Hey, didn't Mary's hair look GREAT??!!!! Mary has thrilled us all many times in her career. I've had the privilege of seeing her several times, the last time in the 1996 Olympic Trials 5000m race in Atlanta where she made the team. No gold, but what a career. Thanks for the memories, Mary.
Mary decker, 1984 ,she never really got over that her best chance of a gold medal ,she was the world champion at the time after a great 1983 world championship.
Zola's form transformed remarkably after this race. Her coach said that she was so wound up by the fuss over this rematch that it affected her greatly until it was out of the way. That sounds slightly implausible, but if you consider she was a 19 year old girl who had already endured so much negative publicity I can imagine the focus on this race was something she wanted to get over with. Zola gave a far more honest account of herself a few weeks later when she ran 8:28 to Slaney's 8:25.
I think Zola didn't feel too well. From a newspaper, Zola said, "I just wanted to keep up with the front runners and see what would happen at the end." "After five laps, it just wasn't there anymore." Mary, 8:32.91. Cornelia, 8:38.71. Ingrid, 8:40.34. Zola, 8:45.43. Mary's 1st 4 and last 4 = 2:10.73. Her middle 2200m = 6:22.18 or 69.487272 lap pace or 8:41.15454 for 3000m pace. Mary's coach was Luiz de Oliveira, according to an SI article. Zola's body matured a lot from 84 to 85.
Puica said that if she had fallen in the Olympic 3000m, she would have got up and tried to rejoin it. However, Decker didn't seem to make any such attempt. Perhaps not sufficiently experienced in international competition? However, it was disgraceful that the South African Budd was granted British citizenship to compete in the Olympics, circumventing the sporting boycott of South Africa's Apartheid régime.
Decker wasn't running as well in 84 as she was in 83, or subsequently did in 85. She also had a nagging injury going into the Olympic final, which meant she was training in a swimming pool. She simply wasn't at her sharpest. Puica was on top form going into that race.
I think both runners were and are great! They both have very different running styles and personalities. I do think it is sad that Mary still blames Zola for what happened at the Olympics. Its interesting to see how different their lives are now.
IT IS WHAT IT IS. BUDD moved over after passing and MARY had nowhere to go. IT WAS BUDD'S fault. Zola was too inexperienced and she knew it was her fault. That is why she stopped competing and gave the win to Puica.
@@greenwolfegreen6028 it was Mary's fault. Mary was the inexperienced runner. She herself admitted that....""I happen to know that wasn’t the case at all. The reason I fell is because I am and was very inexperienced in running in a pack."
No mention here abour Decker/Slaney failing a drugs test and being suspended by the IAAF. Everyone knows about the widespread use of and failed tests for performance-enhancing substances by US athletes over decades, even involving Carl Lewis.
@sc0ner If you look back at the LA race Decker was slowing, and it was Zola's injection of pace that took the leading four clear of the pack. While she slowed when she got to the front, it was back to the level Decker was previously going at. Decker didn't have to run up Zola's heels - there were faults on both sides. In a fair run race there is no way Decker would have beaten Budd by 14 seconds like she did here. (They would both have beaten by Puica anyway.)
+James No way Puica beats a healthy Mary, absolutely no way, Mary should have been off Budd's right shoulder, blame Brown her coach telling her to be next to the rail, dangerous place to be.
There is no question Decker was a strong runner, and one of the best at the time. It was a while back and I was quite young, but remember never really caring much for Decker. I thought she had no class. Budd, however, was truely remarkable. If one looks at many of her races, track and cross country, it will show that girls where always clipping at her heels. LA was just one example.
And years later Zola ran the Comrades Marathon c.90ks. I am still wondering how you trip someone running behind you? Mary was the better track runner in '84, but what a reaction and to keep it up for years! Zola would have run 10000m in later years, but the vindictiveness towards her as South African at the time of the ant-Apartheid protests and everything else going on in her life as a young woman together with her dignity marks her out as a wonderful human being.
mstrunn Zola has a heart of gold to speak so well of people who have wronged her is such a humbling thing to do ! I still cry when I think of her . My idol
how do you you guys think puica was the favorite & should & would win the 84 olympics? decker NEVER lost to her and decker's best times were better as well watching the recent ESPN documentary"runner" the blame should be put on mary's coaches. for whatever reason, we''ll never know they told mary if someone wants to take the lead, LET THEM?! since when did mary ever do that? NEVER! unfortunately mary listen to them, wasn't used to running in a crowd and there you have the incident!
Ken Born: From my understanding she took a test and it showed that she had elevated levels of testosterone. The test was thrown out as it did not take into account the t-levels of a woman in her 30/40s with menstruating and taking birth control pills. In other words the "test" did not prove anything or could even exactly account or measure for T-levels (sounds like a faulty test from the get go). They found no banned substances in her system (i.e. PEDs). Then there is the dialogue from the IAAF: In May 1997, Slaney and two other athletes were suspended by the International Amateur Athletic Federation, which stressed it was not presuming the athletes guilty of using banned substances, but that it had grown impatient because the cases had taken nearly a year to get settled. The U.S. Track & Field Federation eventually followed suit...Less than four months later, Slaney’s suspensions were lifted after a hearing with a USATF doping hearing board, which concluded that “Mary Slaney committed no doping violation last year.” Sounds like a witch hunt to me...proven to be a witch hunt.
Hey, didn't Mary's hair look GREAT??!!!! Mary has thrilled us all many times in her career. I've had the privilege of seeing her several times, the last time in the 1996 Olympic Trials 5000m race in Atlanta where she made the team. No gold, but what a career. Thanks for the memories, Mary.
No wonder why Ingrid Kristinsen was such a good marathon runner with those great times on the track
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Thanks for posting this - loved the races of Zola Budd - please keep them coming!
Mary decker, 1984 ,she never really got over that her best chance of a gold medal ,she was the world champion at the time after a great 1983 world championship.
Super race. Great atmosphere.
Zola's form transformed remarkably after this race. Her coach said that she was so wound up by the fuss over this rematch that it affected her greatly until it was out of the way.
That sounds slightly implausible, but if you consider she was a 19 year old girl who had already endured so much negative publicity I can imagine the focus on this race was something she wanted to get over with.
Zola gave a far more honest account of herself a few weeks later when she ran 8:28 to Slaney's 8:25.
I think Zola didn't feel too well. From a newspaper, Zola said, "I just wanted to keep up with the front runners and see what would happen at the end." "After five laps, it just wasn't there anymore." Mary, 8:32.91. Cornelia, 8:38.71. Ingrid, 8:40.34. Zola, 8:45.43. Mary's 1st 4 and last 4 = 2:10.73. Her middle 2200m = 6:22.18 or 69.487272 lap pace or 8:41.15454 for 3000m pace. Mary's coach was Luiz de Oliveira, according to an SI article. Zola's body matured a lot from 84 to 85.
Those who think that Puica was comparable to Decker were never really paying attention.
I guess we’ll never know
Puica said that if she had fallen in the Olympic 3000m, she would have got up and tried to rejoin it. However, Decker didn't seem to make any such attempt. Perhaps not sufficiently experienced in international competition? However, it was disgraceful that the South African Budd was granted British citizenship to compete in the Olympics, circumventing the sporting boycott of South Africa's Apartheid régime.
Decker wasn't running as well in 84 as she was in 83, or subsequently did in 85. She also had a nagging injury going into the Olympic final, which meant she was training in a swimming pool. She simply wasn't at her sharpest. Puica was on top form going into that race.
+James Mary injury free would beat Budd and Puica every day, any day!
I think both runners were and are great! They both have very different running styles and personalities. I do think it is sad that Mary still blames Zola for what happened at the Olympics. Its interesting to see how different their lives are now.
IT IS WHAT IT IS. BUDD moved over after passing and MARY had nowhere to go. IT WAS BUDD'S fault. Zola was too inexperienced and she knew it was her fault. That is why she stopped competing and gave the win to Puica.
@@greenwolfegreen6028 it was Mary's fault. Mary was the inexperienced runner. She herself admitted that....""I happen to know that wasn’t the case at all. The reason I fell is because I am and was very inexperienced in running in a pack."
Zola budd and controversy go hand in hand.
So you say.
No mention here abour Decker/Slaney failing a drugs test and being suspended by the IAAF. Everyone knows about the widespread use of and failed tests for performance-enhancing substances by US athletes over decades, even involving Carl Lewis.
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@sc0ner If you look back at the LA race Decker was slowing, and it was Zola's injection of pace that took the leading four clear of the pack. While she slowed when she got to the front, it was back to the level Decker was previously going at. Decker didn't have to run up Zola's heels - there were faults on both sides. In a fair run race there is no way Decker would have beaten Budd by 14 seconds like she did here. (They would both have beaten by Puica anyway.)
+James No way Puica beats a healthy Mary, absolutely no way, Mary should have been off Budd's right shoulder, blame Brown her coach telling her to be next to the rail, dangerous place to be.
Wow, this was like watching Secretariat win the Belmont. Mary was the best.
+nBallr I thought the same thing watching this, she looked like Big Red!
Equestrians understand
Some re-match - Budd was never near Decker's league.
And the worldrekord (zola)?
@@marioburger67 She set a world record for 5000M. But over the distances she competed in competitions - Decker was faster.
I always felt bad for Mary D A tough competitor but just no luck at the Olympics.
There is no question Decker was a strong runner, and one of the best at the time. It was a while back and I was quite young, but remember never really caring much for Decker. I thought she had no class. Budd, however, was truely remarkable. If one looks at many of her races, track and cross country, it will show that girls where always clipping at her heels. LA was just one example.
And years later Zola ran the Comrades Marathon c.90ks. I am still wondering how you trip someone running behind you? Mary was the better track runner in '84, but what a reaction and to keep it up for years! Zola would have run 10000m in later years, but the vindictiveness towards her as South African at the time of the ant-Apartheid protests and everything else going on in her life as a young woman together with her dignity marks her out as a wonderful human being.
Have Zola Budd and Mary Decker ever made up?
+Rc Yes, watch the film, The Fall, made 3 years ago, super movie!
mstrunn Zola has a heart of gold to speak so well of people who have wronged her is such a humbling thing to do ! I still cry when I think of her . My idol
how do you you guys think puica was the favorite & should & would win the 84 olympics? decker NEVER lost to her and decker's best times were better as well
watching the recent ESPN documentary"runner" the blame should be put on mary's coaches. for whatever reason, we''ll never know they told mary if someone wants to take the lead, LET THEM?! since when did mary ever do that? NEVER! unfortunately mary listen to them, wasn't used to running in a crowd and there you have the incident!
+mb Brown her coach shoulders the blame, Mary should have led not been against the rail.
This race indicates just how much superior Mary Decker was to all the other runners of her time. She was one of a kind in all respects.
@yortzandat Why the hell would you say that, any proof?
@@mstrunn Decker failed a drug test...she appealed....and lost the appeal.....definitely a cheater and was caught!
Ken Born: From my understanding she took a test and it showed that she had elevated levels of testosterone. The test was thrown out as it did not take into account the t-levels of a woman in her 30/40s with menstruating and taking birth control pills. In other words the "test" did not prove anything or could even exactly account or measure for T-levels (sounds like a faulty test from the get go). They found no banned substances in her system (i.e. PEDs).
Then there is the dialogue from the IAAF:
In May 1997, Slaney and two other athletes were suspended by the International Amateur Athletic Federation, which stressed it was not presuming the athletes guilty of using banned substances, but that it had grown impatient because the cases had taken nearly a year to get settled. The U.S. Track & Field Federation eventually followed suit...Less than four months later, Slaney’s suspensions were lifted after a hearing with a USATF doping hearing board, which concluded that “Mary Slaney committed no doping violation last year.”
Sounds like a witch hunt to me...proven to be a witch hunt.
Zola would have beat her but she lost her confidence since 84 oplymics!
Mary Decker, full of crap then now and 1984