifle. It has become my favorite. It is easily a 0.5 inch rifle at 100 yards. This is a .5 MOA rifle in this configuration. I put a silver finished Burris scope on it with silver rings, so it looks cool. I love having the target in my scope, on high magnification and at 100 yds and then seeing the hole appear almost instantly upon pull of the trigger and at the exact spot of the crosshairs, like as if the target was just an arms length away. This rifle really has it all. It is a pure tack driver and handsome looks and the ergos on the stock are a delight. Highly recommended. I would suggest picking one up while you still can.
I have a target dot scope on mine and if the dot is on something, that's where the hole will be. Like magic
I’ve been shopping around and your comment here is really helpful! Thank you! I was thinking a CZ but I can get one of these easier, and cheaper.
😂 everyone on internet shoot 0.5 moa at 100 yards .
I have the same rifle since 2012 . No it won’t be 0.5 Moa at 100 yards .
I also have CZ455 17 hmr and another Lilja 17HMR .
Savage magazine is atrocious with each rattling .
good review! I bought one of these exact same rifles back in 2006, and there is a reason I still have it! easily the most accurate rifle in my safe! sure wish the ammo cost what it did back in 2006 though!
I have one. I've had it for a while now, and it's one I will NEVER get rid of.
I’m going to pick up my first rifle today and this video helped me tremendously! Thank you sir!
You can operate the mag release with one hand if you don't mind the magazine dropping out. This is a target rifle, not an AR-15.
Nice gun my friend. I use the same gun but in blue and with a grey laminate stock. I use the Winchester HV 17 HMR round primarily but it shoots everything pretty well. I use a Nikon Prostaff 4-12 scope. At far range kinda hard to see the little gophers (200 yards or so) but still ok. Wish I had a little more magnification at those times. Love the thumb stock for this purpose and find it very comfy. A little heavy for a "walking gun" but can be done. Get very good results. I am gopher shooting in south Saskatchewan and there are thousands in the fields.
Hey dude, I'm getting the same scope and gun. What ring height did you go with? I'm looking at some medium 1-inch rings from vortex. I wasn't sure if it'd clear the barrel, Thanks!
Glass bedding may tighten up those groups a little.
That ammo clip design is from mossberg. My dads 22 cal. had the same kind. The bolt installation is the same on any of my rifle's. Maybe because i only have savage or lakefield rifle's. Which Savage took over Lakefield quite a few years ago.
I own this exact rifle. Very accurate weapon. Taken many critters and turkeys with it.
I OWN this exact rifle and I have to say it is the most accurate firearm I have ever fired!
It's a magazine and a clip all at once, the great discussion is finally settled.
Had the same problem with that ammo. Now only shoot the Hornady V-Max----no problems
i know this video is 8 yrs old but thanks for thinking about the people who just bought one like me who just bouht one today. Great video, thanks Adrian!
I have this rifle in the left-handed configuration. Love the stock, it fits me like a glove. As far as accuracy is concerned it is just fantastic, hole in a hole at 75 yards, could probably do it at 100 yards but I'm not that good. I have an inexpensive scope on it but at 75 to 100 yards it is good enough. Thank god my spotter scope is good because at 75/100 yards those little holes are hard to see 😀.
I own this exact rifle and I been hitting lazer accuracy on a steel target at 196 yard's with 15.5GR. NTX Hornady ammunition. Very accurate rifle for the range I have it sighted in for and it's my go too varmint hunting rifle nows
Well just to let you know you can get FMJ ammo for the .17 HMR for shooting animals if you are going to keep the pellets....
I own this exact firearm and the finish is turning cloudy white in spots... Any thoughts on how to fix this?
By the way, you don't need two hands to get the mag out, use you're middle finger to push the lever, then use you're pointer finger and you're thumb to grab the mag out. It just takes a little while to get used to it.
I had to take mine down and grind and polish the trigger and sear. New out of the box was crazy rough and stiff. Still heavy but getting better
Not likely, George.
Older thread I know...however, still very interesting. Just for what it's worth, I have shot several different makers firearms in 17 HMR and have yet NOT TO SEE a few random cracked cases. More so in the neck/shoulder area than in case body. I don't like it, but it seems to be part of shooting the 17 HMR?????? Just for myself....I have settled on the Savage models to consistently shoot more precise than other brands. But this is just my experience and also I have found Hornady brand ammo in 17gr V Max to be the most precise in any brand rifle thus far. Again, just MY experience. All my Savage rifles shoot .500 or better at 100yds with 5 shot group. I actually have the same model you show in the video, the best I can tell. Good luck with all you endeavor and thanks for the nice video...good job my friend.
I’ve got the 22lr, 22mag and 17hmr in that gun. All solid shooters capable of 1moa.
Just got this exact rifle for $225 with a 4-16x44 centerpoint scope. I figured it was a good price.
what site did you get it from
Christopher Roland local purchase. Not website. Check armslist or gunbroker. There are often good deals
Everyone sells them cheap when their used.
Savage has been using boyd laminate stocks which is what you have on that rifle.
I went through 3 A17 semi auto's. First two had metal flaking off the receiver. Finally told savage,no more semi auto's. Got a 93r17 btvss, love this gun and the ammo. Shots cci 17gr jhp best. Half inch groups all day,at 100 yards.
I had a Hornady 17hmr v-max weld itself to the front of the bolt,on my last A17, that's when I decided to go with a bolt action instead of a semi auto. I went thru 3 semi auto's. The btvss is a tack driver. No problems with the mags. This gun loves cci 17 great jhp .
Been looking at one of these. Thanks for the review. Edit. Scored exact same one on Gunbroker for $370. Looking forward to shooting it!!
That's a fantastic deal.
@@Huntinggearguyhe damn sure is right the cheapest I can find and I’m in Mississippi is 450-500$
Will picatinny scope rings work with the standard scope rail on this?
Nice gun! I was wondering if you or anyone knows how it compares to a CZ 455 17hmr in accuracy?
I have both the Savage 17HMR BTVS and CZ455 in 17HMR
Both shoot about the same
Pro n con
Savage fit n finish is not as nice as CZ , rough wood , not deep enough wood finish
Magazine rattling around on the groove clip
CZ 455 trigger is not as good as savage accu trigger
CZ has lots of creep and I have to install shim to reduce the creep
But savage accu trigger is made out of thin stamped metal
Again fit and finish is not that good on savage
So honestly CZ 455 need extra work for the trigger to be as good as savage
Both shoot well
CZ 455 is easier on the eye
Savage is no slouch
But that rattle from cheap magazine really drive me crazy sometimes
Forget a cz bro I got one and I love my savage 17hmr and my marlin way better the accuracy isn’t any different to me too tell you the truth bud.
No you got the right one. Do you still have it? My mags come out 1 handed with the gun upright. .323 @ 100 5 shot.. mine likes all ammo but hornady better. Slow down you can do way better with your groups. No you can push those cases out with a cleaning rod.. ive had a few misfires with winchester.. but that was 8 years ago...
I have this rifle and I really love it
Nice review. I have the exact same rifle. I have a Redfield Revenge 4-12x42 scope and a bi-pod on it. It's great fun to shoot. One thing to mention is the stock is pretty heavy. Add the bull barrel, scope and bi-pod and it not a light weight package to hiking in the woods with. Not a problem for me though. Mine is strictly a target gun... so far :-)
You might have a batch of Winchester brass that is overly brittle. I ran into the exact same problem using Winchester ammo in .445-70 Govt. caliber. I swithed to Remington brass and no more problems. Brittle brass does exist and I imagine that's what you're experiencing. Hope this helps.
+Prairie Falcon I'm getting some pretty incredible accuracy out of this rifle now. I've got a recent group on my review here: www.huntinggearguy.com/rifle-reviews/savage-93r17-btvs-review/
be careful with hornady , i had two bullets that didn't make it out of the barrel (talk about a beach taking it out) just the casing came out.
returned boxes back to hornady that sent me two coupons with no explanation.
ARE YOU KIDDING, THE SAFETY IS FINE....THE GUN IS NICE !!
Good review. Thank You ! I am fighting myself over the choice of this exact model and the Savage A17. Choices, choices, choices. It will be all the reviews that will help me make my choice before Christmas tree time...LOL Thanks Bulldog
hey, i was wondering where you brought this rifle. I was looking at this one and on the websites I looked on it is 500$ about everywhere thats a little to expensive for me. But if i could find it for 400$ like you said it was i would buy it. This video was posted about a year ago though so the price may of raised..... anyway thanks for all the hard work and helpfulness and thanks for reading
Bud's Gun Shop.
I have one. This rifle is so nice! I love this .17 I can shoot the eye of a Seahawk logo on a Bud Light can from 100 yards away! Are you serious? I love this gun!
What scope do you use?
Stephen do you remember how long it took to break in your barrel? Only 125rnds so far but with clean, cold barrel I hit 1"left with 1st shot, 1/2-1/4 " left with 2nd shot , next 3 leave a jagged hole on bullseye. Stays that way till barrel heats up after another 10 shots . I don't really clean it , just run a dry swab before putting it up .
Is this gun good for getting your long range shooting up to par ?
Heck, a good 22 is good for getting your long range shooting up to par. Just shoot it at long-ish ranges. Shoot at an event like this: rimfireprecision.ca/
My Savage BTVS in 22LR came with very poor craftsmanship. Although the outside of the Boyd's stock was "okay", the inside below the barrel wasn't even sanded, leaving numerous splinters over half an inch long, which can be seen but not sanded without removing the barrel. The barrel and action appear okay visibly, but the trigger guard looks like something you'd find on dollar store toy gun. NOT what I expected for a rifle over five hundred dollars.
Go pick up a 17 wsm you’ll like it I just bought the 17 bmag in the target model can hit coyotes out to 300 yards no problem
www.huntinggearguy.com/rimfire/savage-b-mag-review/
Just a thought, you may have gotten hold of a bad batch / lot of those Winchester rounds. I've had occasional, rare few rounds of various brands that have failed to fire, but never had split cases of any brand. I don't get to fire my .17 HMR as often as I would like and I'm certainly not an expert on ammo, but I've probably fired at least a couple thousand rounds of various brands. My rifle seems to "like" the 17 grain V-Max in both the Hornady and Winchester. But anyway, I'd look into the batch and / or lot numbers online to see if there seems to be a trend for split casings. I'm sure several shooting forums are all over it if it's a common issue. That looks like a very nice rifle by the way. Good review.
Stingray8854 Maybe. But, here's an unscientific test: I searched Google for "Winchester 17 HMR" and then the same for CCI and Hornady and let Google's Search Suggest come up to see what other people might be searching for in relation to those phrases. These suggestions are automatically populated by what other people are searching for. CCI's and Hornady's came back normal, this is what came up for Winchester: i.imgur.com/5uzGZR5.jpg Again, completely unscientific, but it may point to a lot more people than just me coming across issues and searching online for other people who might have seen the same thing.
I've not had any luck with Winchester rimfire ammunition whether it be .22lr or .17hmr, .22mag. The accuracy is less than acceptable and the reliability is just not up to par. On a particular occasion, out of 50 .17hrm rounds, 10 failed to fire the first, second, sometimes the third time struck with the primer. I've pulled .22lr superX rounds out of a new box with the projectiles laughably seated at various angles. It's sad that most stores that do sell .17 ammo in my area only carry Winchester. (f.-) Hornady is the way to go.
TrevorMyrtleBeach Hornady is the way to go if you can find it! I've recently only been able to find Winchester and Remington 17 HMR. I pick up CCI and Hornady whenever I find it.
+TrevorMyrtleBeach I stay away from Winchester ammo. Go with CCI, Federal, and Hornady. Remington is good but always more expensive.
Cgi are totally the best ammo vs result you can get, 3 bullets in the same hole in 100yd, 2 others in the same 3/4 on an inch ;)
I've had that happened with all amo
Savage uses a "Boyds" stock. you can buy them for 99 bucks for any rifle.
+MegaBait56 I love Boyd's stocks, they really class up a rifle. In the Savage BTVS's case, I believe it worked out to be cheaper to buy it than to buy the heavy barrel stainless 17 HMR with a plastic stock and then upgrade.
yup, your right. Savage told me that they have a deal with Boyd's on the phone when i ordered parts from them. i have a model 11 Savage .308 with a acu. trigger. i bought same thumbhole stock as you have. took over a month and bunch of emails and calls but i got the stock and fit like a glove. cause it's a .308 i had my gunsmith bed the action in the stock and free float the bbl. now it's a tack driver. good luck with your rifle she's a beauty.
MegaBait56 160*
I have that in blue, best gopher so far was 273 yards in 15mph winds second shot hit.
Don’t mean to bust your balls but, the Scientific name is Urocitellus richardsonii.
Caramba essa marca savage só tem rifles top 🙂👏👏👏👍
Where can I find this for ~$400 in Canada? I can't find anything cheaper than $650 for comparable stock and etc.
Maybe used? Once the USD changed, all our American gun prices went up.
+The Hunting Gear Guy unfortunate that we suffer on the US price because they're all made in Ontario. Picked one up for $500 wish in Stainless Steel. Need to figure out optics now.
Roberto Vita depending on where in Canada you live wholesale sports has them for $560
Unless you find one on sale you won't find one any cheaper than that. Or unless you find it used maybe ?
From wich distance did you fire?
100 meters
I wasn't aware gophers a serious problem out there? Do they taste good?
Perfect Annihilation I wouldn't say they're a serious problem overall, but they can be problematic in some areas. At the place where I hunt, they're in cattle and horse pastures and the holes are responsible for the odd broken leg. Because it's pest control, we don't take the time to skin/eat them.
There a pest. Fun to shoot.
I own this rifle. It's the most accurate rifle I own. Single hole groups all day at 50 yards.
Man I’m depressed watching this 9y later. “Price is getting up there at $400” I’m looking to buy one now in 2024 at $780
Proper name is "Richardson's Ground Squirrel" But everyone will call them a gopher and know exactly what you mean.
I need a stock
do you eat the gophers?
+barba rossa No. Where I shoot them, it's pest management and our duty to the landowner is to keep the population in check. More food for coyotes and hawks.
Our Rhodesian Ridgeback flips the shot ones up in the air and swallows them whole. :-)
"and I mean little"
15:17
Richardson ground squirrel ...
grab that mag release on a tree branch to lose your mag ;(
Fix your sound all i hear is your mouth gasping for air. Good info.
Like this? th-cam.com/video/fSM_SO0GIBc/w-d-xo.html
In Germany this 93R17 700€ 😴