Check your ammo I have a Henry in 17 blow in my face bc of the ammo I went back and checked the box of ammo and they were cracked from the factory I also have a 93r17 and it shoots half inch groups at 100 yards
I had the same problem in my 93 R with light strikes don't know if you fixed the issue. But I did . this is how .remove bolt remove spring clip pull out firing pin carefully hone the end of the pin on top that impacts the chamber the parts look stamped out and are ruff . After I honed a little metal off never again had a light strike. Ive had split cases also think its brass quailty .
split case . primer strikes , inaccuracy , all due to head space . now some brands will split more than others but does not mean it's the ammo . Savage has good service . send it direct to Savage . call them . you will have a renewed love for that gun . Savage won't even discuss the point they will just fix it and send you a note on what they did .
One more thing at least on my marlin 917 I no longer do a full barrel cleaning ,every time of clean the barrel it would take upwards of fourth rounds to get the group back to one inch at 100 yards as these 17 are very able to do anyway after the third time of cleaning and figuring this out all I do now is pull a tight wad of soft cloth (old underwear works perfect) using only a weed eater string with one end scarred to grab the cloth and do that there times or until it comes out clean. That's far as my barrel cleaning goes , now if I intent to store the gun a long time then I would consider putting oil or cleaner in the barrel.
I have one that was doing light primer strikes also. I completely disassembled the bolt and found that there was some really thick, heavy, dried up grease that was used to assemble it. It was keeping the firing pin from hitting the rim hard enough. After I did some cleaning, It worked much better.
Had this same issue with hornady 17 vmax..called them and they said my lot number was 7 years old..I had a brand new lot number and not a single issue. Its old brass that's all
I bought this gun brand new off the shelf from a local gun store. Right out the gate had light primer strikes with every ammo i ran through it. Sent it back to savage they "fixed" the problem doesn't have any light primer strikes anymore but splits every case now. Accuracy and grouping aren't the same eveytime it splits the neck of the case. I have other savage rifles never had a problem with them but for some reason this particular is a turd and because of it I won't purchase another savage product. Not to mention I've sent it back once, paid for it, and now they want me to pay to send it back again. Just have to cut my losses I guess .
@@TheOutdoorGeneralist which sucks because I have a lot of it but I just watched it and im going to try A17 ammo you tried in your video. Well if and when I can find it. Thanks man I appreciate your hard work !!
My Marlin 917 don't do well at all with those three ammo you have there Winchester being the worse for split shell, I've found the CCI Vmax and A17 overall give no problems while the cci vmax ballistic tip being the best in my marlin. Actually the Winchester was so bad splitting and hanging I'd rather not have any ammo at all if that was my only choice, however I did notice the Winchester had more power and shot about one inch higher than the rest so maybe a better grade of powder that the shells can't handle ?
I had the same problem. Have a cz 455 in 17 and the win ammo all cracked. Like maybe 5 out of 50 didn't. I parked the gun because I thought the wood swelled and it was out. I love the gun and 17 hmr but I stopped shooting it because it was so out that I would just grab something I knew would be on. I came across your video and looked at what I was shooting and I saved all my brass and had the same problem. I took out a box of rem ammo and its bang on and no problems. In my case it was an ammo problem. I think your gun is fine and seen your video about when you got it back. I think its ammo. When I first got my gun it was my favorite gun and still is but it's not preforming it makes it hard. I ditched mine and came back to it and love it again.
You may want to inspect your ammo before you fire it. I had the same problem for a while and I found that many of the rounds I had were split prior to firing. Look closely because some of the cracks are small and some were very obvious. Like it was a bad run of brass.
Hi, I have a Savage B17 FVSR, I noticed the federal having not so many split cases after firing (17gn Vmax), I do however see a lot of Winchester (20gn JHP) pre-split. accuracy ok. A friend has checked last night ready for a range day and had 115 pre-split cases out of 200rnds. Assume we get the same ammunition you guys do. All the best from Ireland.
I had a Remington 17 hmr auto I believe 593? It did same thing? Remington recalled the Gun it blew the Clip out of the bottom an cracked the stock? Had many split cases previously. When sent in they wanted to know what ammo an how many shots an cleaning solvents an oil? They wanted my gun on recall an wanted to pay me 150.00 less than I pd for it 1 month prior. They also wanted theRemington Hmr 17 ammo an would pay me 8.00 per box that I payed 12.00 for.
U right ,at 50 yards that gun is fully able to do near hole in hole . If I am more than a inch at 100 yards that concerns me. Bet he cleans his barrel often.
Hello from Argentina... I have the same issue on my new cz 455 varmint .17hmr Did you solve the problem? Are you finally sure about what cause spliting? headspace or bad quality brass? Thanks in advance. Have a great day
En mi Ruger Precision me funcionan todas bien, pero las V-Max que compré (quizás 8 cajitas) muchas vienen con pequeños cracks. Y obviamente al dispararlas las vainas se ven un poco crackeadas. Las Hornady de 20gr mucho menos. Y las A17 poco también. He usado esas 3 municiones y todas han tenido cracks en el cuello del casquillo pre-disparo. Pero las V-Max considerablemente más que las de 20gr y las A17. Todas tiran bien en mi rifle y no tengo problemas de ningún tipo. (Creo que 3 veces me ha sucedido que me costó extraer el casquillo. 3 de quizás 700 tiros).
Just wondering if you are maybe kinda abusing it with the fast action firing. Not hating just maybe they need to make a stronger bolt handle, or not such fast reload all the time. Just a thought. Good luck with it
Very possible that I should run the action a little more gingerly to help compensate for the softer-than-ideal steel. This is primarily a hunting gun though, and as such should be able to have the bolt run quickly for follow up shots and multiple game animals such as squirrels. I’ve been greasing it up good to minimize the damage. Thanks for watching and commenting!
Same here. I bought 5000 rounds and locking a few random boxes found 30% are split in the box. Have reached out to Hornady and getting crickets for a response
Glad to see someone else with this problem. I have no split cases but starting last year lots of miss fires. I think its the firing pin? I talked to Savage and they want me to send in the gun so they can check it well thats not going to happen. The best ammo for me was the Hornady and CCI, Browing was really bad like 6 to 7 in A row miss firer.They will not sell me A new pin. Let me no what they tell you good luck.
Is it PMC or Remington brass? I've had the same thing happen with 308 brass. Only thing you can do is anneal after every firing. Which I've started doing with every bottleneck cartridge I reload. As we all know consistency is key
@@TheOutdoorGeneralist I get that my point was there brass is brittle from the go. And I didn't watch the whole video. I was about to head to work and didn't have time to watch past all the talking and rambling on in the beginning 😆😉
the problem isn't the gun, it's the ammunition because the manufacturers don't care where they save and yes, the most expensive thing is brass, so it's just thinner walls and we've got crap! I got it at 223 when demolishing the M4 sleeves, etc
Take a punch and create a dimple at the wear point on the bolt handle. This will raise metal around the dimple and force the bolt forward to battery. Put a small dab of moly grease there to prevent wear, same with lugs on CF guns with the grease. I was not aware the Winchester ammunition suffered from splitting issues. I will have to inspect...
i Always store my .17 hmr with a snap cap in the chamber to take the tension of the firing pin spring .Strip the bolt and give it a deep clean scrub the barrel with a phosphor bronze brush and a good bore cleaner from the chamber end finish of with a patch impregnated with WD40 i use a bore snake every 30/40 shots good luck
Had the same problem with 32 H&R mag. Sent the gun to Ruger. They replaced the cylinder. Still splitting brass. Checked the unfired rounds. They were split from the factory, brand new bullets. Remington green box. Traded the gun for a Browning Buckmark, much better gun!
I prefer my .22 lr as ammo cheaper also it’s much quieter the the .17, also my way of thinking with the problem with your .17 is some bullets fit tighter in the chamber than the others, when the lose bullets gasses as they are fired its cracking the bullet cases as if was fitting snugly in the chamber it will stop the bullet casing from expanding so won’t break.
Had an issue recently with a squib round from Federal ammo on a 17hmr browning tbolt. Was at a range and didn’t pick up on the squib. Was able to Chamber another and fired, the stock blew apart. There was a bullet in the barrel from the squib round and thus the pressure of another round being fired, it caused damage. Luckily no injuries. Speaking with guys at the range, the 17 round is prone to split casings and split necks, this allows moisturise to affect the powder and cause poor/inconsistent burns and possible squibs. Winchester, Federal CCI and Hornsby were all suffering with it a while back, Hornsby, from what I’m told is the best at the moment and the safest to use.
I have the same gun/model and probably close to 3k rounds thru it and no problems, no issues. I do get the best and most accuracy using cci A17 rounds BTW. Very tight groups still. Interesting I've never had split casings although the stock magazine is junk. It literally fell apart.
When my accuracy fades on my model 93 it has always been a loose stock attachment bolt. I have had trouble with hornady ammo splitting. I'm not sure if its a long term issue or not. Ive been getting misfires with mine but a good bolt disasemble and cleaning corrected it. Too many years of squirting wd 40 in mine.
Not uncommon for a firearm to prefer one brand of ammo. Your gun likes the CCI ammo. Noticed no split cases from CCI, and it produced your best group. Cast a chamber slug and mic it against SAMMI. Also noticed stock at bolt handle relief cut was aft of receiver. Couldn't see if stock camo finish was abraded off from forward face of the bolt handle or not, but since you did show finish wear and deformation on aft side of handle you might check that your action is as far rearward in the stock then tighten down. (Savage recommends 15 inch pounds torque on their rimfire rifles) also consider removing that excess stock material. Bolt production is probably within tolerance specs but if action location is not within the proper stock position that could put your lock-up out of spec. Just spitballing here....
Hmm. I hadn't noticed the receiver/stock matchup being off. I did take the gun out of the stock to clean and put it back together, paying pretty close attention to make sure it was as far rearward as possible. I do that on all my bolt actions. I'd agree with you about the CCI ammo, except that it used to shoot everything fine, and actually get the best groups with the Winchester ammo. So I'm still convinced there's something wrong with it. I will do the chamber cast though, if it still has problems when I get it back from Savage. Been meaning to get some of that stuff anyway for a few other guns. Thanks for the comment!
I own one - perhaps a new bolt from savage will fix your problem as for accuracy - be very careful when you clean the barrel - too many people go back and fourth with the rod and nicking the crown with the brass jag - push the rod through unscrew the jag then using your fingers guide the rod back in pull the rod back out - then attach the jag and push it through again.
Just subscribed, I just bought 2 of the newer b - series savage. One in the 17 hmr and the 22 mag. Haven't had a change to shoot neither one yet. Hopefully I don't have that problem. But I think you are right about the bolt, and savage takes care of this maybe with a new bolt.
Johnathan Phillips I thought about that! But the .17 produces such little heat, I really doubt it. Even after shooting those 15 rounds, the exterior of the barrel was barely above ambient temperature.
Really wish I could get some more new production ammo to try out. FWIW, I have one box that hasn't had any split cases yet and seems to be shooting well. But I'm not willing to pay the $25/box that it's going for right now.
Today I had a case rupture in my Savage 93. The bullet got lodged in the barrel and it blew the magazine out of the bottom and cracked my Boyds stock. It was Federal ammunition. I also noticed the fired brass had splits in the neck. I hope Federal pays for my damages.
I'd take a look at the inside of the bolt first thing to see if there is gunk keeping the firing pit from going all the way forward. .17 HMR borrowed several things from the .22 Magnum other than the case, one of them being extremely dirty ammo requiring a lot of cleaning. Firing pin could be worn or bent or damaged by dry firing which is the death of any rim fire gun and not good for any whether they tell you it's alright or not. Depending on the firearm dry firing can peen the chamber where it strikes it. But, the split case necks do point to excessive head space as you said and it could very well be that wear on the bolt handle you pointed out. That did make sense. If you replace it, Might want to put a bit of grease where that one galled. Didn't seem to be an ammo problem but I did get one box of Winchester ammo one time that was so out of speck that it would not chamber at all.
Thanks! When I get the gun back, I’ll definitely grease up the bolt handle and receiver at that wear point. I did wonder about the firing pin. Should have tried to get a spec from Savage and measure it before sending it in.
I just got a brand new one for my fiancé and I noticed split casings as they ejected. After some inspection the ammunition (federal polymer tip) had pre existing splits on some of the shells right where the bullet was pressed in... after some testing the cases with splits were the only ones that split further upon firing and the non split cartridges performed fine.
Could it be a head space issue? Or i guess probably a bolt face issue, but if the rim isn't tight on the bolt, that would explain the light strikes, and as the case pushes back, while pressure is still up, it splits the neck? No sure how it would happen though. I assume 17 HMR head spaces off the rim, but it is a bottleneck cartridge... Edit: I should have watched to the end before commenting, you can to the same conclusion
Paul Harveu that’s a good description of what I think is happening! Yes it does indeed headspace off the rim. I’m pretty sure that the excess wear on the lockup surfaces is causing it. I had first thought most of the galling was on the receiver, but it looks quite a bit worse on the bolt handle shaft. If Savage doesn’t get it fixed, I may borrow a friend’s 93 bolt and see if that fixes the problem.
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Check your ammo I have a Henry in 17 blow in my face bc of the ammo I went back and checked the box of ammo and they were cracked from the factory I also have a 93r17 and it shoots half inch groups at 100 yards
I had the same problem in my 93 R with light strikes don't know if you fixed the issue. But I did . this is how .remove bolt remove spring clip pull out firing pin carefully hone the end of the pin on top that impacts the chamber the parts look stamped out and are ruff . After I honed a little metal off never again had a light strike. Ive had split cases also think its brass quailty .
split case . primer strikes , inaccuracy , all due to head space . now some brands will split more than others but does not mean it's the ammo . Savage has good service . send it direct to Savage . call them . you will have a renewed love
for that gun . Savage won't even discuss the point they will just fix it and send you a note on what they did .
One more thing at least on my marlin 917 I no longer do a full barrel cleaning ,every time of clean the barrel it would take upwards of fourth rounds to get the group back to one inch at 100 yards as these 17 are very able to do anyway after the third time of cleaning and figuring this out all I do now is pull a tight wad of soft cloth (old underwear works perfect) using only a weed eater string with one end scarred to grab the cloth and do that there times or until it comes out clean. That's far as my barrel cleaning goes , now if I intent to store the gun a long time then I would consider putting oil or cleaner in the barrel.
I have one that was doing light primer strikes also. I completely disassembled the bolt and found that there was some really thick, heavy, dried up grease that was used to assemble it. It was keeping the firing pin from hitting the rim hard enough. After I did some cleaning, It worked much better.
Had this same issue with hornady 17 vmax..called them and they said my lot number was 7 years old..I had a brand new lot number and not a single issue. Its old brass that's all
I have a newer savage hmr. It’s always split 2-3 out of 10 rounds. It appears to group tighter than what yours is. It mostly happens with hornady ammo
I bought this gun brand new off the shelf from a local gun store. Right out the gate had light primer strikes with every ammo i ran through it. Sent it back to savage they "fixed" the problem doesn't have any light primer strikes anymore but splits every case now. Accuracy and grouping aren't the same eveytime it splits the neck of the case. I have other savage rifles never had a problem with them but for some reason this particular is a turd and because of it I won't purchase another savage product. Not to mention I've sent it back once, paid for it, and now they want me to pay to send it back again. Just have to cut my losses I guess .
Check out my latest video on the gun! Bet you’re having the same problem I did. Spoiler: It’s probably your ammo.
@@TheOutdoorGeneralist which sucks because I have a lot of it but I just watched it and im going to try A17 ammo you tried in your video. Well if and when I can find it. Thanks man I appreciate your hard work !!
All new-production ammo should be good to go, from what some of my other viewers are saying. Good luck finding some, let us know how it works!
Just assemble and clean the bolt thoroughly. Heard of instances where lube fouls the firing pin.
My Marlin 917 don't do well at all with those three ammo you have there Winchester being the worse for split shell, I've found the CCI Vmax and A17 overall give no problems while the cci vmax ballistic tip being the best in my marlin. Actually the Winchester was so bad splitting and hanging I'd rather not have any ammo at all if that was my only choice, however I did notice the Winchester had more power and shot about one inch higher than the rest so maybe a better grade of powder that the shells can't handle ?
I had the same problem.
Have a cz 455 in 17 and the win ammo all cracked.
Like maybe 5 out of 50 didn't.
I parked the gun because I thought the wood swelled and it was out.
I love the gun and 17 hmr but I stopped shooting it because it was so out that I would just grab something I knew would be on.
I came across your video and looked at what I was shooting and I saved all my brass and had the same problem.
I took out a box of rem ammo and its bang on and no problems.
In my case it was an ammo problem.
I think your gun is fine and seen your video about when you got it back.
I think its ammo.
When I first got my gun it was my favorite gun and still is but it's not preforming it makes it hard.
I ditched mine and came back to it and love it again.
You may want to inspect your ammo before you fire it. I had the same problem for a while and I found that many of the rounds I had were split prior to firing. Look closely because some of the cracks are small and some were very obvious. Like it was a bad run of brass.
Interesting! I’ll check my ammo. Thanks!
I had the same problem with Hornady .17 HMR ammo.
@@ferdytacomaboy3628 I noticed this on half of the rounds in a pack of winchester.
Hi, I have a Savage B17 FVSR, I noticed the federal having not so many split cases after firing (17gn Vmax), I do however see a lot of Winchester (20gn JHP) pre-split. accuracy ok. A friend has checked last night ready for a range day and had 115 pre-split cases out of 200rnds. Assume we get the same ammunition you guys do. All the best from Ireland.
I had a Remington 17 hmr auto I believe 593? It did same thing? Remington recalled the Gun it blew the Clip out of the bottom an cracked the stock? Had many split cases previously. When sent in they wanted to know what ammo an how many shots an cleaning solvents an oil? They wanted my gun on recall an wanted to pay me 150.00 less than I pd for it 1 month prior. They also wanted theRemington Hmr 17 ammo an would pay me 8.00 per box that I payed 12.00 for.
Switched from Hornady too CCI no problems
My dads havin the same problem with cci it’s super weird because he never had the problem before
50 yards n u call that pretty decent? Mmmmmm
U right ,at 50 yards that gun is fully able to do near hole in hole . If I am more than a inch at 100 yards that concerns me. Bet he cleans his barrel often.
I would change the striker and scrub the carbon from the overbore
Hello from Argentina... I have the same issue on my new cz 455 varmint .17hmr
Did you solve the problem?
Are you finally sure about what cause spliting? headspace or bad quality brass?
Thanks in advance.
Have a great day
En mi Ruger Precision me funcionan todas bien, pero las V-Max que compré (quizás 8 cajitas) muchas vienen con pequeños cracks. Y obviamente al dispararlas las vainas se ven un poco crackeadas. Las Hornady de 20gr mucho menos. Y las A17 poco también. He usado esas 3 municiones y todas han tenido cracks en el cuello del casquillo pre-disparo. Pero las V-Max considerablemente más que las de 20gr y las A17.
Todas tiran bien en mi rifle y no tengo problemas de ningún tipo. (Creo que 3 veces me ha sucedido que me costó extraer el casquillo. 3 de quizás 700 tiros).
Have you sorted out this issue with your rifle?
Hi... i sold .17hmr
I'm reloading .223 Rem as a .22wmg. No more fliers.
thanks
your first Problem is SAVAGE
The HMR can suffer from copper fouling, so keep a check on the state of the bore.
Spilt necks are a thing over here, in the UK, too.
Just wondering if you are maybe kinda abusing it with the fast action firing. Not hating just maybe they need to make a stronger bolt handle, or not such fast reload all the time. Just a thought. Good luck with it
Very possible that I should run the action a little more gingerly to help compensate for the softer-than-ideal steel. This is primarily a hunting gun though, and as such should be able to have the bolt run quickly for follow up shots and multiple game animals such as squirrels. I’ve been greasing it up good to minimize the damage. Thanks for watching and commenting!
Check your casings before you shoot them. I have 41 cracked right out of the box from 3 different boxes. 3 different brands. cci makes all .17 hmr
Same here. I bought 5000 rounds and locking a few random boxes found 30% are split in the box. Have reached out to Hornady and getting crickets for a response
CCI makes all 17 hmr ammo. It's all junk
I'm convinced. Stick with CCI. It seems to be the best in my gun as well.
A17 ammo is the best for my henry and 93r17 has the best groups to
Those groups suck. Ammo is junk
Glad to see someone else with this problem. I have no split cases but starting last year lots of miss fires. I think its the firing pin? I talked to Savage and they want me to send in the gun so they can check it well thats not going to happen. The best ammo for me was the Hornady and CCI, Browing was really bad like 6 to 7 in A row miss firer.They will not sell me A new pin. Let me no what they tell you good luck.
Here's what happened with mine: th-cam.com/video/SSkc9cJWsoA/w-d-xo.html
CCI is making Hornady
I would like to know what Savage finds.
I will be interested to find out as well. Haven’t heard anything yet, though it’s only been at Savage for about a week.
Winchester le problème
Let’s us know what happens. Nice detailed video and good job sir.
Is it PMC or Remington brass? I've had the same thing happen with 308 brass. Only thing you can do is anneal after every firing. Which I've started doing with every bottleneck cartridge I reload. As we all know consistency is key
.17 HMR is a rimfire cartridge man, whole different ball game lol.
@@TheOutdoorGeneralist I get that my point was there brass is brittle from the go. And I didn't watch the whole video. I was about to head to work and didn't have time to watch past all the talking and rambling on in the beginning 😆😉
My savage 93R17 FV was fantastic until I had one squib load and then the gun blew up in my face...I turned around and got another new Savage
I have a Marlin that splits cases every now and then but have never had a misfire. Will be interesting to see what they say.
the problem isn't the gun, it's the ammunition because the manufacturers don't care where they save and yes, the most expensive thing is brass, so it's just thinner walls and we've got crap! I got it at 223 when demolishing the M4 sleeves, etc
No they the new bolt series. That's what the b in the b-series stands for. All new stock and safety.
Ah gotcha, I’ll have to check it out!
Take a punch and create a dimple at the wear point on the bolt handle. This will raise metal around the dimple and force the bolt forward to battery. Put a small dab of moly grease there to prevent wear, same with lugs on CF guns with the grease.
I was not aware the Winchester ammunition suffered from splitting issues. I will have to inspect...
i Always store my .17 hmr with a snap cap in the chamber to take the tension of the firing pin spring .Strip the bolt and give it a deep clean scrub the barrel with a phosphor bronze brush and a good bore cleaner from the chamber end finish of with a patch impregnated with WD40 i use a bore snake every 30/40 shots good luck
I have an old winchester model 77 Lr every few years I need a new firing pin.Split cases I'm stumped
Ammunition
Had the same problem with 32 H&R mag. Sent the gun to Ruger. They replaced the cylinder. Still splitting brass. Checked the unfired rounds. They were split from the factory, brand new bullets. Remington green box. Traded the gun for a Browning Buckmark, much better gun!
I prefer my .22 lr as ammo cheaper also it’s much quieter the the .17, also my way of thinking with the problem with your .17 is some bullets fit tighter in the chamber than the others, when the lose bullets gasses as they are fired its cracking the bullet cases as if was fitting snugly in the chamber it will stop the bullet casing from expanding so won’t break.
Good, thx
Hopefully they will take care of you!!! Keep us updated!,
Had an issue recently with a squib round from Federal ammo on a 17hmr browning tbolt. Was at a range and didn’t pick up on the squib. Was able to Chamber another and fired, the stock blew apart. There was a bullet in the barrel from the squib round and thus the pressure of another round being fired, it caused damage. Luckily no injuries. Speaking with guys at the range, the 17 round is prone to split casings and split necks, this allows moisturise to affect the powder and cause poor/inconsistent burns and possible squibs. Winchester, Federal CCI and Hornsby were all suffering with it a while back, Hornsby, from what I’m told is the best at the moment and the safest to use.
well done brother good info since i own 2 savage 22 wmr rifle's 93 and b 22
Like the scope what brand?
@@loriewallace9348 Bushnell…not sure the model. It was a package optic that came with the gun. Nothing special but it holds zero pretty well.
Stick with cci. That's all I shoot,with no problems
I have the same gun/model and probably close to 3k rounds thru it and no problems, no issues. I do get the best and most accuracy using cci A17 rounds BTW. Very tight groups still. Interesting I've never had split casings although the stock magazine is junk. It literally fell apart.
I have a Savage A17. Semi auto and have yet to date had a missfire or split case.
When my accuracy fades on my model 93 it has always been a loose stock attachment bolt. I have had trouble with hornady ammo splitting. I'm not sure if its a long term issue or not. Ive been getting misfires with mine but a good bolt disasemble and cleaning corrected it. Too many years of squirting wd 40 in mine.
It's not the gun it's the smmo
@@davidreed6779 yep, that was the conclusion I came to.
It needs a deep clean full tear down by a gunsmith
Not uncommon for a firearm to prefer one brand of ammo. Your gun likes the CCI ammo. Noticed no split cases from CCI, and it produced your best group.
Cast a chamber slug and mic it against SAMMI.
Also noticed stock at bolt handle relief cut was aft of receiver. Couldn't see if stock camo finish was abraded off from forward face of the bolt handle or not, but since you did show finish wear and deformation on aft side of handle you might check that your action is as far rearward in the stock then tighten down. (Savage recommends 15 inch pounds torque on their rimfire rifles) also consider removing that excess stock material. Bolt production is probably within tolerance specs but if action location is not within the proper stock position that could put your lock-up out of spec. Just spitballing here....
Hmm. I hadn't noticed the receiver/stock matchup being off. I did take the gun out of the stock to clean and put it back together, paying pretty close attention to make sure it was as far rearward as possible. I do that on all my bolt actions. I'd agree with you about the CCI ammo, except that it used to shoot everything fine, and actually get the best groups with the Winchester ammo. So I'm still convinced there's something wrong with it. I will do the chamber cast though, if it still has problems when I get it back from Savage. Been meaning to get some of that stuff anyway for a few other guns. Thanks for the comment!
Let us know how it turns out..
You do have a problem.. hope they fix it..
Mine splits one kind too . None of the other .
I own one - perhaps a new bolt from savage will fix your problem as for accuracy - be very careful when you clean the barrel - too many people go back and fourth with the rod and nicking the crown with the brass jag - push the rod through unscrew the jag then using your fingers guide the rod back in pull the rod back out - then attach the jag and push it through again.
Brass and aluminum don't nick steel barrels. That's an old wives tale
Ive never had a issue with mine other than the factory trigger pull was horrible
Mine is heavy even at the lightest adjustment, but it’s crisp and doesn’t have any over travel.
Just subscribed, I just bought 2 of the newer b - series savage. One in the 17 hmr and the 22 mag. Haven't had a change to shoot neither one yet. Hopefully I don't have that problem. But I think you are right about the bolt, and savage takes care of this maybe with a new bolt.
These are the semi-auto offerings from Savage, correct? I haven’t heard of many problems with them. Good luck!
I’d be curious to put a no go gauge in the gun and see if the bolt closes
Sold one over a mess of problems including shitty magazines
What problems were you having with the magazines?
Did you get it fixed?
You think the CCI group could be a result of the gun being hot and tightening up the tolerance in headspace?
Johnathan Phillips I thought about that! But the .17 produces such little heat, I really doubt it. Even after shooting those 15 rounds, the exterior of the barrel was barely above ambient temperature.
I can hold 1/16 inch groups at 600 meters
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With mine I've had a couple split cases but it's always been the ammo I bought, ya know mass produce rimfire ammo isn't really sold top notch
Really wish I could get some more new production ammo to try out. FWIW, I have one box that hasn't had any split cases yet and seems to be shooting well. But I'm not willing to pay the $25/box that it's going for right now.
@@TheOutdoorGeneralist shit I have some ammo but someone broke into my truck and stole my 17🤣
Marshall White ah that’s rough, sorry to hear!
Today I had a case rupture in my Savage 93. The bullet got lodged in the barrel and it blew the magazine out of the bottom and cracked my Boyds stock. It was Federal ammunition. I also noticed the fired brass had splits in the neck. I hope Federal pays for my damages.
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I'd take a look at the inside of the bolt first thing to see if there is gunk keeping the firing pit from going all the way forward. .17 HMR borrowed several things from the .22 Magnum other than the case, one of them being extremely dirty ammo requiring a lot of cleaning. Firing pin could be worn or bent or damaged by dry firing which is the death of any rim fire gun and not good for any whether they tell you it's alright or not. Depending on the firearm dry firing can peen the chamber where it strikes it. But, the split case necks do point to excessive head space as you said and it could very well be that wear on the bolt handle you pointed out. That did make sense. If you replace it, Might want to put a bit of grease where that one galled. Didn't seem to be an ammo problem but I did get one box of Winchester ammo one time that was so out of speck that it would not chamber at all.
Thanks! When I get the gun back, I’ll definitely grease up the bolt handle and receiver at that wear point. I did wonder about the firing pin. Should have tried to get a spec from Savage and measure it before sending it in.
You get what you pay for.🤨
Check out my latest video on this gun. Spoiler: it’s not the gun, it was the ammo.
I just got a brand new one for my fiancé and I noticed split casings as they ejected. After some inspection the ammunition (federal polymer tip) had pre existing splits on some of the shells right where the bullet was pressed in... after some testing the cases with splits were the only ones that split further upon firing and the non split cartridges performed fine.
I’ve had a couple people mention now that they saw some splitting on their cases before firing. I will check my ammo. Thanks!
misfires and light primer strikes.. seems pretty self explanatory to me. good luck
Could it be a head space issue? Or i guess probably a bolt face issue, but if the rim isn't tight on the bolt, that would explain the light strikes, and as the case pushes back, while pressure is still up, it splits the neck? No sure how it would happen though. I assume 17 HMR head spaces off the rim, but it is a bottleneck cartridge...
Edit: I should have watched to the end before commenting, you can to the same conclusion
Paul Harveu that’s a good description of what I think is happening! Yes it does indeed headspace off the rim. I’m pretty sure that the excess wear on the lockup surfaces is causing it. I had first thought most of the galling was on the receiver, but it looks quite a bit worse on the bolt handle shaft. If Savage doesn’t get it fixed, I may borrow a friend’s 93 bolt and see if that fixes the problem.
very good job! keep it up I'm sure you'll make more great videos man.
Split case after firing is normal for hmr rounds