Last blast for the Q50S Red Sport 400. Great set of races last year against the Audi S3, Charger 392, Genesis G70, Chevy SS 6.2 and the Acura TLX Type S. Sam, appreciate the opportunity to race on your channel and allowing me this gift of going back and seeing my car now that I no longer have it. The 4000 RPM launch in the Audi S3 had me absolutely dead to rights off the hop, the 2500 brake boost-only-engine-torque launch in the Q50 doesn't stand a chance - that was pretty evident. Either way, was really fun racing against Terrence. Shout out to all the guys and gals that put up with me last summer. It was a pleasure meeting you all and hopefully, now that I have the 2022 Q60 Red Sport, I can come back for more. It should be faster than the Q50 because its got the red interior and we all acknowledge that it adds 20bhp.
@@IReahpZz hoping to do one year of stock races and then slowly modify over time. Intercooler is first. Tuning will come later once I've got the supporting mods.
Most Audis do when using LC. Totally different TCU programing if you launch it correctly too. I have an FBO stage 2 B9 S4 that has an adjustable RPM ignition cut launch control. Michelin Pilot Sport 4s tires and it will spin all four it launches so hard.
As much as I'm a Nissan/Infiniti fanboy, I knew this wouldn't go over well for that red sport. Anytime Audi puts an R or an S in the name, they mean BUSINESS
AMEN LOL, thats why I got an S3, one of the very best bang for the buck - all you need to do is tune the TCU/ECU stage one you get 80-100 extra HP immediately , Stage 3 with upgraded hybrid turbo and fueling you have a car with over 500 HP doing 10's in the quarter
@@Cruzer871 a cheap modded Honda gaps every and anything so you sound ignorant. A civic doesn’t launch, drive, or look nearly as good as a s3. Best bang for buck.
@@mikhiranger8469 🥱it does thoe I ain’t a dick rider for a Audi that can barely out perform a S class mercedes 🥱come @ me when you grow a pair or even ur wife leaves you for a real man
The Q60 needs to be in full performance custom mode with TC off or its slower. Plus you need to shift since the auto feature is slow. Does the Q60 have an upgraded heat exchanger? If not, it's up to a 100hp loss after 1 run.
@@silimarina. what's the point of lying about it for this type of comparison video? There's no money to be had. People just want a head 2 head comparison. And no Im not seeing anything on TH-cam when I look up stock for stock. Just where they're both tuned
Unfortunately, INFINITI will never update the Q50. They have no new vehicles planned for this year. The Q50 was a decent car when the twin turbo first came out in 2016. Now it is just outdated.
It actually hurts my pride a bit seeing this one. 😂the S3 is light but still a monster from a dig so hats off to that car. I was expecting the q50 to wake up here, it seems the transmission in that car is it’s weakest point gee go figure nissan
@@shawncarson8131 that's not true at all I smoked a s5 with my hybrid model rwd that AWD model of the Q50 really sucks with the 7 speed a bloody s3 would be mincemeat for my skyline 350gt hybrid lol
Bout what you'd expect on account of the S3's launch control, but it maintained the lead a bit longer than I thought it would. Pretty impressive for being significantly down on power. The Q almost feels like torque is limited in 1st. I had my '18 Q50RS for 3 yrs and just sold it yesterday. Haven't missed it yet...it's a good car though, just not the most sophisticated option out there. Still, out in the "real world" you're not going to use high RPM launch control at stop lights, and the Q would likely do much better in that case. It would be great to see the addition of street starts on this channel, because it's a better reflection of how the car feels and performs in daily driving. :)
Why wouldn’t you use launch control at a a stop light? I have a few times, when the race seemed serious. One time was against a Jaguar F-Type R, who was certain he was gonna eat my lunch. I LOVED hearing my RS3’s exhaust note echoing off the downtown brick buildings, as I blew the poor Jag away! He just couldn’t believe it.
Like the Audi driver mentioned, to launch an Audi u have to turn traction control off & have it in sport/dynamic mode. If u just have the car in the regular drive mode it'll be asleep
thats not true at all, I have an S3, and if you place it in "D" mode with dynamic setting it is very close to as fast as it is in "S" mode, S mode has quicker throttle response and revs higher.
Its basically an a3 but it is different in some of the internals of the engine and the turbo is larger. So there is a good jump in hp over an a3 as a result. The 2022 S3 is faster by a bit but its not as fast as the new 2022 Golf R.
I had a tuned S5 and I can't tell you impressive that thing was. Let's just say a few mustang and hellcat owners were very very shocked a few times lol
Nice races! wasn't sure what to expect and got some varied results. That s3 sounds interesting...idk alot about audis though. Good to see the return of the Q!
Sam, i've been waiting a time now for a head to head race between these 3 very suitable for a neck to neck battle...the 2018 alfa romeo stelvio vs 2019 acura rdx vs 2021 kia sorento x-line . Imho, they would be between 0.4 seconds each other. Thanks in advance
Interesting that the S3 went 4.5/12.8 in 2nd run and beat the Q50 so bad. This should have been neck and neck. The better driver was clearly in the S3, well done man!
These videos are infinitely better when at least one person has a draggy device to record times. Might start watching these again if the videos start having some form of time reference
Looking through the comments, I think anyone here had noticed that the Infiniti won the roll race with that so called slow transmission. Ps Infiniti doesn’t have launch control, maybe Sam should have ran the Audi like you would on the street.
If the S3 was not in any launch control, the Q50 RedSport walks, nay runs away. No question. Hard to overcome the absolute monstrous advantage a 4k launch the S3 gets.
Absent of launch control the 400 Nissan HP's will take the Audi in that spec. The Audi launches at 4000 rpm. It's not possible to catch it. Clearly on a roll (when the trans cooperates) it is a quicker car. Agree the old 7AT slushbox is a less capable machine comparatively.
S3 clearly isn't stock. Q50rs is a 12 second car S3 is mid to low 13s with a lower trap speed. I've had both an S3 and a q60 red sport. Appreciate the content should bring a tuned silver sport since they make 500 hp pretty easily.
@@IRaoulDuke 12 second car means it is in the 12s. That can mean 12.0-12.99 pretty universal term just like when people call a model s plaid a 9 second car or a demon a 9 second car.two very different realms of power but both would qualify under that term....... Seems you are the newby here.
I came into this video expecting the red sport to win this. Honestly embarrassing for the q50 and very impressive for the s3. Was considering going back to looking for a q50 but this video made my mind up for me to go get an s5 instead. Crazy to me that the regular q50 lost so people wanted them to get the top of the line one to still lose😭
2022 Golf R vs Audi S4/S5, Kia Stinger GT, Acura TLX Type S, Infiniti Q50 Red Sport, Audi S3 (the one in this video or even the new one) I bet the Golf R takes all of them
@@msrr1303 it stands, not going to say that the EA888 is a bad engine. It's just that it gives people a false impression about how fast a car really is.
Do you guys have a race between the s3 and the s4 I’m stuck between wich one I want to get I like the fact the s4 is supercharged and has a good sound and I also feel like it’s more realible then a turbo 4 but the s3 in my opinion looks better and love the pop un big sunroof
My buddy has an S3 and has never beat me. I ran 12.747 stock. Brake boosting and auto mode stock slows it down several tenths. Auto will shift at 6500 manually timed right you can hit shifts at 7k. Also stock tune kills power if you brake boost for more than 2 seconds. There is timing and technique to getting the most out of it. S3 still a nice car.We both have fun with our rides. We just raced the other night both with some bolt on and 93 tune. He ran 12.4 I ran 11.8 he disappeared quickly in the video
Who the hell is infinity ?? That gearbox in the infinity is shocking slow , but saying that the dsg is one of the best double clutch gearboxes out there plus the proven 888 engine
you read people mind :) thanks. if you can test bmw 230i 2022 it would be great because this car beats even camaro and mustang and q60. its actually supra 2.0 same engine same chassi
Yeah something ain’t right here. I have a stock redsport 400 and I raced a 2020 Audi s3 with lower downpipe and tune, and he barley could beat me. I smoked it stock to stock
The S3 is so underrated.....I'm Stage 1 with an intake and it's really, really close to 400HP crank. On a side note, I just drove an a V8T S6 and my stage 1 S3 is faster
Its not underrated. Its awd, has launch control and a 7speed dsg. My 2010 mustang with 300hp and a 5speed trapped 106mph and did 13.4 . If i had awd , 150lbs less weight and a 7speed auto i would definitely be in the 12s with just 300hp.
Exactly. Those numbers are very close to stock RS400 number 4.4-4.5. So this being a "stock car" and pulling on the RS like that, clearly shows what this was. A modified S3 vs a stock RS. Would love to see a true stock vs stock race.
91 octane I guess? Those numbers seem low for stage 1 even on 91 for some reason. On unitronic stage1+ here (using 93 octane) and hitting 3.65 0-60 Edit: you know what, I should have asked what year to see if it has the 6 or 7 speed.
@@thekingandi1705 Huh, close to an rs3 ? The RS3 is rated 3.5-3.7 for 0-60. A Stage 2 s3 would be close to an rs3 in terms of hp but would also need extra "parts" with that tune, dp and intercooler and should do a fuel pump. After you do all that you are still not an RS3 though lol.
@@dubsessed9790 Your hitting high 3's with a Stage 1. Unless of course you have done extra things like intake, turbo inlet, wheels, dp. Even then that number you quoted is highly questionable.
It is not the superior engineering that won this race, it was the inferior drivers in the Q50. Stock for stock, these cars are very close. Just shows that when you know how to drive your car properly, you can maximize every bit of its performance. Hats off to the S3 owner. Great car and great driver.
Soooooo, a single turbo inline 4 with a better transmission beat a twin turbo V6 with more HP and torque...... Still sounds like better engineering. I've owned both cars as well.
The Infiniti should've pulled top end... strange. A stock S3 is a full 6-8mph slower in the 1/4 than the Infiniti according to car and driver. Both cars are cool but this didn't make sense. Great video though!
So the audi just launches harder, nothing a little aftermarket boost controller and transmission tune can't solve. Don't even need to add power, just need it to let me launch with boost at a higher rpm
It would get dragged like a dog. The VR30 needs a tune, intercooler, and downpipes to be able to run what it’s capable of. They’re very fast when modded properly.
Good match up but audi's are money pits after 100k miles.. I rather have reliability than speed at the end of the day!! Sold my BMW and Mercedes...I only drive Lexus now and it has saved me so much money on repairs
A look I love Audi s3s more then redsports and have driven both myself on a few occasions and the s3 if deff a better car off the line but only until 70mph or before that top end power of the infiniti comes around....something is wrong here that infiniti should of won the rolls and atleast start to reel it in at the end of the drags
The Q50 RS clocks 0 to 60 and 1/4 mile times faster than the S3 so either there's a big the driver component delta and / or the S3 isn't stock and / or something's wrong with the Q60.
@@MuzikSonics well, your initial statement said the Q was faster. Now, with actual stats, it’s either equal, or slower, than the S3, depending on sources.
@@mshonhall Operative phrase being - depending on sources. I read elsewhere the q60 was faster hence my original position. at the end of the day, they're both very close I guess.
The VR30 was never the weak point. It is the transmission. The Z by default should already proof to be relatively faster being that its lighter and will have a ZF 9 speed.
Yeah I've been wanting to see that race for a while they both have identical HP and torque numbers from a 2.0T engine. I think the Audi would be a hair faster because of the AWD launch, and DSG gearbox, though (assuming both vehicles are automatic).
I've raced a 2018 2.0t sport Accord 6mt against my 2021 Audi A5 40tfsi (190hp, 230lb ft tq) and my Audi won easily every time. The 45tfsi A4 will definitely win. The quattro just puts the power to the ground so much better.
@@xfiringsquadx The issue with the 2.0T Accord with a manual transmission is that it is very difficult to get good times with, sometimes they can run slow 14.5 second 1/4 miles because of its difficulty to put the power down. The 10 speed auto in the Accord is the real benchmark of what the Accord can do, it always puts down consistent times, and no where near as hard to launch as the manual. So I think both cars with their auto transmissions: Accord with 10 speed and Audi A4 with 7 speed dual clutch would be the proper match up. On paper they are pretty close in times, but the Audi gets the initial track advantage on launch due to AWD, and also its faster shifting transmission, the downsides are more weight and drive train loss at higher speeds. So either way it would be a fantastic race either way you look at it.
@@LousWRX True and good points. The 10 speed would definitely put up a better fight. Roll race would be interesting for sure. From a dig, I'm pretty sure the Audi would still take it though. Better than stock tires on the Accord would help a lot as well. I agree that it's definitely worth a watch regardless.
I get that the S3 would take the launch over the Q50S but what I don't get is how it's constantly and consistently pulling on said Q50S, even on the top end... 🤔🤨
Try using a bloody RWD model instead of the gutless AWD model everytime the AWD model is way slower I have a skyline 350gt hybrid RWD that smoked a modified audi s5 2019 lol
Even a basic A3 2.0T Quattro with a stage 1 tune would take that Q50. I already found that out from experience….. if the Q50 was modded it would be very even.
Shame for nissan, was beaten in all ways possible by a poor golf which got one turbo less, two cylinders less, 1000cc less, over 100bhp less.. AND most of all it's almost a shitty fwd.. despite the infinity i think is proper awd with rear bias and longitudinally mounted engine.
@@layne4376 i'm not a citizen of that shitty EMPIRE, so i don't know and don't wonna know what "lbs" mean, but probably it's some ancient unit. International unit for weight are gram, for our situation- kilogram.
@@layne4376 300kilos isn't a quarter of weight for any of those cars, but 100+ bhp it is a quarter of total power for that infinity, as well as it is @30% of S3 power. Still seems to you that weight difference is able to justify loosing dragrace?
I'm wondering if Sam knows how turbocharged cars with modified exhaust applications work. 🤔 Stop calling it stock. If you saw the last video you'll know the Audi had been tuned as well. Give it straight up or race the cars with similar modifications.
Audis stock exhausts flow well enough that aftermarket’s are just for sound usually, not performance gain. You need a tune to get more power out of an aftermarket exhaust, and just because the Audi has an exhaust doesn’t mean it’s tuned.
@@BrownSofaGamer They delineated that it was tuned in the previous video. Also, turbos respond differently to simple modifications especially ones that are connected to the exhaust manifold directly.
@@c.j.coates974 He said it has a piggy back tune which has multiple maps and be mapped back to stock. Piggyback maps are also inconsistent compared to regular tunes, so even if he did have a different map, it would’ve varied the results more. And I just told you, on the stock tune on an Audi an aftermarket exhaust is gonna ad maybe 15hp if you’re really luck, which is nothing.
Audis are computers on wheels. Exhaust modifications are negligible as the ECU will make only exactly the power it’s programmed to make. You’re lucky to even get 8HP more with an exhaust.
It probably would help if you compared apples to apples. The S3 is very likely modified (very easy to do on a turbo car). The S3 driver says he ran a 12.2 while a stock S3 will run high 12’s/low 13’s. Something isn’t smelling right here…
I own an infiniti and No it’s better to have the infiniti in manual mode you just missed the shift, in manual mode it shifts so hard that you can even feel a sudden hit in your back it’s like it jumps forward
I feel like spending some time with the Infiniti (like ownership and getting to understand the patterns of the transmission) could allow for a better drag race if you truly indulge into practicing and trial and error at certain shift points and throttle levels. Every car is different so maybe one could find a pattern in the infinitis transmission hiccups and then dial in the rpm threshold needed to result in a smooth, clean shift from first to second. Now that’s not to say that it will give the infiniti some Supercar 0-60 numbers, but it could definitely make for a more closer resulting finish in this specific drag race atleast 😂
The jatco transmission is the weak point of the Q. And for some reason Nissan decides to stick with a 9at version with the z35. Hopefully it's better than that trash 7at
If you watch this and expect this is how it will go in real life your very wrong, I have a hard time watching this guy, I like what he is trying to do. But the races just don’t add up, the q50 base makes 300whp (I did research) in a comment by Sam car legion he said the Audi makes 200 wheel, and this is a q50 red sport?? And it loses? Hell nah something is wrong here.
I have a stage 2 mkv gti which is enough to pull on an s3 (I raced one when it was stock) then raced q50 base 2020 and lost by abt a car and a 1/2 not even a red sport.
Last blast for the Q50S Red Sport 400. Great set of races last year against the Audi S3, Charger 392, Genesis G70, Chevy SS 6.2 and the Acura TLX Type S. Sam, appreciate the opportunity to race on your channel and allowing me this gift of going back and seeing my car now that I no longer have it. The 4000 RPM launch in the Audi S3 had me absolutely dead to rights off the hop, the 2500 brake boost-only-engine-torque launch in the Q50 doesn't stand a chance - that was pretty evident. Either way, was really fun racing against Terrence. Shout out to all the guys and gals that put up with me last summer. It was a pleasure meeting you all and hopefully, now that I have the 2022 Q60 Red Sport, I can come back for more. It should be faster than the Q50 because its got the red interior and we all acknowledge that it adds 20bhp.
That red interior comment is priceless 😂
Tune it and make it actually quick through ams.
@@IReahpZz hoping to do one year of stock races and then slowly modify over time. Intercooler is first. Tuning will come later once I've got the supporting mods.
Wait so u upgraded to the same car but 2 fewer doors 🤣🤣🤣
@@jimwallace4164 smart way to do it.went ams and loved my car
The launch control on that S3 is brutal..
It changes into another beast in launch
Most Audis do when using LC. Totally different TCU programing if you launch it correctly too. I have an FBO stage 2 B9 S4 that has an adjustable RPM ignition cut launch control. Michelin Pilot Sport 4s tires and it will spin all four it launches so hard.
Golf R shares the same powertrain, and that's a rocket of the line for sure! Dig races is where they really shine!
@@germanengineering204 True but the 2022 version Golf R is faster than the 2022 S3.
@@SquashPile nice
S3 is tuned, liar s3 owners
As much as I'm a Nissan/Infiniti fanboy, I knew this wouldn't go over well for that red sport. Anytime Audi puts an R or an S in the name, they mean BUSINESS
AMEN LOL, thats why I got an S3, one of the very best bang for the buck - all you need to do is tune the TCU/ECU stage one you get 80-100 extra HP immediately , Stage 3 with upgraded hybrid turbo and fueling you have a car with over 500 HP doing 10's in the quarter
All dat just for a a cheap modded Honda with a laptop to grape
@@Cruzer871 a cheap modded Honda gaps every and anything so you sound ignorant. A civic doesn’t launch, drive, or look nearly as good as a s3. Best bang for buck.
@@mikhiranger8469 🥱it does thoe I ain’t a dick rider for a Audi that can barely out perform a S class mercedes 🥱come @ me when you grow a pair or even ur wife leaves you for a real man
The Q60 needs to be in full performance custom mode with TC off or its slower. Plus you need to shift since the auto feature is slow. Does the Q60 have an upgraded heat exchanger? If not, it's up to a 100hp loss after 1 run.
Ahhh makes me feel proud to be an 8v S3 owner.
Touche Bro, absolutey love my 2018 S3 as well, tons of fun to drive, quick AF
@@volkssturm9694 2018 s3 as well. its fun and nasty
that S3 was not stock. The owner is full of sh*t. There are plenty of videos on TH-cam where Q50 Red Sport beats S3 easy.
@@silimarina. what's the point of lying about it for this type of comparison video? There's no money to be had. People just want a head 2 head comparison. And no Im not seeing anything on TH-cam when I look up stock for stock. Just where they're both tuned
Unfortunately, INFINITI will never update the Q50. They have no new vehicles planned for this year. The Q50 was a decent car when the twin turbo first came out in 2016. Now it is just outdated.
It actually hurts my pride a bit seeing this one. 😂the S3 is light but still a monster from a dig so hats off to that car. I was expecting the q50 to wake up here, it seems the transmission in that car is it’s weakest point gee go figure nissan
It’s a shame because the 7-speed can hold a ton of power, but the tuning and shift logic is terrible.
@@shawncarson8131 that's not true at all I smoked a s5 with my hybrid model rwd that AWD model of the Q50 really sucks with the 7 speed a bloody s3 would be mincemeat for my skyline 350gt hybrid lol
@@lexman8678 How is the Skyline 350gt on gas? I'm interested in getting one, but wondering if it gives awful gas mileage.
@@odnamorvr3053 the hybrid is good on gas I get over 12 km/litre the older model v36 is way slower and bad on gas lol
@@lexman8678 Thanks bro
Bout what you'd expect on account of the S3's launch control, but it maintained the lead a bit longer than I thought it would. Pretty impressive for being significantly down on power. The Q almost feels like torque is limited in 1st. I had my '18 Q50RS for 3 yrs and just sold it yesterday. Haven't missed it yet...it's a good car though, just not the most sophisticated option out there. Still, out in the "real world" you're not going to use high RPM launch control at stop lights, and the Q would likely do much better in that case. It would be great to see the addition of street starts on this channel, because it's a better reflection of how the car feels and performs in daily driving. :)
Why wouldn’t you use launch control at a a stop light? I have a few times, when the race seemed serious. One time was against a Jaguar F-Type R, who was certain he was gonna eat my lunch. I LOVED hearing my RS3’s exhaust note echoing off the downtown brick buildings, as I blew the poor Jag away! He just couldn’t believe it.
Yo what car did you buy
@@marshallmxtakeslzz I ordered a Model 3 Performance and took delivery in May last year. It’s been awesome, I love it.
If you shift at a higher point on the Infiniti it shouldn’t bog down in the next gear.
Those auto infinity's in manual you have to shift well before the shift point or you'll redline. Been there lost money 🤦🏾♂️
Like the Audi driver mentioned, to launch an Audi u have to turn traction control off & have it in sport/dynamic mode. If u just have the car in the regular drive mode it'll be asleep
I RARELY, ever drive in “regular” (we call it parent) mode. So, switching to launch control is extremely quick and easy when the moment arises.
thats not true at all, I have an S3, and if you place it in "D" mode with dynamic setting it is very close to as fast as it is in "S" mode, S mode has quicker throttle response and revs higher.
The Audi S3 is a nice looking ride! Love it
That Audi is a beast!! And it look awsome too! Good match Sam, great job, as usual🤙
S3 is tuned, liar s3 owners
@@shabanajannik2600 And ? ......
@@shabanajannik2600 yeah there are planty of videos out there where S3 gets walked by Q50 Red sport. That S3 was definitely not stock.
I’m genuinely impressed with the S3. It’s basically a AWD a3 that’s 290 Hp. Imagine what the RS3 or the new S3 woulda done to the infinity
is38 is a big upgrade
Its basically an a3 but it is different in some of the internals of the engine and the turbo is larger. So there is a good jump in hp over an a3 as a result. The 2022 S3 is faster by a bit but its not as fast as the new 2022 Golf R.
I had a tuned S5 and I can't tell you impressive that thing was. Let's just say a few mustang and hellcat owners were very very shocked a few times lol
And a simple ECU tune adds so much power to the s3, then it shocks people with its speed. 😉
@@frankcastle1578 i see you are a man of culture 😁
Nice races! wasn't sure what to expect and got some varied results. That s3 sounds interesting...idk alot about audis though. Good to see the return of the Q!
@mrvtec2222222 for sure something different!
Sam, i've been waiting a time now for a head to head race between these 3 very suitable for a neck to neck battle...the 2018 alfa romeo stelvio vs 2019 acura rdx vs 2021 kia sorento x-line .
Imho, they would be between 0.4 seconds each other. Thanks in advance
Interesting that the S3 went 4.5/12.8 in 2nd run and beat the Q50 so bad. This should have been neck and neck. The better driver was clearly in the S3, well done man!
He was, he pressed the pedal harder than us 👍
@@SamCarLegion yup
@@SamCarLegion actually he just timed his pedal push better than you both. 😉
True - his left eye was staring at the pedal while the right one staring at the flag man.
@@SamCarLegion 😅😅😅
I have a few infiniti owners tried to race me in my b8.5 S4 and they get surprised when they find out lol Audi’s Quattro is no joke from a dig
These videos are infinitely better when at least one person has a draggy device to record times. Might start watching these again if the videos start having some form of time reference
Something’s off about that red sport. Idk. I feel like it got heat soaked from the beginning or something
Looking through the comments, I think anyone here had noticed that the Infiniti won the roll race with that so called slow transmission. Ps Infiniti doesn’t have launch control, maybe Sam should have ran the Audi like you would on the street.
If the S3 was not in any launch control, the Q50 RedSport walks, nay runs away. No question. Hard to overcome the absolute monstrous advantage a 4k launch the S3 gets.
Yeah on the street you can do launch control too good thinking though
@@jimwallace4164 WAIT, so that means the Q50 IS faster. It just doesn't have launch control.
In 99% of driving scenarios, the Q50 IS faster.
Why the Q50 was set on Sport (according to the infography) instead of Sport+ ? 🤷♂️
I purchased a 19 s4 over the red sport. Man I’m impressed with this audi.
The audi is soo much more expensive though
@@Alexander-qd7nj what are you talking about?? They are basically the same price, look again. The S3 is just leaps and bounds better overrall.
@@volkssturm9694 were talking about a 2019 s4 vs a 2019 red sport. Idk where you got S3 from
300 German horses are apparently stronger than 400 Japanese horses 🤔🤔😂
Transmission is a big factor too.
Absent of launch control the 400 Nissan HP's will take the Audi in that spec. The Audi launches at 4000 rpm. It's not possible to catch it. Clearly on a roll (when the trans cooperates) it is a quicker car. Agree the old 7AT slushbox is a less capable machine comparatively.
Infiniti transmission are kinda trash when it shifts
S3 clearly isn't stock. Q50rs is a 12 second car S3 is mid to low 13s with a lower trap speed. I've had both an S3 and a q60 red sport. Appreciate the content should bring a tuned silver sport since they make 500 hp pretty easily.
It makes 2000whp
RS 12 second car? 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂
@@IRaoulDuke yup 12.8-12.9. before mods my car went 12.95 at my local. Ams tuned went 11.5 on pump gas.
@@IReahpZz New to car talk? When you say 12 second car that means 12.0. I notice you included a range for the s3 🤣
@@IRaoulDuke 12 second car means it is in the 12s. That can mean 12.0-12.99 pretty universal term just like when people call a model s plaid a 9 second car or a demon a 9 second car.two very different realms of power but both would qualify under that term....... Seems you are the newby here.
I came into this video expecting the red sport to win this. Honestly embarrassing for the q50 and very impressive for the s3. Was considering going back to looking for a q50 but this video made my mind up for me to go get an s5 instead. Crazy to me that the regular q50 lost so people wanted them to get the top of the line one to still lose😭
2022 Golf R vs Audi S4/S5, Kia Stinger GT, Acura TLX Type S, Infiniti Q50 Red Sport, Audi S3 (the one in this video or even the new one)
I bet the Golf R takes all of them
No
@@kingsports0961 yes
not from a stand still
In the first roll the guy in the infiniti started a little too soon that was why he won.
Comments like this are so perfect. I win a race, its illegitimate, lose a race - needs a driver mod, guy can't drive, 7AT sucks, driver to fat etc.
@@jimwallace4164 Still a good race. Your infiniti is nice even though I think you said you don't have it anymore.
@@dwayneobas9095 it was a great car. Love the look of it thats why I stayed in the family and got a 2022 Q60RS
can you do kia stinger gt vs the infiniti q50 red sport ?
VW really hit a home run with the EA888 engine family.
yes, the GEN 3 EA888, especially with the beefed up version in the S3, a big step up over the A3 2.0
except the S3 was not stock. Look at other videos of Q50 Red Sport vs S3. Audi S3 is slower.
@@silimarina. it’s not stock. And? My statement still stands.
@@msrr1303 it stands, not going to say that the EA888 is a bad engine. It's just that it gives people a false impression about how fast a car really is.
@@silimarina. yeah no, it can’t compete power wise with the VR30.
Do you guys have a race between the s3 and the s4 I’m stuck between wich one I want to get I like the fact the s4 is supercharged and has a good sound and I also feel like it’s more realible then a turbo 4 but the s3 in my opinion looks better and love the pop un big sunroof
Again the best channel on TH-cam. So fun and entertaining.
Infinity drivers looked so stressed 😭 my guy in the S3 just chillin having fun
S3 is chilling because he knows he has a tuned S3. There are videos on youtube that show Q50 Red Sport being the faster car vs S3.
My buddy has an S3 and has never beat me. I ran 12.747 stock. Brake boosting and auto mode stock slows it down several tenths. Auto will shift at 6500 manually timed right you can hit shifts at 7k. Also stock tune kills power if you brake boost for more than 2 seconds. There is timing and technique to getting the most out of it. S3 still a nice car.We both have fun with our rides. We just raced the other night both with some bolt on and 93 tune. He ran 12.4 I ran 11.8 he disappeared quickly in the video
Did not expect the S3 to be that fast
I think it’s tuned, no way it’s stock power, it should be even with a q50 not a q50 red sport especially on the roll, something is very wrong here 🤔
@@swype.media-9309 500lbs is a big weight difference especially on cars that don’t have a lot of horses to begin with.
I drive a stock S3 and will take on a Q50 any day. Turbo boost, Quattro and light weight = explosive power.
@@stain2024 have you raced a red sport q50
S3 is not stock
Who the hell is infinity ?? That gearbox in the infinity is shocking slow , but saying that the dsg is one of the best double clutch gearboxes out there plus the proven 888 engine
@samCarlegion : PLEASE test out the 2014 - 19 Taurus SHO. 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🥺🔥🔥
You should put what year the car is made
you read people mind :) thanks. if you can test bmw 230i 2022 it would be great because this car beats even camaro and mustang and q60. its actually supra 2.0 same engine same chassi
Yeah something ain’t right here. I have a stock redsport 400 and I raced a 2020 Audi s3 with lower downpipe and tune, and he barley could beat me. I smoked it stock to stock
Now im shifting from having Infiniti Q50 S to Audi S4. Not until Infiniti updates their transmission.
Wow I'm very impressed with this Audi S3 spanking a vehicle that has 108 horsepower more.
They arnt driving the infiniti the right way AT ALL he bogged down in every gear lmao
6:20 bruh Infiniti jumped so bad😂
I wanna see a g37xs vs an S4 so bad
Id like to see the S3 against the Type R
Good one
Absolutely but I'm also dying to see the M240i xdrive race either of these cars would be very interesting!👍
How about the RS3???
Type R gets destroyed
Type R might have a chance on a roll with perfect shifts
Lexus is350 vs q50 silver sport
Lexus is500 vs q50 Redsport
Civic type r vs q50 silver sport
Infinity has looked the same for 50 years! Lol
So has BMW and Audi....
@@thekingandi1705 facts
Audi hasn’t change since 1998
Hi Sam, how does someone contact you about submitting their car for a race video?
Instagram @carlegion1
@@SamCarLegion DM sent.
The S3 is so underrated.....I'm Stage 1 with an intake and it's really, really close to 400HP crank. On a side note, I just drove an a V8T S6 and my stage 1 S3 is faster
You probably are 320 whp no more I have 2019 golf r fbo stage 3+ e85 and is make 480 whp
Its not underrated. Its awd, has launch control and a 7speed dsg. My 2010 mustang with 300hp and a 5speed trapped 106mph and did 13.4 . If i had awd , 150lbs less weight and a 7speed auto i would definitely be in the 12s with just 300hp.
I knew the Audi was gonna win. Good Race!
S3 vs fusion sport 2.7t next please
i have apr stage 1 S3 high torque setup with TCU tune, hittin consistent 0-60 times of 4.3 - 4.4
Exactly. Those numbers are very close to stock RS400 number 4.4-4.5. So this being a "stock car" and pulling on the RS like that, clearly shows what this was. A modified S3 vs a stock RS. Would love to see a true stock vs stock race.
91 octane I guess? Those numbers seem low for stage 1 even on 91 for some reason. On unitronic stage1+ here (using 93 octane) and hitting 3.65 0-60
Edit: you know what, I should have asked what year to see if it has the 6 or 7 speed.
@@thekingandi1705 Huh, close to an rs3 ? The RS3 is rated 3.5-3.7 for 0-60. A Stage 2 s3 would be close to an rs3 in terms of hp but would also need extra "parts" with that tune, dp and intercooler and should do a fuel pump. After you do all that you are still not an RS3 though lol.
@@dubsessed9790 Your hitting high 3's with a Stage 1. Unless of course you have done extra things like intake, turbo inlet, wheels, dp. Even then that number you quoted is highly questionable.
@@vroomgc no, stage 1 S3 to Red Sport 400 (RS).
Lets see what the new nissan Z brings to the table!
Lol infiniti fanboys really tried to get the redsport to take out the S3 😂 Audi ftw
x)))). Now they crying.
@@layne4376 exactly, so go cry about your accord else where. Not on this thread
S3 had an exhaust my boy
@@bryannalove9388 exhaust without a tune doesn’t do anything. 400hp turbo v6 to lose to a sub 300hp turbo 4 banger, yikes.
@@LoXHumaN with an extra turbo at that 😂
Down on HP and torque.... Shows the superior engineering of the Audi.
also considerably down on weight smaller car hence better power to weight ratio
@@stefanodeanjou8732 ..... The infiniti has the better power-to-weight ratio. It's clearly shown at the beginning.
@@daison96 ancient trans.dsg makes up for alot,Audi also makes more than advertised they dyno 350 Crank. As a prior owner of both cars.
It is not the superior engineering that won this race, it was the inferior drivers in the Q50. Stock for stock, these cars are very close. Just shows that when you know how to drive your car properly, you can maximize every bit of its performance. Hats off to the S3 owner. Great car and great driver.
Soooooo, a single turbo inline 4 with a better transmission beat a twin turbo V6 with more HP and torque...... Still sounds like better engineering.
I've owned both cars as well.
The Infiniti should've pulled top end... strange. A stock S3 is a full 6-8mph slower in the 1/4 than the Infiniti according to car and driver. Both cars are cool but this didn't make sense. Great video though!
S3 is about 108 from what I read, q50 rs 109-110
I’d like to see a BMW 650 I compete with another car in the same class
Please do V6 charger vs Honda Odyssey
stop
So the audi just launches harder, nothing a little aftermarket boost controller and transmission tune can't solve.
Don't even need to add power, just need it to let me launch with boost at a higher rpm
Kinda wanna see f22 bmw m240 vs Audi s3
Do a kia k5 gt vs infiniti q50 3.0t
Why not compare an s4 ? 400hp vs 288hp ?
Would like to see the q50 red sport vs 335i/340i
It wouldn't even be a fair race against the 340 wth the b58 motor and that zf transmission
It would get dragged like a dog. The VR30 needs a tune, intercooler, and downpipes to be able to run what it’s capable of. They’re very fast when modded properly.
@@scottroberts5529 maybe a stock f30 would be a good race
I dont get it my Q50RS does 12.2 to 11.9 at the 1/4 mile all the time how did this Q50RS lose to an S3? it's definitely a driver mod.
It is a drive mod, driving my q50 RS it does 3.9-4.2 and 12-12.4
@@Adajrnsu19no way a stock q50 is doing a sub 4 sec 0-60
I think he means 4.9 to 5.2
Lol.. Why was the S3 not allowed to use its highest mode.. Dynamic or something .. Heard that in the beginning.. It still won.. Cool
Good match up but audi's are money pits after 100k miles.. I rather have reliability than speed at the end of the day!! Sold my BMW and Mercedes...I only drive Lexus now and it has saved me so much money on repairs
A look I love Audi s3s more then redsports and have driven both myself on a few occasions and the s3 if deff a better car off the line but only until 70mph or before that top end power of the infiniti comes around....something is wrong here that infiniti should of won the rolls and atleast start to reel it in at the end of the drags
I feel like they run the red sport before they started recording and it got heat soaked.
I agree with you something is wrong here … red sport should have DEFINITELY won the roll
That's the 1st year red sport with bobo wheels and awd. He needs to get a rwd on
Good thing to have an extra 100hp
why would you put up a video when you mess up a gear change?! you cant just redo the race ?
need the tuned stinger sam
The Q50 RS clocks 0 to 60 and 1/4 mile times faster than the S3 so either there's a big the driver component delta and / or the S3 isn't stock and / or something's wrong with the Q60.
Not sure where you think you’ve seen that, but, Car and Driver says differently:
Q50 RS: 0-60=4.5s, 1/4=13s@112mph.
S3: 0-60=4.4S, 1/4=12.9@108mph
@@mshonhall Zeroto60 times has them dead even at 4.5 sec and 13.1 quarter FYI.
@@MuzikSonics well, your initial statement said the Q was faster. Now, with actual stats, it’s either equal, or slower, than the S3, depending on sources.
@@mshonhall Operative phrase being - depending on sources. I read elsewhere the q60 was faster hence my original position. at the end of the day, they're both very close I guess.
Can we see the S3 and a golf R. Before people get butt hurt yes Ik they are the same. But there could be a difference you never know
The Golf R wins there are videos out there
Imagine a Rs3
I hope that Nissan put not this tired 3 L V6 400 HP engine in the new 400 Z.
The VR30 was never the weak point. It is the transmission. The Z by default should already proof to be relatively faster being that its lighter and will have a ZF 9 speed.
@@Babacaru If it's programmed properly, I'm estimating a 0-60 run of 3.7 sec.
@@chiemekaa very possible with its launch control feature which is a something the q50 does not have
The sound of s3 looks like it light mod
Hi sam, make a video with audi a4 252hp vs honda accord 2.0 touring
Yeah I've been wanting to see that race for a while they both have identical HP and torque numbers from a 2.0T engine. I think the Audi would be a hair faster because of the AWD launch, and DSG gearbox, though (assuming both vehicles are automatic).
@@LousWRX a better race would be GLI not Audi which they already did
I've raced a 2018 2.0t sport Accord 6mt against my 2021 Audi A5 40tfsi (190hp, 230lb ft tq) and my Audi won easily every time. The 45tfsi A4 will definitely win. The quattro just puts the power to the ground so much better.
@@xfiringsquadx The issue with the 2.0T Accord with a manual transmission is that it is very difficult to get good times with, sometimes they can run slow 14.5 second 1/4 miles because of its difficulty to put the power down. The 10 speed auto in the Accord is the real benchmark of what the Accord can do, it always puts down consistent times, and no where near as hard to launch as the manual. So I think both cars with their auto transmissions: Accord with 10 speed and Audi A4 with 7 speed dual clutch would be the proper match up. On paper they are pretty close in times, but the Audi gets the initial track advantage on launch due to AWD, and also its faster shifting transmission, the downsides are more weight and drive train loss at higher speeds. So either way it would be a fantastic race either way you look at it.
@@LousWRX True and good points. The 10 speed would definitely put up a better fight. Roll race would be interesting for sure. From a dig, I'm pretty sure the Audi would still take it though. Better than stock tires on the Accord would help a lot as well. I agree that it's definitely worth a watch regardless.
DURANGO SRT VS X7m50
Are you sure that Audi has no tune?
I get that the S3 would take the launch over the Q50S but what I don't get is how it's constantly and consistently pulling on said Q50S, even on the top end... 🤔🤨
Possibly weight. The cars are probably putting out similar power to weight numbers. Audi’s are just fast cars…..
S3 tuned?
Power band on the stock Q50 sucks!! The 🐌 🐌 are too small. If it can hold its power all the way to redline, it'll be a different story.
Try using a bloody RWD model instead of the gutless AWD model everytime the AWD model is way slower I have a skyline 350gt hybrid RWD that smoked a modified audi s5 2019 lol
Should be racing against the RS3 not the IS3, just to be fair.
Racing the RS3 wouldn’t be fair lol, it weighs a lot less than the Q50 RS but has the same power output, it wouldn’t even be close.
I just beat the crap out of one of those infiniti that tried to race me not even 20min ago in my 2020 wex sti
that went exactly how i thought. Also S3 isn't stock but probably just an exhaust.
Exhaust pipes that’s all
It probably nets nothing, maybe a tad bit more weight and more sound.
Doubt “exhaust only” no way
@@swype.media-9309 I might be wrong the exhaust apparently adds about 1000whp
Even a basic A3 2.0T Quattro with a stage 1 tune would take that Q50. I already found that out from experience….. if the Q50 was modded it would be very even.
Driver mod needed
Challenger scatpack vs 5.0
Shame for nissan, was beaten in all ways possible by a poor golf which got one turbo less, two cylinders less, 1000cc less, over 100bhp less.. AND most of all it's almost a shitty fwd.. despite the infinity i think is proper awd with rear bias and longitudinally mounted engine.
@@layne4376 i'm not a citizen of that shitty EMPIRE, so i don't know and don't wonna know what "lbs" mean, but probably it's some ancient unit. International unit for weight are gram, for our situation- kilogram.
@@layne4376 300kilos isn't a quarter of weight for any of those cars, but 100+ bhp it is a quarter of total power for that infinity, as well as it is @30% of S3 power. Still seems to you that weight difference is able to justify loosing dragrace?
Funny that the S3 won when it’s actually a class lower than the Q50RS should have been up against an S4 or RS4
Rs3 vs red sport next please
Why? RS3 is way faster than an S3 . So you already know
You chose the wrong Audi! Should have been the RS3! Would have been a Better comparison!
I'm wondering if Sam knows how turbocharged cars with modified exhaust applications work. 🤔 Stop calling it stock. If you saw the last video you'll know the Audi had been tuned as well. Give it straight up or race the cars with similar modifications.
Yes sir
Audis stock exhausts flow well enough that aftermarket’s are just for sound usually, not performance gain. You need a tune to get more power out of an aftermarket exhaust, and just because the Audi has an exhaust doesn’t mean it’s tuned.
@@BrownSofaGamer They delineated that it was tuned in the previous video. Also, turbos respond differently to simple modifications especially ones that are connected to the exhaust manifold directly.
@@c.j.coates974 He said it has a piggy back tune which has multiple maps and be mapped back to stock. Piggyback maps are also inconsistent compared to regular tunes, so even if he did have a different map, it would’ve varied the results more. And I just told you, on the stock tune on an Audi an aftermarket exhaust is gonna ad maybe 15hp if you’re really luck, which is nothing.
Audis are computers on wheels. Exhaust modifications are negligible as the ECU will make only exactly the power it’s programmed to make. You’re lucky to even get 8HP more with an exhaust.
It probably would help if you compared apples to apples. The S3 is very likely modified (very easy to do on a turbo car). The S3 driver says he ran a 12.2 while a stock S3 will run high 12’s/low 13’s. Something isn’t smelling right here…
I thought he said 12.8
Everyone says that when the car they want to win loses
@@siphosithole1675 nope, 12.2 right at the end
@@BrownSofaGamer it’s called facts. I could care less which car wins.
@@siphosithole1675 you are right (just reviewed again) 😉
Q50rs vs tuned fusion sport
I own an infiniti and No it’s better to have the infiniti in manual mode you just missed the shift, in manual mode it shifts so hard that you can even feel a sudden hit in your back it’s like it jumps forward
I feel like spending some time with the Infiniti (like ownership and getting to understand the patterns of the transmission) could allow for a better drag race if you truly indulge into practicing and trial and error at certain shift points and throttle levels. Every car is different so maybe one could find a pattern in the infinitis transmission hiccups and then dial in the rpm threshold needed to result in a smooth, clean shift from first to second. Now that’s not to say that it will give the infiniti some Supercar 0-60 numbers, but it could definitely make for a more closer resulting finish in this specific drag race atleast 😂
The jatco transmission is the weak point of the Q. And for some reason Nissan decides to stick with a 9at version with the z35. Hopefully it's better than that trash 7at
Newer q50's have sport plus.
If you watch this and expect this is how it will go in real life your very wrong, I have a hard time watching this guy, I like what he is trying to do. But the races just don’t add up, the q50 base makes 300whp (I did research) in a comment by Sam car legion he said the Audi makes 200 wheel, and this is a q50 red sport?? And it loses? Hell nah something is wrong here.
Especially on the roll race
I have a stage 2 mkv gti which is enough to pull on an s3 (I raced one when it was stock) then raced q50 base 2020 and lost by abt a car and a 1/2 not even a red sport.
Sorry I miss typed - it actually makes 2000whp
With E85 it makes 6000 whp
Haha.. A base Q50 does not make 300 whp.. Do your research again..
That's a tuned S3 for sure lol
Nope, it would be much faster if it was. Ask me how I know..
12.8 and 4.5 are stock s3 numbers
definetly is NOT tuned, my stock S3 runs the same times, get a clue ! LOL
Yes a tuned S3 running stock S3 numbers. Join the clown club🤡
@@huggystate5737do you happen to know the trap speed at 12.8?