BEST Mavic 2 Pro Picture Profiles | Normal, DLog-M or HLG? H.264 or H.265?
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Choosing the BEST Mavic 2 Pro Picture Profile is one of those things that you can’t truly see the results of until you do some trial and error. In this video, we’re going to find out which picture profile is best for the Mavic 2 Pro.
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What picture profile is your favorite for the Mavic 2 Pro? What do you use the most? I use DLog-M the most!
I like DLOG as well but the Premiere can not recognise H.265 that is the only problem.
@@iCLICKSTUDIOPRODUCTIONS Rubal, I'm using Adobe Premiere and it pulls in my Mavic 2 Pro files as DLog-M just fine.. Are you suggesting that it doesn't handle 10 bit internally?
D-Log! I edit and grade in Resolve...it’s beautiful footage for the sensor and fact it’s 400ft in the air!!!
@@johnsfilmsllc HI! and do we need to overexpose when shooting at d log, like when shooting on sony cameras in s log?
@@efimborisov8545 Efim, I ETTR (expose to the right) with my sony when shooting slog and Cine 3 quite a bit. The Dlog I ETTR as well, however I prefer to think of it as “expose for the highlights” because that tells you when you can stop. If you expose for highlights and get them in a nice spot you typically have the bottom end covered and the correction is easier. To note, I use the Leeming LUTS on both the DLog and slog….(did on my bmpcc4k and gh5 too). You can’t beat the accuracy of those when you get white balance and exposure correct in camera (or in the two nodes prior to the LUT node in resolve heheheh:))
Wow, thanks for the incredibly thorough dynamic range shot comparison. You found a great spot for your test that actually allowed us to see the difference -- I don't think anyone else has done a test that easy to see.
Thanks! Thats super useful. You got a new subscriber!
I enjoyed the nerdy stuff. This really helped me understand a bit between all the different profiles. Thank you.
I love nerdy stuff as well! I'm glad this helped you understand the different profiles for the mavic 2 - there are small differences that can have a big impact on the outcome of your footage - thanks for watching and commenting
I’m digging that loaf of bread in front of the keyboard
Thanks for this great advice !! The video really stands out among lots of others, as it's simple, firm and right to the point. Subbed
Thanks for the kind words! It's really difficult to make a video about such a complicated topic. This video could get really into the weeds, but tried to do my best at not making it really boring. Thanks for watching and commenting
@@keith-knittel For sure it took up a lot of time to create...keep up the great work my friend !! Cheers from Greece !!
Awesome video. Straight to the point and the perfect amount of nerdy!
Thanks for the feedback!
Excellent! Like nerdy things :-) Thanks again, fast and descriptive
I like making nerdy things! In the future I'll make some more super nerd videos, but I think overall I may lose a few people that don't like as many details. It's a delicate balance! Haha thanks for watching and commenting.
This is great! Thanks so much for making this. I love understanding the why behind your selections and the reasoning behind using each profile. If anything I would love it to be even nerdier! Kind of wondering about how to expose correctly for easiest post product and avoiding noise in the shadows. Thanks again!
Thanks, Voyageur - will keep that in mind for future videos! I plan on making some nerdier and in-depth videos about picture profiles (not for the Mavic 2, but for the next Mavic Pro version) and will keep this in mind. Properly exposing drone footage can be tough, will try to think of an easy way to get the best results with little shadow grain in the future! Thanks for the feedback and watching
Much appreciated…I’ll research this quite a few times in learning colour correction/grading….thanks
Glad you enjoyed the video - color profiles are a tricky thing but choosing the correct one will really set your footage up for grading or just sending quickly. Thanks for the support, David!
U r the first to explaine and to show in detail the difference !!!! Great job👍👍
Thanks a lot 😊 Glad I could help, Yan!
Amazing video. It was exactly the amount of nerdiness I was looking for. 🤣 You had exactly the answers I was looking for, to all my questions, so thanks for that! 10/10 would watch again.
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for the kind words, Exclaim!!
i really enjoyed this video ,,keep up the good work
Thank you josh! Glad you enjoyed the video !
Thanx for the info
This was very helpful! Thank you! =)
You're so welcome! Thanks for watching
Hi Kieth thank you very much. My photography style is "in the moment, as is" i do the absolute minimal of editing, leaving my photos as close as possible to what I saw.
Thats a great style! I like shooting creative photos and video, but when it comes to products - I like to keep them as true to life as possible. Thanks for watching!
Great video. I'm from Cleveland so really cool to see the skyline.
Thank you, fellow clevelander!
Good compare...I was going to do this with the DJI FPV because older systems choke on the H265 files so I set my FPV to H264 to deliver to certain folks. I mean the FPV camera is not as clean as the Mavic 2 Pro or Air 2 s but for those special swooping action type of shots, it works great.
Thanks great video!!
Thanks John! Glad you enjoyed it!
Hi! Thanks for the video. Sorry for this late question but, don't you think that H264 footage is more sharp than H265?
Another excellent video Keith. I have purchased the LUTS - they look very good. I look forward to using them, especially the natural look. By the way, nerdy stuff is good lol.
Thank you so much, Steve! That means a lot that you like them, they have been my go-to LUTs for the different profiles since I made them! I have more nerdy videos planned for the future! Thanks again for watching and commenting
Great one verry useful. Thank you
Thanks for the kind words and glad you found it useful, Rayan!
Perfectly nerdy. Just what this subject needed. Getting deeper into the differences between HLG and D-log would be interesting too.
I'm always hesitant to do too nerdy of videos because I think some people will just get bored and click off my videos, but I have a few nerdy videos planned for the future! Thanks for the feedback and suggestions, David!
What are your custom hlog settings for your Sony? How do you get your magic footage to match your Sony? Great video btw!
I got the message... Clear and Calm. Thanks!
Thanks for saying that, sometimes I fear that I'm not "TH-camy" enough with my personality - but I'm not an over the top outgoing type of person - you really struck me with that comment! Haha. Thanks for watching and commenting.
honestly, i love it...thanks thanks
I'm glad you like it. Thanks for watching and commenting!
Excellent explanation and video. 👍🏻👍🏻
Glad you liked it! Thanks for watching and commenting!
Great video and explanations.
Thanks for the kind words and thanks for watching! This video in particular took forever to edit, glad to hear you found it useful!
Nerdy videos are GREAT! Other types of videos are just too general, and there are far too many of those! Please do more! Last week, I used H.265/DLOG-M for the first time without even knowing what I was going to get; When I saw in DaVinci Resolve that everything was blown out, I was scared until I started to color grade and saw just how amazing the video became. I totally agree with you now; I will use only this format for most of my filming. THANK YOU! 🤛
Thank you for the feedback, dean! Love that you're enjoying the drone and glad to hear you love Dlog-M as well! Thanks for the kind words and watching!
Thinking of trying the HLG profile for the fall foliage here in New Hampshire. Hoping for the best. Excellent breakdown, btw.
That would be a great use-case for the HLG picture profile! I'm going to be out in the new england area in October, definitely going to shoot some HLG fall footage! Thanks for commenting and watching, Tom.
Great video! I would be more than happy for you to get super nerdy... the more detail the better!!
I would love to get nerdier! Anything in particular you want to know more about? Thanks for watching and commenting!\
Love your videos! I always shoot in h.265 on my mavic 2 zoom.
Thank you! H265 is awesome if your cpu can handle it!
I shoot mostly in HLG H265, as I love the saturation, and is actually easier to edit the colour preferences of my client's branding.
Hlg is an awesome profile. Very saturated and stylized! Thanks for watching, Andrew!
man... I like theway you put it...
new supporter here,
Thank you! This video was a lot of work, but really worth it! Thanks for watching and commenting, and your support! I appreciate it!
Great, everything understood.
Glad you enjoyed the video and thanks for watching!
very informative for me, Thanx
No problem, thanks for watching!
finally, someone talking about the HLG profile :P
It's a great profile! Super saturated!!
I love the HLG! I shoot in that profile on my Sony ZV1 (HLG3).
Not hard to color grade!
@@floriansworld5416 ZV1 awesome little gear I hear, I've only used HLG on the Mavic so far as I am having issues exposing it correctly on the Lumix G9
Great video. Just at the right tech balance.
Thank you for the feedback! I was curious if it was too much or not enough tech talk. Thanks for watching!
Awesome video, make more like this! I hope make about what better sharpening value for m2p. Tks matte.
Thanks Theodore! What would you like to know about sharpening? Sharpening on the drone or how to do it in post production? Thanks for watching and commenting!
@@keith-knittel hi matte, I like to see about sharpening on drone, what the best value, an comparison, sorry may english, im from Brazil. Tks man.
Thanks Keith, useful tips coming from an experienced landscape photographer who is new to my brand spanking new DJI Magic 2 Pro drone. I recently recorded a flew flights around a lighthouse here in New Jersey and after doing initial research of which setting to pick, I chose Dlog-M since I knew I would be taking the time to add Lumetri adjustment layer(s) to my video footage. I’m currently rendering as I type, I have no idea how this is going to come out but I’m excited :)
Congrats on the new drone! The M2P is one of my favorites and Dlog-m and HLG are my two favorite profiles for that drone. It's nice when you have some additional time to research and experiment around with different color profiles! How did your footage turn out? Thanks for watching and the kind words!
@@keith-knittel My footage came out ok, I had to pump the ISO early during the flight and nocked the noise down in post and I’m not so sure I should have chosen the transition styles but overall I’m not that disappointed with my first outing. Here’s the final product. th-cam.com/video/JXsMs8H4YGo/w-d-xo.html
Hello, please help: option H.265 not available when selecting D-Log M. I only have it when Normal is selected/highlighted.
It's a good useful video, not nerdy in any way as DJI never bothered to tell us what the differences are. If you were making a cinematic travel video with your Mavic 2 Pro for social media like TH-cam and Instagram, which would you use? H. 264 or H. 265 D Log?
Hey there Jay, thanks for the feedback. I love using D-Log if I'm going to edit and take my time with my footage, but if it's something that needs to go out quickly I'll use h.264 normal and get it shared quickly to social media or friends. Thanks for watching and great question.
great video mate! if you were like me (not going to colour grade and spend hours editing, but want excellent h264 Normal and raw photography ) would you go with M2P or Phantom 4 Pro? Thanks.
I have both of those drones, if you’re going for convenience, m2p all day. Much easier to travel with and take around you. Thanks for the kind words and watching!
Nice work. Very scientific.
Thank you, Owen. Hope you enjoyed the video!
Thanks for your video! I have had my mavic pro 2 for almost a year but have not used the 10 bit, 265 codec yet because I assumed my PC could not handle it though it has core I7 processor. I use cyberlink power director 17 which I find easy to learn and use. Thanks again.
It is definitely a CPU-intensive edit. I can edit it on my 2015 MBP but I have to drop the quality down quite a bit. Even then I'm getting a few stutters here and there. If it's a long project I'll set up proxies in Premiere Pro, but since youre using different software you may not be able to do that. Thanks for commenting!
With PD, it will make proxy files and if you have the time, you can pre render but unless you have a top line CPU/GPU setup, Preview your Edit in HD so you don't get all the stuttering during playback.
I still have windows 7 and it wouldn't play 265 until i downloaded a codec pack, (not windows hevc) it plays now and plays 2.7 60fps fine, ive yet to edit with it 🙃🙃🙃🙃🙃 my older windows 10 laptop played the files but it was slow, power director worked but again, very slow.
Great explanation!
Glad it was helpful, Bradley! Thanks for watching and commenting
@@keith-knittel Someday it would be great if you could shoot HDR with D-Log. Not sure if that makes sense. I really want HDR 360 photos!
Thanks to compare H.264 with H.265. However, cannot see the distinction between 3:30 and 4:10. Even when switch back and forth. Oh, I happen to be color-challenged, so only looking at the clarity and trunk against the glare. I now hear your comments about color saturation.
Hey there George, the difference between H.264 and H.265 normal is pretty minimal until you begin to color grade the footage. The H.265 will hold up pretty well compared to the H.264 footage because there isn't as much data in the H.264 footage. Thats not to say you can't use it, but if you're color grading - stick to the H.265 profiles. Thanks for watching and commenting.
I purchased the Mavic 2 Pro LUT Pack and it is great! In order to use the Creative LUTs, such as the Golden Hour2, may I ask what picture profile should I use ? Would the picture profile of HLG fits the use of those Creative LUTs ?
The creative LUTs can be used with any of the picture profiles after applying the picture profile- specific LUTs. That’s how I use them and tweak them if needed from there! Thank you so much for buying my kit pack, I appreciate your support and kind words!
Nice Good!
Thanks!
Awesome video review! About EV (F-stop) on h-265. Do you settings it 0,0 - 0,5 or more?
Thanks a lot!
Hey there, it really depends on the scene. If I'm flying really close and don't want to blur out my background, I'll use a higher F-stop (if light allows) but if I need more light, I'll use it wide open. Sorry for such a vague answer - thats a complicated one! Thanks for watching and commenting!
@@keith-knittel Thanks!! I'm having problems with noise
I have a smart controller and Mavic pro2 and have the same settings as you. I have seen other videos were there are more colour choices "true colour and vivid" no need to edit. I come from a film and slide photography background trying to get it correct in camera. I do not like editing and do not understand video editing. I like simplicity.
I understand your video very well. I will have to play and see what works for me. Thank you very much
Hey there Allen, I’ve done some film photography in the past and you are 100% right - nailing it in camera is the best method there. And there is absolutely nothing wrong with nailing it in camera but I enjoy the aspect of video editing and color grading a lot. I like shooting some clips and capturing their natural colors, but sometimes I love making creative color grades on clips and log profiles allow me to do that easier than the true or vivid colors. Again, not one way is right or wrong, just depends on the clip and what your shoot calls for! There are plenty of times where clients want true and natural colors that I try my best to nail in camera and not edit heavily. Great point and thanks for watching!
Great Tutorial! #subscribed
What camera and lens did you use to film this? Like the part where you're talking?
And what settings, lighting etc?
What profile did you shoot the speaking part in? Looks great. Was this look achieved mostly by grading or by using a lens filter?
Great look by the way! Very cool! I like the blues And yellows and how it's matte/faded. How the highlights are slightly bluish. Very cool look
Thanks for the kind words padkirsch! I absolutely love this look as well! In my videos, I try to do something different with each one and this was my low-key lighting and heavy color grading phase haha. I used a Sony A7III and a 35mm 1.4, my light was a godox SL62w with a 30in parabolic softbox with grid. I was using HLG3 on my sony camera and an ND4 to make it even darker. The color grade was something I came up with myself, but it did push the shadows cooler, remove some blue and a little more that I cant remember off of the top of my head. Thanks for noticing! I remember this look taking forever to come up with and I actually had to scrap a few videos to get this look right. Thanks again for the kind words and watching!
So H.264 normal would be the best choice if I using the Mavic 2 Pro just to capture simple shoots and upload the footage into Premiere Pro on a PC laptop?
Hard to say "best" choice, but as far as ease of filming, editing and posting - normal h.264 is perfect for that. The H.264 is easy on your laptop to edit which is nice if you don't have a very strong computer that can edit the H.265. Thanks for watching!
great tutorial! i thought that was a loaf of bread in front of your keyboard! haha
It is a loaf of bread! That's my wrist rest, Brian! Haha. Thanks for watching and the kind words.
Hi, does anyone could tell, if my Macbook Pro Mid 2015, 2.8GHz i7, 16Gb Memory would struggle with H.265 editing? Thank you
I am using polarpro ND/PL filters and adjusting settings to accommodate the 180 degree rule in cinematic video. Can these Mavic LUTS still be used?
Hey there Richard, yes my LUTs can be used. I've been using the Polar Pro / Freewell ND & ND/PL filters with these LUTs and they still work great! If you try the LUTs and for some reason you dont like them, email me and I'll give you a no questions asked refund for 30 days. Thanks for the question and watching!
Thank you for a great explanation
Very good video,
Petur
Iceland
Glad it was helpful, Petur. Jealous you're in Iceland! I was suppose to go for my bachelor party last year but all travel is still cancelled from the US. Thanks for watching
@@keith-knittel Hi, I hope you can come later, you enjoyed seeing all these weird people living in the north, I'm posting a video for you to watch.
Yes this covid 19 is going to be very difficult and boring, we are lucky that Iceland is an island and not many routes into the country :-) we can control this a bit.
@@peturpetursson6736 I hope I can too! Let me know when you post the video - would love to check it out.
So I’m going to Fiji, very vibrant bright colors during the daytime. Do you think HLG would be the best suit for that then? I want to push the tropical colors that I film during the day to their max
Hlg is going to give you really vibrant colors in the tropics! That sounds like a great use case for the hlg profile!! Thanks for watching and commenting, send me some of your tropic hlg footage when you shoot it!
Nice coverage. Your room footage looks washed out though. Aesthetic choice? Just wondering. Cheers.
Yes, I love the faded film look - was leaning into that pretty hard a few years ago haha. Thanks for watching
Do you loose any quality when you have to convert the H.265 to 264 so the computer & editor recognize the format? I am a beginner and using Hitfilm Express to learn, just don't know if I am wasting my time to convert everything if it's the same quality once it's converted.
If you're going to be exporting for TH-cam, you'll not be uploading your video with the widest color space available.. but that's not to say you shouldn't be shooting with the most colors available. Always filming with the highest quality will make your video look better overall as well. Just because TH-cam's 4k bitrate is between 30-60 Mbps, doesn't mean I'd only shoot in 60 Mbps. Shooting higher quality, then compressing down on your computer is a good idea. Because some day you may want to use that footage on a platform that allows for higher than 50 Mbps, but if you shot it in 50 Mbps - there is no increasing your bitrate to anything higher. That is a deep question that really needs it's own video (or video series) to answer, so pardon my over-simplification. Great question and thanks for asking it!!
Correct me if I am wrong, but I thought you had to shoot in DLOG to get 10bit? You stated you can get it with H265 and no color profile @ 1:11
This is from the DJI manual:
Color ModeDlog-M (10-bit), support HDR video (HLG 10-bit)
Hey there DGK, if you're shooting DLOG, you'll have to shoot in H.265 - you can also shoot in H.265 with the "normal" picture profile - that's what I meant by "no" picture profile. Thanks for watching and great questions!
Whats up! Avon Lake here! I fly M2P as well.
Hey there! Just checked out your videos - thats awesome, small world!! Greetings from Lakewood!
Hi sir Mavic 2pro how can doly shoot
Great Video. Im doing a wedding in a couple of days and the videographer whats me to shoot in 1080p.....Can I be in H-265 Normal, or bring it to H-264 Normal?
Why do they want it to be 1080p? If they don't want 4K footage, (I'm assuming) they probably don't want h.265 footage either. The H.264 footage will be easier to edit. Thanks for the kind words!
I have found quite a few videos on YT that talk about the lens distortion with the M2P and I use Davinci Resolve (free) for my editing and I wish that I had more time to spend with learning the software as I only do editing as (one of my many) a hobby. I noticed that there is an option in DR for lens correction, but alas, it is only an option in the Pro version and it is quite a bit of money for someone that isn't making any money from my edits (yet). Can you recommend any software that gives the ability to edit my 4K 100Mbps H.265 D-LogM video with LUTs for color and the ability for lens correction for free? I know that it's a big ask, but I would be willing to try if it really does make a big difference for fish eye correction. Thanks for the great info. I can also expand on the H.264 / H.265 topic as I specialize in digital video transmission and I am a Audio/Video design engineer by trade.
Hey there jerry, not sure of any free software that can do this - I use premiere pro and it is a great tool for video editing if your cpu can handle it. As far as free editors, davinci is great. Good color correction tools as well. I don’t use any plug ins to correct lens distortion, you can correct it yourself by adjusting the distortion values in premiere pro. I’m not sure about davinci but I’d assume it’s a similar editing experience.
@@keith-knittel who is Jerry? The free version of Davinci doesnt allow for lens correction (hence the comment). Thanks
@@jasoncherry2508 I'm so sorry Jason! I was responding to comments on my phone. Didn't know you had to pay for the in DaVinci, I've never used the paid version before, but this can be done in Premiere Pro. Not sure of any other software that can do this. If I come across any I will let you know!
I am mainly interested if a polarizer type filter is applied, can these LUTS still be used. Thank you in advance
Hey richard, just responded to your other comment on this video!
Do you have footage of your luts in use other then these examples in the video?
Hey there, there are some videos across my channel (in my "who is keith knittel" channel trailer) that use these LUTs. Do you have any questions about them?
hi, excelent video, i will get the pack of luts, i have a question, are they work in movavi editor? davinci? regards.
Hey there, these LUTs will work with any software that accepts .cube files. I’ve never used movai, but I’ve tested these with davinci and premiere pro and they work great. If they don’t work in your editor of choice for any reason, I’ll refund you! Thanks for watching
🙏🏽 Thank you very much, I bought it a few minutes ago, then I tell you if it works, as feedback. Regards
Thank you for your support! Let me know what you think of the lut pack!
Your welcome. Sure ill feedback when i use it. Regards. Thanks
Your title and your commentary uses the term "Picture" or "Image' profile, but what you are really discussing is a video profile, not a still image. I have an a 1st edition Mavic Pro that gave you the ability to choose d-cinelike for video and for still images using the h.264 compression. With my Mavic 2 Pro, I cannot find the settings to take still images in DLOG-M. Does that option not exist on M2P drones series?
Hey there, sorry about the confusion. Some cameras call them “picture profiles” - I understand that probably isn’t the best way to phrase that. The photo equivalent of a video profile, is shooting raw. That won’t compress your photo like a jpg will and you can edit all of the data that way. I don’t think the mavic 2 pro shoots photos in the picture profiles? Or if you can shoot photos in the different profiles? To be honest, I’ve never tried to shoot a dlog photo. Ill have to try it and report back to you, thanks for the great question and watching
Does your LUT pack work with Cyberlink PowerDirector 365?
Yeah, if you go to Fix/Enhance, Enhance, Look-up Table, you'll be able to import these LUTs and check them out. Thanks for watching and commenting!
@@keith-knittel Awesome! I've been reading a lot about LUTs, and just found it in PowerDirector.
I'm getting a Mavic 2 Pro very soon, and while I've color graded my videos in the past from other video cameras, the Hasselblad on the Mavic 2 Pro really opens up a lot in color grading, and enhancement.
I know many will scoff at me not using Adobe, but trust me, PowerDirector is the perfect choice for videographers that don't want to take a college course in how to use the software, LOL!
Being a professional photographer, I've always used Adobe for my photo work, but it's such a pain to use.
I guess that's why using LUTs is so enticing, because in one click, I can get to where I need to be instantly, instead of spending 30 min toggling sliders...
A couple of comments, questions if I may. I noticed you used -4 to fix the lens distortion. When I shoot D-log I need -11 up to -14. On other TH-cam channels I've heard people using -10. Shouldn't the lens distortion be the same for the same lens? Or are there other varied factors that cause the distortion? To me, the lens distortion is a big issue and leads me to shoot "normal." Why isn't there lens distortion when using h264? I know that's a lot of questions but perhaps you could help. Thanks.
Those are great questions that are way above my pay grade to answer! But I know when shooting raw with my a7siii, there are no lens corrections baked into the footage when comparing it to the internally recorded footage - so I have to apply some slight lens distortion in post to fix it. I assume the drone is recording whatever the sensor is reading out without any color or lens correction applied. Some shots will require more lens correction than others though overall. If you take a wide angle lens and shoot a building looking straight up, you’ll need some serious lens correction to make the lines of the building appear straight - but if you’re shooting the building from the air, in the center of the building you’ll likely need much less lens correction. For the straight on shots on the video I didn’t need much lens correction, but if you fly close to objects, or fly at an angle you’ll need much more. Sorry for that long-winded answer! Hopefully it was helpful - thanks for watching and posting great questions
@@keith-knittel Thanks for the quick and thorough response
I use Adobe Premier Elements. The documentation indicates that it accepts H.264 and H.265 files for import, but says nothing about DLog-M or HLG. I don't want to shoot video I can't adjust. What would you suggest?
Thanks.
Tom
If the editor can handle H.265 footage, you should be fine shooting in DLog or HLG. I've never used premiere pro elements but the h.265 files are enormous. They rely on your CPU (in premiere pro at least) to handle the video playback. Just a word of warning, you need a pretty beefy computer to handle the footage. Thanks for watching and commenting!
I’m new to the video world but I’m working on nice drone/landscape video and recently purchase a Sony A7iii with the Sony 24 f1.4 GM. What color profile do you suggest for matching these two camera’s footage? All of my drone videos from day one are H.265 DLog-M. I recently tried HLG3 on the A7iii and really liked the colors. I feel like it will flow together with my color graded D-Log but maybe not, I haven’t had a chance to compare because I don’t have any “decent” footage yet. Should I be shooting in Log on the A7?
Awesome video by the way! Very helpful, not nerdy at all!
Hey there, great camera and picture profile choice! I have an a7iii and shoot mostly in hlg 3 as well. I typically use the dlog on my mavic 2pro to match with my a7iii. The hlg in the m2p is really saturated compared to the a7iii hlg 1 2 or 3. It’s always going to be a little tough matching multiple cameras but it can be done! Thanks for watching and commenting
Aerial Guide Awesome! Thanks for the reply! Well that’s good news for me. I was really impressed with color on the little bit of video I’ve done on the beach with the A7iii and HLG3. I’m just trying to learn the camera at the moment, it’s my first camera ever lol, only had it a week so far. I’m getting the hang of it though. Can’t wait to complete my first video!
It’s an awesome camera. Try out the 1080 120fps! It’s pretty fun
Question: Is it possible to "render" a video in H-2.65 even though it was shot in Normal? 🤔Somebody just asked me this question on a DJI forum, but I didn't know.
Hey there Dean, while you "can" render a H.264 video to a H.265 - you're not going to magically get anymore resolution from that. It will be the same quality video (maybe even less if there are wrong encoding settings) but it will be essentially the same. The only way to get a "true" high-res file is to shoot it that way
Thanks for the video! Could you help me please! I'm shooting in D-log profile and have a lot of noise. I don't know why? Iso 100 - noise, Iso 400 - the same, 800 - too!
Hey there are you shooting with auto settings? It will choose some wild settings if you let it! If the iso is different and all noise levels are the same, I’d reach out to dji - that sounds like an issue with the camera
Thanks for watching and hopefully that was helpful!
@@keith-knittel I use manual settings: Iso 100, Shutter 50, 5500 WB
about lens distortions... what does lens distortions has to do with a dlog/hlg?
it are two separate things. I dont get it...
about hlg / dlog... both are 10 bit, is HLG just stretched version of the levels without getting clipped?
good explanation though, but it give me more questios.
keep it up!
Hey there Dennis, I'm not sure why HLG/DLOG has the lens distortion - if I were the DJI engineering team, I'd adjust the distortion! But that's not up to me - The difference between HLG and DLOG is how it displays colors and highlights/shadows. Each profile offers slightly (or drastically) different results when compared to other profiles. It all depends on what you intend to do with the footage. If you don't want to edit your footage heavily, I'd recommend using the "Normal" picture profiles - and trying out the LOG profiles later once you're comfortable with the Normal profile. Thanks for the comment and watching!
Dennis Volkerts Due to the limitations with the processing speed, the Mavic 2 Pro can’t do lens distortion correction for DLog and HLG. So you will have to correct that manually in post.
@@booklailert yeah so al the compressed ones are also messing with the distortion
Good video, I'm new And learning i swapped zoom for hassleblad thinking no zoom be way simpler but discovering adjustable aperture, my mind is going to mush
Thanks Tom! What are you having trouble with? There is a lot to learn if this is your first drone/camera. Thanks for watching and commenting!
To really utilize the adjustable aperture do I need to use lense filters like I do on my air to adjust shutter speed? , so without filters I must set to just take good pics?
@@tompeppint.v.3803 The ND filters are more for video, keeping the shutter speed and frame rate darker if you're in a lighter environment. For photos, they are more of a specialty item to darken the image if you're making long exposure photos during the day for example. For photos, you don't necessarily need ND filters - but for video it's a good idea to have them. I hope that helped and didn't just making things more confusing!
No it does , its telling me I'm trying to do something not meant to do, and its coming together, forever refuse to put on auto lol
Can you edit DLog-M or HLG in Davinci resolve?
You are able to edit H.265 in davinci resolve, but you may have to purchase the software to use it with those formats. Thanks for watching, Felipe
Very hopeful video! BTW what style sharp. Contr. Satur do you prefer?
Do you add more sharpness in post.?
Hey there, sorry I just saw this comment - I forget what those setting are off the top of my head but I think they are -1, -1, 0. I’m not trying to sell you my lut pack, but they are in my lut pack haha. I’ll comment again when I get back to my computer.
Thank you for watching and the kind words!
Great video! how to import and edit H.265 DLOG in Premiere Pro 2020? Can you please suggest or make a video on this. TIA..
Hey there, you can import H.265 footage as normal footage and color grade it from there. The LUTs I use are for sale in the description, but you can also color grade them yourself. Thanks for watching and commenting.
@@keith-knittel unfortunately Premier pro 2020 does not recognise H.265. Which Premier version are you using..😀
Rubai Huda productions I’ve been using the latest versions on both windows and Mac using creative cloud and am able to import the footage just fine. What error are you getting?
Good stuff, and keep up the nitty gritty...and could I have a bite of that sandwich?
Haha it's my wrist rest, so it probably wont taste great. Thanks for watching, Michael!
Maybe you should mention first that editing H265 needs powerful PC and graphics card and how many viewers do know that not every PC will be able to handle it.
I have new HP with Windows 10 and i7 onboard but its strugling when do colour grade with pinnacle studio so its not a matter of choice to me
H265 definitely requires more computer horsepower, if you’re struggling to edit smoothly you can convert the footage to h264 and edit it from there. If you’re using a program that supports proxy files, that’s another option as well. You can still shoot in h265 but you’ll have another step when it comes time to edit. But if you want an easier process overall, shooting in h264 will be easiest. Good points and thanks for sharing
Great vid.... But, why is there a baguette next to your keyboard... Hahaha... JK
It works as a great wrist rest!! Haha. Thanks for watching and good eye!!
Anyone notice what's that thing in front of his keyboard? Like a limp baguette or something.
That's exactly what it is! Well, it's a wrist rest - but shaped like a baguette
Hi when I'm in H2.65 D-log m my playback was very glitchy and sticky. What would cause this??? I'm using an i7 laptop. Any help would be good.
Hey there John, h.265 footage uses a LOT of cpu power. Close all applications while playing the footage and you should be good on a fast i7. Thanks for watching and commenting, hope that helps!
@@keith-knittel cheers Keith.
FOR MY IS THIS VERY HELPFULL . I HAVE JUST BUY 2 MONTHS AGO THE MAVIC 2 PRO AND I HAVE FLY WITH MY DRONE IN THE HARZ NATURE PLACES IN GERMANY AND I HAVE TAKE SO MUCH BEAUTYFUL VIDEOS THERE IN D-LOG MODE AND THIS LUT FILE COLORS STUF IS VERY NEW FOR MY AND I WANT TO GO TO USE IT AND I LOOKING FOR INFORMATION HOW TO USE IT . SO YES IS IS FOR MY VERY HELPFULL GREETINGS DANNY DAMVELD FROM THE NETHERLANDS.
Hope this video helped you while you're shooting D-Log footage - It's one of my favorite profiles. Thanks for watching and commenting - happy shooting!
Thank you so much greetings Danny damveld from the Netherlands .
I do not think the HLG profile has bright and saturated colors. When I play the raw footage on my LG OLED that supports HLG (HDR) playback it looks perfect. No need for color grading.
I haven't watched the HLG on a HDR 4K tv yet, I'll have to check it out. Great excuse to buy one for "testing" purposes. I color grade for desktop and phones mostly because thats where most people watch my videos. And even then, there are color differences between monitors and phones. Color grade for the final output. Thanks for mentioning that though! I'll have to check it out
Doesn't the HLG profile also embed HDR Metadata so that it can replay on a 4k TV?
Honestly... I don't actually know the answer to that. I thought that the "color space" (Rec.709, bt.2020), determined the amount of color that could be displayed. I'm not sure about metadata transferring to the TV, and if so, what data is being transferred. I'm going to write this down to check out further. Or can you elaborate more on this? Thanks for watching and the great question!
@@keith-knittel I believe I found the information on DJI's website. I think if you take the raw HLG file and replay it on a 4k TV that supports HLG (or upload the raw HLG to TH-cam), it will process as HDR.
I confirmed this! If you capture and grade in HLG, and then play on an HDR capable TV, it works and it looks beautiful!
Shout out to Lakewood
Shout out!!
What's up with the french baguette?
I love carbs, also that's my wrist rest since my Kira keyboard sits pretty high. Thanks for watching
Thank you for this tutorial. You mentioned zebra stripes briefly toward then end... I don't think I've found that perfect sweet spot of exposure with D Log-M. No zebra stripes at all? How about when looking at the lake with the reflection as in the beginning of the tutorial (I imagine there were some stripes on the lake) or if you're forced to shoot midday. Any thoughts would be immensely appreciated.
While I try to master the H.265 D-Log I'm honestly amazed sometimes at the dynamic range of the H.264 Normal, as was used in this edit of mine: th-cam.com/video/P_VZTH-7ATM/w-d-xo.html. I was able to recover a surprising amount of shadow detail in the closing sunset scene.
Thanks again,
Zach
Hey Zach, the amount of zebra stripes is up to you! It all depends on what youre trying to go for with your footage. If you want to make a high-key lighting style video, you're going to have zebra stripes all over the place (hopefully not too many on your subject), but if you're going for a dark and moody feel - you'll likely have no zebra stripes. I tend to shoot mostly in the middle with very minimal zebra stripes when shooting log formats (in this video I made the glare on the water more blown out than I typically would, just to see how the picture profiles handled the silhouetted trees against the blown-out water). Normal picture profiles are still great though! If I know I'm filming something quick that will not be heavily graded, I'll use Normal too! Nice video as well! Thanks for such a great comment.
Ahh why is there no CINE profile in 8 bit....my laptop does a lot better with 8bit. Didn't the older version have cine?
You have more color grading potential with the 10 bit footage. It is cpu hungry though! If your cpu can’t handle it or your not doing heavy color grading, use the h.264 normal profile and it will be easier to edit
@@keith-knittel I just want the drone footage to match the A7Siii and A7iii footage we shoot with. This gives me a lot to think about! :)
can i use H264 on D-Log M?
Hey there, D-Log is currently only available in h.265. Thanks for watching and commenting
@@keith-knittel Hi Keith, Imagine that my editing program only works with h.264. Is it usefull to film with dlog-m in h.265 and then convert it to h.264?
is that half a baguette on your desk?
Yes, thats my wrist rest! (fake baguette, obviously)
@@keith-knittel upgrade to a real baguette, doubles as a cure to hunger when you need it 😁
@@IdRatherBeHiking 🤣🤣🤣
Are you dutch?
Riley Banks nope
Does the same apply for the Air2s?
I'm currently making a new video for the Air 2S! Anything you'd like to know in particular?
@@keith-knittel ok, sometimes I shoot 4K 30, 60 or even 5k 30 using H265 and the playback on premiere pro is just bad. I switched my external HDD to SSD and it has gotten better but once effects are added to the clips it starts playing slowly. I don’t wanna use proxies all the time because it takes up a lot of space so I’m trying to find a better way to speed up the play back. Do you know of any?
@@truthseeker36 What are your pc or mac specs? Have you tried dropping the playback quality down? H265 is really tough on CPUs and requires a lot of ram if you're editing a large or complicated project. My i9 99900K PC and M1 MacBook air struggle with full quality quick clips in rapid succession with effects applied. Dropping it down to 1/2 usually lets it play back smooth. It takes a lot of computing horsepower to edit these! I'll do some testing and include the results in my next video. Let me know what PC specs you have, specifically the CPU. Thanks for the response
D-Log M is definitely not a "true" log format
I love nerds 😜
Would love to make more nerdier content in the future! Thanks for watching and commenting
How much is it worth the extra time grading, when MOST people will not know the difference? Lets face it, for most drone enthusiasts, it takes a lot of time to learn effective color grading, esp. with LOG type profiles. I'm to the point of considering using HLG3 with my Sony cameras but I know the time I'm going to have to put into learning color grading, will be a lengthy learning curve. Is it hard to film with the Sony cameras in LOG/HLG profiles? That must be a huge learning curve as well(odd with a dull profile). I've just recently set my M2P to H265. Like to compare footage between the 2(264/265) to see for myself, If I can see a difference.
This is not a very black and white answer. It comes down to your intentions and what you'd like to do with your footage. There is nothing wrong with shooting h.264 Normal footage all the time, but if you want to get the best quality and be able to adjust your footage, log profiles are the best way to do that. There is a learning curve, but that's the beauty of LUTs. I find what works for me and make LUTs so I can quickly adjust my footage. If you can take the time to learn how to color grade your footage to get it to look how you want it to look it can be very rewarding! But again, it's not a requirement if you're just looking to shoot in a normal profile and expose properly. A good analogy is picking a car. Most cars will get you from A to B, but if you want to customize your car to your needs it will suit you better. VERY good question, Tom - I'll be making a video dedicated to just this question.
As far as filming with the LOG profiles on my A7III, it is taking some tinkering around with for sure. Especially HLG, because 1, 2 and 3 all prioritize different things. Some are tuned for noise reduction, some for dynamic range, some for a mixture of both. I use a custom profile based on HLG 3, but with some HLG 2 characteristics so it's not as extreme. It's one of those things that you can experiment around with and find what works for you, and you can be as creative as you want! For example, the shadows are super crushed in this video. It's something I'm experimenting around with in my last few videos. I love how it looks, and I'm tinkering around with it slightly in every video. Would I use this grade on client work? Probably not. But since these are my TH-cam videos, I can experiment and try things out! Thank you for asking such great questions. Compare a few different color profiles and let me know which ones you like the best!
@@keith-knittel Thanks for the info! I've been using the H265 lately and I think my MacBook Pro seems to be more laggy with it and not sure If I notice a difference that much from H264. I really should do the same shot with ea. and compare. I'd be interested in testing out HLG3 if that offers the best Dynamic range. Where have you gotten your LUT's from?
@@trosencrantz Yeah, the h.265 will add a lot more load to your CPU than the H.264 footage. I've been really happy with my tweaked HLG 3 profile for color grading. For this channel, I go pretty crazy with the color grading (because why not!) and I've been surprised at how well the picture profile and the 1080p footage have held up. Going to start shooting in 4K to see if I can push the grade even further with the 6k downsampled 100Mbps footage! Also, I make all of my own LUTs for this TH-cam channel. It's one of my favorite parts of editing!
Didn't see any difference though!!
I clearly refuse to even understand why bother color grading.
it looks to vivid, unnatural to the real life, cartoonish and thus silly.
I want to see what the eye sees not fake color graded cartoon.
Depends on the look you're going for! Blade runner 2049 would be a very different movie with color accurate grading. There is no right or wrong color grade without context of what you're trying to accomplish with your choices - but sometimes color accurate and true to life is what you're going for