Misha mentioned something that relates to how I felt about the guitar tone on Loathe’s album I let it in… when I first heard it after being so accustomed to the metalcore tone for years and years it was almost jarring until I listened to it a couple times, now it’s undoubtedly one of my favorite albums. And favorite tones ever
This opinion rules and I totally relate to this. That’s been my favorite record since 2020 and has become one of my favorite records ever. And yeah man that tone was so FAT and full and dirty yet clear without sounding like every hyper processed modern tone
I remember reading that Trent Reznor limits what gear he has access to (locks himself away, basically) when he wants to be creative, because as it is, he has access to anything he wants and option paralysis stifles his creativity.
Its funny because lately its been hard for me to find motivation, usually Im very commited to a practice routine/exercises/learning songs and this coment helped a lot! :)
@@andynazr contrary to popular belief you don't actually have to spend ridiculous money on guitar. get yourself a decent guitar and a good modeller or plugin and you're sorted basically forever. guitar has never been cheaper and more accessible if you can exert some self control.
yeah used to be the only thing you had to do was get good at your guitar and you'd find other for the rest. now you 'need' to learn to program drums, self produce, record and even master etc...
I've always been fascinated with music, ever since I was a kid. I'm now getting into music theory and I'm using an mpcx with synths, I'm using GGD, I'm getting outboard rack gear like compressors and eqs, im just now able to afford better gear and I'm taking full advantage of it. I'm not just playing guitar, I'm doing everything and I'm having a blast doing it. My TH-cam performances are far from perfect but I'm having fun and I'm constantly learning. Music has always been a part of my life and it always will.
You are doing it for you first and foremost, being a songwriter comes in many forms and styles and it's great when we find that ourselves, on a ever improving journey of expression and creation.
"option paralysis" man aint that a mfer... we do have to many options these days in production in general... we just need to commit and deal with it like he said. im using this approach going forward!
Man. I just got the Invective MH and I love the sounds i get out of it. Running a reverb, a delay and a drive/fuzz blend, the simple, yet versatile build is so much fun. Get back to the basics and make good music. Tone doesn't have to be perfect. It just has to vibe
Playing acoustic while singing/song writing made music and guitar fun and challenging again after playing electric for +20 years. Did the band and touring thing, and I finally got out of that "boxed in" feeling I had while playing rock/progressive metal.
I really don’t like the gear snobbery, because I think it facilitates a lack of focusing on writing music, and more on how everything sounds. I used to be obsessed, and to a certain extent, still amp with guitars, pedalboards, amps etc, but once I find something that just works for my playing, I just stick with it now. And since I’ve forgotten about whether my tone is great or not, I’ve written some of the best music I could have
As a drummer (who’s never been in a band making a living off of it) I totally feel. I got about as good as I possibly could but eventually playing songs or jamming out for an audience of no one gets old. I imagine it would still get old even if I was in a band & had audiences, because everything just eventually gets old. Playing the same setlist over & over, the constant traveling (I hate traveling) etc. Eventually I sold my drums, now I just airdrum when listening to music lol
I really stopped getting excited about gear about three years ago. Maybe it was going to NAMM all of those times or seeing rehash after rehash. Every group was the same. Communities became weird in some aspects. Maybe predictable is a better word for that.
I've been playing 26 years, there's too many options today and everyone is trying to be a lead player with no originality, I stick to what I know and stay off these dumbass social media platforms with everyone playing the same things basically. I still plug into an amplifier. I don't use backing tracks for anything and I don't have a home studio. I just keep it fucking simple
Totally agree. Too many options, too many shortcuts, and programs that do most of the work for you these days. Today, people have far too much at their disposal and need to keep it simple, technology is more of a curse than a blessing these days. Keep it old school mate! ❤
Focus on music 100% and less on guitar. Guitar is just the fourth most important spice in a mix. VOCALS -> DRUMS -> BASS-> GUITAR. (AS A GUITARIST !!!) Most guitar tones lose 50% of their mojo in a mix anyways (low pass / high pass + 2-3 eq points and the tone is mix ready meaning its DEAD to a guitarist.)
I've been obsessed with less is more likely while everyone I know my age wants really expensive guitars or amps. I like the challenge of how do I make this 100 dollar quilter the size of a guitar pedal sound good.
I can't be bothered by al the new gear and 1000+plugins to be honest. As stated before by others as well, focus on the music and enjoy what you love to create and elevate to an art.
I stopped liking gear when I played an Epiphone Les Paul Trad through a 10w Blackstar. It was just like "huh, this feels as good as it's going to get." I'd played for around 8 years by then, both bass and guitar, from multiple brands (weirdly BC Rich was a favorite of mine, but I think i kept getting lucky from the sounds of things). It was kind of a "well what now?" kind of moment. Lol I had to pawn her for rent money a bit ago but sometimes, when I close my eyes, I can still see her... 😢😢
i have never had this problem. In fact it is the opposite, I am obsessed with my guitar and music in general and i have been for like 20 years straight now.
That's soo true! The benefit of the doubt. And it's a universal law not just confined to guitar playing. Songwriting, art, maybe even cooking. Little idiosyncracies matter.
1:27 there’s a Funeral For A Friend song called “Roses for The Dead” that at around the 2:52 mark that has a weird snare hit that sounds like a mistake and it feels like it was on purpose. I get what Misha is saying
Well, as soon as you have to rely on just about anything to just stay alive, the thing(even if the thing is something you absolutely love), you will no longer be excited about it after a while. This doesn't just apply to guitar.
love the show but its seems like flin always complaining about something or coax his guest to do so " i have too much so it hard to get excited again woe is me"
I think the hardest thing nowadays is that guitar isn’t “mainstream” it’s easy for people who like pop/rap/edm to stay motivated because they have a tie to current pop culture Now I’m not saying that something has to be mainstream for it to be easier to stick with, but it would for sure as hell help if we still had bands as grand the old giants like Led Zeppelin, Black Sabbath, queen, Floyd Every kid and their neighbors wanted to be a rockstar nowadays that is not the case. Guitar centers/stores are not filled with little headbangers trying to be the next zeppelin I feel until we have a shift of the popularity of music guitar is just a nerdy and uncool hobby to be into unfortunately
I'd imagine it would be hard to stay excited if all you can do is slam open strings in open time signatures, maybe the odd bend while flexing in a crab stance .....think of all the amazing 4/4 riffs out there and other parts of the fretboard that could be explored!!!
LOL this is coming from a guy who doesnt even know music theory?? He hasnt even learned how to properly navigate his instrument, yet he is "bored". Ooookayyyy.
Guitar is boring. Its done out. I play every day and my interest peaks and plummets constantly. I think its just the way it goes you can't always be all about it unless you've got some sort of hyper-fixating personality.
I don’t directly think the guitar is boring, only when I’m out of ideas does it become boring, the struggle for me is finding new music to be excited about and learn it
art in general can be boring when we force it, sometimes we have to just sit back and enjoy something else and then continue. we cannot get fixated on one thing or else it can easily bore you to death.
youre not supposed to be "excited" all the time, this is BS crap from the oh I want to be happy all the time, i want to chase happiness. Its fine not to look for excitement and be content with what you have, if anything this obsession with excitement is the best recipe for unhappiness
it's not hard for me to stay excited about guitar, sorry for anyone that's in that place in life. Must suck. mega first world problem though. write a song about it.
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Misha mentioned something that relates to how I felt about the guitar tone on Loathe’s album I let it in… when I first heard it after being so accustomed to the metalcore tone for years and years it was almost jarring until I listened to it a couple times, now it’s undoubtedly one of my favorite albums. And favorite tones ever
This opinion rules and I totally relate to this. That’s been my favorite record since 2020 and has become one of my favorite records ever. And yeah man that tone was so FAT and full and dirty yet clear without sounding like every hyper processed modern tone
Guitar tone on that record is so damn good and it's crazy to think it's all amp sims
I remember reading that Trent Reznor limits what gear he has access to (locks himself away, basically) when he wants to be creative, because as it is, he has access to anything he wants and option paralysis stifles his creativity.
If he loves the idea of creativity so much why doesn’t he try it sometime lol, that shit is a snoozefest
Squarepusher too
Great dillinger album btw
It’s easy to stay excited if you focus on music and not your instrument. Don’t play guitar play music my friends!
Its funny because lately its been hard for me to find motivation, usually Im very commited to a practice routine/exercises/learning songs and this coment helped a lot! :)
And also it’s the best decision for your pocket. Lol
1000% correct time away from the instrument, is crucial.
Focusing on being as good as you can possibly get is also really fun. Or it is to me anyway
@@andynazr contrary to popular belief you don't actually have to spend ridiculous money on guitar. get yourself a decent guitar and a good modeller or plugin and you're sorted basically forever.
guitar has never been cheaper and more accessible if you can exert some self control.
There is such a thing as too many choices and i think we're seeing it now. I wanted to be a musician, not a software engineer lol
yeah used to be the only thing you had to do was get good at your guitar and you'd find other for the rest. now you 'need' to learn to program drums, self produce, record and even master etc...
I've always viewed those things as good things because they can carry over into work and getting jobs in places I actually WANT to work haha
They're tools for producers that guitar players can also dabble into.
What's the best way to get into software engineering?
@@HeyIntegrity get out
I've always been fascinated with music, ever since I was a kid. I'm now getting into music theory and I'm using an mpcx with synths, I'm using GGD, I'm getting outboard rack gear like compressors and eqs, im just now able to afford better gear and I'm taking full advantage of it. I'm not just playing guitar, I'm doing everything and I'm having a blast doing it. My TH-cam performances are far from perfect but I'm having fun and I'm constantly learning. Music has always been a part of my life and it always will.
You are doing it for you first and foremost, being a songwriter comes in many forms and styles and it's great when we find that ourselves, on a ever improving journey of expression and creation.
"option paralysis" man aint that a mfer... we do have to many options these days in production in general... we just need to commit and deal with it like he said. im using this approach going forward!
It’s pretty amazing the quality sounds you can get with free plugins as well.
Man. I just got the Invective MH and I love the sounds i get out of it. Running a reverb, a delay and a drive/fuzz blend, the simple, yet versatile build is so much fun. Get back to the basics and make good music. Tone doesn't have to be perfect. It just has to vibe
Playing acoustic while singing/song writing made music and guitar fun and challenging again after playing electric for +20 years. Did the band and touring thing, and I finally got out of that "boxed in" feeling I had while playing rock/progressive metal.
Really good questions, great interview!
I've been playing for 35 years and never once got bored with it....
Listen first
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I really don’t like the gear snobbery, because I think it facilitates a lack of focusing on writing music, and more on how everything sounds. I used to be obsessed, and to a certain extent, still amp with guitars, pedalboards, amps etc, but once I find something that just works for my playing, I just stick with it now. And since I’ve forgotten about whether my tone is great or not, I’ve written some of the best music I could have
I remember talking to Misha in a little music stop in Lawrence KS like 10 years ago. He was so humble and chill.
The paradox of choice…
As a drummer (who’s never been in a band making a living off of it) I totally feel.
I got about as good as I possibly could but eventually playing songs or jamming out for an audience of no one gets old.
I imagine it would still get old even if I was in a band & had audiences, because everything just eventually gets old.
Playing the same setlist over & over, the constant traveling (I hate traveling) etc.
Eventually I sold my drums, now I just airdrum when listening to music lol
Noob
A good drum pad, sticks and a set of headphones 😎🥁
Love the Archspire Stay Tech shirt.
I really stopped getting excited about gear about three years ago. Maybe it was going to NAMM all of those times or seeing rehash after rehash. Every group was the same. Communities became weird in some aspects. Maybe predictable is a better word for that.
I've been playing 26 years, there's too many options today and everyone is trying to be a lead player with no originality, I stick to what I know and stay off these dumbass social media platforms with everyone playing the same things basically. I still plug into an amplifier. I don't use backing tracks for anything and I don't have a home studio.
I just keep it fucking simple
Totally agree. Too many options, too many shortcuts, and programs that do most of the work for you these days. Today, people have far too much at their disposal and need to keep it simple, technology is more of a curse than a blessing these days. Keep it old school mate! ❤
I stick with my stealth 50 for tone. ❤
You need to have it al to realize you don’t need it all.
Focus on music 100% and less on guitar. Guitar is just the fourth most important spice in a mix. VOCALS -> DRUMS -> BASS-> GUITAR. (AS A GUITARIST !!!) Most guitar tones lose 50% of their mojo in a mix anyways (low pass / high pass + 2-3 eq points and the tone is mix ready meaning its DEAD to a guitarist.)
I've been obsessed with less is more likely while everyone I know my age wants really expensive guitars or amps. I like the challenge of how do I make this 100 dollar quilter the size of a guitar pedal sound good.
I can't be bothered by al the new gear and 1000+plugins to be honest. As stated before by others as well, focus on the music and enjoy what you love to create and elevate to an art.
1:00 #Nollysaid 🤓
Nolly the philosopher of our time. He certainly has the beard for it
Have fun with one thing, explore a lot of things, have fun with the momentary thing of things
I stopped liking gear when I played an Epiphone Les Paul Trad through a 10w Blackstar. It was just like "huh, this feels as good as it's going to get." I'd played for around 8 years by then, both bass and guitar, from multiple brands (weirdly BC Rich was a favorite of mine, but I think i kept getting lucky from the sounds of things).
It was kind of a "well what now?" kind of moment. Lol I had to pawn her for rent money a bit ago but sometimes, when I close my eyes, I can still see her... 😢😢
i have never had this problem. In fact it is the opposite, I am obsessed with my guitar and music in general and i have been for like 20 years straight now.
That's soo true! The benefit of the doubt. And it's a universal law not just confined to guitar playing. Songwriting, art, maybe even cooking. Little idiosyncracies matter.
Love ggd hate kontact ,also had issuses with then china cymbal always sounding like shit. I hope one day they make a ggd standalone version.
100% agree. Kontakt is always a monumental pain the ass
@@strayedsheep1504 hard to route it properly and its slow but its the easiest way to create a sound library.
1:27 there’s a Funeral For A Friend song called “Roses for The Dead” that at around the 2:52 mark that has a weird snare hit that sounds like a mistake and it feels like it was on purpose. I get what Misha is saying
Once you get to a certain level it's almost like what's the point anyway it's sad and scary
Well, as soon as you have to rely on just about anything to just stay alive, the thing(even if the thing is something you absolutely love), you will no longer be excited about it after a while. This doesn't just apply to guitar.
love the show but its seems like flin always complaining about something or coax his guest to do so " i have too much so it hard to get excited again woe is me"
I think the hardest thing nowadays is that guitar isn’t “mainstream” it’s easy for people who like pop/rap/edm to stay motivated because they have a tie to current pop culture
Now I’m not saying that something has to be mainstream for it to be easier to stick with, but it would for sure as hell help if we still had bands as grand the old giants like Led Zeppelin, Black Sabbath, queen, Floyd
Every kid and their neighbors wanted to be a rockstar nowadays that is not the case. Guitar centers/stores are not filled with little headbangers trying to be the next zeppelin
I feel until we have a shift of the popularity of music guitar is just a nerdy and uncool hobby to be into unfortunately
@@Grading_GOA 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👑
I call it "option paralysis" because everything is so accessible it's hard to even decide on a tone to play with.
Good Dillinger escape pan album too
6:21
Wait which sample is this?!
I'd imagine it would be hard to stay excited if all you can do is slam open strings in open time signatures, maybe the odd bend while flexing in a crab stance .....think of all the amazing 4/4 riffs out there and other parts of the fretboard that could be explored!!!
I’m gonna be completely honest and say even the plug-ins are more on the expensive side. Guitar stuff is exspensive.
Stay Tech!
Go with Bob Ross and say: that's a happy Mistake!
Lol it’s called true passion for something.
The most Astro turfed guitarist ever lol.
Just give me a well worn in guitar and a small tube amp.
LOL this is coming from a guy who doesnt even know music theory?? He hasnt even learned how to properly navigate his instrument, yet he is "bored". Ooookayyyy.
Guitar is boring. Its done out. I play every day and my interest peaks and plummets constantly. I think its just the way it goes you can't always be all about it unless you've got some sort of hyper-fixating personality.
I don’t directly think the guitar is boring, only when I’m out of ideas does it become boring, the struggle for me is finding new music to be excited about and learn it
art in general can be boring when we force it, sometimes we have to just sit back and enjoy something else and then continue.
we cannot get fixated on one thing or else it can easily bore you to death.
@@Roses._thornz write it
Sound like it's just not your passion
You’re a product of your environment.
youre not supposed to be "excited" all the time, this is BS crap from the oh I want to be happy all the time, i want to chase happiness. Its fine not to look for excitement and be content with what you have, if anything this obsession with excitement is the best recipe for unhappiness
Periphery sucks now. I said It.
Its so true. I have so much respect for my heroes I never hear mistakes. Only tasteful choices.
Either you love to play music or you don't. To many folks telling guitar players you need this or that. Just relax and play.
it's not hard for me to stay excited about guitar, sorry for anyone that's in that place in life. Must suck. mega first world problem though. write a song about it.
His biggest problem is that he expects too much. He should start searching for random sounds and start from ground up again
Yep, I think as musicians we've been spoiled 😂