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- After all the news that @Indian_Motorcycle wanted to close dealers and then go directly to the customer.. I wanted to reach out to Indian Motorcycle for an Official Response!
Also it came to light the biggest issue going around was the AI made videos that are junk and don't help anyone!
I want to highlight @FullThrottleHOG for talking about AI videos first but this is an issue also!
Here is FullthrottleHOG and his AI video
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Here is the garbage video that is all AI
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hahhahaah Im going to pin this comment!! Thank you!! 💪💪💪💪💪
@@Ridingfish lol. Go right ahead young man!!!
I knew this was a fib from the beginning but thanks for the official confirmation from Indian. That should ease some of the dudes that are freaking out. Lol The dudes that are creating these lies about Indian motorcycles are just haters or must be drinking Bud Light and wearing their ladies high heels on the weekends.
I believe some ppl have PTSD from Victory lol 💪 💪 💪 Let's make the record correct and go back to ripping on our bikes!!! Doing motorcycle things with our motorcycle family!!
Yes thank you Again Fish! You're The Man! 😎🇺🇲🤘
💪 💪 💪 Thank you for all the support!!
I can't count how many times I've been clicking off these AI generated lists. Cars, bikes, firearms, sports, computers and other tech vids.
As soon as I hear those 'voices', I'm done most of the time.
Of course, if they get the voices to sound human, maybe they'll have to put a disclaimer on the vids, like with accepting cookies?
It's also great with the AI generated lists that never match what's on the videos, but with the commenters complaining about it, I guess we're actually making them more money.
Thanks for putting this out Sir. Hope this reaches the masses. It seems some TH-camrs are regurgitating this "unreal" info.
Yep, unfortunately the false stuff is like wild fires the truth puts few at rest but they don't spread the word
Thank you clearing this up!!! I saw another TH-camr report on this yesterday and was deeply concerned. I understand that he has since pulled his video. Keep doing what you are doing. You have awesome content! 2023 Indian Pursuit DH Premium here.
Thank you, I appreciate the support 💪
Love Indian motorcycles. We have officially purchased the 26,000 square foot brick and block, soon to be Indian Motorcycle venue in Kendall, Wisconsin. Hope you can come.....end of the summer. Saw those videos and thought WTF, no way, someone has a mental problem. Can't wait for the next video. You a smart boy hey.
Hit me up!! I live in the twin cities MN, I'll happily come out!!
I hope it's a huge success and then you open a second in Dayton, OH. We use to have a Victory Dealership that sold me on that brand, now we need an Indian dealership and not have to go to Columbus, Indy or Northern Kentucky
I have ordered Snowmobiles online.. It's called Snow Check .. I get a certain price. The sled is shipped to the Dealer who uncrates it and sets it up. I long for the Days when you could buy a motorcycle in a Crate for about $200.00 Less say in the 1980's
Thanks, brother. I watched that fake video this morning before work. It definitely seemed super sketchy but now I’m certain it’s all BS. Ride safe, everyone!
I worked for a service provider in North London. With 38 service engineers, , there was about 12 office staff, to remain competitive, they outsourced contact to our customers, to a call centre in Ireland. During covid Pandemic, everyone worked from home. So the boss soon realised he could save a packet, by having no office, as a permanent arrangement. Now all our competitors, do the same. Business is business..!! And eventually, yes, all motorcycles will be delivered direct to you. In a flat pack probably.. best wishes
This was absurd the moment i heard it. I'm gonna let that channel know how i feel about their bs! I saw both of those videos. Thanks for shedding light on this crap. Glad to hear it is bs.
Thanks brother.
(Although I am still going to blame you for the new Indian that’s gonna be parking next to my Harley.)
Thanks for this video. I recently purchased my first Indian (a pursuit) and saw some of those videos this past week. I was pretty disappointed. But thankfully I’ve seen a few of your videos and saw this one pop up. Very glad I watched. I’ve now subscribed to you. Much appreciated!!
First, CONGRATULATIONS on your PURSUIT!! 💪 💪 I hope you're loving it!!
Second, I'm happy you can just keep on enjoying your bike!!!
Third, I appreciate you and your support with subscribing!! I'll keep making motorcycle content and hope you enjoy it brother!! 💪 💪
According to my friends at the local HD dealer. DTC models of operations are absolutely real. It is also no secret that Ford and others are doing the same thing.
Ill hit up a few friends i have in the HD world but as for now Indian Motorcycles says they have no plan on going away from their dealers
Makes sense. I’d rather Indian scale back than wait until they need to be bailed out by the American Government multiple times like Harley Davidson did.
First thing I said when I saw the video… oh.. well other brands are closing dealers too. 😂 I agree with your thoughts. Also… this is a lesson in vetting info before chasing views. 👌🏾
My guy!! what i really found interesting is when i found the same video about D2C for both HD and IMC and the layout was so similar haha The algorithm loved their channel though!! I need to work on thumbnails!!
I bought my last Harley (used) from an Indian dealer as they were great to deal with compared to any metro Detroit Harley dealership I tried to shop at. IMO, the metro Detroit HD dealers are desperate, pressuring, and overcharging in order to cover their massive floorplans and new, HD corporate pushed, over the top dealer facilities.
I remember when there was a small dealership in a large town back in the 70's. They might have had a dozen bikes in there. Now the town has nearly doubled in size and there is a big box dealership with must be 50 bikes in there, many used, but I didn't see any customers. The old shop back in the 70's the one with the small building had lots of customers. You always saw a customer in there, back then.
Thank you! This year I’ve jumped all in with Indian. We bought a 2020 Challenger and a 2018 Chieftain Limited. I love both bikes and rarely drive a car now. With all that said, I watched that Motorcycle Central video and it bothered me badly. Your video makes perfect sense. Again, Thank You!! We really like your content by the way.
Thank you for the kind words!!! I appreciate them and you!! 💪 💪
Good stuff. Specialized, Giant, and Trek bicycles all experimented with this route a number of years back and the bike shops ended up staying and they mostly just supplemented those with their own company owned bike shops. When it comes to bikes and motorcycles, most people want hands on experience before they spend thousands of dollars plain and simple.
Absolutely.
Love those Indian motorcycles!
They just keep getting better and better 👍
I agree with you!! 💪 💪 💪
I heard an equally horrifying rumor.
That Indian wants to do away with the iconic Indian headdress. I own an older Chief, and have a small amount of Indian blood in me. That Indian headdress symbol is the happiest part of my Indian. The entire brand would become meaningless to my heritage without that important aspect of the company. Let me know, please, what your sources have to say. Please let them hear my thoughts as an Indian Chief owner, and I hear others stating thoughts to leave the company if it occurs. 😢 thank you for this interesting AI issue too.
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I don't believe there is any truth in going away from the logo... now that being said i DO KNOW they won't use the logo with color anymore.
Good video and information shared. I've clicked on a couple of those AI generated content videos. Within seconds, I knew it AI generated crap. Unfortunately just clicking and watching a few seconds helps them. Even a dislike helps their numbers.
Yes, unfortunately, you are not wrong.. Then, some creatures struggle to get pushed.. maybe I should take some lessons on thumbnails!! Haha thank you for the support!!
THANKS for clearing this up.. Reminds me of what a RUMOR can do.... Remember High School?? Personally I don't do direct to Customer. WHY? When I purchase a vehicle I seat in it for 45 minutes minimum. I check ergonomics etc... On a bike I try for an hour!! 1 time I sat on a Suzuki M109 for 1 hour exact. Both hands on bars etc... Had a customer come up to me and touched my shoulder, when I turned my head towards him I think he filled his jeans... That was in 2006 I think? What would be COOL and I mentioned this to a Polaris Rep. Have the customer order the bike either online or @ Dealer w/ options paint etc... When it arrives @ the Dealer the Indian branded aftermarket parts are on the bike. Ok Take Care..
Great video and information Brother. Thanks for doing the leg work and getting corporates official statement 😎🤘👊
That's what I do.. lol, I'm a different kind of guy with friends in places to help me out!! 💪 💪
Scared me, I just bought a challenger limited. I'm a subscriber, love the channel.
Thank you for the clarification that's another good reason to subscribe to your channel
Thank you for your support, I appreciate you and the sub!!
I just saw that video too. Really nice to see Indian be aware and issue official statement. I stopped watching that m central video since I thought it was AI.
It was cool of Indian Motorcycle to give me the statement 100%
Thanks for the info and Bringing the truth out. Saw that same clip and was wondering if it was real.. thank u. Will share this.
Thank you for sharing and the support of the channel.. also helping spread the word of the truth!!!
Man I could have used AI to start mess deck rumors back in the day. “ The Commanding Officer has confirmed we will not get any liberty this underway.”
That video popped up in my feed also. I listened to it, thought it was Bullchit & now, you have just proved it ....
Thank you very much & kudos out to your "friends" in the company. But this is also the company that a former CEO told me, on camera that Victory was not going away as a brand . They also have told me the Thunderstroke engine is not going away either.
Yeah Right .......
Yo man... report that crap to TH-cam. It's false information. Maybe they will remove it. And Thanks for investigating, good looking out for all your Indian brothers and sisters.
I DIDN'T KNOW WE CAN REPORT IT!! I better watch what I say!! Haha I'll look into it
@Ridingfish yeah man you can navigate your way into reporting the creator.
@@RayRayTheWeekendWarrior I'll definitely look into it!
@RayRayTheWeekendWarrior I do want to make it clear.. I grew up with snitches get stitches motto.. hahahaha 🤷♂️
Lol... we got to nip this crap in the butt quickly. Can't let people stir up false news about our brand.
Good morning Fred. I appreciate your right or wrong from the heart input rather than BS that is purposely thrown at us from those that have their own agenda, Keep up your hard work. Thank you..
Yes, passion is one thing I have!!
Thanks man for flushing out the truth. When you gonna get a Goldwing?😜
Hahaha Maybe someday!! But today I LOVE my bike!!
Yeah, that video really messed me up. I think the direct customer could work. But only with the partnership with the dealers for service and support. I really appreciate that. You have a primary source that gave you good information. Thanks riding fish.
Yea, I agree, maybe order ans then it goes to deal ans they bring to your home?!?! They then are like the Amazon driver!! 💪 💪
To dealerships home by the same person in Florida are closing. Stus in Fort Myers is already closed and Stus in Fort Lauderdale will be closing their doors today.
Very sad news!! Maybe opportunity for someone else to take advantage of a region 🤔?!?! Very sad tho to lose them
Glad you cleared that up!
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Good vid fish. It's now so important to weed out the real from the fake. Be safe.
Thank you for bringing this to my attention, If it was not for you I wouldn't not of had the radar up as fast to spot it!!
Thanks for putting this out. Now how about a video on how to get a buy a franchise indian dealership
I will look into this topic.. I do believe it is not very easy to say the least.. but enough money anything is possible
Thank you! Insight!
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The Motorcycle Central stuff is absolutely worthless. Watched about 10 seconds of one, and knew it was completely fabricated. Harley Davidson and Indian should sue the owners of Motorcycle Central for slander.
I wish TH-cam could do something about it. 🤷♂️
I only got half way through your video and stopped there. In the early part of it I thought to myself that the information you were describing had come from an AI source. I feel that TH-cam should be taking this crap down as this is supposed to be social media and there is not one thing about an AI produced video that is social. I stumbled upon one last week that had said how some of the M/C major players were going broke and much of it seemed purely made up so I started checking into the source for Motorcycle Central and it did not take me long to find out they are fake. If TH-cam does not act fast on this it will alienate a large amount of viewer's who do not want to take the time to check the backgrounds of the content they are watching.
Thanks for the info!
You bet!
Thanks for clarifying. Saw that video the other day, I was afraid I was gonna have to buy a Honda?!?🤣 Thank Goodness.
So happy to hear that report is the nonsense I was hoping it was.
Thanks again fish,
C'mon Early Spring.
Anytime!!! Please please spring come!! 🙏
Good video . I hadn’t heard anything about dealerships being shut down , so I’m glad you got out in front of it .
🙏 Thank you!! Yea it seemed like the last couple of days there was a push in that other channel that started going around from the algorithm
You just about gave me a heart attack!!!
Sorry, I really wanted to bring light to that ans future issues with AI videos
Thought it might be false but it did bring up some questions. I did ask Throttle Blip where he got the statement from but no reply. I then sent a message to Polaris Corporate letting them know because if true it would be damaging if false & not put to bed quickly it could have been devastating. I am glad its false but Polaris need to increase the dealership reach here in the UK or at least get some approved service centres going to get anywhere near the reach HD have. There are about 20 Indian Dealers in the UK but only around 26 HD but there are probably more than 26 workshops that will work on a Harley & I would be surprised if there were more than 2 or 3 that will work on Indian. If you have an issue with service you have no where else to go. I have to go over 6 hours away!! But I love my Indians, thank you Fred hope to see you at IBW in 2024.
Indian of Boston , closed. No notice, no local dealer.
😲 😱 really!??! That's so sad
I always give a thumbs down to the fake sites.
nice!!!! Give those thumbs up to the other guys too!!! It's one of the hardest things to get as a creator!
I can't wait from the both of them to go out of business Harley-Davidson and Indianl
Ok, why why would you want that to happen?!
@@Ridingfish the money they charge for the motorcycles is ridiculous there's no need of it
@@Ridingfish specially Harley-Davidson the way they treat the people who keep them alive and keep them going f*** Harley-Davidson
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💪 💪 💪 Thank you for the support!!
I think you are talking about Throttle Blips video about Indian and D2C.
Yes, he took it down to be fair!! 💪 💪
@@Ridingfish AI is going to ruin a good thing we have with TH-cam.
@@donwolk4435 Maybe if we all support the good ones we will make it.. hard for NEW ones tho!! Eekkk
Good video great info.
Thank you! I appreciate the kind words!!
Thanks for the info...
What happened to our friend Curtis Sawyer?
If I want to hear "Fake News" I can watch CNN , MSNBC , PBS and FOX ect ..
Hahah No Fake news on My channel !! 💪
Whatchu talkin bout Willis? Where’s the fake news here? Point it out.
I saw a video talking about how electric bikes are popular ... that must be fake too because I've never seen one on the road.
I'm not sure if it's true but didn't Livewire only sell like 100 bikes?? But I know zero moves a good amount. And electric bicycles seem do be moving well (super 73s?)
@@Ridingfish Zero may move a good amount of bikes , as you say, but I personally have never seen one on the streets... maybe they sell in other countries but I question their popularity here in the states.
I've been to a few rallies this year & have yet to see any electric bikes that weren't dealer displayed.
What a world we are stareing at. One will never know what is real or AI. One will never know fact from fiction. Good grief
I don’t need a video to convince me Indian is not going to be around long term. I’ll I need to see is Indians dealer network has never expanded since Polaris purchased the name. They have steadily decreased. There was three in my area a couple years ago now I would have to go to another state to find one. Harley has at least seven within 50 miles and they all do great. I just don’t know how Indian can survive if they can’t get enough people excited about their products to get people willing to invest in wanting to build dealerships.
Thanks for the info brother!!
💪 💪 💪 Yes sir!!! I appreciate you and the support!!
That Website is Hogwash..
My buddy sent me that video I was like fake as hell. No way they do that. Mind you I am an HD guy.
Yes, but it's crazy how many thought it was real!
@@Ridingfish I agree. People need to learn to think critically. Don’t believe every stinking video on TH-cam. Or anywhere else. If it sounds too good or to crazy to be true. Usually is. Except for the ugly ass new 2023 cvo road glide. That came true and it hurts my heart. Lol
“I’m going to be kinda frankly honest…” I have no idea what that means.
I'll boycott indian for closing dealerships.
Hope you watched the video.. There will be no need to Boycott.. buy and ride my friend!!
This AI looks like a great tool for marketing warfare. Great, that's all we need, more lies about products and people we like. Sheesh.
It really is scary times!!! 😨
That fake web site said some dealers were discounting Electric cars 87%
I hate these AI channels and websites.
Me too. And I have feel for them as I was entertained!!
TH-cam first of year is coming out with new rules on AI. Ride safe
Yes.. I will be interested to see how TY handles it. So far not so good
@@Ridingfishvery true
Dammit. I fell for the BS story. AI creating videos has never been on radar. I won’t blindly trust again. Thank you for correcting this huge error.
just wait, next up... your doctor will be AI. A LOT OF DEHUMANIZING happening. stay in the chilly wind.👍
Scary times.. I mean we can video chat the Dr ... 🤷♂️
Scare tactics for clicks. I guess you can post anything you want whether it is true or not. This is our future.
Sad truth!! 😔
I saw a video about Harley closing stores, selling direct to Consumers.. that video looked like b.s. I've seen several videos lately about New Harley bikes and new Indian bikes.. but like these B.S. videos
if they close dealerships who will service your bike or who will the service writers be for warranty work?
100%... You are correct!!! It's not like Indian Motorcycle corporation will just send ppl warranty parts!!
Dude on a brighter note, can you please tell us what Indian has coming up with top end of the market bikes challenger, Pursuit , etc if anything?? 2024 disappointing indian
They said the same in another video about Harley… and trying to push an electric narrative
Haha yes!! It's crazy!! I'm not sure how GREAT THE ELECTRIC motorcycle are doing!! 🤷♂️ 🤷♂️
Just as I thought harley has followed suit
When I first saw that I thought that's BS
This is all BS Indian is owned by Polaris and they have plenty of money, the ones that talk about Indian going under are the haters either can’t afford one or just don’t like them, look at Indian on the stock market
It’s a 12 year old boy in his basement it’s all run on AI 🤖
I have bot accounts. This is even worse.
That page is bogus. Just spreading bs, probably made by HD affiliate.
You could be right but then they do dumb HD stuff too
@@Ridingfish yeah, I watched a few mins of the HD video a few weeks ago and it had similar context to this one. I don't see Indian going anywhere or HD. Yes sales are down but this government has the economy so f'd up, it's hard to dish out 20k+ on something you don't drive everyday.
towards???
Are you talking about the fact that I didn't read that correctly? If so, I know and full send left it in!!
no ... THEY wrote it like that
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same rubbish with ford being said
It's crazy!! Just getting views.. but it comes off real so they are just hooking ppl!!
FN Trolls
Even worse... ppl that don't even care about their products and information they put out!
LOL could you imagine, you come home from work and there's a giant crate on your driveway that say POLARIS on it.... now what do you do, uncrate it yourself and assemble it your self, then some knuckle head somewhere assembles it wrong goes out crashes then Sue's Polaris, or damages it trying to install the handlebars and makes a claim for it. No dealers? Where do I get warranty work done or accessories installed? I would've never fell for that.
exactly!!!!!