Bridgerton season 3 : A MESS .. but not surprising

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  • @bubblesnfluff
    @bubblesnfluff 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +41

    Season 1 we got flashbacks for why Simon is the way he is.
    Season 2 we got flashback of Anthony witnessing his father’s death and his youngest sibling’s birth.
    Season 3 no flashbacks. We were just told “oh remember that” “oh I remember how we first met” if you are able to cast younger actors for seasons 1 and 2 why couldn’t they do it for season 3. Imagine how cute a little Penelope meeting little Colin.

    • @ULoveme495
      @ULoveme495 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      The writers this season were terrible

    • @tomixshile9502
      @tomixshile9502  23 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      THIS!!! 💯

    • @doomcomiing
      @doomcomiing 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      haven't actually seen any of the show just locked into video essays because i'm nosy & curious but having no flashbacks is an odd choice to me especially because penelope and colin are supposed to be childhood best friends like why would they not add flashback scenes that could add to their dynamic instead of just telling the audience things. i've fallen down a bit of a rabbit hole and i've seen so many people saying that they wished there were flashbacks because without them the romance & their relationship in general just didn't really come across and didn't feel as deep and seeing this comment and learning that there were flashbacks in the other two seasons makes the lack of them more confusing to me. i am SO sorry for this long yap just wanted to add to what you were saying based on what i've seen :]

  • @Aurora-lp9sn
    @Aurora-lp9sn 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +24

    The Bridgerton books are not so great to begin, and were only ever adapted to the screen because Shonda saw the potential somehow. Whoever she had writing for s1 and s2 is clearly not working for Shondaland anymore because s3 was so far below par I found myself wanting to skip scenes. So so disappointing when the pattern for success was clearly right in front of them after creating two highly successful seasons already!

  • @crystaleefyffe1230
    @crystaleefyffe1230 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    Jonothan Baily ACTED his ass off and carried that show, and it was so good to watch. Collin's lines are delivered with the same quality as a man ordering breakfast at Macdonalds. He doesn’t have leading him man quality.

  • @yasmeenw7227
    @yasmeenw7227 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +34

    I HATED anthony, thought he was an awful brother. Yet, season 2 really turned that around by showing us MORE of him.
    I LOVED Penelope, i do not justify her actions and dont think she shouldve ended up with collin. However, i was really looking forward to seeing her as a main character but the showrunners just kept her as a side character as well as collin!
    No one felt like a main character.
    Collin COULDVE been a more interesting character if they had just added more dialogue about his travels but they went so far with the brooding that it was boring.

    • @susannapapagno7996
      @susannapapagno7996 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      In order to make Colin a more compelling character, the writers needed to put us in his head a little more. All of those scenes of him brooding just made him look like a jerk. We, as the audience. we’re supposed to understand that he is processing the situation on his own. It would’ve been better if he processed a bit of what he was going through in conversation, whether it be with Pen or his siblings. We would’ve gotten to know him a little better and he would’ve come off as less of an ass that way. Also, I was confused as to why he came back from Europe with all that fake swag. I finally concluded that after what happened with Marina, He had sworn off woman and became this shallow person who didn’t want to feel deeply, or connect to a woman so he developed this persona that only Pen could shake off of him. we as an audience shouldn’t have to work so hard to make pieces of the story connect or to fill in the blanks. This was a poorly written script for season three.

  • @Lola-seven
    @Lola-seven 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    Let's call a spade a spade, Collin is not yet a leading man. His acting also requires more substance. The acting also made it more obvious that the supposed star couple POLIN are quite forgettable. I watched the season waiting to see Violet/Lord Anderson and Kate/Anthony. Something went wrong this season honestly.

    • @siljemo9069
      @siljemo9069 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I thought Colin’s actor made the best choices and had the best overall performance with what he was given, actually. The writers really didn’t try with him

  • @bubblesnfluff
    @bubblesnfluff 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    17:16 I felt like the writers knew that the actors for Colin and Penelope are not main character actors and that’s fine, but flooding the season with a bunch of side plots for other cast members just does a disservice to the potential we could have had.

    • @tomixshile9502
      @tomixshile9502  23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I totally agree. It's like they didn't even try to make it work

  • @Sunshine.Sister
    @Sunshine.Sister 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    I really appreciate that you go into how bad what Penelope did was. I think a lot of people are so near-sided and don’t consider the consequences of what lady whistledown does with her gossip rag by revealing these things about people and then having the audacity trying to pull the feminist card while sacrificing other women for her own sake.

    • @tomixshile9502
      @tomixshile9502  23 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      EXACTLY!!! She can be the protagonist this season, yet still acknowledge her questionable morals

    • @susannapapagno7996
      @susannapapagno7996 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Penelope doesn’t do these things out of malice. She does them out of desperation. She is ignored by the Ton, ridiculed by her mother, not seen by the love of her life. She is lonely and feels hopeless. Lady whistle down gives her purpose and meaning. The things she wrote, may have impacted people in a negative Way, but her intentions were always pure. She eventually acknowledges the consequence of her actions and repents. That shows humility and strength of character. She’s not perfect, just human.

    • @Sunshine.Sister
      @Sunshine.Sister 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@susannapapagno7996 desperation does not excuse her actions. I’m all for repentance and second chance, but there are several animals that will sacrifice a limb to save the rest of the body. I feel like claiming her intentions were always pure is a bit of a reach.

    • @susannapapagno7996
      @susannapapagno7996 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@Sunshine.Sister I see your point, but as I am a forgiving person by nature, I am able to extend grace to those with penitent hearts. I can even find a soft spot for Cressida when most find her evil. There are two sides to every person and I can’t hold one’s actions against them if they are sorry.

  • @gregoryoh2758
    @gregoryoh2758 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    Season 3 was a letdown, a lot of story lines, costumes just awful, the main couple didn't have enough time and specially I am really mad that they just throw lady Whiseldown out

    • @tomixshile9502
      @tomixshile9502  23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      That's so true! The set also feels very cheap at times!

  • @johnandsheilaalderson
    @johnandsheilaalderson 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +37

    I feel like they ended this season with no room for Colin and Pen in the future. The Ton knows who LW is. They are married and have a kid. Colin wrote a book. What compelling storyline for them is left? I guess they will go the way of Simon and Daphne and I’m sure Anthony and Kate will fade into the distance as well. So not interested in a bi Benedict or a Lesbian Francesca. They’ve ruined any interest in me watching in the future.

    • @splendid3985
      @splendid3985 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Mine too

    • @ciarahoran6830
      @ciarahoran6830 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I agreed with the rest, but the end sounds like homophobia bestie, and that’s not the show’s issue, that’s yours. Hope this helps!

    • @johnandsheilaalderson
      @johnandsheilaalderson 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      @@ciarahoran6830 just because a person has a preference to see the show follow after the books in this regard doesn’t make them homophobic. Try not to project labels on people’s opinions.

    • @ciarahoran6830
      @ciarahoran6830 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@johnandsheilaalderson If you wanted the books, then read the books. They always make show adaptations different from the books. Suck it up

    • @SummerTokyoNeko
      @SummerTokyoNeko 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@ciarahoran6830 so if a character from the book is gay and they adapted them to be straight, then should it be called straightphobia, just because we want them to follow the books which they sourced it from, doesn't mean it is homophobia or any terms you want to call it...

  • @ninaschust3694
    @ninaschust3694 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    The show is terrible because the book is terrible - 100 % agree.
    I very much hope that Marina and the botanist have a beautiful relationship and they both love their kids and die of old age. I hope that Eloise marries Creseda.
    If they want Marina to die, I hope it's in a way she doesn't want to end her life - like during childbirth (I nearly died and would have definitely without modern medicine) or drowning while rescuing a child (I nearly died rescuing my sister in a lake) or a lung infection, like Katharina Pawlowna, queen of Wurttemberg.
    I hope her husband griefs and wants to find a new mom for their kids because he thinks he can never be happy without Marina again. A bit like Francesca and John ❤

    • @ninaschust3694
      @ninaschust3694 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Oh, I have an even better idea: Phillip Crane dies, Marina is devestated. Eloise begins to write to her and they fall in love. That's why they are not cousins. Marina is Pens cousin in the show and Eloise's cousin in the books. Oh and also that she could have married Colin

  • @HuntingViolets
    @HuntingViolets 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    There wasn’t much of Anthony and Kate this season. I think having the heads of the family around is fine.

  • @karenpessoa4487
    @karenpessoa4487 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I felt like the love connection was rushed and didn't feel like a natural progression.
    Not enough substance for either Colin or Pen.
    The ending was a total let down. Pen and her sisters with babies! Really.
    I have not read the book but thanks so much for your suggestions and insightful comments.

  • @sarickacampbell2642
    @sarickacampbell2642 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

    Well, you need to rewatch episode 7 because Penelope did not mention anything about Eloise and Theo. She only scandalized her by mentioning the political radicals.
    As a strategic attempt to have the Queen disassociate herself with Eloise. So the queen, Would lose interest in having Eloise as a potential lapdog.
    Which worked. And the Queen didn’t even care. She was still interested in finding out what happened with the wedding of Anthony and Edwina.
    All of this could’ve been explained if there was a competent writer ✍🏻 for season three who understood the characters and their motivations 😣

  • @frankiethebookworm3163
    @frankiethebookworm3163 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I agree.

  • @sarickacampbell2642
    @sarickacampbell2642 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +17

    💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕
    The Demisexual representation that Bridgerton claim to be giving us. Was nonexistent.
    The previous show runner (Chris) said that Colin was the sensitive one because he was raised amongst his sisters 👯‍♀️ playing dolls 🎀and the age gap between him and his two older brothers. Makes him less likely to be a womanizer like his older brothers. so in season 1 and 2 they were setting Colin up to be a romantic demisexual. Hence why he wouldn’t kiss Marina🐚.
    The toxic masculinity story that they wanted to tell they’ve already told it twice with Simon and Anthony and with Simon and Anthony. They had all the legwork 🦵from season 2 to tell the story of toxic masculinity through Anthony. That’s how they could’ve shown us his character growth. At the end of season 2 he said that he will humble himself for Kate. To be the man worthy of her. ‘Great’ you have your toxic masculinity story right there. Season 3 we could have seen Anthony imparting, this Wisdom onto his younger brothers Gregory and Colin.
    Simon and Anthony are best friends for a reason they’re both touched in head, assholes. It’s understandable, why they are the way they are. We know from the books that Anthony is planning on dying young like his father so he’s trying to avoid attachments. The man is a bit tweaked in the head from taking on so much responsibility at the age of 18 and having to deal with his postpartum depressed grieving mother and all of his 7 siblings.
    At the end of Anthony season. He learned that the man that he was was no man at all. He was a reprehensible thoughtless Cad. Who needed to humble himself to deserve his soulmate. And you’re telling me the lesson Colin learned in this is be a W*** in 17 cities. 🌆
    Colin is a trust fund brat, who gets to travel the world on his rich 🤑 inheritance. Making him a Mr. World international Rake. Makes him extremely selfish. Even more than Simon and Anthony.
    🌃🌃🌃🌃🌃🌃🌃🌃🌃🌃🌃
    This type of characterization does not make any sense for Colins character.
    👨🏾👨🏾👨🏾👨🏾👨🏾👨🏾👨🏾👨🏾👨🏾👨🏾👨🏾
    The new show-runner decides to redo Simon‘s ark. And just scrap the character that they set up for two seasons.
    Simon’s ark makes sense for him. It makes sense why he would be so selfish. He is an abused, traumatized man. 👨🏾 Who is touch starved? And affection starved. He’s never really known love devotion safety. Affection & Acceptance.
    Colin doesn’t struggle from any of that. He grew up in a loving household. He’s always been supported and taken care of.
    The level of the disrespect of how they destroyed Colins character in comparison to every single other male character. Isn’t unforgivable offense.
    1. Anthony at least had the decency to get himself a consistent mistress for years. so he’s not fathering potential bastards to be ignored. As Queen Charlotte has said that’s what happens to them. They are ignored.
    2. Benedict doesn’t pay for prostitutes. He sleeps with willing independent empowered women. not systematically oppressed prostitutes.
    3. John Sterling is adorable.
    4. Lord Debling by comparison, a truly secure man 🧍‍♂️ who stands for his own conviction.
    5.Featherington girls husbands are cinnamon rolls
    The Colin we got. Is undeserving of. The ever faithful ever waiting, Penelope. Loyal to Odysseus wayward wondering 🤔 Man w***ing ass.
    They had so much potential. The chemistry and story in season 1 and 2 were so cute and refreshing but the writers instead chose to turn it into a typical overused fuckboy redemption story. There are other ways where they could express the 'trying to fit in' storyline but they chose to ruin Colin's character instead. 😤
    🏴‍☠️🏴‍☠️🏴‍☠️🏴‍☠️🏴‍☠️🏴‍☠️🏴‍☠️🏴‍☠️🏴‍☠️🏴‍☠️🏴‍☠️
    It’s not fake or faking when you actually sell your integrity down the river. Just to be accepted. And become everything you proclaimed that you were not. You are who you choose to be.
    When your morals can be compromised just for the sake of pointless validation.
    What would’ve actually given him a leg 🦵 to stand on is if he wasn’t doing everything he suddenly deemed reprehensible.
    And unworthy of the title of gentlemen
    If Colin had felt a bone-deep disdain for this ridiculous society that he had been born into. He would’ve held himself to a different standard, hold on to his Morals even if was just privately.
    (But he didn’t)
    👶🏽👶🏽👶🏽👶🏽👶🏽👶🏽👶🏽👶🏽👶🏽👶🏽👶🏽
    You would think after everything That happened with Marina 🐚, a truly compassionate man, sensitive, thoughtful & caring wouldn’t risk putting bastards into the world just for them to be abandoned. And never know their father.
    Imagine if Colin father a daughter who ends up being some man’s whore. And Toy 🧸.
    and I’m just supposed to respect and understand that I can’t.
    Is this what you call a man of HONOR?
    I saw on Instagram a interview that the actor (Luke) didn’t like the whole brothel scene. He said the characterization came out of nowhere for him. Kinda took him by surprise. 😮
    It’s one thing to surprise your audience with a character change, but to completely deform the character to point your wondering, who the hell is this creep?
    Long story short Colins reasoning for becoming this man is empty and hollow and it makes Colin looks empty and hollow. 😕

    • @XeaRae
      @XeaRae 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      For some reason writers are too afraid to let go of sexually experienced man + virginal maiden formula for the main couple of the season.
      I honestly think they threw in those prostitutes just to highlight that Colin has ‘done it all’ and will be the one introduce Penelope to the world of pleasure.
      Kind of makes sense why Michael is Micheala. If Francesca is attracted to women only, they can repeat the same formula again. Michaela can be the sexually experienced one introducing Francesca to desire. I take it Francesca would be biromantic lesbian in this scenario.

    • @johnandsheilaalderson
      @johnandsheilaalderson 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Thank you. You have expressed my thoughts well. They should have keep Colin innocent and sweet. That type of Colin would have deserved Pen and they would have been the most adorably awkward virgins on their wedding night. Not everyone in the world sleeps together prior to marriage. How refresh it would have been if they could have explored and learned together. After what they did to his character, I didn’t even want them together. Lord Debling had a lot to offer and should have given him a run for his money and made him work for Penelope.

    • @ninaschust3694
      @ninaschust3694 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@johnandsheilaalderson I wanted Eloise to get together with Debling. He would have let her done anything she told Benedict to do when they sat on the swings and she told him her diary is not a novel 😜👍
      And Marina wouldn't have to die for Eloise's marriage and become depressed.

    • @ninaschust3694
      @ninaschust3694 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I thought you meant Francesca when you talked about demisexual characters. 😅

    • @ninaschust3694
      @ninaschust3694 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@XeaRae I totally agree. It's also the reason why they changed the text in his travel books about the sea with the text about women.
      But honestly I don't like how he reacts when he sees Pen reading it. The guy who laughed when he fell off a horse due to a bonnet in his face should be more relaxed when someone reads his book that was openly available in an almost public room in the house. That's why diaries have locks 😉👍

  • @NakeshaMoore
    @NakeshaMoore 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I’m in love with your hair. You are so beautiful. Thanks for the video,I appreciate your insight. #NewSubscriberHere

    • @tomixshile9502
      @tomixshile9502  12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thank you so much !!! ❤️😭

  • @HuntingViolets
    @HuntingViolets 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Yes, drop the Diamond. I don’t even want the narration anymore.

  • @imaniharris
    @imaniharris 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I actually love this dissect because I haven’t watched anyone talk about the comparison between the books and show. This was an amazing watch. Def following!

    • @tomixshile9502
      @tomixshile9502  23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thank you! Your words are really very encouraging!🥹

  • @TMMMMMMMMMMMT
    @TMMMMMMMMMMMT 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    I truly believe that the only people who like Penelope and Colin as characters are teens/kids or just people who have a lot more maturing and emotional development to do.
    Their motivations, reactions and decisions are extremely selfish, unempathetic and petulant. The shows justifications for their actions are paper thin and unbelievable.
    Side note - Penelope’s corset is distracting and really unflattering, it ruins the dresses, clearly hinders her movement and is so unnecessary!

  • @lainadelpay
    @lainadelpay 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I thought Marina was Colin’s cousin in the books. So her dying in Eloise book wasn’t bc of their failed relationship.

    • @tomixshile9502
      @tomixshile9502  23 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Yes, Marina is Colin's cousin in the book, but her death was not caused by Penelope. In the books, she died because she was forced to marry her lover's brother, Crane, after her lover died. However, in the show, Penelope exposes Marina, which leads to her being forced to marry Crane the brother. So if Marian dies in the show it would be because of Pen.
      Thank you for the opportunity to clarify!!

    • @samantharamos276
      @samantharamos276 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@tomixshile9502No, Marina dies of pneumonia after she tries to off herself because she had post partum depression in the book; in the show there is no way her death would be on Pen's account even if they kept that storyline since she was ready to marry pretty much anyone to have a future, and also we saw her happy and glowing with 2 kids in S2 when Colin dropped by

  • @lynndaniels-dn9tq
    @lynndaniels-dn9tq 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    DONT WATCH IT!!!! THIS ISNT FOR EVERYONE AND PEOPLE NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT.
    THEY DIDNT WRITE THE SHOW TO BE ACCURATE TO THE BOOKS...... THEY HAEV SAID THAT SINE SEASON 1.....
    OBVIOUSLY ... IT WENT OVER ALOT OF SURFACE PEOPLES MINDS.
    THERE NOT CHANGING BECAUSE YALL COMAPLAINING , VIEWS ALWAYS OUT WEIGHT HATE.