A LIGHT 3-Day Backpacking Loadout
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Do you understand what a loadout is? Your gun weights half that 20lbs and you don't seem to be counting a bunch of stuff like your sleeping bag... god you are bad at this.
@@thomgizziz He said he wasn't counting firearm or chest rig weight, only the 72 hour gear in his pack. He also stuffed the sleeping bag (what his stuff was laid out on) into the bag.
This kind of content is absolutely relevant for campers/hunters and militia types. Lt. Col. Nutn Fancy always says "Lighten Everything"
do people still actually believe that guy is a veteran or former cop? SMDH
As a backpacker I can tell you most of this shit you don’t need. It’s a joke.
@@DocOnHoliday86I mean, he really was a pilot. There are plenty of public records of Lt. Col Hewitt available. Richard I think. His father shows up most of the time on first google though.
@@brendonaldson8056Back packing is a sport. Or hobby. You can quit and go home.
@@DocOnHoliday86He's a retired Lt. Col and pilot. What exactly is your background that makes you such an expert? Have you even served?
As I have gotten older, when by myself Elk hunting or other hunting I have forced myself to not hunt any further than I’m willing to pack the game out. The more people the further you can go. Great video, and great advise!
African Proverb: 🐘
If you want to go fast, Go Alone
If you want to go far, Go with a Group.
bro as someone whos been trying to do a merge of these two styles for awhile, you've knocked it out of the park. It's weird carrying a pack that weighs 2+kg empty while on the other hand also decanting my soap into a 15ml dropper bottles but it's what makes me happy. Keep it up!
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Have you looked at dissolvable waterway safe soap sheets? They weigh practically nothing. A box of like a hundred sheets, which you won't need all at once, is only like 2 or 3oz.
Great blending of civilian and surplus gear. Thanks for the breakdown Randall!
I love how you mention 25 lbs is ultralight for a grunt. When I got back into backpacking after my ETS, I started following the UL forums. I remember in one of my first threads someone said “ultralight” and I replied something along the lines of they must mean around 35 pounds then, right? I could almost hear them falling out of their chair in their reply.
I’m more on the UL side of things than the grunt side now days and while I can see some replacements to your kit that would still be tactical but drop a little more weight, you’ve got a solid system here. I agree with your use of a hammock and tarp: much more comfortable and flexible than a tent.
Thanks for another great video merging tactical/Hunting with the backpacking communities.
Thanks. I have some UL stuff that would easily take this kit to under 10 lbs minus consumables, but then it definitely wouldn't be grunt-proof.
I never see anyone go on about the water storage bag that comes in the mre. You are missing out if you do not carry 1-2.
It will measure water. You can store and carry extra water. It fits in the heater.
But to me, I carry it to irrigate wounds. 2 salt packs "mre" in the bag. Hot water in the bag. Pin hole the bottom of it and you have an anti bacterial/microbieal jet to irrigate a wound. Or dip the sawyer reverse cleaning serenge into a mixture of salt/iodine/water for sterrile irrigation.
Just a thought.
As an old 12B, I am quite happy not to be carrying 70+ lbs rucks anymore and consider anything under 35 lbs to be lightweight. But I love the outdoors, so I am in much the same place as you are - trying to find a balance between grunt durability while taking advantage of the lighter modern hiking gear to reduce my load. Everyone needs to find their own load out that they are happy with, but I see way too many people being a little too faithful to the old school gear and burdening themselves with dead weight and extra bulk when there are so many alternatives. The colder months require a bit more weight, of course, but I am incredibly pleased that I can maintain all my capabilities and still get a summer weight below 25 lbs. I'm sure the ultralight crowd would throw a fit at that weight, but they aren't going off trail and through the brush. For your pack, if you want more rigidity instead of stepping on it, Savotta does make a lightweight frame for that pack, it's only like half a pound. I dig that blackout tarp though, I might have to try to get one.
26lbs is pretty good in my book! I'm a sort of light weight backpacker but that's exactly the same as my total weight (inc. water and food. I don't get the point of not weighing consumables). I love your mentality and the idea of bringing together Backpackers and Grunts. There's a hell of a lot we can learn from each other!
The point of not counting your consumables toward your base weight is because presumably the weight of your consumables changes with each trip. Doing so allows you to separate the weight of your gear from the weight of your food and water, in order to really hone in on where you can/need to shave weight. I hope this helps.
@brendanmohan9831 yes indeed, and it allows you to compare to others, but the constant focus on only sharing base weights is misleading. You need to put just as much effort into refining your consumables.
I live between 2 rivers so our loads are very similar only I do pack a stove and cook kit and a little more gear leaning toward trapping and fishing.
No hiking trails in my state but one thing I have noticed is when you stay on a cattle trail they will always lead you to water. Just a FYI if your in cattle country 😉
Perfect timing... I was just repacking all my gear. I have separate backpacks pre-packed for 1. spring/summer, 2. fall, and 3. winter. That way I've got pack and gear dedicated to a specific season and don't have to repack every time the weather changes. Just refill with expendables. I learned a lot from Jarheads, and from ultralighters: trying to keep my spring/summer pack under 20 lbs is a challenge.
Excellent. My “ultralight” Gucci backpacking load out for 3 days, including food and 4L water as you have here, would be around 20#. Depending on climate, I may be carrying as little as 2L (or less), which drops me to 16#. The difference between this load out and the UL is durability - my UL tarp, pad, and quilt will weigh much less, but they have to be handled more carefully. Not exponentially - I don’t baby them, and I haven’t broken them, but if I’m focused on another mission, not just hiking and sustainment, I may want something more bombproof. It’s all a choice, no right or wrong here.
As a very young Grunt in the Aussie Army 40 years ago, I was taught "only the essentials" and at that stage we were training for Jungle Ops, so it was a Mossie net, a summer lightweight sleeping bag outer (silk), bombs and water. I always added a Howard Green Jumper to pack, spare socks and sometimes a dry set of JG's (Jungle Greens).
Over the years, I have learnt to tailor my loads for my situation and now my EDC and "go Bag" is whatever is in my pockets.
Your videos are always full of good common sense and not selling bullshit or living in a fantasy land. Great job.
Sic video man. Bad azz combining grunt gear and principles with ultra light backpacking principles and gear. Best of everything.🇺🇸👍🏽🤘🏽
Good video, ounces = pounds and pounds = pain. My packs weigh between 15 to 25 pounds plus or minus. Knowledge = less pounds.
Glad your sharing this content. If you can lighten your load, you can increase your capabilities!
I got a lot of hate for this concept over the years, lol
Good to see PA following. Seeing another channel I follow, follow here makes me feel good about my life choices.
I laugh when my fellow Vets brag about carrying heavier load outs. It doesn’t make you look hardcore it makes you look like you didn’t do your research. I also don’t care how ‘hardcore’ you are, you’ll never be able to hike as much as an UL’er. Sure, the first day you could probably hit 20-miles, maybe even 25, but you won’t be doing back-to-back-to-back 20-30-milers for weeks or months at a time.
Awesome kit. I would consider a metal container to have the option to boil water.
Large heavy duty construction garbage bags two or three minimum, if not 4!, they work great for waterproofing your gear for floating or browse bed, bag cover and body cover. I actually made rain gear in a freak snow storm on a 2 week trip. I always carry a firearm and I always carried extra ammo in case I wanted to shoot while I'm out in the woods. Those garbage bags though they don't weigh anything and could save your life I had to I use them and it probably did save mine or at least kept it from being a real emergency.
12:45 not gonna lie, I pulled up my ADS-B tracker to see what was flying overhead only to then realize it was your video xD
Thank you for a down and dirty what to bring and why!. Seeing how others pack their kit really helps all of us learn better ways to get along in the outdoors. Just because you have done this a certain way doesn't mean you can't learn a better way or just a new way to do something. Thanks again, enjoy and learn from you videos.
I'm a backpacker, not into hunting or anything, and I think it's super awesome to see someone with a military background do a compromise between lightweight backpacking and rugged military durability. I do want to point out that even in fire ban areas you are allowed to use a stove. What you can't use is fire or a stove that has no on/off switch like an alcohol or esbit stove, but you can still use canister stoves. I don't believe I've ever eaten an MRE but they seem ideal for if stealth is top priority since you generate no light or noise with them. For areas where fires are allowed and I'm trying to move light but not necessarily with all haste, I quite like my firebox nano. Even the stainless steel version comes in around 6 oz. Very pleasant when you want the fire experience without a full sized campfire. Good video man!
Cool thanks
Thanks, for putting this out. An awesome value for those with eyes and ears to see it. I will do my best to take good notes.
U a true gun man ,straight to the point. Backpackers get up from u super light helinox chair n pay attention !
Good on you for thinking outside of the box. And working it out. It may not fit every action, but gets people thinking.
People must realize that combat and backpacking are not even close...Carry on G.P!
Full on weight is considered. But ul'ers will map out water and resupply before they start. Will also mail drop packages to resupply. As to not carry..
Cold soak, yup! Eat it right out of the ziplock bag, may not need a utensil. And nothing to wash!
My base wt for 3 season, 30 deg F for a low. Maybe upper 20s is about 10 lbs. Full on wt for three days is about 18 lbs. 9 days 25-30 lbs.
When you get into town and the waiter asks what will you have ,Sir? Just reply, the left side of the menu!!
Yep, my 3 season pack weight agrees with you, even with my preference for synthetic sleeping and clothing insulation-too wet around here in spring and autumn.
From an old backpacker -- very good specific review and philosophical summary! That 30L pack is very stout . . . but I gravitate to a vest-style harness pack in addition to a large, say 5 or 10L, lumbar pack for heavier items and water. Never did like the ergonomics of backpack hip straps, but you gotta get some weight off your back -- otherwise fatigue and safety risks are a sure bet.
It would be hard to have a plate carrier/ ammo on a chest rig if you had the vest style as storage. Unless I’m thinking of the wrong type of vest
I enjoy your testing and all other videos. The area in which you live is beautiful. Thanks for all you do and keep on doing it. Semper Fi, brother!
I live less than 10 miles from the Great Smoky Mountains National Park, I grew up in the Appalachian backcountry. My 3-Season backcountry kit is an effective mix of tactical/hiking gear. I use the same sleeping system, Can't beat a hammock-tarp combo. I add in a small piece of Tyvek as a ground cloth. My cooking system is an MSR Whisperlite and 2 qt. titanium cook pot. I carry it all in a suspender system that includes, a rump pack,2 drop leg pouches, and a 2.5 qt hydration carrier, all of it made by Condor Tactical. I have described my backcountry philosophy like this, I ruck like a soldier, I eat like a backpacker and I sleep like a baby.🤘😂
This is the kind of packing I'd camp with. Personally I'm more a tent guy but that's because my camping knowledge comes from an old fashioned Boy Scout troop.
Grunt/backpacker here. Great stuff always good to hear different points of view and experience to help improve load-outs. Also thought it would be hilarious if you answered the phone.
I love Rocked Pouches on my Bags, so I can put my Goretex and my Snack on the sides of the Back Pack. Also I put my Tarp and the Raincover in the front Helmet Pouch and my savotta mat underneath the Backpack. If I pack like that, I have everything that can get wet outside the mayn Pack and I can get it quickly with out opening the main compartment. I really like that because if I am on the move I have everything outside on my Pack that I could need wile moving. Only in camp I open the main Pack for setteling down. I thing savotta has cool Rocked Pouches , I would get some.
Thank you for the Video, it was really cool.
Ounces equals pounds, and pounds equals pain. I learned this (the hard way) in Boy Scouts while they still produced rugged men (in the 80's), honed it in ROTC, and went from there. I live on the edge of federal wilderness land, so lots of opportunities for this old war dog to stay fit.
Ah the 80's scouts when we carried 20kgs for 3 days to get to our 4 day base camp (and built our bivouac out of what we found in the forest), good times!
Works for me…Have fun stay safe.
Really like your spin on bushcraft meets backpacking. I find myself being in both camps as well.
This is great, dude! Love that this will be something both BP and Grunts can enjoy and learn from.
Thanks man
So many Knife Hands! Great breakdown on how to pack the bag for us Non-Grunts! I'm gonna repack my bag now!
I'm gonna push back on having LOTS of socks. With my current career, my feet are the most important thing, and keeping my feet healthy will keep me moving at optimum levels!
Thank you sir! 💪🇺🇲
Just get high quality Merino wool.socks. I've spent 5 days in the woods with 2 pairs. My feet were fine, and barely even stunk at the end of the trip. If i expect to cross streams, I'll bring one extra
@@stevescuba1978Darn Tough.
Thank you for this video. Great information and guidance!
Socks? IMHO, socks are gold on the trail. One should always have at least one extra pair.
I always carry a folding saw. It can do almost everything an axe can do, and a lot of what a large knife can do. I also carry a 30-minute road flare. If you absolutely NEED a fire, the 30-minute road flare virtually guarantees success, even when your hands are numb and you are soaking wet and shivering because you fell through the ice.
You need to get your clothes off and get a fire started ASAP. Enter the road flare.
Its seems so easy when you got the experience to go with the skills you are trying to show. Stay safe from newfoundland and labrador Canada
I’ve tried the hammocks. I own several with my favorite being an authentic NSN’d Vietnam Era Jungle Hammock. It’s a really cool artifact. Back in the 1960’s it was lightweight super high speed nylon hammock, netting, and rain fly all built into an infantryman’s little bundle. In a swamp or jungle maybe. It’s good kit. But there’s just too many circumstances where you aren’t sleeping in an area conducive to set them up. It’s dead weight most of the time for me personally because it’s not possible to be comfortable in one. Sleep is 100% king so if the hammock helps… it’s worth it. I’m glad to see the sleeping bag. Mors Kohanski had it right. Anything in the kit should be held up to the question? How does this help me to get a goods night sleep? Backpacking or fighting ANTIFA domestic terrorists… multi day means sleep rest cycles. We humans don’t function without sleep. Not well at least. You’ll do much much better without food for 100 hours than good REM sleep (of preferably over 4 hours in duration/24 hours)
Agree, hammocks don't work for me. Doesn't matter how I set it up, kills my back. Big Agnes Zoom pad, a zenbivy quilt, and a lightweight tent for me. It's worth the extra few lbs to get good sleep and not ache when you get up.
Great concept video, To a degree what patriot Ark is trying to implement.
Minuteman/Prepper loud outs with a touch of hiking.
I think it's awesome trying to incorporate the grunt world into the hiking world, Keep it rolling.
Informative as usual, one of my favorite channels now.😎
great video like always. listen more than watch, here at work, and at 11:08 man chuck that thing!!! so loud wholly cow no!!
I was packing in stuff saying just the same things up to about a year and a half ago. There's a choice to go totally minimal or to go lightweight with everything for all seasons. The experiences have gotten me to understand the materials the gear is made of and how things fit into different circumstances and what can be used multipurpose. If things go bad, I have everything and being ultralight, less calories are required for faster speeds. I use an all terrain bicycle to get around and that plus gear and food is 55 lbs. With it, 50-115 miles per day of hike and bike is common and I'd prefer it to the 20-30 average miles it seems hikers are doing. I keep half of the weight in a MYOG backpack so that the bike can go over the shoulders when needed. To each their own!
Jolly good show !! I have a GI Joe purse too. In fact I have three !! thanks
Hello 👋 my outdoors friend, thank you for sharing this informative video. You are set for just about any emergency. Keep up your great work and stay safe out there. 🤗 🖐
POG trick: Those MRE beverage pouches (once empty) can be filled with the hot water from your FRH after you heat up your entree. The makeshift hot water bottle can be used to warm up your body, speed up drying damp clothing, or just preheat your sleep system on a chilly night.
A very realistic and practical load out. My first thought process when rucking is to go with functionality and practicality of my gear. If there is a lightweight alternative that covers those two aspects then I have the option with going that route.
Very good video. Thank you for sharing your hard earned wisdom.
I met a guy who does the AT. He suggests an 8x10 tarp and an inner bug net with floor. Pretty light and really versatile.
Can confirm
Thru-hiker here. Save yourself headaches and time and simply get yourself a one-trekking pole tent. They are just as light if not lighter and are much faster to pitch.
Thanks man! Already have that. In icon. Henry Shires Tarp Tent. I have everything from the clothes on my back to expedition gear! UL to UH !!
I got my pack weight down to 35 pounds for 2 days. Love the video!
Backpacker here, just found this channel 👍💪
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Nice pack! Light load. The 30 - 40 liters range seems to be the industry standard for 3-day packs. In the scope of 'light packing' I'm betting you went without a few things you prefer but your kit would work just fine. You have some quality items there! Additionally I would need at least a canteen cup or stainless container, a Leatherman (you could carry on body), hand held flashlight and a shovel (trowel) - likely adds 5 - 7 lbs. but they're a 'always go' with me. I get you were going 'minimum' but I usually carry 3/4 gal. of water per day - desert around here. Like your 'dromedary bag' as way of carrying that extra water - 8lbs. a gal.. I prefer a small fire for the usual reasons but it seems the 'NO FIRE season' is getting longer and longer here in the Southwest. Thanks Randall - we asked and you answered! 👍
Well done Randall. One critique, I would have my rain jacket near easy access. I once filled most of my pack with long-grained rice, lentils, whole oats and dried soups. I made it 30 days on the trail without resupply, No, I was not a LRRP. My transition from grunt to back packer.
I gotta go to bed but I gave it a like already. I'll finish this in the AM. Love this channel and, dude, you rock. See ya next time.
Great information as always. Thanks
Good pack loadout Randall
I do follow some of the civilian hiking channels, but completely agree with you that sometimes they take weight savings too far.
Python Straps are great hammock straps. They are slightly reflective so if need be, you can just dust them with spraypaint. Super durable and relatively affordable. With carabiners on the hammock its idiot proof to put up
Yeah…20-30 lbs would be my civilian limit.🤠
One of my necessary items is a small bottle with Tinactin powder for the feet and the crotch. Had some pretty severe crotch rot in basic and swore, never again. It is in all of my kits. Another great piece of kit is my Hill People Gear cheast rig. Absolutely love it. From one grunt to another, great video brother.
Its so awesome that a fellow Mississippian putting this content out. I'm a fellow soldier but I was a crew chief /flight engineer. I have very limited experience rucking. Thanks for your videos.
South Alabama here. Thank you for your service!
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Great video, Randall!
One of the best I’ve seen. Phenomenal.
I've been on this question for awhile. I really hope it's as good as I think it will be.
Thanks for sharing, I got my bag down to 30lbs...and working on my sleep system now
Hi, I would never have thought to see Solognac product in a US based made video ! simple, straight and efficient product not to expensive.
Very good advices on this chanel, more subscribers need to view your video! much appreciated. Carry on!
I was surprised how warm the patrol bag is with just a cheap fleece liner .
Grams, equal ounces, ounces, equals pounds, pounds, equals, pain. Travel light move fast. And remember when on rough Terrain, watch your footing.
Great recommendations for motorcycle back country tote campin. Thanks for all the knowledge shares.
Great video, thank you!
Nice video, I even took notes. I especially liked the backpack.
Very high quality content, great work. 🙏🏻
Really good video! I liked how you use the total weight of your pack vs base weight because you’re gonna be carrying water and food which will add at least five pounds to your load.
I noticed that your military training is ingrained because even though you were talking and not being overly stealthy you looked over your right shoulder before you left the woods and stepped into the field. Checking your six.
When we used bashers we would put bungees on all four corners, close one end so permanently attached.
Made it easier to deploy and easier to bug out not searching for bungees,I know it's civvy but old squaddie tips,great video mate,keep them coming 👍.
Those Wild Thing Booties are THE BOMB. The whole Gen 7 Layer whatever ECWCS this and that “puffy suit” or USMC Happy suit… Where was that type of insulation when I was serving? Those booties also serve a secondary purpose of allowing you “somewhat decent” footwear for when you’re trying to air or dry out your primary footwear. The bottoms have multiple layers of cordura fabric. And can easily be “patched up” or made into fully functioning emergency footwear with some gorilla tape and cloth and cord.
Thank you Brother.
I used a MOLLE 2 large ruck + the assault pack to commute via bus on a trucking job. I checked the whole thing. Clothes, a stove, 2 poncho liners, a 1 qt canteen & cup and several flip maps,etc came to 38 pounds.
You seem to have it all covered. A couple of good knives would be positive additions (neck, boot, pocket, belt, etc.) but that is worked out by the personal preference of the one carrying the pack. Nicely done, sir. I'm a new subscriber. Thank you for this.
I have a hi tec nova 55+10 amazing backpack IV had for 15 years had to do one minor repair in the field because of rodents in the camp.
I recently got a military bag US army issue Molle II rucksack I believe is what it is.
Its from my close friend at a military BBQ I was invited too, I didn't serve but have many friends and family who did and it looks like a great long trip backpacking bag.
After a few days, 30 Lbs seems to weigh 80 Lbs after awhile it is 80Lbs.
That's with Water. 2 Gallons, relaying gear , make lighter weight.
Surplus is the best.
Belt Pouch Survival Kit.
Canteen and Belt.
Hobo Cooking Kit. For Coffee.
Food.
First Aid Kit.
Binoculars.
Harmonica .
Tarp.
Water weighs 2.2 pounds per liter.
“A pint’s a pound the world around”
Hell yeah I have been replacing with light weight backpacking. Bag sleep pad and sleeping saved pounds
I asked an infantry friend, what does he do with his food when he's on patrol / out on an exercise. He said he sleeps with it. He has a gun and animals never have bothered them. So I've well mostly just slept with my food. There are mountain lions here, bears, etc. and I've yet to have a problem. I use bare boxes when they're available otherwise. But in middle of remote mountains here, (BLM, Forest Service, land etc.) we don't have that sort of thing. Additionally, per light weight stuff. I have prioritized durability over weight. A few years back when I discovered light weight stuff, I bought a light weight tent. Went up in the mountains and the tent ripped up in a wind storm. In that moment I discovered the heaviest weight gear you can have is the gear that cannot use because it broke on you.
or elevate your food sack by hoisting it up using some lines, learned that in scouts.
As a hiker. I try to keep my base weight below 15lbs. Bet a nice pack like Osprey will help get your pack weight even lower. Anything over 25lbs and my knees die after 10+ miles in the mountains. Thanks for the video!
Great video 💯👍
Like a brotha from anotha montha......great minds think a like.
I did learn something. Thank you for the video.
I love DD hammocks, Im super impressed with their products. I also am really liking my Haven Hammock, if you havent checked it out be sure to look em up specially for spring and summer camping as their bug net works well for keeping the bugs out. I will say I use to be into the whole ultra light backpacking scenario where every gram did matter but honestly Ive gotten out of it and go for more creature comforts and long term products, my normal pack weight is 35 pounds not including food and water, but Im also carrying a small cast iron skillet and depending on when and how I plan on camping I may be bringing my Polish Lavuu and my sourced out MSS, gotten multiple items to make my own.
awesome video thank you
Another great video brother 💯
The Amok hammock Brother Is the end all be all of comfort in the backwoods it’s literally better than my multi thousand dollar mattress at home I love it so much I packed the extra weight you can lay flat on your side. Whatever you want made in Norway it’s the best sleep system ever devised.
You're having tooo much fun!
Outstanding video
Thanks brother..
Tell them like it is. Davy Crocket was the ultimate champion backpacker. TN to TX for the Alimo along the Nacogdoches trail. Now that's a hike.
Nice. I have the 10L Dromedary bag and its great. I can go get water and filter it, enough for two days at camp. I bring a SOL bivy sac for the hammock to cut the wind.
Got the 10l too
I usually aim for 30-35 lbs. In winter time it can get up to 40-50 lbs. I don't mind the weight plus I carry a few non essential comfort items just so when I get to camp I'm not bored and I'm comfy.
Good stuff! 👍
great vid thanks!
Nice enough pack. I got a Berghause 45 cheaper got an internal frame comes with 2 x 10lt zip on side pouches no lower pouches like Randals. Another good option are the Karrimore SF range. Im biased i like those 10 to 15lt zip on side pouches.
Before the Australian Army got Alice packs we'd pick up a IRR short or longback British Bergen backpack. Thats where i fell in love with these zip on pouches. Id use extras still do as packing cubes. Its great prepacked gear you know what configurations you need grab 2 zip em on throw a sleep bag in a pouch or 2 fill ine with food off you go job done. Perfect for damn got a job cancellation awesome grab the bergen packed in 5 and off for a 2 or 3 day hike camp
😢thanks so much your cisterns simple but practical
this was a great video