DOES A TALLER SNOWBLOWER CHUTE THROW SNOW BETTER THAN A SMALLER ONE?
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DOES A TALLER SNOWBLOWER CHUTE THROW SNOW BETTER THAN A SMALLER ONE? Not only do I want to ADD MORE THROWING DISTANCE to this old snowblower but I also want to ARC THE SNOW HIGHER and have BETTER CONTROL of where I send it. I recruited the help of a Garage Gear Subscriber to give me a hand! He sent me 2 taller chutes to try out. Watch and see how I install them and test them to see if a TALLER CHUTE is really BETTER! This is the next step in my plan to RE-POWER this old Ariens into a SNOW THROWING TANK. This looks to be one of my funnest projects yet! LIKE & SUBSCRIBE!!!
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We put really long chutes on all our snowblowers here in Midland Ontario, so the next time it's snowing in Buffalo that's actually snow from Midland that we've shot up into the jet stream... Sorry about that 🌬❄⛄
Hahahaha I knew it lol!!! Thanks for watching my friend!
You must live in the southtowns. It was so cool traveling from buffalo south when a lake effect storm was busy causing havoc, then you see this massive dark wall of clouds, then you're in it. snowmageddin. A almost car stopping storm. That's so cool
Hey Pete I’m in Lancaster. Little east of the city!
I also wanted to thank you for giving me the motivation to tackle my grandfather's Ariens snowblower (exactly like the mint one you bought for a $100 bucks). Grandfather, Father and I've been using it every season and even tho I was given that Husqvarna, I can't let go of my 70 yr old machine. Bought a 19 inch chute last week & I'm going to put an impeller kit on it, thanks to your video. I'm grabbing a new engine at Harbor F, this wknd. On sale for a $100. Can't beat that price. My father loved that Ariens, he'd be very proud watching a 70 yr old machine spank the newer machines...
Thanks again! 👍🏼
John M
Hey your welcome John! I’m sure your father would be proud. I maybe have $250 into that snowblower and it’s better than anything of comparable size on the market now. You’ll really like those predator engines. No drama and if you adjust the throttle up to about 4100 rpm it will really send it. Nothing beats a classic! 👍
@@GarageGear Can't wait, really enjoy these projects. If I can, I'll send some pics.
From South Buffalo. I have an older model Ariens snowblower and I found it worked better than my old Toro. I replaced the front skids and mounted new skids with wheels. I think I got them from Home Depot about 4 years ago. I saved the original shids just in case if the wheels broke but they're still working. Also a shield behind the top plastic black cover to help prevent snow from going in by the belts. I used a peices of aluminum siding bent to fit and its working. I also noticed that using both wheels as traction was a bit more difficult to turn the snowblower so I leave it with only one wheel for the traction with the pin on the main axle.
Thanks for sharing ed! These old ariens are beasts!
Thanks, i was about to push my 1970 Ariens blower out to the curb with a free sign on it until I found your videos...........new engine and impeller kit for next winter
You’ll be blown away by the difference! Thanks for watching!
After watching your switch to a longer/higher chute, I replaced mine and increased the throw by 3'. Thank You! Great sit!
Awesome Norman! Thanks for watching!
The general shape and size of the chute is a factor here too I think. I lined my old rectangular short chute for my craftsman with puck board, which rounded the sides and made it a smoother transition like alot of newer blowers have. Waiting for some snow to try it out!
Awesome idea with the puck board Ruzz! Ill have to check that out! let me know how it works out for you! Thanks for watching!
Been watching your videos and learned a hell of a lot. After searching and searching I got lucky and Found a 1 owner Ariens 24” 7hp 1971 . Chute is on the way from your recommendation . What a machine this thing is. Enough metal to make a couple in todays machines. Thanks for sharing your knowledge .
Awesome Todd! That is terrific that you found a one owner 1971 blower! Very cool! I wonder if these old blowers are going to be difficult to find next year because people are learning how well built they are. Eric is the MAN! Definitely the right guy to talk to! How’s the engine on yours? Was it tired like mine?
Just spray the chute and blower and rotors with ceramic car spray and I added heavy rubber extensions on the rotor blades that slightly rub the wall. This avoids rock jambs and throws the snow twice the distance and the wet snow will not stick in the front rotor.
Thanks for sharing robo
I am using an old 55 gallon barrel for the steel to make my chute longer. The metal in the one I'm using is actually thicker than most 55 gallon barrels and it's actually a little thicker than my blower chute, so it will work well for this mod. It's kind tricky to bend but it will hold up quite well. So now with impeller rubbers installed and a longer chute I should be able to blow the snow out of my yard! I'm thinking about swapping the stock pulley on the engine to a larger diameter for the blower to blow it even farther, but that may have to come after a larger motor swap. We'll see.
All awesome upgrades here David! That snowblower is going to be a monster! Thanks for sharing!
The tall shoot through the snow an impressive distance that snow thrower is a beast.👍
That snowblower is freakin animal now! Nothing stops it! Thanks for watching Backwoods!
When I first got my 1966 Ariens snowblower and got it running it plugged up easily and blew powder snow about 8 feet from the machine and wet snow about 2 feet. I thought this snowblower needs help. used conveyor belt on all four paddles on the fan that made a huge improvement. Distance now about 25 feet wet or dry snow huge improvement. Modified the short chute more straight up so the snow speed doesn’t slow down as much. Distance now is about 35+feet. i’m gonna have to contact that guy and see if I can get a newer chute off at 80s like in your video. Thanks for the info. I’ll have to contact him. I also have a Honda snowblower with tracks. I let my son have it because I like my old Ariens better. it’s actually kind of cool blowing snow with an old antique blower that now 57 years old. Another thing I like about the Ariens as the shoot turns about 200° from stop to stop allowing you to blow the snow behind you if you want.
It’s amazing what a few add ons can do for those machines. Thanks for sharing dc!
Bout that time of year for more vintage Ariens blower videos. Time to install an electric chute control, maybe some lights, upgraded tires? Can't wait to see what you do.
Hey tea bag! I did put some newer tires on the snowblower last season but considering doing a full paint job on it in the upcoming off season. Stay tuned
So I modified one of those stubbys, tipped it back alittle so it wasn't so offset and that helped. I think made a scutom 12 or 18" deflector that I put on top out of some sheet metal which improved it drastically. I did end up on the different chute path.
Very creative Josh! Thanks for sharing! 👍
I really love my ariens snowblower (24 SHO Platinum). It handles all types of snow with ease. I also put snowblower skids on it and that makes a difference. For smaller walks we use the single stage Honda.
Those skids are the way to go! Thanks for sharing bug!
I completely agree with the taller chute findings. My Troy-Bilt Storm 2620 with its long chute has no issues throwing heavy snow more than 35 feet and it has an ABS chute with no impeller augment (yet - parts on order). It is as long as the long one you added to yours. Sometimes it throws it too far. LOL
Hahah right? Definitely too far! Buddy of mine did the same thing and took out his neighbor’s window recently lol! Thanks for watching csi!
I'm an old bastard and never in my life did I think that a "snowblower chute specialist" even existed. Next up: Heated grip Swami.
He may be out there lol! Thanks for watching another Frank!
Not surprised, but glad to see this comparison. Thanks for testing this.
Got me wanting to try restoring an old Ariens if my toro power max ever starts fading.
No problem my friend! This has been a fun project so far! Do it! You won’t regret it! Thanks for watching sgttoastie!
Use that on your sidewalk and you’ll cross the street and fill the neighbors yard easily!!!
Well done😂I just now noticed the eraser board!👍🏻👍🏻
Hahaha awesome js! Next year I’ll set this snowblower on autopilot and use my other one at the same time. Both pointing at the neighbors lol!
Awesome 👍. You're the only person I've seen do a direct chute comparison. I'm not surprised by the results at all.
Hey Smallblock, I had a feeling the larger chutes would dominate. Lots of people on here were saying “bigger chute”! They were right! I recently threw some powdery snow with the taller chute and it threw that well too! Thanks for watching another my friend!
The transition from the impeller discharge is poor on some machines. The impeller impulse is delayed several degrees throwing the snow across the chute opening rather than up the chute. If distance is not a concern then it is not an issue. The short Ariens chutes may not have performed well because of transition. The chute transition was poor because the chute was sort of added on rather than designed into the unit. The blower is essentially a centrifugal pump and the discharge {volute} must be perfect to prevent turbulence.
Also the results for one type of snow may differ from another. Ice crystals would be sort of a self-cleaning and self lubricating element in some snow.
The early snowblowers were the product of inventor/ innovators. This resulted in many of the components being overbuilt and some parts under built (bushings). As some of the companies grew they employed engineers which has led to good things like design improvement and bad thing like adequate or inexpensive products. Many like myself are forced by mother nature and geography and plowing routes to purchase the more expensive professional machines. I am in the Lake Effect zone at the east end of Lake Ontario. My major problem is not the amount of snow but the fact that the plow comes up my side of the road first which means I get 2/3 of the snow. I have to clear my driveway and the crosswalks for the kids to get to the school down the street. Most of the time I can clear the sidewalks and upper driveway with my Wovel [wheeled shovel] Even with the professional machine clearing the plow berms is a challenge. When I was a kid I had to shovel with a rusted coal shovel to clear get my dad out in time for work. All before going to school where I often had to wade through snow over my knees. No snow days back then. But that is life in the Lake Effect zones.
Since I mentioned bushings. What is called an auger on a snowblower is actually a harvester as well. While bushings can be fine for most slow speed augers the forces in the snowblower demand a very robust bushing or a bearing. As we have seen with the bushings of old - there is a directional component of weight and torque that has elongated many a bushing. What you need for bearings/bushings is dependent upon how much property you have to cover and how much snow you get.
On some machines I have questioned the alloy of the bushings compared with the quality of the metal in the shaft. We used to say that some of the machines were made out of recycled beer cans because of the poor quality.
Also - the blade tip angle on the impeller is critical and must be matched to the machine's transition to the chute. It is like the ignition timing - the impulse from the impeller must come at exactly the right time.
@@edwintaber6465 wow this is really in depth! Thanks for sharing Edwin!
Most will throw snow good enough..
I have noticed that chutes that are straight and tall before curving does the best.
My friend has a blower that chute curve right away, he always has tall banks he can't throw over.
I come over with my tall chute blower to chew his banks and throw them back! 😁👌
Never buy a early curve blower, the manufacturer doesn't care about their product. 🤷♂️
Thanks for sharing Barry!
Eric Evans is a HERO. Thanks J. B
He’s an awesome guy! Thanks for watching!
Does Eric Evans have an email address or does anyone have a link to his Facebook page? I need a chute lol😂
@@jkwhiting his contact info is in the description. Thanks for watching!
Sick!!
Well, I guess we now know what the ladies have known all along: The longer, the better…. 😂🤣😜
I see you have added ArmorSkids to it as well, JB. Nice!
Haha we proved it… size matters lol! Yep the armor skids are bolted on and work great. Got them on both my blowers now. They take bumps like a champ and smooth out the ride. I’ll probably end up doing a video on those sometime next season! What’s happening in your garage this week?
Neighbors must think your crazy! However good video on this topic. One that I never seen covered before. Always great info done in a simple direct manner. Cheers!
The neighbors do think I’m nuts but always ask what I’m up to! I tell them to watch the channel and they’ll find out! Thanks for the positive feedback Ed! I appreciate it! 👍 cheers!
Nice comparison video! 👍
This was a fun project to do a comparison on. That toro chute surprised me! 👍 amazing what a difference both made!
The stubby shoot is a much more aggressive downward angle
Oh yeah! The tall chute really gets it up and out of there! Thanks for watching sky!
A plastic liner inside the metal chute i.e. Krazy-carpet really helps with slushy snow in my case.
Good idea! Thanks for sharing Andre!
@@GarageGear some Ariens have a larger fan too.
I doubled the size of the engine pulley that spins the auger and added a blade impeller kit - you wouldn’t believe how far it throws now.
That must be a beast!
"better" covers a lot of things, however, I would still say, "yes".
More control cannot even be argued. For distance, there will be an optimal, but I think it would have to get _very_ long before you lose distance.
I know a guy with a modern Ariens, and he added a nearly 2' extension to the deflector. He probably has nearly 6' of chute length now. He swears by it last I heard.
Where arguments can get more difficult are features like Honda's throat collar which will increase control, but also increase plugging with wet snow.
Honda and Yamaha are the two best walk behind consumer grade snowblowers you can get, just way out of my budget.
Even at that, tho, there are Honda owners who will torch that collar out because they don't like it. Some things are just trade offs.
For bonus points, get into multi staged deflectors(which Honda and Yamaha also have, and I think Toro may have done on a newer model). ;)
Great information here! Thanks for sharing I337! 👍
I have a sno-tek 24 by arians and its been a stout lil machine. Its got a tall shoot and really sends the snow a ways
I’ve seen those blowers before! They have a good design for their size! Thanks for watching Chris!
@@GarageGear decent for my needs, had it for some years now but may move up to something bigger. Thank you for your videos! They are immensely helpful and i actually take care of my thrower now lol. Have a good 1
@@aceburgers8801 ROCK ON buddy! Plenty more to come!
I have an early 80s Bolens MTD snowblower. It has 10hp, and a stubby chute. Would upgrading to a taller chute make much difference? Which height should I aim for?
Hey cb! Upgrading the chute makes a difference. The taller the better my friend.
I have a 20 + year old 7hp Simplicity 2 stage. Question, the shoot have a hand guard flips open when snow is blowing. Will removing this help in blowing further and clogging? Thanks!!
It may But I’d have to see it in person!
Damn. Looks like I need a taller chute. I have a craftsman with an 8HP/27" cut. You think he'd have a chute I could use?
Try reaching out to him. Contact info is in the description! Good luck!
Throws it like my Honda snowblower
Sends it back to the sky! 👍👍
Any price range on what the chutes run? Wondering if I should do the impeller mod first before trying this route.
I would definitely do the impeller mod first. The new chute would probably run less than $100.
Powerhouse K back with another banger💪🏽
You know it! 👍
So he must had cut the base off an old Ariens chute too and welded it to the 2000's Ariens chute too? I don't think they made the chute you have with that base if I am not mistaken.
That’s exactly what he did Paul! Thanks for watching!
Can you show us the three side by side at the gear end looking up the chutes?
Good idea but I don’t have the footage anymore and would have to make it a separate video at this point. Thanks for watching Edwin!
wow... that's some fugly welds at 2:50 😳
They get the job done though!🤷♂️
Wow we need this channel!
Plenty more cool videos coming your way Riverunner! Stay tuned!
@@GarageGear ....you put the real facts out there without wasting my time ! Your loaded with valuable content that’s made my life livable ! Plowing went from 35$ a plow to 75$ a plow! I’ll can do it myself now! That last storm was only a foot. 18 “ was forcast. My ariens took it away !
@@riverunner9978 glad these videos are helping you out my friend! That’s a crazy price jump! Wow!
id say holy shit love these oldies great stuff.
Can’t beat em! Thanks for watching!
JV were you trying to send the ISS some snow lol? great video !!
Haha if it’s within distance, I’m aiming for it now! Lol! Thanks for watching another Dave!
BTW....GO BILLS!!!!
GO BILLS! 👍👍
Our late 90’s 10-24 sho is a tough model to find parts for so I grabbed a front end from a 8-24 and it’s depressing how much less snow it throws! Anyone have a line on a set of augers for a 24” SHO?
You might want to try an ariens Facebook group. They could probably help you out! Thanks for watching!
What background music did you use?
Not exactly sure on the song but I do know it’s from the TH-cam music library. Play anything else and you get a copyright violation! Thanks for watching!
great info, interesting
I was an interesting test to do! Made the little chute look pretty lame. Lol! Thanks for watching another my friend!
JB do you have any interest in selling one of the other tall chutes? I'm local in buffalo I already unsuccessfully tried Eric Evans.
Hey Patrick I don’t have any more tall chutes unfortunately. I reached out to him last winter but he never got back to me. Wonder what’s up. If you can find a taller chute and weld on the gear base you’ll be all set. Any welding location should be able to help you out. Awesome your local! 👍
This would spray the snow to my neighbour's 4 doors down.
Put an impeller kit on it too and you’ll hit neighbor number five lol 😂 👍
How far did the stock chute throw?
Not exactly sure but it may say here in this video. BEFORE YOU INSTALL AN IMPELLER KIT ON A SNOWBLOWER, WATCH THIS!
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I’m thinking of making my chute taller aswell hope it helps
This will help but I think an impeller kit will get you some more added distance! Thanks for watching another glitch!
Awesome videos! Where did you get your poly skids? Who makes them?
Hey Reid! The large skids I have for this blower are from armorskids.com. You’ll have to order them from their website. They have similar ones on Amazon but they are not as thick and will not fit. They were a great investment for my last blower and can take bumps like a champ. Thanks for watching! 👍
happy holidays!!! I have an airens 520 thats not self propeled with the big rear wheels and i would like to change the rubber blades and put the augar kit on it for the wet heavy snow...been looking on amazon for the right belt and cant find..not sure of the year of the snowblower neither. Any advice??
Hey Darius! There should be a model number stick on the back/bottom. You can search that and should be able to find everything you need with that! Thanks for watching my friend!
When did you put the armorskids on?
I put them on shortly after I bought it! 👍
@@GarageGear can you do a review video? When the snow finally hits 😂
@@bc454irocz89 I’ll see what I can do
You might be able to throw snow from front yard over house into backyard.
Ha with the right angle and no wind there is a possibility! Thanks for watching Gerald!
Did anyone have a link to that guy who sells all those chutes? Thanks!
His contact info is in the description below the video. Thanks for watching!
That's what she said
Lol thanks for watching
Erie pa is my location we get snow as well
Hey Ryan! Driven through Erie many times! Pretty sure it snows in July there lol! Thanks for watching bud!
@@GarageGear that’s awesome erie is great
I had to subscribe because… well… go Bills.
Thanks for subscribing! GO BILLS!
Apparently winter caught wind of this new beast ariens and said “I’m done”.
Not a flake of snow in Buffalo since
Hahahahahaha winter has its tail between its legs now lol! Seriously, we haven’t gotten any snow since I filmed this! I just fertilized my lawn lol! Thanks for watching bud!
Thanks for making great content
@@PWbflo you got it my friend!
How does one get on the white board?
Leaving cool comments gets you up there! I’ve had a lot of people the last two months leaving some really nice comments! Stay tuned over the next few weeks! 😉
All I can say is, "DADGUMIT", I need a new chute!
Hahaha give Eric a call! He’ll help you out! Pretty shocking the change it makes lol! Thanks for watching William!
I had a question do you just really like Ariens snowblowers or are they the best brand to buy?
I like ariens a lot. I’m not a fan of MTD products. Honda and toro make great machines too. I seem to find a lot of ariens in my area. Ariens does make a great product! !👍
@@GarageGear I’ll keep that in mind for the future buying snowblowers
@@GlitchEmpireBrett if you have any questions about one just shoot me a message! 👍
@@GarageGear I found the problem my idle screw was way off and I adjusted that and now it’s going 15 or so feet I’m definitely going to put on a impeller kit I’ll keep you update on my project on instagram I send you a couple of pictures of it JB
@@GlitchEmpireBrett ROCK ON brother!
I love so many of these comments I've read tons of them.
A lot of people get it.. just because you can do something doesn't mean that it's supposed to be done..
Engineers in R&D department usually make snow blowers, and shoots based on the correct mathematical specifications that work best for that machine for longevity, pressure on the motor and everything else..
I trust the R&D departments and the engineers that know a thousand times more than us as regular people.
They would make us look silly with our knowledge.
But did they test out taller chutes back in the late 60’s and early 70’s. Be interesting to know if they even thought about it on these models.👍
@@GarageGear I would definitely say with the modern machines and the past 10 or 15 years the R&D department tested everything out more than we could ever imagine and do certain things for a reason...
There's so many things to take in consideration when building snow blowers.
But people like you guys don't have to worry because at least you know how to fix something if it breaks something happens to the engine, or the gears you could fix them.
As for other people who don't have that luxury stick with what the snow blower company decided making everything the way it is. They spent millions of dollars developing everything with very highly intelligent R&D department engineers they know what they're doing.
But it's always fun to experiment.
;)
@@GarageGear Also keep in mind it's not always better to have a snow blower that there was something further.. You can't really change the distance that much.
For instance where I live It's much easier to throw the snow a shorter distance especially when you have sidewalks.. sometimes too much throwing power can work against you.
It's not always a good thing anyways. I think these snow blowers in general that throw about 40 to 45 ft is plenty for any situation and you could turn the deflector down to lower the throwing distance pretty significantly. Throwing 50 ft 10 ft more is really not much of an advantage anyways.
Then you have to look at how much of the snow is actually being thrown 50 ft The bulk of it is not even coming close to 50 ft..
That would be a whole other science project what's the bulk of the snow being thrown with each. I would say with the modern snow blowers it's all about the same.
Then of course you have the type of snow and all that.
The snow blowers are just fine the way that they are. They're good for any situation..
But I understand people like to do experiments and it's good for people's channels..
But I don't think I would recommend something that could possibly hurt there snow blowers.. I would put a disclaimer in front every time. Cuz literally could be doing damage.. especially the impeller kit. That's putting a lot my pressure on the machine..
@@muzikmon2267 I hear what you’re saying. This has been a fun project to experiment with. I’m excited to what it can do with different types of snow next season plus I got some maintenance content coming out on it in the near future! Stay tuned my friend! 👍
@@GarageGear I agree if I was you I probably be doing that stuff too.
Experimenting is fun. I completely understand.
Make your channel fun to watch.
This is why I subscribed to your channel ;)
Anyone know the paint code/name of ariens orange
Hey Oskar I believe there is a can of ariens spray paint in the Amazon listings. You can probably find the code there. Thanks for watching!
If you're in Buffalo you shouldn't have any issues testing out your snowblower this weekend🤣
No issues whatsoever! Thanks for watching Gary!
What do think of the ariens mammoth 850?
I'm south buffalo west seneca border line.
@@flowergodroar I like it! Just don’t know where I’d park it lol! Or get the $15K for it! 👍
Loll you're seriously 'out of snow': I can sell you snow for a good price and w a machine as you have I can throw it to you,,, Cheers from Québec JB !!
Hahaha make me an offer I can’t refuse lol! My neighbor wanted $3 a pound lol! We’ll send snow back and forth to each other! 👍 ROCK ON Martin!
I am doing a chute mod on my blower right now where I am using a chute off an older blower, cutting it in half, and then affixing to my existing 19" factory chute. I am also going to line the inside of the modded chute using Krazy Carpet material to see if that helps with the resistance. Question - what is the length of that longer Ariens chute you installed? Also do you think that going too long would actually hinder the distance..ie the motor power would not be sufficient for the chute length? I was thinking increasing the existing chute length from 19" to 24" would be sufficient...or would you go even longer? Its a 10 hp 24" cut unit. BTW - Love your channel! I just completed the auger mod you recommended but we have not had any snow since..LOL!
Hey Randy don’t over think it. Your machine should be able to handle the longer chute just fine! 👍 the leaky carpet is also a cool idea!
Your in buffalo ?
Yep Lancaster actually! Thanks for watching Mike!
Now that's cool that there's a you tube guy in my somewhat close town ,if I run across you if love to pick your brain about few things but not over the you tube waves lol
@@mikemuniak4711 sure thing Mike! ROCK ON bud!
Hahaha 😝 👍👍👍👍
Thanks for watching
Shute envy...
Hahahahaha! Call Eric lol! How ya been bud?
@@GarageGear doing well. Good to see that the channel is doing well. It's amazing how helpful TH-cam and subscribers are. There's no shortage of options on how to do things. You probably already know and understand all to well about that. It's funny how you try to help to inform and others know everything and believe that you should do it the way they see it.
@@whitieinvermont right on WHITIE! I’ve made plenty of good friends here on TH-cam over the past 2 years or so. Eric was super helpful with this project! Some others want things done their way it is what it is lol! Getting ready for lawn season?
@@GarageGear I need to dethatch my lawn after removing all the fallen branches from my trees. I'm waiting for the warmer weather to put down a weed killer.
@@whitieinvermont sounds like you’re ready to go there WHITIE! A man with a plan! 👍
That tall one looks ridiculous in my opinion and didn't throw much further than the medium length.
Thanks for sharing
LoL i need one that shoots all the way to the nieghbors driveway. 😂
Hey 2020! Check out some of my videos and you’ll see how you can do it lol! Thanks for watching!
@@GarageGear thx i will what about putting in a bigger gear , my nieghbors drive is right around 75 Ft. We have a love hate relationship. This would definitely put my up a few notched. LoL
@@edjharris1 that is a possibility. You’ll probably need a bigger belt too to fit it. Let me know if you go through with it.