Finally, a balance patch for Street Fighter 6! However this is not "the" patch. Season 2 patch will be in the future, and its gonna be much more significant than this one. Not to say there's nothing here, but don't expect sweeping game changers, this is more of a "get you by" patch until Season 2 hits. Full patch notes are in the video description if you wanna check that out and ill say whats here is good, but really wish some of the lesser characters like Honda and Lily got like, anything. That all said give the vid a watch, like if ya liked it, and lets talk patch stuff!
I watched a couple of other vids on the patch and you were the only one thay highlighted the cool stuff all players get. Especially the worldwide play. Thats amazing! Thanks for the high quality vids and the extra content.
I like the developer note on Ryu's changes. "In a vacuum, Ryu seemed fine." Really reflected my thoughts on the character. It felt like they designed him first and then never got a second pass while they were designing the other characters, especially the shotos.
Honestly tho. Cause on paper he's great. Hits like a truck, good neutral, etc. But he just doesn't stack up. I honestly think that if they just make it so you can choose to spend your denjin charge rather than being forced to spend it, he will be perfect. All they gotta do is make it so you gotta hold the button for a frame when you do your fireballs/hashos to get the denjin version.
@bigfitts lol what? Ryu has alway been a stubby shoto. Giving him flexibility with denjin and keeping him hitting like a truck puts ryu in a good spot. He's never been a whiff punish machine lol
@sergiok6660 no he has not. Ken and him had the buttons with slight changes since the beginning. The change their med and heavy punch animation in Street Fighter 4 because of ken target combo. Then Capcom change them completely in sfv. But Ryu still had good hitbox and hurtbox until the nerf him in season 2 of sfv. They overturned Luke because of his pick rate was high in sfv because of how broken he was. He was going to be the main character of six.
@@sergiok6660 Stubby Ryu is an SFV invention. He has the same range as Ken in all other games before that, they just had some unique normals, supers, and special properties depending on the game. There is no reason Ryu should have shorter range than Ken who is more rushdown when range is typically associated with defensive play.
You can't go for meaty command grab on +4!! That would mean sweep TC gives you meaty command grab ahah. Command grab is frame 8, and if a throw hitbox and a strike hitbox (say, from a 4-framer) collide at the same frame, the strike will always win. stMP would trade with 4-framers on +4 which gives you trade combos Did you mean LVL1 drink followup after a launch (like OD palm)? Cuz in that case, you're +7 which does give you meaty command grab/stMP mix!
@@Saskaruto16 nope. Throws can counterhit a strike's startup, but if they hit at the same time the strike wins. Think of the Ken throw loop nerfs - people say you "can't throw loop at +1" because at +1 throw loses to wake up 4-framer
I have to say the way you do these videos is unmatched by any other big fighting game youtuber/streamer I know. I also love that you really care about the story and customization aspects.
@rooflemonger I think about ssbm and how the tier list has had changes in the past couple years despite being a 20 yr old game. I honestly agree with the sf team's decision to do yearly balances, allowing them to be really smart and delicate. However, to compensate they GOTTA have more event style stuff happening throughout the year. Because, hot take, but I think people miss the excitement of a balance changes more so than the changes themselves.
@@YourBestBudythe issue with comparisons to melee is how much depth of options there are compared to sf6/many 2d fighters. Characters are pretty locked in to their game plan and ability ceiling in sf6
And to think I might have to do exactly this again tomorrow for Mortal Kombat lol. Anyways yes Ed is now live! And THERE'S A LOT OF GORILLA STUFF TO TALK ABOUT NOW, first time in like 5 years or however long its been. Im gonna take a nap and then probably later tonight come up with an ed/gorilla/dolphin(there's a shadaloo dolphin now) video.
That'd be great. I skipped 5 entirely because I didn't like the roster on release an' heard bad things, so I don't know the lore of the legacy of Ed. I'm jus' happy I've got a boxer, even if it's not my main man Dudley (yet).
Look, I'm with you, we gotta have the gorilla and the dolphin. But don't lie, you know in your heart that we need the baby as a playable character. OR I'd settle for the gorilla carrying the baby, like Oro and his turtle.
If anyones played AKI they know the jab hitbox extension is HUGE. One of the biggest letdowns mid fight is missing her little 2/3 jab sequence that would link two combo “pieces” together and getting punished for it. It was really finnicky and combos that in most situation worked simply didnt in some few others because the opponent would “drift away” from AKI’s reach. so sometimes you needed to visually gauge the distance and try to compensate will one less jab or drop the combo altogether.
Ryu also has a buff on EX DP, as a two hit move only the first one would hit and it wouldn’t knock them off the ground so ryu would get punished heavily for making a right read. Now it knocks back even on the first hit, this is an important QOL change.
14:57 Slight mistake I noticed Roofle - the damage buff was only given to Denjin EX Hashogeki, but the combo you displayed here uses normal EX Hashogeki which was unchanged. Regardless, thank you for the hard work as always!
woops, during that segment there was a bunch of noise outside(I live right besides a bar, so... drunks) and I re-recorded it a few times and I guess I forgot to apply denjin on that take lol my bad
these changes were huge. I have no doubt we're getting something major with the season, but buffed BMK is now a real tool, and the lvl2 quality of life is insanely nice. We're low-mid tier at worst, Manon is doing fine, she's the best grappler by far. Unpopular opinion but the Manon playerbase takes part in criminal downplaying. The community as a whole pretty much refuses to explore her more unusual options because the general consensus is that they're bad. Spin is unnecessarily hard to use, but a truly invaluable tool. The attitude about the EX version is downright ridiculous. It's very situational, but it's power to negate mid pressure tools that are typically plus is insane. It's also the best answer to fireball > drive rush in the game. Ken's at my local literally don't use dragonlash against me anymore bc I got so good at EX spinning it.
@@Windraesa The short answer is no. The long answer is - practically speaking - the devs aren't going to "unfairly buff" a character, they're going to improve tools in a way that preserves character identity and makes the game plan more consistent. But downplaying is supposed to influence devs to revisit a character they weren't planning to revisit and realize the char is underperforming.
Thank you so much, you got a new subscriber. I'm new to fighting games, and there's a lot of things about frames, hitbox, etc that I don't know, so I didn't really understand the patch notes. This video made everything clear to me.
Yo Roofle, thanks for the vid. Although you covered most of Ryu's changes, you missed a key buff to OD SRK. Previously, the first hit of OD SRK pushed the opponent back. Although this wasn't something seen a lot, Ryu players can tell you about the frustration with a distanced opponent getting hit out of range for the 2nd hit of the OD SRK (which lead to the opponent punishing the Ryu player). With the patch, the 1st hit now puts the opponent into a juggle state (think the effect of counter hit hasho) so if the Ryu player only connects the 1st hit of the OD SRK., the opponent isn't left in a position to punish them. Semy28 was testing and there maybe some niche applications where the move trades and allows the Ryu to punish but these may need further testing by the Ryu community.
So ig broski was wrong about a few things like the luke mp, I love when we have multiple people all investigating so we can compare notes and keep things straight
Oh noes, at 18m02 the JP theme starts...too soon after CCX ahahah Loving these changes, never got to be active in a Fighting game when there was patches, so this is nice to see.
Quick and detailed as always. And I love these timestamps! ^^ Can't wait for the guide for Ed, he sure feels...different and sort of complicated after playing months and months good old bread and butter shotos like Ken and Luke.
Awesome as always Roofle! The Ryu changes makes him more interesting for us player who get turned off by other too mechanic-complex characters. I tried ED, I don't like him lol, he is like a Poorman's Dudley. Sad, we could have gotten Dudley but nope we got dollar store boxer Ed. For the Season 2 Patch, I want Honda to get EX-Clap as an answer for EX Fireballs and cancelable into HHS without need of Buff; and get Fireball invul returns to his Sumo smash (Buttslam) like in SF2HF on the way up (if that's too much, maybe give to him on EX Sumo Smash (Buttslam)
I don't think anyone will be untouched in the big one, even if it's only in that there will likely be a new mechanic in some way (making assumptions off my understanding of sfv over the years)
correction, for Ken, walking forward a bit after corner throw still gives strike throw mixup (this beats wake up mash jab), slightly harder but fairly consistent with a bit of practice
As a aki main i love how capcom is like man al ya need is a slightly better cr lp to compete with top tiers lol. But hey.... you can also ways be a lilly main lol
It's almost a nerf in some ways. They didn't alter the properties of up-chain so now you can hit confirm and actually whiff the combo if you're too far away from your opponent. We used to be able to confirm it mindlessly but now we have to pay attention to our distance.
@@236Doodad lol i noticed that yes but at least here and there we can poke to break momentum i guess. Lets hope the real balance patch will help us more
one thing to note about the ken changes, you can still beat 4 frames and throw loop with walk up throw instead of forward dash, you just have to manually time it. your coverage sort of implies this isnt the case, great video though!
yeah, but if you walk up and throw and they hit nothing, you lose and whiff cause the throw can't cover the range in time before their wakeup, that I did test out. Its not exactly something you should be aiming for
@@rooflemongerI think you got everything down, I’ve even seen some people say that now ken is in perfect heavy punch range so it doesn’t nerf him lol. He can’t follow up from that range if his meaty hits unless he uses drive cancel so yeah, many people don’t know what they want or have.
I hope the patch will make combo animations where Jamie lays on the groung before executing the kick/punch whatever gives him a drink. My manz needs some he'p!
Important thing to note about Jamie‘s lvl 1 is that you now get okie if you decide to go for the drink follow up. You’re now +4 instead of - 1. which is a nice change, you can either go for damage or you can go for a mix
Heh changes to amnesia and lariat but not the ones people wanted :P Although not getting meter and 60% from an amnesia will be good too. Thank you for your work Rooflemonger
Since this is the actual first gameplay patch since the sf launched I wanted to hear all of it but hearing you say how nice it is to have chapters I did actually hit the like button for all the other videos you included them in thank you EDIT: UNLOCKED MATCHMAKING 😭😭😭
I am thinking about Zangief's new ability to cancel into a level 3 super, and still not sure how to think about it. It will make him better for sure, but it kind of removes the uniqueness of the super. If you play Zangief, what's the incentive to use raw level 3 post-patch? Sure, it's very dangerous since it can't be jumped out of after animation, but it's still a very risky guess. It feels like everyone will just try to hit-confirm it with OD Lariat now for guaranteed damage which kind of turns it into just one of the many homogeneous level 3 supers that just does a little extra damage. I guess time will tell.
People have been BEGGING for expanded matching since day one. Capcom releases expanded matching and I find out not through their patch notes, not through their twitter... but through Rooflemonger. That is... actually very on-brand for Capcom, lol. 😆
Had to come back to the source where I learned about the JP cr.HP nerf, cause I've seen FAR too many people saying it was too much... Which my gut instict says is just wrong??? Makes me wanna go thru and test other anti-air normals and see how it now stacks up against the competition (video idea perhaps?)
Rooflemonger must be cooking some enormous guide for Tekken 8, long time no see 😅 but seriously although I don't play other fighting games (how do you guys keep up with it?!) I appreciate each of your videos, maybe someday I will give SF a serious try
I like how SF6 gets a really great, much needed, and carefully thought-out mini balance patch right alongside T8's latest patch that is setting game discussion on fire by buffing King, nerfing Leroy, and leaving Jun, Dragunov and Xiaoyu pretty much untouched
@@MrShinTensei They really are and they thankfully also really make his play-style feel unique compared to previous iterations. Hashogeki about to be move of the year for me
Bottom 5 got buffs: Jamie, Ryu, Aki, Manon, Zangief Top 5 got nerfs: Ken, Luke, JP, DeeJay, Chun Li Bug fixes for Dhalsim and Blanka, but Rashid got a nerf and a buff. I bet that system wide super armor fix is a buff for Marisa. They could have at least fixed both Lily's and Kimberly's invincible reversals. But that would elivate them a whole tier. The only characters moving a tier from this patch is Ryu and JP. Ryu is no longer bottom 5, and for a couple months, Honda will take Ryu'a place in the bottom 5, and JP is definitely no longer top 3 maybe not even top 5 anymore, maybe.
Jp and Ryu player. A great day. People calling jp nerfed without him losing any of what I love about him and Ryu with new routes and new oki is good shit. I hope we get news faster than 3 or 4 months but I loved the game yesterday, I love it and am super excited today, I can't wait for the future. Very satisfied customer.
Finally, a balance patch for Street Fighter 6! However this is not "the" patch. Season 2 patch will be in the future, and its gonna be much more significant than this one. Not to say there's nothing here, but don't expect sweeping game changers, this is more of a "get you by" patch until Season 2 hits. Full patch notes are in the video description if you wanna check that out and ill say whats here is good, but really wish some of the lesser characters like Honda and Lily got like, anything. That all said give the vid a watch, like if ya liked it, and lets talk patch stuff!
I watched a couple of other vids on the patch and you were the only one thay highlighted the cool stuff all players get. Especially the worldwide play. Thats amazing! Thanks for the high quality vids and the extra content.
Yeah definately Lily for sure
I like the developer note on Ryu's changes. "In a vacuum, Ryu seemed fine." Really reflected my thoughts on the character. It felt like they designed him first and then never got a second pass while they were designing the other characters, especially the shotos.
Honestly tho. Cause on paper he's great. Hits like a truck, good neutral, etc. But he just doesn't stack up. I honestly think that if they just make it so you can choose to spend your denjin charge rather than being forced to spend it, he will be perfect. All they gotta do is make it so you gotta hold the button for a frame when you do your fireballs/hashos to get the denjin version.
@sergiok6660 Ryu needs a rework on his buttons he whiffs stuff other people. Stop that his only needs denji crap. You don't want him better at all.
@bigfitts lol what? Ryu has alway been a stubby shoto. Giving him flexibility with denjin and keeping him hitting like a truck puts ryu in a good spot. He's never been a whiff punish machine lol
@sergiok6660 no he has not. Ken and him had the buttons with slight changes since the beginning. The change their med and heavy punch animation in Street Fighter 4 because of ken target combo. Then Capcom change them completely in sfv. But Ryu still had good hitbox and hurtbox until the nerf him in season 2 of sfv. They overturned Luke because of his pick rate was high in sfv because of how broken he was. He was going to be the main character of six.
@@sergiok6660 Stubby Ryu is an SFV invention.
He has the same range as Ken in all other games before that, they just had some unique normals, supers, and special properties depending on the game.
There is no reason Ryu should have shorter range than Ken who is more rushdown when range is typically associated with defensive play.
You compiling all the changes in a video is not going unappreciated. Thank you very much.
i cannot believe roofle chose the JP theme after all we've been through this weekend.
either a master troll attempt or he doesn't know
At least I don't have tmnt in my nightmares anymore
The suffering of JP's theme continues 😢
Jamie level 1 change also means he's +4(!) after doing the drink followup in the corner, meaning he can go for a meaty command grab or stMP
Yea Jamie's gonna be doing way more Lv1s
You can't go for meaty command grab on +4!! That would mean sweep TC gives you meaty command grab ahah. Command grab is frame 8, and if a throw hitbox and a strike hitbox (say, from a 4-framer) collide at the same frame, the strike will always win. stMP would trade with 4-framers on +4 which gives you trade combos
Did you mean LVL1 drink followup after a launch (like OD palm)? Cuz in that case, you're +7 which does give you meaty command grab/stMP mix!
@@grtfl_thankI thought throw beats strike now in SF6?
It’s a nice change but the frame changes don’t matter that much, it was already possible to framekill into meaty command grab or m.punch
@@Saskaruto16 nope. Throws can counterhit a strike's startup, but if they hit at the same time the strike wins. Think of the Ken throw loop nerfs - people say you "can't throw loop at +1" because at +1 throw loses to wake up 4-framer
I have to say the way you do these videos is unmatched by any other big fighting game youtuber/streamer I know. I also love that you really care about the story and customization aspects.
I agree with you too 😊
As a Zangief main glad to see a little love for my boy, but hoo man do I wish these changes were implemented 6 months ago.
man everyone does, we all love SF6 but almost nobody is onboard with their reticence on balance changes
@rooflemonger btw thanks for all your tireless work, brother.
@rooflemonger I think about ssbm and how the tier list has had changes in the past couple years despite being a 20 yr old game. I honestly agree with the sf team's decision to do yearly balances, allowing them to be really smart and delicate. However, to compensate they GOTTA have more event style stuff happening throughout the year. Because, hot take, but I think people miss the excitement of a balance changes more so than the changes themselves.
@@YourBestBudyhonestly I agree. Though I do wish the blatantly bottom tier characters would have gotten Love sooner
@@YourBestBudythe issue with comparisons to melee is how much depth of options there are compared to sf6/many 2d fighters. Characters are pretty locked in to their game plan and ability ceiling in sf6
And to think I might have to do exactly this again tomorrow for Mortal Kombat lol. Anyways yes Ed is now live! And THERE'S A LOT OF GORILLA STUFF TO TALK ABOUT NOW, first time in like 5 years or however long its been. Im gonna take a nap and then probably later tonight come up with an ed/gorilla/dolphin(there's a shadaloo dolphin now) video.
That'd be great. I skipped 5 entirely because I didn't like the roster on release an' heard bad things, so I don't know the lore of the legacy of Ed. I'm jus' happy I've got a boxer, even if it's not my main man Dudley (yet).
Ed can whiff punish JP's punch normals.
Look, I'm with you, we gotta have the gorilla and the dolphin. But don't lie, you know in your heart that we need the baby as a playable character. OR I'd settle for the gorilla carrying the baby, like Oro and his turtle.
If anyones played AKI they know the jab hitbox extension is HUGE. One of the biggest letdowns mid fight is missing her little 2/3 jab sequence that would link two combo “pieces” together and getting punished for it.
It was really finnicky and combos that in most situation worked simply didnt in some few others because the opponent would “drift away” from AKI’s reach.
so sometimes you needed to visually gauge the distance and try to compensate will one less jab or drop the combo altogether.
Agreed
Sometimes, I didn't even risk it, I'd just do one jab just to be safe
Ryu also has a buff on EX DP, as a two hit move only the first one would hit and it wouldn’t knock them off the ground so ryu would get punished heavily for making a right read. Now it knocks back even on the first hit, this is an important QOL change.
so glad they fixed that, it happens to me like once every two or sets lol
14:57
Slight mistake I noticed Roofle - the damage buff was only given to Denjin EX Hashogeki, but the combo you displayed here uses normal EX Hashogeki which was unchanged.
Regardless, thank you for the hard work as always!
woops, during that segment there was a bunch of noise outside(I live right besides a bar, so... drunks) and I re-recorded it a few times and I guess I forgot to apply denjin on that take lol my bad
Manon grappling with bread crumbs in this patch. Hopefully we get a full baguette in Season 2.
enjoyed the metaphor
these changes were huge. I have no doubt we're getting something major with the season, but buffed BMK is now a real tool, and the lvl2 quality of life is insanely nice.
We're low-mid tier at worst, Manon is doing fine, she's the best grappler by far.
Unpopular opinion but the Manon playerbase takes part in criminal downplaying. The community as a whole pretty much refuses to explore her more unusual options because the general consensus is that they're bad.
Spin is unnecessarily hard to use, but a truly invaluable tool. The attitude about the EX version is downright ridiculous. It's very situational, but it's power to negate mid pressure tools that are typically plus is insane. It's also the best answer to fireball > drive rush in the game. Ken's at my local literally don't use dragonlash against me anymore bc I got so good at EX spinning it.
Downplaying is how you get buffs. It’s dirty work but it gets results
@@DrSwazz why would you want to buffed unfairly? Don't you want your character to be balanced?
@@Windraesa The short answer is no.
The long answer is - practically speaking - the devs aren't going to "unfairly buff" a character, they're going to improve tools in a way that preserves character identity and makes the game plan more consistent. But downplaying is supposed to influence devs to revisit a character they weren't planning to revisit and realize the char is underperforming.
Thank you so much, you got a new subscriber. I'm new to fighting games, and there's a lot of things about frames, hitbox, etc that I don't know, so I didn't really understand the patch notes. This video made everything clear to me.
Knew you’d put up a video right quick. Still watching and still a fan, Roofle.
The fgc does not deserve the amount of work you put in to your videos man, i love it
Yes we do
Yo Roofle, thanks for the vid. Although you covered most of Ryu's changes, you missed a key buff to OD SRK. Previously, the first hit of OD SRK pushed the opponent back. Although this wasn't something seen a lot, Ryu players can tell you about the frustration with a distanced opponent getting hit out of range for the 2nd hit of the OD SRK (which lead to the opponent punishing the Ryu player). With the patch, the 1st hit now puts the opponent into a juggle state (think the effect of counter hit hasho) so if the Ryu player only connects the 1st hit of the OD SRK., the opponent isn't left in a position to punish them. Semy28 was testing and there maybe some niche applications where the move trades and allows the Ryu to punish but these may need further testing by the Ryu community.
So ig broski was wrong about a few things like the luke mp, I love when we have multiple people all investigating so we can compare notes and keep things straight
Oh noes, at 18m02 the JP theme starts...too soon after CCX ahahah
Loving these changes, never got to be active in a Fighting game when there was patches, so this is nice to see.
The buffs to Ryu is crazy! He always had ridiculous damage, but now he gets mix-ups too. He's really damn strong
Quick and detailed as always. And I love these timestamps! ^^
Can't wait for the guide for Ed, he sure feels...different and sort of complicated after playing months and months good old bread and butter shotos like Ken and Luke.
Thanks for explaining this patch. It's easier to understand when I see it.
You are the best Rooflemonger! You work so hard and we appreciate it!
In my restless dreams..I hear that song…The Plunderer..
I appreciate your efforts to go over with a thorough explanation. Thank you.
Thank you Roof. You put out some of the best guides, and very quickly at that
As a jamie main im popping off so hard at the new buffs. Having another drink that doesnt leave me negative feels like a dream
Commenting for the always kickass info and to boost this oonga boonga dudes content!
Your timestamp for DJ is wrong.
BUT - other than that, I really appreciate the timestamps. THanks for your hard work. It's very appreciated.
oh gimmie a min ill fix it
i am very happy with the ryu buffs as a lifelong ryu main😁
Awesome as always Roofle! The Ryu changes makes him more interesting for us player who get turned off by other too mechanic-complex characters.
I tried ED, I don't like him lol, he is like a Poorman's Dudley. Sad, we could have gotten Dudley but nope we got dollar store boxer Ed.
For the Season 2 Patch, I want Honda to get EX-Clap as an answer for EX Fireballs and cancelable into HHS without need of Buff; and get Fireball invul returns to his Sumo smash (Buttslam) like in SF2HF on the way up (if that's too much, maybe give to him on EX Sumo Smash (Buttslam)
Thank you for your service, Rooflemonger.
roofle deserves a full watch. Thanks for putting in the work, man. 👍🏽 you are appreciated.
Thank God this isn't the actual season 2 patch, I was gonna be so mad that Lily didn't get anything 😂
honda and lily changelist for season 2 better be 10 pages long
Oh wow, thank god. I know Kimberly won’t get a ton of changes either way, but I was getting salty
I agree. She needs a nerf
I don't think anyone will be untouched in the big one, even if it's only in that there will likely be a new mechanic in some way (making assumptions off my understanding of sfv over the years)
Shawty needs NERFS FR
Great vid! You sound like John C Reilly.
“Just don’t stay still, ya know”.
“Yes Papa Roofle!”
Ah damn, my lunch break is almost over. Gonna have to catch the rest of this later.
correction, for Ken, walking forward a bit after corner throw still gives strike throw mixup (this beats wake up mash jab), slightly harder but fairly consistent with a bit of practice
This is a very well done video that is easy to understand. Subbed.
Thank you for the insight and breakdown.
Roofle! The best to do it! Appreciate the uploads, keep up the work!
As a aki main i love how capcom is like man al ya need is a slightly better cr lp to compete with top tiers lol. But hey.... you can also ways be a lilly main lol
It's almost a nerf in some ways. They didn't alter the properties of up-chain so now you can hit confirm and actually whiff the combo if you're too far away from your opponent. We used to be able to confirm it mindlessly but now we have to pay attention to our distance.
@@236Doodad lol i noticed that yes but at least here and there we can poke to break momentum i guess. Lets hope the real balance patch will help us more
Great video as always! Commenting for the algorithm.
one thing to note about the ken changes, you can still beat 4 frames and throw loop with walk up throw instead of forward dash, you just have to manually time it. your coverage sort of implies this isnt the case, great video though!
yeah, but if you walk up and throw and they hit nothing, you lose and whiff cause the throw can't cover the range in time before their wakeup, that I did test out. Its not exactly something you should be aiming for
@@rooflemongerI think you got everything down, I’ve even seen some people say that now ken is in perfect heavy punch range so it doesn’t nerf him lol. He can’t follow up from that range if his meaty hits unless he uses drive cancel so yeah, many people don’t know what they want or have.
I hope the patch will make combo animations where Jamie lays on the groung before executing the kick/punch whatever gives him a drink. My manz needs some he'p!
The fact he made this video in a day is mind blowing
Picking cammy outfit 2 for the zangief section I see you 😂
Important thing to note about Jamie‘s lvl 1 is that you now get okie if you decide to go for the drink follow up. You’re now +4 instead of - 1. which is a nice change, you can either go for damage or you can go for a mix
These are some good changes for Ryu and Jamie! And I'm glad Rashid can anti air more consistently now.
But serously, nothing for Lily? Man...
Juri mains winning by virtue of going completely untouched.
LETS GOOOOOOOOOO!
Roofle had the AUDACITY to put the JP theme frame 1
Heh changes to amnesia and lariat but not the ones people wanted :P
Although not getting meter and 60% from an amnesia will be good too.
Thank you for your work Rooflemonger
Since this is the actual first gameplay patch since the sf launched I wanted to hear all of it but hearing you say how nice it is to have chapters I did actually hit the like button for all the other videos you included them in thank you
EDIT: UNLOCKED MATCHMAKING 😭😭😭
I am thinking about Zangief's new ability to cancel into a level 3 super, and still not sure how to think about it. It will make him better for sure, but it kind of removes the uniqueness of the super. If you play Zangief, what's the incentive to use raw level 3 post-patch? Sure, it's very dangerous since it can't be jumped out of after animation, but it's still a very risky guess. It feels like everyone will just try to hit-confirm it with OD Lariat now for guaranteed damage which kind of turns it into just one of the many homogeneous level 3 supers that just does a little extra damage. I guess time will tell.
Ryu&Jamie&Gief and AKI eat good in this patch.,
Why'd you put JP's theme starting at the Ken section lol. You're giving me Capcom Cup PTSD
People have been BEGGING for expanded matching since day one. Capcom releases expanded matching and I find out not through their patch notes, not through their twitter... but through Rooflemonger. That is... actually very on-brand for Capcom, lol. 😆
Roofle thank you for the time you spent making this video!
Incredibly thankful for this
most iconic intro phrase ever
just drop a like yall pay the toll for this insane amount of work
Not until he stops the creepy intro. Until then, AdBlock.
@@SonicMegaKinglol the creepy intro is one of the best parts. cant watch a roofle video with out singing along to the “hello and welcome”
@@SonicMegaKing You must be fun at parties
@@SonicMegaKingThe intros will continue, as will your weakness. Know you are in the turbo minority and should be ashamed of yourself.
Important to note with Jamie is that his Drink follow up from his SA1 used to be -1 ON HIT so yea that extra 5 frames of KD is very nice
though unfortunately it did remove his auto-timed meaty cr.mp/meaty tenshin oki after non-drink level 1 :(
Always good videos from you,
Lots of changes seem to make sense. Also, YAY no Juri nerfs :D
Daannggg no Kimberly changes!? thats a bummer
Had to come back to the source where I learned about the JP cr.HP nerf, cause I've seen FAR too many people saying it was too much... Which my gut instict says is just wrong???
Makes me wanna go thru and test other anti-air normals and see how it now stacks up against the competition (video idea perhaps?)
18:40 that was pretty important for me as a new player 😮
wait monger is also in Ontario? damn look forward to playing one day!
I live in a remote out of the way town, not exactly toronto lol
@@rooflemonger at least out of the way is not middle of nowhere. shoutout to fellow Canadians for great content!
JP Theme in the background gave me Cup X PTSD....
Glad to see they fixed some of the issues with Manon's lvl2
Plot twist, the main villian of the sf6 story is luke and his cr.medp
Rooflemonger must be cooking some enormous guide for Tekken 8, long time no see 😅 but seriously although I don't play other fighting games (how do you guys keep up with it?!) I appreciate each of your videos, maybe someday I will give SF a serious try
tekken patch drops tomorrow so ill do all the coverage on that then start the steve guide
Finally some good fucking food
Hope they fix Juri’s dive kick. A lot of times follow-up kicks whiff leaving you upen for huge punish since she takes so long to land.
actually essential video
Yes, they're small, but I love the buffs to AKI.
Im so glad i get to go outside of my area. Im looking forward to getting my bitt kicked in no less that 3 different languages.
Thank you!
Ryu mains eating good today
Wow, I'm happy for all the Jamie players, those changes seem dope. And that's coming from someone who absolutely hates Jamie xD
Great info and vid! Thank you!
I like how SF6 gets a really great, much needed, and carefully thought-out mini balance patch right alongside T8's latest patch that is setting game discussion on fire by buffing King, nerfing Leroy, and leaving Jun, Dragunov and Xiaoyu pretty much untouched
Ryu mains crying things might actually be good for them. These changes really motivate me to play more!
The ryu buffs are amazing.
@@MrShinTensei They really are and they thankfully also really make his play-style feel unique compared to previous iterations. Hashogeki about to be move of the year for me
Bottom 5 got buffs:
Jamie, Ryu, Aki, Manon, Zangief
Top 5 got nerfs:
Ken, Luke, JP, DeeJay, Chun Li
Bug fixes for Dhalsim and Blanka, but Rashid got a nerf and a buff.
I bet that system wide super armor fix is a buff for Marisa.
They could have at least fixed both Lily's and Kimberly's invincible reversals. But that would elivate them a whole tier. The only characters moving a tier from this patch is Ryu and JP. Ryu is no longer bottom 5, and for a couple months, Honda will take Ryu'a place in the bottom 5, and JP is definitely no longer top 3 maybe not even top 5 anymore, maybe.
You're the first person I've seen to say Ryu is bottom 5
@@cosmic5665 you haven't been looking I guess
Ryu was never that bad
32:32 Alright that's cool! 32:36 Yeah that makes sense
Did you... choose cammy to showcase zangief to portray how much better his physique is?
Thank you Rooflemonger!
Jp and Ryu player. A great day. People calling jp nerfed without him losing any of what I love about him and Ryu with new routes and new oki is good shit. I hope we get news faster than 3 or 4 months but I loved the game yesterday, I love it and am super excited today, I can't wait for the future. Very satisfied customer.
The fact they didn't do anything for Kimberly is crazy what Capcom got against Kimberly?
Jamie’s auto drink after throw can just be done by holding either LP or LK. You don’t have to hold LP+LK
yeah but do you wanna half ass it or go for the gusto, jamie would appreciate if you held both buttons
That mp was popping everything ..
ty roofle
The jamie change was exactly what i want
Ryu and Jamie are definitely the winners of this patch
Ngl...i didnt know Luke had an air flash knuckle lol
Would love to see Honda nerf on headbutt/ butt slam and buffs in his buttons and command normals.
youre a legend man
REJOICE RYU PLAYERS. We will no longer be pushovers
Man bro
thank👏you👏uncle👏roooofle!
Thanks again
I main Honda and Ed.
On the one hand, Ed is here hooray. On the other hand, Honda is staring at the buff list starving.