We flew Helio Courier into the Alaska Arctic for a raft trip with my 90 year uncle for a raft trip on the Kongakut River with his Son (MD) and daughter (PhD) . After ten days on the river we extracted in snow, fog and wind ten miles south of the Arctic Ocean in a Helio Courier. The pilot stayed overnight because of weather and flew two of the party of eight out, but on returning declared the winds through the passes in the Brooks Ranges and the fog were not safe for flying, so we waited for several hours. Then our Athabaskan pilot whose name I have forgotten, ferried us out in threes to an intermediate air strip still 300 miles north of Fairbanks. He stayed with us there, along with a pile of camping baggage, until the twin engine Cessna arrived to pick us up. Grizzlies had been seen on the area in the immediate time frame so our pilot remained to keep the plane as a safe haven should they appear again. They did not, and the plane to Fairbanks appeared; we loaded the cargo and our selves and droned back to Fairbanks. The airport there is probably unique having three separate landing areas for three disparate types of aircraft. Fairbanks has a commercial air liner capable runway, plus a gravel runway for small planes landing in the winter snow, the gravel giving some purchase. There is also a water landing strip(canal?) to allow float planes to land. I worked in military aerospace for most of my career, mostly on software systems, Sorry to ramble, but the Helio Courier was a great experience for us, especially since we flew it on my wife's 60th birthday and it brought us back safely.
I suspect the Helio Stallion simply was a bit over the top. The 400HP Helio Super Courier certainly was, a Canadian H400 owner that that crashed his airplane in my country (Iceland) refused to sell it to us - he was going to ship it back to Canada and rebuild it as a "regular" H295! I have noticed that a given airframe tends to be sensitive to the horsepower available. A 160HP C172 is benign, a 195HP constant-speed-prop C172XP is more heavy-handed and a FR172-210 (a French-built Cessna 172 with a 6-cylinder 210HP engine and a big, fat constant-speed prop) has a noticeably heavier elevator. Pitch stability seems to be severely affected by increased horsepower. My first taildragger was the H295 Helio Super Courier. It was only when I was unceremoniously dumped into the pilot's seat of a C180 that I realized that the Helio is not a run-of-the-mill taildragger! Every single taildragger I have had the privilege to fly since then is bloody EASY! The Helio is an honest handful, partly due to the main gear being located so far forward that it simply CANNOT be nosed over! (the tailwheel load of an EMPTY H295 is 300kg (660lb). Land it in a foot-deep mud field and it will simply stop instantly. No nose-over tendency. You will have a hell of a time dragging the 4000lb carcass onto an area where you can take off again, but airframe/landing gear integrity will NOT be a problem! Now a retired airline pilot, I am privately flying (in a private capacity) a Helio Super Courier into the Hornstrandir area of Iceland. I also have an 64hp Avid Flyer we built in 1987 to play with, and it is a toss-up which is more fun! The runway requirements are uncannily similar (a 450lb plaything vs. a 4000lb fat hog). The Avid Flyer us used to safely "pioneer" new landing areas, the H295 is used for transport...
Hey Juan... just checked my log books, I made jumps# 59&60 from a " Super " Helio Stallion at Skydive Greene County Ohio on 5/7/88. 12 jumpers to 12,500 ft. in less than 10min. The plane would be on the ground loading more jumpers while the first group was just landing! That plane did everything that the Pilatus Porter could do, only better! The pilot seemed to enjoy pointing out all the patched bullet holes in the fuselage! Awesome Aircraft!! Thanks for sharing and keep em coming! Blue Skies brotherman!
I worked on a Helio Courier that was formerly a JARS plane (Missionaries). Got it fixed up with some new hoses and a transponder, then went for a ride with the pilot who owned it. He forgot to lock the tailwheel and we did a ground loop on roll out. I told him to ask the tower what they thought of that landing and they replied, "We almost fell off our chairs laughing." The main wheels had a pivot feature too, so you could better handle a crosswind. I also thought it was strange how the leading edge slats would come out one at a time, however they pleased.
In 1986 I made a number of jumps out of Jim Perry's Helio Stallion at Batavia ,NY. Myself and a few others found out he was heading to Bromont, Quebec so we drove there and got lots more jumps out of the Helio & a Twin Otter. The Helio was an amazing 'Jumpship' and Jim was an amazing pilot.
My sister used to skydive out of the Orange One you referred to back in the day at the Perris CA drop zone. We went to watch her make her hundredth jump one weekend. All went well. The next weekend, the plane crashed. That gave all of us chills........RIP
JUAN,,HI, At an airshow @ TEB, about 68, /9 there was a demonstration flight, probably a Couriur , in NOTHIN FLAT, it jumped up into flight, but that pilot did a VERTICAL CORKSCREW, to a few thousand feet, then dit the SAME IN REVERSE, TO THE GROUND, truly amazing , I had seen these in missionary work years ago. , now I only see QUEST KODIACs being used. Cheers 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Used to fly with a Helio Courier driver who flew it in the back country for upwards of 50 years. An engineer by trade, he's also a skilled machinist and fabricator - which obviously helps, Just seems HC drivers are more faithful to their hardware than most - and like to say "If it had claws, you could land it on a fence post." He could do some pretty awesome stuff with it I couldn't do in a Cub. Great to see "aviator Pete" back on deck.
I learn something interesting from every one of your videos, Juan. And I’m 63 and have been around aviation for 50 years; CAP, USAF, GA, and Southwest Airlines. Very cool video, and great seeing Pete again too. Thanks!
Fabulous aircraft. Back in the 70s there were three in the US and as you pointed out, used for flying jumpers. I was fortunate to make several jumps from them.
I got a bunch of jumps out of Mike Mullins Stallion before it crashed in 1990 at the USS Alabama battleship park in my home town. Since I was in the towing business in Mobile Alabama at the time, I recovered and stashed the crashed bird for Mike within 7 hours.
I was a friend of the chief pilot who flew in the Stallion back when Jim Jannard owned and restored it. Amazing plane that YOU HAD TO CONSTANTLY FLY! Thanks Juan...
Beautiful deHavilland Beaver at the end! The Stallion is impressive too but the Beaver is one of my dream aircrafts,,,,someday. Thanks ffor sharing with us Juan!
Wow !! I'm glad at least one Stallion survives !! First one I saw was at the National Maintenance and Operations Show at Reading, PA . I recall a Courier operating out of strip along the Pequest River in N.J. many years' back .
Back in my college days, I work as a lineman(Ramp Rat) at HUF. A Helio-Stallion landed, taxied to the terminal. Pilot had a cup of coffee after dropping of his passengers. When he was ready, he cranked up and called for take-off. The tower gave him taxi instructions. After a VERY SHORT time, the pilot said he was ready for take-off. Again the tower gave taxi instructions to the runway. He acknowledge that and he was ready for take-off NOW. The tower cleared him for take-off, meaning after he got to the runway. Instead the pilot whipped the plane around and took-off from the ramp. The wind "T" was about 300 feet from the terminal. The stallion was about 100 ft in the air by the time he got to the wind "T". The tower chewed the pilot out but nothing they could do as they had 'cleared him for take-off'. What a sight to see
The orange Stallion visited my wife’s fathers airstrip in the Esparto area back in the day, and I recall that it’s owner/pilot at the time commented that it was “a bear to fly”.
The first turbine aircraft I ever flew in was a HS. We were jumping out of it. It's like a mini-Porter. It had a glass bottom and pilot never used the runway. He just launched from the grass off the taxiway. It was off the ground faster than some kit planes. I love that airplane.
This particular airplane I have known for many years. It was hangared in AZ for many years and only recently sold. It makes me happy to see it actually operating.
As a kid growing up 40 miles from the factory I never saw a Stallion. My dad leased a courier and factory pilot Larry Montgomery was a friend of my dads. I never saw Larry use our runway. He just blasted off from the ramp in front of our hangar.
Lol. I see ya Cap'n PiP. You're growing fast. Soon you won't need to jump up for us to get a glance. Thanks JB and for giving us a chuckle with PiP hoping to get his face in there. Take care and fly safe. 🤟🏽🖖🏽
Had a ride in a standard Courier once. What a trip for a low timer. The slats were very fascinating...one in, one out in a slow turn. Pilot is now gone. Thanks, Ed. NH
I just watched an interview with Raymond Boulanger. He recalled flying these in and out of Cambodia back in the 70s. Hauling people and packages of suspect origin... I didn't realize so few were built. Nice to see one still flying.
Nice playing sounds like it had a strong engine. Yes we saw you Pete good to see you I hope you're doing well and thank you for the video it was nice God bless🙏🛩
I have more than several jumps from the orange stallion that you mentioned way back in the late 80's and early 90's in Warm Springs Georgia. I remember the pilot telling us what a beast that airplane was to fly. Back then he would use LORAN for jump run spotting at altitude.
I saw one at a skydiving jump site in Arkansas near Memphis in the early 1980’s run by a FedEx pilot Mike Mullens. It was an astounding aircraft. It would beat the jumpers down to the ground and with reverse feathering land crossways on the runway which was not even 50 yards across. And do it out of a steep dive. It was a sight to behold.
There is/ was a Courier on floats flying to Catalina. "If the Courier had talons, it could land on a fence post." Back in the 60s we flew into Catalina on Grumman seaplane, it was awesome.
I wish I would have gone out to the airport today. I could have finally gotten to see the Stallion and could have met you also. I live in Burns my good friend owns the Beaver at the end of your video.
Juan, I believe the Pima County Sheriff's Department inTucson had a modified Stallion up until a couple or three years ago. I don't know why or if it was retired. It had a special muffler to keep it very quiet as it was used for night patrols at low levels. Also spotlight and FLIR.
"runaway pitch trim" what does that mean? on the prop...? how did it go about bringing the plane down and killing someone? Forgive me if this is obvious and a stupid question, relatively new to aviation and just trying to learn. =) Edit - just rewatched it, so pitch in the longitudinal plane, meaning it forced him to nose down, likely into the dirt, reguardless of his stick inputs...? yikes.
@@blancolirio ugh, oh man, what a horror show... thanks for the answer, but thanks SO much for the awesome content Juan =) keep making Pete's life totally phenomenal eh?
Surley this is a derivertive of the Fairchild AU-23 Peacemaker.Now manufactured as Pilatus PC-6 Porter Switerland developed for STOL in the military theatre? Interesting to fly one of these as the current version uses reverse thrust on the prop controls.
Slick looking aircraft. Intriguing to see a last of remaining flyable aircraft. Also. Turbo props make the most unique sound in flight in that it’s mostly the propeller makeing the sound.
Oh Great....Now Mike Patey is going to make one of these into another super STOL golly gee Holy Smoke dream machine next! LOL (kidding) Cheers from Winnipeg.
I just thought this thing is not _that_ far in spirit from what draco was. A slightly larger, heavy duty, STOL capable aircraft with a turbo prop to get that power and climb performance.
Tim Greene out of North Carolina owns one. Interesting story aboutthis one. If you can get a copy of the August 2003 issue of Private Pilot they have an excellent cover story about it. This one was the only civilian version made. Main difference between this one and the military versions was this one had control yokes and the military ones had control sticks. Also the air intake on this one is different than the military versions. I saw this plane in Oshkosh a number of years ago and had a chance to talk to the owner.
@@terryklun498. The founder was Jim Jannard, also the founder of Red Corp which was purposed to design and develop the RED digital cinema camera system. He is of that age where he should kick back and enjoy a retirement but if he was ever so motivated, an improved Helio would surely be back in production.
I have 100 hrs in a Helio HT-295 Courier, which is another rare Courier derivative. Scary to fly in strong winds and turbulence. IIRC, our airplane had a maximum demonstrated cross-wind component of 8 knots. That said, she could take off at MGTOW and clear a 50 foot obstacle in 630 feet.
PS.Allec Joshebays ( however you spell it?) channel has just done an upload of the airlion MAX tragedy.Scary stuff just watching.Those poor pilots were merely passengers.
There was one in KAWM West Memphis Arkansas doing touch and gos in the summer of 1986 or 1987. I had heard that a FedEx pilot owned it. Whoever was flying it was having a difficult time with it. It almost ground looped a few times.
The Stallion is a STOL aircraft, meaning it can take off and land in very short distances, BUT ALSO because it's so rare, the only way *you* can have one is if you *stole* it! -- G, D, RVF!
Counter-insurgency, not counter-intelligence.
Yes, counter-intelligence seemed both counter-intuitive and counter-productive!🤔
I bet counter-intelligence was their nickname.
"There will be no fighting in the War room"...;-)
@@blancolirio So many jokes but not enough time.
I'm optimistic that increased online shopping will reduce the need for counter intelligence.
We flew Helio Courier into the Alaska Arctic for a raft trip with my 90 year uncle for a raft trip on the Kongakut River with his Son (MD) and daughter (PhD) . After ten days on the river we extracted in snow, fog and wind ten miles south of the Arctic Ocean in a Helio Courier. The pilot stayed overnight because of weather and flew two of the party of eight out, but on returning declared the winds through the passes in the Brooks Ranges and the fog were not safe for flying, so we waited for several hours. Then our Athabaskan pilot whose name I have forgotten, ferried us out in threes to an intermediate air strip still 300 miles north of Fairbanks. He stayed with us there, along with a pile of camping baggage, until the twin engine Cessna arrived to pick us up. Grizzlies had been seen on the area in the immediate time frame so our pilot remained to keep the plane as a safe haven should they appear again. They did not, and the plane to Fairbanks appeared; we loaded the cargo and our selves and droned back to Fairbanks. The airport there is probably unique having three separate landing areas for three disparate types of aircraft. Fairbanks has a commercial air liner capable runway, plus a gravel runway for small planes landing in the winter snow, the gravel giving some purchase. There is also a water landing strip(canal?) to allow float planes to land. I worked in military aerospace for most of my career, mostly on software systems, Sorry to ramble, but the Helio Courier was a great experience for us, especially since we flew it on my wife's 60th birthday and it brought us back safely.
Enjoyed your story!
Loved the story. One can't go to Alaska without some sort of adventure.
I suspect the Helio Stallion simply was a bit over the top. The 400HP Helio Super Courier certainly was, a Canadian H400 owner that that crashed his airplane in my country (Iceland) refused to sell it to us - he was going to ship it back to Canada and rebuild it as a "regular" H295!
I have noticed that a given airframe tends to be sensitive to the horsepower available. A 160HP C172 is benign, a 195HP constant-speed-prop C172XP is more heavy-handed and a FR172-210 (a French-built Cessna 172 with a 6-cylinder 210HP engine and a big, fat constant-speed prop) has a noticeably heavier elevator. Pitch stability seems to be severely affected by increased horsepower.
My first taildragger was the H295 Helio Super Courier. It was only when I was unceremoniously dumped into the pilot's seat of a C180 that I realized that the Helio is not a run-of-the-mill taildragger! Every single taildragger I have had the privilege to fly since then is bloody EASY! The Helio is an honest handful, partly due to the main gear being located so far forward that it simply CANNOT be nosed over! (the tailwheel load of an EMPTY H295 is 300kg (660lb). Land it in a foot-deep mud field and it will simply stop instantly. No nose-over tendency. You will have a hell of a time dragging the 4000lb carcass onto an area where you can take off again, but airframe/landing gear integrity will NOT be a problem!
Now a retired airline pilot, I am privately flying (in a private capacity) a Helio Super Courier into the Hornstrandir area of Iceland. I also have an 64hp Avid Flyer we built in 1987 to play with, and it is a toss-up which is more fun! The runway requirements are uncannily similar (a 450lb plaything vs. a 4000lb fat hog). The Avid Flyer us used to safely "pioneer" new landing areas, the H295 is used for transport...
Hey Juan... just checked my log books, I made jumps# 59&60 from a " Super " Helio Stallion at Skydive Greene County Ohio on 5/7/88. 12 jumpers to 12,500 ft. in less than 10min. The plane would be on the ground loading more jumpers while the first group was just landing! That plane did everything that the Pilatus Porter could do, only better! The pilot seemed to enjoy pointing out all the patched bullet holes in the fuselage! Awesome Aircraft!! Thanks for sharing and keep em coming! Blue Skies brotherman!
I worked on a Helio Courier that was formerly a JARS plane (Missionaries). Got it fixed up with some new hoses and a transponder, then went for a ride with the pilot who owned it. He forgot to lock the tailwheel and we did a ground loop on roll out. I told him to ask the tower what they thought of that landing and they replied, "We almost fell off our chairs laughing." The main wheels had a pivot feature too, so you could better handle a crosswind. I also thought it was strange how the leading edge slats would come out one at a time, however they pleased.
In 1986 I made a number of jumps out of Jim Perry's Helio Stallion at Batavia ,NY. Myself and a few others found out he was heading to Bromont, Quebec so we drove there and got lots more jumps out of the Helio & a Twin Otter. The Helio was an amazing 'Jumpship' and Jim was an amazing pilot.
1950s radio station used a HC mornibgs to report traffic. It was kept at Don Scot, Ohio Stats' airport OSU. Takeoff was from between 'T' hangers.
My sister used to skydive out of the Orange One you referred to back in the day at the Perris CA drop zone. We went to watch her make her hundredth jump one weekend. All went well. The next weekend, the plane crashed. That gave all of us chills........RIP
I believe my good friend Jimmy Lowe was flying the one with the runaway pitch trim when he lost his life... wehad lots of flying adventures together
JUAN,,HI, At an airshow @ TEB, about 68, /9 there was a demonstration flight, probably a Couriur , in NOTHIN FLAT, it jumped up into flight, but that pilot did a VERTICAL CORKSCREW, to a few thousand feet, then dit the SAME IN REVERSE, TO THE GROUND, truly amazing , I had seen these in missionary work years ago. , now I only see QUEST KODIACs being used. Cheers 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Used to fly with a Helio Courier driver who flew it in the back country for upwards of 50 years. An engineer by trade, he's also a skilled machinist and fabricator - which obviously helps, Just seems HC drivers are more faithful to their hardware than most - and like to say "If it had claws, you could land it on a fence post." He could do some pretty awesome stuff with it I couldn't do in a Cub.
Great to see "aviator Pete" back on deck.
I learn something interesting from every one of your videos, Juan. And I’m 63 and have been around aviation for 50 years; CAP, USAF, GA, and Southwest Airlines. Very cool video, and great seeing Pete again too. Thanks!
Fabulous aircraft. Back in the 70s there were three in the US and as you pointed out, used for flying jumpers. I was fortunate to make several jumps from them.
I got a bunch of jumps out of Mike Mullins Stallion before it crashed in 1990 at the USS Alabama battleship park in my home town.
Since I was in the towing business in Mobile Alabama at the time, I recovered and stashed the crashed bird for Mike within 7 hours.
Yep, did a bunch of boogie till you puke jumps out of the stallion and King Aire with Mike. Ran around with Charlie when he finally got old enough.
I was a friend of the chief pilot who flew in the Stallion back when Jim Jannard owned and restored it. Amazing plane that YOU HAD TO CONSTANTLY FLY! Thanks Juan...
During the V/N war i saw many of these fly in and out of NKP Thailand Vientiane Laos ect. Very little rollout. Amazing A/C.
As were our A1's
Had some stop by Vinh Long too but mostly there were Pilatus Porters.
Saw these a few times at Quan Loi & Bu Dop .
Beautiful deHavilland Beaver at the end! The Stallion is impressive too but the Beaver is one of my dream aircrafts,,,,someday. Thanks ffor sharing with us Juan!
Wow !! I'm glad at least one Stallion survives !! First one I saw was at the National Maintenance and Operations Show at Reading, PA . I recall a Courier operating out of strip along the Pequest River in N.J. many years' back .
Back in my college days, I work as a lineman(Ramp Rat) at HUF. A Helio-Stallion landed, taxied to the terminal. Pilot had a cup of coffee after dropping of his passengers. When he was ready, he cranked up and called for take-off. The tower gave him taxi instructions. After a VERY SHORT time, the pilot said he was ready for take-off. Again the tower gave taxi instructions to the runway. He acknowledge that and he was ready for take-off NOW. The tower cleared him for take-off, meaning after he got to the runway. Instead the pilot whipped the plane around and took-off from the ramp. The wind "T" was about 300 feet from the terminal. The stallion was about 100 ft in the air by the time he got to the wind "T". The tower chewed the pilot out but nothing they could do as they had 'cleared him for take-off'. What a sight to see
Juan. I think your son will have a lot of nice memories from his childhood.👍🏼 Cool plane. Nice camo livery!
Juan, I have seen the other two and have pictures if you want to see them.
Good Monday Morning from New Zealand, Thanks for your great stallion video, thanks for sharing, have a wonderful week
The orange Stallion visited my wife’s fathers airstrip in the Esparto area back in the day, and I recall that it’s owner/pilot at the time commented that it was “a bear to fly”.
The first turbine aircraft I ever flew in was a HS. We were jumping out of it. It's like a mini-Porter. It had a glass bottom and pilot never used the runway. He just launched from the grass off the taxiway. It was off the ground faster than some kit planes. I love that airplane.
@@larmar People who like airplane content. Dolt.
Mighty DHC 2 sightings make my day, thank you Juan for adding it to the end cheers from Canada
There are 3 on the FAA registry, and all the certificates are in order. One is in NC, one in AZ, and this one from Oregon.
There are only 3 in the world, of 19 that were built
Interesting. Translation from Deutsch , the owner is Hell's Nursery. Wow.
Fantastic bird.
This particular airplane I have known for many years. It was hangared in AZ for many years and only recently sold. It makes me happy to see it actually operating.
Reminds me of Draco a bit, can't wait to see her reborn!
As a kid growing up 40 miles from the factory I never saw a Stallion. My dad leased a courier and factory pilot Larry Montgomery was a friend of my dads. I never saw Larry use our runway. He just blasted off from the ramp in front of our hangar.
Hahahaha 👍😂
I saw another one (a black one) operational on a ramp somewhere on the east coast a few years back.
There was a black one in the hangar in Clemson, SC a few years back. Not flying status I believe.
Lol. I see ya Cap'n PiP. You're growing fast. Soon you won't need to jump up for us to get a glance.
Thanks JB and for giving us a chuckle with PiP hoping to get his face in there.
Take care and fly safe. 🤟🏽🖖🏽
Had a ride in a standard Courier once. What a trip for a low timer. The slats were very fascinating...one in, one out in a slow turn. Pilot is now gone. Thanks, Ed. NH
Beautiful aircraft Juan.
Lt pete wants some facetime
With the Stallion. Safe travels you two.. ...
I always in joy your videos !
And
I always have a smile on my face
At the end of the video!!
Thanks for providing information.
thank you for the look see
I just watched an interview with Raymond Boulanger. He recalled flying these in and out of Cambodia back in the 70s. Hauling people and packages of suspect origin... I didn't realize so few were built. Nice to see one still flying.
packages of suspect origin? Do you mean drugs and money?
@@cam545 Yes. It was opium I believe.
Nice playing sounds like it had a strong engine. Yes we saw you Pete good to see you I hope you're doing well and thank you for the video it was nice God bless🙏🛩
When I worked at Grand Canyon Airlines we had a Helio Stallion. It's hard to believe there is only one left!
I thought there was 2, This one and a black one.🤔
I love seeing Pete in your great content! You are one cool dad!!
That aircraft is gorgeous
Now this is one plane I would love to fly
I was today years old when I found out about this bird. Thanks for sharing this.
I have more than several jumps from the orange stallion that you mentioned way back in the late 80's and early 90's in Warm Springs Georgia. I remember the pilot telling us what a beast that airplane was to fly. Back then he would use LORAN for jump run spotting at altitude.
Beautiful plane
I saw one at a skydiving jump site in Arkansas near Memphis in the early 1980’s run by a FedEx pilot Mike Mullens. It was an astounding aircraft. It would beat the jumpers down to the ground and with reverse feathering land crossways on the runway which was not even 50 yards across. And do it out of a steep dive. It was a sight to behold.
I remember seeing those flying when I was in SE Asia they don’t waste any time getting off the ground.
Grew up flying with my grandfather and his friend flying the Courier on floats. What a cool aircraft this stallion is
Which Helio was it?
There is/ was a Courier on floats flying to Catalina. "If the Courier had talons, it could land on a fence post."
Back in the 60s we flew into Catalina on Grumman seaplane, it was awesome.
What a beast... Love it 👍
Pete is going to wind up knocking someone out if he keeps on throwing those punches around lol
I wish I would have gone out to the airport today. I could have finally gotten to see the Stallion and could have met you also.
I live in Burns my good friend owns the Beaver at the end of your video.
Juan, I believe the Pima County Sheriff's Department inTucson had a modified Stallion up until a couple or three years ago. I don't know why or if it was retired. It had a special muffler to keep it very quiet as it was used for night patrols at low levels. Also spotlight and FLIR.
Pima had a modified helio courier
Ron is right!
@@helio295 Steve Murray who owned Aero Pacific in Carlsbad California did some work on their Helio before they did a turbine conversion.
Nice find! Great History and would be Fun, Fun, Fun to Fly! Thx, Thumbs Up!
Hey Juan. Great shorty intro. Love seeing Lt. Pete with on these adventures. AND wearing a Breitling Cap like Dad… well done team
I have seen some cool birds, but she is awesome.
It's LOUD!
"runaway pitch trim" what does that mean? on the prop...? how did it go about bringing the plane down and killing someone?
Forgive me if this is obvious and a stupid question, relatively new to aviation and just trying to learn. =)
Edit - just rewatched it, so pitch in the longitudinal plane, meaning it forced him to nose down, likely into the dirt, reguardless of his stick inputs...? yikes.
You got it.
@@blancolirio ugh, oh man, what a horror show... thanks for the answer, but thanks SO much for the awesome content Juan =) keep making Pete's life totally phenomenal eh?
Surley this is a derivertive of the Fairchild AU-23 Peacemaker.Now manufactured as Pilatus PC-6 Porter Switerland developed for STOL in the military theatre? Interesting to fly one of these as the current version uses reverse thrust on the prop controls.
Turboprop STOL aircraft, wow. Take off roll minus 10 feet?
The late Steve Snyder owned one in NJ for skydiving in the mid 70s
That's very cool!!
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Slick looking aircraft. Intriguing to see a last of remaining flyable aircraft.
Also. Turbo props make the most unique sound in flight in that it’s mostly the propeller makeing the sound.
I love turbos!!!!!
That looks like a 195 at the end, there where the future pilot Pete is admiring the bird.
DH Beaver. Where are they ? Fairbanks?😁
@@tgmccoy1556 Says Eastern Oregon in the video description, if that's any help.
@@lizj5740 I know been there I was kidding.
@@tgmccoy1556 Sorry. Humour-antenna must be down this morning. ;-)
@@lizj5740 7:45 pm here.
North East Oregon.
I inherited my sense of humor from my Cowboy
Pop.🤠
Shades of Air America...
Cousin to the Palatus porter....
Hey Juan tanker action
out of KLGD Joseph canyon near WA/OR border. Haven't looked at the sit report yet..
Very cool Juan, but once again Pete steals the show hahaha.
Thanks Juan! 👍
Another apparently rare plane I thought was more common than they are. Used to be one at Grand Canyon Airport I believe used for air tours.
Oh Great....Now Mike Patey is going to make one of these into another super STOL golly gee Holy Smoke dream machine next! LOL (kidding) Cheers from Winnipeg.
I just thought this thing is not _that_ far in spirit from what draco was. A slightly larger, heavy duty, STOL capable aircraft with a turbo prop to get that power and climb performance.
There are two more that I know of in addition to this one that are still flying. They only made around 20 of them.
Where are the other two?
Tim Greene out of North Carolina owns one. Interesting story aboutthis one. If you can get a copy of the August 2003 issue of Private Pilot they have an excellent cover story about it. This one was the only civilian version made. Main difference between this one and the military versions was this one had control yokes and the military ones had control sticks. Also the air intake on this one is different than the military versions. I saw this plane in Oshkosh a number of years ago and had a chance to talk to the owner.
Also I do have alot of pictures of this one.
The other one I don't know a whole lot about. I believe it's based out west somewhere. Supposedly the founder of Oakley sunglasses owns that one.
@@terryklun498. The founder was Jim Jannard, also the founder of Red Corp which was purposed to design and develop the RED digital cinema camera system. He is of that age where he should kick back and enjoy a retirement but if he was ever so motivated, an improved Helio would surely be back in production.
Great to see Pete stop short when approaching the prop.. no surprise there oc.
Would look great on a pair of floats!
Geee only 1 left. I remember J Perry he had his quit on takeoff once back in the 80s. Interesting plane power levers both sides
Tom, I don’t understand “power levers both sides”. Would you please explain? Thanks!
Looks like Pete is more interested in that kinder gentler recip plane. I never saw these Helios in Vietnam. Covert no doubt.
Looks like crazy performance-oriented
Okay Mike Patey, add tip tanks to SCRAPPY
Love it.
That one has a stick as opposed to yoke....My Dad Edward Sampson designed the modification when he was Chief of Design there in the late 60s and 70s
If it has a runaway pitch, this would explain why there is only one left.
Your channel is interesting. I like aviation since growing up in a flight pattern.
Draco II
Very rare indeed.
very cool.
Wow! So cool!
Also interesting that the prop spins in both directions 😉
hahaha =)
Was that the plane in the movie Air America?
Cool Bird!!!
Don't let Mike Patey anywhere near that!! If he did, I don't know what you would get, but it would be even more rare!
Runaway pitch trim. Would like to read that docket/final.
Heilo airplanes made in Pittsburg Kansas just down the road from me........ Building is now a UPS local hub.....
I have 100 hrs in a Helio HT-295 Courier, which is another rare Courier derivative. Scary to fly in strong winds and turbulence. IIRC, our airplane had a maximum demonstrated cross-wind component of 8 knots. That said, she could take off at MGTOW and clear a 50 foot obstacle in 630 feet.
Nice looking airplane.
Runaway pitch trim.737 MAX. Hold my beer .
PS.Allec Joshebays ( however you spell it?) channel has just done an upload of the airlion MAX tragedy.Scary stuff just watching.Those poor pilots were merely passengers.
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Wasn’t that the one Tom cruise flew in his drug movie??
American made. Is the movie’s name.
There was one in KAWM West Memphis Arkansas doing touch and gos in the summer of 1986 or 1987. I had heard that a FedEx pilot owned it. Whoever was flying it was having a difficult time with it. It almost ground looped a few times.
Love it👍🏼
The Stallion is a STOL aircraft, meaning it can take off and land in very short distances, BUT ALSO because it's so rare, the only way *you* can have one is if you *stole* it! -- G, D, RVF!
Beauty!
The DH2 is like “whatever man”
😎 Cool.... Hey Juan 👋 Hey Pete 😎