This is an incredibly useful tutorial. I was struggling to get some anchor points to work how I wanted, with this, I now understand exactly what I was doing wrong. Thank you so much!
Finally :) Thanks! Just please make sure this software doesn't became bloated with workarounds. I know you paved the way in the industry with SP, so it was hard to predict some problems design-wise, and now all you can do is work around those design decisions, to keep backward compatibility etc. But at some point it may be better to just start from scratch, and if you won't do it, someone else will. Which is good, because competition is always good for users, but on the other hand I like you guys and I'd like you to stay in the lead with your products. Well that's it from me, probably didn't make much sense but yeah. Stay awesome, Allegorithmic.
Would probably be easier have this automatically enabled for both normal and height if a generator is applied on a layer above. I can't think of a situation where I wouldn't want this or it wouldn't be easier to just paint out the generated detail I don't want. Anyway this is a great workaround and a very welcome addition. Appreciate the hard work.
Yeah, this is awesome/looks very powerful. But I agree, it looks like could be automated/much easier to setup. Seems a bit tedious. I'd leave the settings there, if you want to dig for it, but maybe do some auto setup, or quicker/easier way somehow if possible. :)
Thank you, that was really helpful, especially the trick with just one layer collecting all the information from below. Just what I was hoping to learn!
This is cool but still only solves half of the problem. :P You only need one anchor point but still need to reference it on each layer mask or generator where you want it to be taken into account. It would be great if in the next version there was setting inside the Anchor Point to make it "Global", causing it to be automatically added to all generators' micro details above it. Have to admit I agree with rurzan too and maybe this is just another workaround that adds more complexity. Maybe in the future you can keep using this technology under the hood while changing the way it's set up in the UI to simplify the process somehow. Either way, keep up the good work, the lastest updates have been awesome!
Nice tutorial and very useful feature! ... and it feels like workaround ;). It looks like you are trying to add some features from node system of Designer to the layer system of Painter. So anchor is like an output of the node from some random place (some layer with normal or height which could even be invisible by itself) which is then connected to other node (generator or mask on the other random layer). So... maybe instead of placing anchors it would be better to draw connections between nodes like in Designer and paint on nodes instead of layers and connect all the things freely?
Great video Just wanna ask is it possible to use anchor point on filters? I'm trying to use this technique on baked lighting stylized for some reason, it does not work.
is it possible to do this with more than one material? for example, this isn't my exact case as my one is a bit unique to explain but lets say i had a piece of metal sheeting with bolts in it, the metal sheet is engraved and has an anchor point, the metal bolts are painted on via using height and a black mask of another material, how would i allow those painted bolts also be noticed by the sheet metal anchor when its another separate materiel?
You can't add effects on a folder content, but you can set a layer in "pass-through" mode instead and put you anchor on it. This will achieve the same result (retrieving the flattened layers inside your folder).
Roman Pivtoranis You can organize your layers in a folder if you wish to... You just need to make sure your final layer is a pass through layer with an anchor point, and reference to the anchor. A bit more organized indeed.
Good question. Create a layer and set its blend mode to passthrough on all channels, then Anchor Point that passthrough layer. It "snapshots and anchors" everything below it. Or you can anchor point multiple layers, create another layer and bring the anchosr in with FIll, then anchorpoint on top of that new filled layer again. Advanced stuff but the possiblities are endless ;)
A fill layer is just a uniform color, so putting an anchor on it will retrieve a flat and uniform value. What you want is probably the color and the masking combined. That's doable with a path-trough layer and an anchor on it.
This could be because the Anchor point is not below the generator. You need to make sure the the anchor point is always below the layers you are trying to reference the anchor point from.
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Excellent tutorial. Very clear and straight forward. Love the French accent, too.
I must say, this workflow is VERY convoluted, I find myself coming to this video everytime I have to use this feature
True. in my opinion
it is possible to do it much easier and friendly...
this system does not appeal to me :(
Your accent make it look even more artistic
This is an incredibly useful tutorial. I was struggling to get some anchor points to work how I wanted, with this, I now understand exactly what I was doing wrong. Thank you so much!
Awesome to hear this video was helpful
Finally :) Thanks! Just please make sure this software doesn't became bloated with workarounds. I know you paved the way in the industry with SP, so it was hard to predict some problems design-wise, and now all you can do is work around those design decisions, to keep backward compatibility etc. But at some point it may be better to just start from scratch, and if you won't do it, someone else will. Which is good, because competition is always good for users, but on the other hand I like you guys and I'd like you to stay in the lead with your products. Well that's it from me, probably didn't make much sense but yeah. Stay awesome, Allegorithmic.
Thanks very much : )
Most informative, especially about having multiple layers for details using anchor points.
Would probably be easier have this automatically enabled for both normal and height if a generator is applied on a layer above. I can't think of a situation where I wouldn't want this or it wouldn't be easier to just paint out the generated detail I don't want.
Anyway this is a great workaround and a very welcome addition. Appreciate the hard work.
Thanks very much for the feedback : ) We are always working to improve.
Yeah, this is awesome/looks very powerful. But I agree, it looks like could be automated/much easier to setup. Seems a bit tedious. I'd leave the settings there, if you want to dig for it, but maybe do some auto setup, or quicker/easier way somehow if possible. :)
I agree wholeheartedly. Still, much better than what we had to deal with before.
Alors là... merci vieux... tu te rend pas compte à quel point ça va mettre utile. Merci infiniment
Thank you, that was really helpful, especially the trick with just one layer collecting all the information from below. Just what I was hoping to learn!
This is cool but still only solves half of the problem. :P You only need one anchor point but still need to reference it on each layer mask or generator where you want it to be taken into account. It would be great if in the next version there was setting inside the Anchor Point to make it "Global", causing it to be automatically added to all generators' micro details above it.
Have to admit I agree with rurzan too and maybe this is just another workaround that adds more complexity. Maybe in the future you can keep using this technology under the hood while changing the way it's set up in the UI to simplify the process somehow.
Either way, keep up the good work, the lastest updates have been awesome!
Thanks very much for the feedback : ) We greatly appreciate it.
Just very useful information and perfect lesson. Merci beaucoup :)
Glad you liked it!
Thank you very much for the hint with blending mode "Passthrough". It's exactly what i searched few hours))
Thank you, repeated the task like 5 times , now i know :) It was a pain to bake the normal mask, everytime you change something :)
"taken INTO account". You said it so many times in 12 minutes that I had to tell you ;)
Thanks for the tutorial. Didn't know about the passthrough.
Haha, thanks for keeping count. We should make a drinking game. Glad you liked the video!
Great tute, cheers!
Thank you man,very useful tutorial!
Great tips, thanks for putting that together.
Great tutorial ,very useful.
so helpful thank you!
Nice tutorial and very useful feature! ... and it feels like workaround ;). It looks like you are trying to add some features from node system of Designer to the layer system of Painter. So anchor is like an output of the node from some random place (some layer with normal or height which could even be invisible by itself) which is then connected to other node (generator or mask on the other random layer). So... maybe instead of placing anchors it would be better to draw connections between nodes like in Designer and paint on nodes instead of layers and connect all the things freely?
Thanks for your feedback. We greatly appreciate it.
Helped me a lot, thanks for the video!!!!
Mind blow, just learned what passthrough mode does
Great mode indeed! Lots of uses.
helpfull tutorial
Great video
Just wanna ask is it possible to use anchor point on filters?
I'm trying to use this technique on baked lighting stylized
for some reason, it does not work.
great work
This is exactly what I want!
is it possible to do this with more than one material? for example, this isn't my exact case as my one is a bit unique to explain but lets say i had a piece of metal sheeting with bolts in it, the metal sheet is engraved and has an anchor point, the metal bolts are painted on via using height and a black mask of another material, how would i allow those painted bolts also be noticed by the sheet metal anchor when its another separate materiel?
Thank You very much!
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Vincent is the best!
Thanks!
thanks!!
i want my normal map to have its own material with generators when i project?
Does this work with Folders? It would be great for organization purposes to have a folder that contains all the height/normal layers in it.
Roman Pivtoranis same thought here, folder feels like a more logical choice
You can't add effects on a folder content, but you can set a layer in "pass-through" mode instead and put you anchor on it. This will achieve the same result (retrieving the flattened layers inside your folder).
Roman Pivtoranis You can organize your layers in a folder if you wish to... You just need to make sure your final layer is a pass through layer with an anchor point, and reference to the anchor. A bit more organized indeed.
thanks!
trés BIEN! ? thx
In substance painter 2021, you gotta use the" mask builder legacy" and not the mask editor to make this work.
does it only work on mask builder for the previous versions? can't seem to find the micro detail buttons
@@jonathanteodoro4156 Try looking above the image inputs of the mask builder.
What if need to anchor ⚓ multiple layers
Good question. Create a layer and set its blend mode to passthrough on all channels, then Anchor Point that passthrough layer. It "snapshots and anchors" everything below it.
Or you can anchor point multiple layers, create another layer and bring the anchosr in with FIll, then anchorpoint on top of that new filled layer again.
Advanced stuff but the possiblities are endless ;)
Thanks
brush tool is not working ...what will i do
why this does not work with fill layers? if I want to use height sometimes I want to change the depth or something else.
A fill layer is just a uniform color, so putting an anchor on it will retrieve a flat and uniform value. What you want is probably the color and the masking combined. That's doable with a path-trough layer and an anchor on it.
thanks!
thanks [*french laugh*]
thx.
ca m'a l'air compliqué pour les autres layers
when I try to choose the anchor point for my micro details normal, the anchor point tab just shows up grayed out! any idea why?
This could be because the Anchor point is not below the generator. You need to make sure the the anchor point is always below the layers you are trying to reference the anchor point from.
Allegorithmic yep, that was the case. Thanks for the reply though ✌️
Nice french!
how to use it with Ambien Oclussion?
You need to create an AO channel in the texture set settings and then enable the AO channel on the material.
THHHHHANNNNKS!!!!
Why so tense bro? Your cursor is shaking. Relax, it's ok, we love you! :D
"today we're going to fuck us.." jokes aside, thanks for the tutorial!
Could you not just Group the layers and then anchor the group?
At this time, you can't add an anchor to the group
Этот французский акцент....
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Please Don't let French people make English Tutorials