Prosecutor nearly removed from courtroom in Mateen Cleaves case
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 10 ต.ค. 2024
- Assistant Wayne County Prosecutor Lisa Lindsey was nearly removed from courtroom by a deputy for claiming judge wasn't treating her fairly in her prosecution of Mateen Cleaves. She apologized to the judge and was allowed to stay.
An apology should never include “but”.
An apology should never be demanded with threats.
@@drg8687
The JUDGE was fair.She could gave kicked that disrespectful person out of her court !!!!!!!!!!!!
She should have said , " no apology coming from litigator . . . . she's OUT ! "
An apology never includes “but”. It just doesn’t.
@@drg8687 An apology in a courtroom is “to the court”. To restore decorum to the court the presiding judge may demand an apology of anyone allowed to be in the court. Under the threat of contempt of court charges. The area around a judge demanding a personal apology is outside my knowledge. However, American judges have god like power in their courtroom. Subject to a complaint or review by a superior (supreme) court. An attorney presenting before the court must be VERY careful in any remarks made to the court. It is walking the razor’s edge in that situation. Best to make an objection, have the record made, then bring it up on appeal. In many instances an objection may not be practical.
Finally a judge who does not prosecutors run the courtroom. We need more judges like this.
thats true
But she did. She allowed that lame apology. The prosecutor was not sorry and will be bad-mouthing that judge every where she goes. She should have been held in jail for contempt for at least a few hours.
Huh ?
Amen!
Sounds more like a Judge doesn't like being called out for her evident bias against this prosecutor.
Awesome 👏🏻 judge 👩⚖️ go girl !! We need more judges like her !!! Prosecutors are sooo out of control in this country!!!
LMAO, yes yes, the judge got but hurt for being called out (the judge is in the wrong), but you support tyrannical judicial systems i guess LMAO.
That deputy trying HARD not to crack a smile
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lol I saw that!!!
The look on that deputys face as she walked away is my absolute favorite part of this video!
I didn't notice that thanks lol
Ditto!
Good catch! 1:49
She's like 😏
Whenever you say I’m sorry but.... you never should have said you’re sorry, you just nullified and negated every word that came before but.
EXACTLY!!!👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿
R W yep!
I'm sorry. I'm not going to apologize.
Never apologise if you did nothing wrong. (Jordan Peterson : 12 rules for life an anditote for chaos)
@Troyphy yup.
The assumptions that prosecutors are honest seekers of justice and judges are impartial are fallacies.
Complete fallacies
Absolutely
Indeed!
wow so profound. lmao
👏👏👏
If I was a judge first thing I would do is throw the prosecuting attorney out of my court room.
I've watched this prosecutor a number of times and she is, in my opinion, very unprofessional.
Agree. She was the prosecutor for Bob Bashara and that's the first time I've ever seen her
peace2014 she's got anger issues real bad!
She's a feminist!
peace2014 I wonder why Lisa Lindsey hasn’t been discharged from her job. She’s extremely incompetent
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Boy, if it was any of us as defendants pulling that crap, we would've been out of that courtroom for contempt so fast!...
After getting tackled by 4 goons & tased...
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@@saulsegura7659 What? I don't understand your comment
Lisa Owens I think it’s Adam Sandler on Valium.
This is the time when the judge should file sanctions against the attorneys and contempt of court rulings. I understand where the criminals act disrespectfully to the court, but not the officers of the court.
Prosecutors have full immuntiy they cant be held in contempt
Suppose what the prosecutors is alleging is real and the judge is not following the law and letting in things that she should not be let in? Judges get reprimand, suspended and disbarred everyday in the USA and around the world for nor following the law, breaking the law and bad conduct.
@@nightbest2308 I see no evidence of that here.
The judge engaged in conduct prejudicial to the effective and expeditious business of the court. Previous judges have been suspended for demanding respect from attorneys. The judge is engaging in risky conduct. A complaint should be filed.
What rock did you crawl out from underneath. Yes prosecutors have been sanction they are not above the law.
Can you imagine how she would behave if she was being prosecuted ?..
Yes. I saw video of a corrupt judge just like her being sentenced. She was dragged to jail, kicking and screaming that she deserved more respect
She can barely communicate with clarity; not intelligent enough to practice law.
Who talks to a judge like that!
Sometimes they need to b talked to like that and more. ive seen judges who think they are God! i stood before a judge once who refused a continuance, my lawyer ( that i paid $1000) had not even prepared my defense, judge wouldnt let me talk but told my story for me! accused me of being the girlfriend to my patient who is mentally challenged (i was a newlywed) because the plaintiff had met him in the parking lot ( he told the court this) and filled the judges head with her lies. i didnt know or think that was a thing you could do. defitnely didnt think that should have been allowed.thus bully judge told me if he could he would have sent me to prison that same day. i had never been in court or trouble before.dont know what she told this bully." but he was defitnely biased.16 yrs later and i am still stunned.
She did !! Who the judge think she special no just an sinful judge
When you say "but", everything before that was a lie 😹
That prosecutor is someone who always blames others for her shortcomings. Screaming injustice when she can’t make her case 😂
I'd you think a courtroom judge can can't stop them,,,
Wait until you actually live with one. 😂
What is with this entitlement mentality that some people have? The prosecutor was so out of line I can't believe the patience of this judge.
"But" means forget everything I just said
My grandma used to say, anything that comes after but is shit.... lol
This prosecutor missed the very 1st thing taught in law school. You ain't gonna get anywhere by being disrespectful to the judge. And if you're going to keep failing, leave law.
She did better than leaving law.
She got herself a government job where failing has no personal consequences!
She can be the worst lawyer in history and still have herself a cushy job with lots of benefits all on the taxpayer dime.
DISRESPECTING AN JUDGE SHE IS NO BODY BUT AN SINFUL HUMAN JUDGE'S BE ON THAT POWER TRIP .
This judge is HARDCORE.
She has to be with a couple of drama attorneys' Don't disrespect the court room and try to act professional.
@Keith bengermin what did she sentence you too
In the bedroom
A HARDCORE judge would have squashed this behavior in the first hearing, right off the bat.
Maybe. The obvious thing is that she (the judge) let her very personal emotions get the best of her. The judge is taking a big risk.
The Judge is terrible at speaking in a professional manner. It's the court not her personally that has been offended and its the court that will hold you in contempt. She has to depersonalize it.
Judges should be respectful when speaking too
She's definitely "uppity."
If you want to win your case, DON'T PISS OFF THE JUDGE
Miss Lindsay can't help herself. The snarky, "sassy", in your face, motor mouthing drama is, most likely, built into her from from childhood. She's her own worst enemy because she can't and won't listen, bide her time, and respond like a legally trained adult. All the jurisprudence and court time can't fix that. She needs to grow up.
BEAUTIFULLY SAID! you work with words as a passion, living, or??? I loved this. So elaquently, intelligently said! These days you see text spelling rather than proper spelling, usually words that are the vocabulary of a second grader, and grammar and punctuation...... don't even get me started !!! Lol. 😁😉
bill ding yeh she deserves it u have to respect a judge she can’t except that.
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😂 half the people commenting dont have a college degree, let alone a law degree, and believe they are smarter or better than her.
@@Bruss813 the only person projecting is you. good luck in life bud
This assistant prosecutor needs to find another job... Each time I've watched her, she's been completely unable to separate her personal emotions from her duties as a prosecutor. She's proved time & time again that she lacks decorum as is witnessed by her immature, unprofessional, disrespectful behavior. She doesn't appear to understand her role as an assistant prosecutor in a professional forum. Her attitude is brazen, to say the least, and neither tax payers, or other judiciary personnel/representatives, whether in-house or private, should have to wait until she's 'schooled' in law 101 & elementary decency as a human being, as well as a professional assistant prosecutor in a courtroom. She reflects poorly on the prosecutors office. Nothing, relative to this case, has been addressed. Rather, each breath, along with each minute, has 'centered' around her in one way or another. There are way too many instances thus far where she clearly needed to be placed in contempt & fined consecutively for her 'inappropriate behavior'... And if deemed necessary, the court should issue actual time after a predetermined number of fines have been ordered. Like a child, she needs to 'learn' that her inappropriate behavior will not be tolerated, and sadly, this court needs to turn the attention she receives for her negative behavior to undesireable consequences, or this court will never receive the respect that really, should never be an issue to begin with.
It's a common occurrence with female attorneys.
She is too proud of her hair style!
You should like a PD who got owned by her.
This is what those idiots call being a "strong black woman."
@@Bruss813 Phil Dupont? I remember hin!!
Lindsey is an embarrassment, she should be brought up on charges and possibly dis barred!!
The prosecutor appealed and charges were reinstated.... the higher court sided with her. He goes to trial sometime this year.
They can side with whom ever, going against this judge, with her legitimate complaint, is like going against Trump in court!! The odds are vastly in her court, pun intended!!
Roger Grose She has to get disbarred. She’s incompetent and too ghetto in my opinion
You can’t disbar an attorney for their attitude; license’ are revoked when they’ve committed professional misconduct by breaking an ethics code(s) violations, that could include towards a client or their own behavior but it has to be unlawful & egregious enough that the superior courts won’t consider a “slap on the wrist” type of punishment.
@christian Williams she didnt disrespect the judge. The judge clearly got her feelings hurt due to the prosecutor's insinuation that the judge is being unfair..or as the judge put it "innuendo". That is no reason to sanction or hold an attorney in contempt. It certainly doesn't mean a lawyer should be disbarred.
The prosecutor is really out there. I've been watching her. She is defensive, argumentative and uncooperative. It must be very difficult to deal with her at home. She is unprofessional and has no respect for the bench.
I doubt she has a man. No sane man would deal with that. I bet Cleaves was dying laughing inside. Lol!
She's taking it to the edge and winning. The tactics are shameful and the court obviously has allowed yet another win despite this behavior.
@Bob Most of those with an IQ above average did. Those on the left hand side of the IQ scale voted for Trump.
She's very disrespectful to the Judge!
How?
BLM again!
How the hell is that lady an actual Prosecutor? How low did they set the hiring requirements in this county?
She thinks the Judge is supposed to do her job
Affirmative Action is a joke
Yo!!!!! The smirk on the deputy’s face, though!!!!! 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀
Ya’ll made me go back and replay the post. Yup ! The best part of the whole clip is the officer’s facial expressions.
Obviously this isn't the first time the deputy has seen the prosecutor pull sh*t like this lol
“Yuh know my brother once told me that nuthin’ someone says before the word “but” really counts’”
-Benjen Stark to Tyrion Lannister
Those hollow apologizes....." I'm sorry that you were offended "
I also find it funny that this judge dismissed the case against Mateen Cleaves for lack of probable cause and then a higher court on appeal said the court abused its discretion in dismissing the case. The Michigan Supreme Court also denied the request to hear the appeal of his attorney. He was, however, acquitted at trial. Perhaps there was some truth that the judge did have some sort of issue.
she admits that she has to TRY SOOOOO HARD to stay impartial and yet is willing to arrest a prosecutor for suggesting she's failed to remain impartial? if you admit FROM THE BENCH that you have to TRY SOOOO HARD to not be impartial...that's already showing a reason to suspect maybe you're not succeeding!
As a future attorney and aspiring Judge, I would have sent her out of that courtroom and removed her from the case, then I would have done everything in my power to have her removed from her job. Being disrespectful like that in my courtroom would have cost you your job.
That prosecutor is appalling. Howard did she get her job, let alone keep it? She acts like an ignorant, uneducated, angry nut job that would physically fight the judge and defense. Pitiful courtroom behavior.
Affirmative action hiring. If they fire her, she will sue for racial discrimination.
@@seamorgh21 Dredd Scott Decision. A Blackperson has NO rights that whites need respect. Satanic caveman hiring.
What do you mean. "how did she get the job?". Like the police, TSA and other freaking federal and state idiots. They are all intentionally ans specifically hired BECAUSE of their stupidly. not because of their qualifications.
James Gray Lol Because she’s a black female. Easy way to stop people from saying that. End affirmative action.
Manly Got Away With His Disrespect
Stop Typing Like This.
😑
got* away* with* his* disrespect*
Free lesson, you don't capitalize the first letter of every word. Do you suffer from illiteracy?
Wow! As an attorney, I am speechless. Amazing Linsey wasn't held in contempt.
Courtrooms are pretty relaxed there in the US I see. If a lawyer spoke to the judge in this way here in the UK, he/she would probably be disbarred.
That moment when a judge reminds you what size pants you wear and they ain't that big 🤣🤣🤣
The Judge isn't nobody sinful human Judging people only spirit can Judge is God Almighty 🙏thank you very much.
“I’m sorry but................” completely insincere apology.
Judges under no circumstances may yell or berate anyone in the courtroom. Judges ought to understand that they do not make the rules; judges have a statewide body of cannon that they must follow. Judges ought to be taught that it is not their courtroom; it's the people's, and they are simply stewards to an office. Unfortunately, in this state we have a very feeble system to remove bad judges who refuse to get it. That's why many just don't care and openly disregard the rules.
Coming from someone that is too stupid to know the difference between cannon and canon and knows jack sh** about judicial conduct laws, I and everyone that actually does understand them got a good laugh from your stupid comment.
If that were one of us we'd be in jail!!!
This judge favors criminals. Weak.
I am surprised that the judge didnt throw her out. She let her explain her side... and apparently how the case should be run.
... thats a stretch she didnt have to make. Apology was useless
I've seen judges argue and even go to fighting attorneys over the way they interject personal bias.
She is so unprofessional. Her attitude, her tone, everything. I wouldn't even let her apologize, I would have kicked her out
I have seen her act like this before. She really does need a time out.
The Prosecutor should have known better.
Judges are partial towards certain attorneys. I’ve witnessed it and work in the profession
Have you watched other cases with this lawyer? She's very disrespectful and she gets told in almost every court she's in!
Shut up, dickhead...it's obvious the woman is very fucking unprofessional...you're a fucking idiot, dude...😒😒😒
What was the other lawyer doing that she felt was so bad she needed to address it with the judge ?
In an apology anything following the “but” negates the apology.
Yeh but that prosecutor had it out for Mateen. Our woman love to beat us down. Smh
You go girl! I love this judge.
Wow the left hand smacking the the right hand amazing
Another judge that should be nowhere near a judicial bench . . . .
Shaniqua didn't know when to shut up lmao
The look on the Bailiffs face at the end...
She did NOT apologize to the court. She said she was sorry if the court was offended, that is NOT an apology.
the prosecutor should be brought before the bar for censure
The judge had been more than patient with the prosecutor. The only reason she didn’t hold her in contempt in that moment is because it would have been procedurally inappropriate.
She had to have expressly warned her that she was going to hold her in contempt before.
She wasn't held in contempt because then the judge would be hearing probate contests.
judges are evil
Is this a court room, or an alley? The prosecutor is very unprofessional and ghetto. Complaining about every little thing, and disrespecting the Judge at will. The Judge, in her effort to be fair, is too leinent. She should of held her in contempt along time ago.
should've not should of
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It's called fighting for your case.. If you don't want a lawyer who is willing to go to jail for you then cool. If you want a lawyer to sit back and be humble while the DA takes a shit all over you then cool
it's Wayne County Detroit. Do you expect the first world?
@@StephenSpring1 prosecutors are whole lot worse in the Commonwealth of Kentucky believe me.
Now the question ...is the judge biased?
Just because you say sorry does not mean it its shown by actions
I think the uniformed court official at the end was struggling to avoid laughing.
I didn’t know stuff like this goes on in court!😯
You'd be surprised
Only in america
Where is the full video at on TH-cam what judge is this and attorney is she stills a attorney
Prosecutor is all about drama & thinks it's all about her. Need more judges like this one on the bench.
That's 2mins of my life ill never get back. Waste of my time.
Don't worry you will have more than this in your lifeftime.
Prosecutors like to throw their weight around in the courtroom
This procecutor lady may at times be a pain in the b... but she is passionate and often raises valid points, even the judge herself admitted it. Interesting to watch.
and her hair style speaks volumes, literally!
Timewounds Allheels It's not always necessary to be that confrontational to get your point across. She may have a valid point but it get lost in all the theatrics.
This judge is out of her depth with the most disrespectful ATTYs I have ever seen...SHOULD have halted proceedings or thrown them OUT it's not the playground
She doesn’t get it! Must’ve cheated her way thru law school!
She's a two-for
From what I've watched .the judge has let the big defense attorney attack the lady district attorney over and over ..she has told him to stop but did nothing when he didn't..but want to jail the lady for not just taking it
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Hows that what you watched when the defenses “attack” wasnt in this video?
Hmmmm... sounds like an ego battle in the court of law.
Judge Judy would have done it better because she's got no guilt.
Have not seen a Deputy Pub Prosecutor always speaking in such an attitude, even in other courts she acts like she is Ms Know It All! Wayne County should just remove her, PERIOD!!!
She end up with a failed victory at the end. She was discredited ever since. She better blame herself
take away? DON'T EVEN GO TO COURT.
Ms Linsey is the worst State Attorney I ever seen in court.
Fake judge throws hissy fit towards fake lawyer
I remember that case. That prosecutor must have been the only person in the known universe that did not realize that Mateen Cleaves was set up, and that he did not commit any crime that day.
Is she really a board certified attorney? If so she can't argue coherently nor know points of law she arguing against. She's disrespectful to the judge and does her position as a prosecutor no favours!!!! Totally unprofessional...
Was this captured with a phone or miniature camera or what? I know they are forcing a check of cell phones when entering the court room. I attended these hearings on occasion to produce a film in relation to this matter and have taken copious notes because of the recording restrictions. Does members of the press have carte blanche to make this kind of recording?
“When the law and evidence is not on your side, you bang on the table”
It's one thing to say that the Prosecutor pushed too far but to call her ghetto and other names is over the top. Especially when some of the people on here, most likely didn't get past the 9th grade. In addition, saying she should be disbarred is asinine. If that is the case many lawyers would have been disbarred black, white or otherwise. SMH
He wont be assistant much longer.
When you say "but" it basically means now forget everything I just said. People are sad.
The judge got tired of her pulling 'the card'.
She thought by prosecuting the former Detroit Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick and Christine Beatty would give her popularity. She was wrong. SMH. She was disrespectful during that trial.
What a circus of BS.
The prosecutor dont know the game
Yep :-) she was trying and she was standing up for herself she probably don't have a job no more
Yikes. Embarrassing.
Oh boo hoo I am not getting my own way here.
The prosecutor seem to be so angry how can she defend her client being so angry she keep that up she end up losing her license
A member of that "unity"... Nobody caught THAT!!??
You throw a bit into an apology, the apology means nothing.
Anyone that would wear a hair-do like that in court needs to be charged with contempt. Just because.
Embarrassing...smh