Thank you for this video with condensed and usefull information! Well made and good quality information. (for comparison: some 20-30 minute video's featuring the same series tents are only stating the obvious which you can find on all reseller websites)
I really appreciate the feedback and glad you found it useful. It was an amateur production made in the field beside my house during lockdown, so aspects of it could have been better.
I'm a very "in"experienced hikker (lol, well really intermediate at this point) and I have to keep to a tight budget! So for me it is so much about durability too! And cost of course! 😏😁
I agree with Matt Saxey - you make some really interesting points here especially concerning nylon Vs polyester. I'd not thought about polyester being naturally waterproof. Thank you!
Everywhere I go I hear everyone complaining about the Hubba whilst everyone seems to rave about the elixir, think il save my money and deal with the extra couple of grams and go with the elixir!
I have the Elixir 1 and 3. I love the tents but I will say that they are HEAVY! My fiancé and I did an 8 day hike in the French Alps. We could feel the extra kilos...we had 13kg on our backs, everything included. That said, I still like not having to shell out 500-600 bucks on a tent I only use during the summer.
@@RonnelB. oh wow!! I actually hiked for the first time ever and had 16 kg on my back!! And I was on my OWN though!! Boy it was heavy!! But how you guys have so much that's 13kg? When you had the extra luxury of spreading the weight?!
@@bluebellcrushedvelvet Amateurs! When I go on a week-long hike with my girlfriend, I carry the food for both, the tent, the cooking gear, the cooking water, my sleeping gear plus a relatively heavy backpack because I need one which can carry 20+ kg. By that, my and my girlfriend walk at the same speed.
Really excellent and informative video - thank you! For me it was an obvious choice to go for the Elixir 2 - stronger in high winds, more robust construction and materials, more room in the porches etc. The only reason to even consider the Hubba would be if you're an obsessive gram counter, to which I would say get fitter and stronger and save yourself about £170 and get yourself a better tent. I have been incredibly impressed with the Elixir which has stood up to everything the British weather can throw at it with ease and still looks like new after 3 years and dozens of camps.
I have an Elixir 3. Awesome tent. For the little weight gain Elixir everytime. Most people could loose 2kg - 10kg of fat in weight off their bodies. Do that, you'll be fitter and lighter for free.
Thanks for this. Absolutely fantastic video which summarises many of the points I've been researching while I try to make up my mind as to which tent to buy. I was planning on buying the Elixir, then was swayed and was almost about to buy the Hubba instead. Now I'm swinging back towards the Elixir again, as even though it is heavier, it is more durable, roomier and appears to have greater wind resistance. As I'm looking to do some winter camps this seems to tick all the boxes. Having spent hours watching many reviews it's been really helpful to see a side-by-side review like this.
Hello from a year in the future! I was wondering which you went with and how you've gotten on? I'm in exactly the same position and can't decide. Looking for a do it all for car camping and Bike touring.
@@Horrorhiker I was very pleased with the MSR Elixir 1. Excellent build quality and attention to detail make it a fantastic 3 season tent. Your comment made me look back at my website and it looks like I never got round to reviewing this tent, something I'll have to remedy. The only down side to it was the fact it pitches inner first, which caused a few issues on some high camps in very bad weather.
@@AirdrieRambler Thanks for the reply, that's excellent. I have actually ordered the Elixir 2 now as I saw it at a decent price the other day, but I plan to get the 1 too, a bit later on. Fantastic to hear that you got on so well with it. I'm not too worried with inner first tbh. I used to use only pitch as one tents, but I find that I really like the classic dome design so inner first are loads easier to find, and have no problems just wiping everything with a towel if it gets a bit wet.
@@simplelife6827 You know what keep it simple...... Wild Country helm 2..... Vango Mirage Pro.... Every time i go wild camping i never see people using MSR........ All show and no go tents in my opinion.
@@Ns-vv1yw I just ordered the Hubba. It's main 2 advantages for me was the amount of room you get lying down. I'm 6ft, so on the taller side. It's also propped up at both ends offering extra headroom when sleeping. And it packs away much smaller and lighter, for solo backpacking i'm hoping it'll be great. Worst case scenario I don't like it and sell it.
Dieses Video hat mir nach wochenlangen Recherchen heute den letzten Funken für das Elixir 2 gegeben. Ich habe schon das HubaHuba1 und ja es ist ein gutes und vor allem leichtes Zelt. Allerdings bei Regen zu klein bzw. eng. Ich will ein größeres wo ich auch bei Regen Platz habe. Danke für die Gegenüberstellung.
Hey, you only mentioned it briefly and was said for only a few seconds, but *how are we meant to block off the mesh in windier conditions???* I REALLY need you to talk about it more properly! Not just in passing plz!! This could be critical info! Don't understand how you put things there!
I was referring to the internal pockets at either end of the tent where if you fill them with something like a dry bag, or a jacket it will reduce the flow of air. It's not going to make a radical difference, but it will help.
@@proagencies yes that's what I mean. But can you give it a bit more on video than just two split seconds?!? Maybe share that kind of technique with more in-depth info? How does one stick them to the mesh?? It's still not clear!
@@bluebellcrushedvelvet Inside the tent at either end there are are usually internal pockets. These are for the storage of items to keep things off the floor of the tent. Instead of just placing things like your phone in the pocket fill them with waterproof jackets/Drybags etc to block the wind. Anything will be better than nothing.
ProAgencies ha I liked it, very natural and informative... just what you need when choosing where to place you money. It’s a no brainier for me, I am a Hubba fan 😎
I'll work on it for the next video, this one was produced in the field beside home during Covid-19 lockdown, so I was working with what I had to hand. Glad you found it informative.
The "2022" Hubba's are only available to purchase in the U.S. In Europe the Hubba will remain unchanged from the model shown in the video through the whole of 2022 and 2023.
Helpful video, but the size comparison in the beginning seems a bit shady, since the hubbo looks really compressed and tied up and the elixir ist really loose
It's a fair point, and yes you can compress the Elixir smaller than it appears. The compression sac the Hubba is supplied with does a good job of minimising the space it takes up, and is genuinely a fair bit smaller than the Elixir due to thinner materials.
Like I've said a few times before, I made this in the first month of lockdown on an iPhone having never made a video before. I'd do it differently next time.
Wooww!! Very short video, but actually really incitive!! Amazing amount of comparison between the two!! Personally I still prefer the elixir, the extra vestibule space and the pole structure and it's design!! Yes now I understand why Hubba Hubba was such a rave about!! But I need more affordable!! So the elixir it is! What a fantastic comparison that really went into depth!! I also prefer that the walls come down much further!! I hate the cold drafts and I felt it too easy with my basic tent!!
Unfortunately I had no idea which was which much of the time! Using two tents of different colour, or with labelling of pics so we know what we’re looking at, would make it easier to understand.
Elixir every time. Stronger, will last longer, will not sag in sun and rain as the Hubba will. Elixir Elixir Elixir.... btw, bit more confident, clearer voiceover without a frog in your throat would make this easier to hear.
Thanks for the comment. Yes, aware of the sound quality. Producing it on an iPhone during the first month of lockdown it isn't the finest, but neither did I expect it to receive quite so many views.
The only and the best realistic comparison Elixir vs Hubba, with no any marketing:) Thanks.
That just answered every question I had thanks
Pleased to hear it, but feel free to get in touch if you do think of anything.
After watching this amazon had a sale and I managed to pick up a msr access one it’s awesome can’t wait to use it
Thank you for this video with condensed and usefull information! Well made and good quality information.
(for comparison: some 20-30 minute video's featuring the same series tents are only stating the obvious which you can find on all reseller websites)
I really appreciate the feedback and glad you found it useful. It was an amateur production made in the field beside my house during lockdown, so aspects of it could have been better.
Useful review. I went for the Elixir 1 in the end for bike touring - Hopefully better durability over the Hubba as weight was not my priority.
I used a bicycle trailer so weight isn't an issue for me either so I would go for the Elixir.
I am experienced camper I prefer durability over weight so I would go with the Elixir myself besides the porches are bigger.
I'm a very "in"experienced hikker (lol, well really intermediate at this point) and I have to keep to a tight budget!
So for me it is so much about durability too! And cost of course! 😏😁
I agree with Matt Saxey - you make some really interesting points here especially concerning nylon Vs polyester. I'd not thought about polyester being naturally waterproof. Thank you!
I'm pleased to hear you found it useful. Thanks for the comment.
Thanks for the excellent and informative video, does not waste your time and to the point.
Thanks for your feedback and I'm pleased you found it useful.
I have the Elixir 2 and love it. Thanks for the comparison 👍
Everywhere I go I hear everyone complaining about the Hubba whilst everyone seems to rave about the elixir, think il save my money and deal with the extra couple of grams and go with the elixir!
I have the Elixir 1 and 3. I love the tents but I will say that they are HEAVY! My fiancé and I did an 8 day hike in the French Alps. We could feel the extra kilos...we had 13kg on our backs, everything included. That said, I still like not having to shell out 500-600 bucks on a tent I only use during the summer.
Really Welsh nomad??
What did they complain about??
@@RonnelB. oh wow!!
I actually hiked for the first time ever and had 16 kg on my back!! And I was on my OWN though!! Boy it was heavy!!
But how you guys have so much that's 13kg? When you had the extra luxury of spreading the weight?!
@@bluebellcrushedvelvet Amateurs! When I go on a week-long hike with my girlfriend, I carry the food for both, the tent, the cooking gear, the cooking water, my sleeping gear plus a relatively heavy backpack because I need one which can carry 20+ kg. By that, my and my girlfriend walk at the same speed.
@@bluebellcrushedvelvet I can list what I carried if you're interested.
Really excellent and informative video - thank you! For me it was an obvious choice to go for the Elixir 2 - stronger in high winds, more robust construction and materials, more room in the porches etc. The only reason to even consider the Hubba would be if you're an obsessive gram counter, to which I would say get fitter and stronger and save yourself about £170 and get yourself a better tent. I have been incredibly impressed with the Elixir which has stood up to everything the British weather can throw at it with ease and still looks like new after 3 years and dozens of camps.
Pleased to hear you found it useful and thanks very much for your comments.
Very helpful, this is the first bit of info I’ve found on poly vs nylon. Would be useful to get your thoughts on pole technology/reparability.
I have an Elixir 3. Awesome tent.
For the little weight gain Elixir everytime. Most people could loose 2kg - 10kg of fat in weight off their bodies. Do that, you'll be fitter and lighter for free.
I have the elixir 3, I absolutely love it but I wish they would introduce a blacked out version so I don’t wake up at 5am every camp due to sunlight.
Why don't you use eye mask?
This is SUCH a useful video! Thank you! 👏👍
Glad to hear you liked it, and found it useful. Thanks
That really is a fantastic video. Very informative ... based on this, my choice really is simple. Thanks.
Thanks for this. Absolutely fantastic video which summarises many of the points I've been researching while I try to make up my mind as to which tent to buy. I was planning on buying the Elixir, then was swayed and was almost about to buy the Hubba instead. Now I'm swinging back towards the Elixir again, as even though it is heavier, it is more durable, roomier and appears to have greater wind resistance. As I'm looking to do some winter camps this seems to tick all the boxes. Having spent hours watching many reviews it's been really helpful to see a side-by-side review like this.
I appreciate the comments and glad it was useful to you. Thanks!
Hello from a year in the future! I was wondering which you went with and how you've gotten on? I'm in exactly the same position and can't decide. Looking for a do it all for car camping and Bike touring.
@@Horrorhiker I was very pleased with the MSR Elixir 1. Excellent build quality and attention to detail make it a fantastic 3 season tent. Your comment made me look back at my website and it looks like I never got round to reviewing this tent, something I'll have to remedy. The only down side to it was the fact it pitches inner first, which caused a few issues on some high camps in very bad weather.
@@AirdrieRambler Thanks for the reply, that's excellent. I have actually ordered the Elixir 2 now as I saw it at a decent price the other day, but I plan to get the 1 too, a bit later on. Fantastic to hear that you got on so well with it. I'm not too worried with inner first tbh. I used to use only pitch as one tents, but I find that I really like the classic dome design so inner first are loads easier to find, and have no problems just wiping everything with a towel if it gets a bit wet.
If I was homeless but not tentless, I would want to live out of the Elixer.
Great vid & info
Personally i think the MSR range are over priced, but this just me.
Why overpriced?
@@AlfStewartsRevenge Better tents out there for less in my opinion
@@Ns-vv1yw What tents do you recommend over the Elixr 2?
@@simplelife6827 You know what keep it simple...... Wild Country helm 2..... Vango Mirage Pro.... Every time i go wild camping i never see people using MSR........ All show and no go tents in my opinion.
@@Ns-vv1yw I just ordered the Hubba. It's main 2 advantages for me was the amount of room you get lying down. I'm 6ft, so on the taller side. It's also propped up at both ends offering extra headroom when sleeping. And it packs away much smaller and lighter, for solo backpacking i'm hoping it'll be great.
Worst case scenario I don't like it and sell it.
Very helpful, thanks. Ordered the Elixir as it ticked more boxes for me.
Thanks for the comment, and glad you found it useful.
Thanks for your review! Just choose between them.
Dieses Video hat mir nach wochenlangen Recherchen heute den letzten Funken für das Elixir 2 gegeben.
Ich habe schon das HubaHuba1 und ja es ist ein gutes und vor allem leichtes Zelt. Allerdings bei Regen zu klein bzw. eng. Ich will ein größeres wo ich auch bei Regen Platz habe.
Danke für die Gegenüberstellung.
ive bought an elixer2 for 110euro second hand, is that a good price?
That would depend entirely on the condition.
Finally a good review.
Pleased to hear you like it.
Hey, you only mentioned it briefly and was said for only a few seconds, but *how are we meant to block off the mesh in windier conditions???*
I REALLY need you to talk about it more properly! Not just in passing plz!!
This could be critical info! Don't understand how you put things there!
I was referring to the internal pockets at either end of the tent where if you fill them with something like a dry bag, or a jacket it will reduce the flow of air. It's not going to make a radical difference, but it will help.
@@proagencies yes that's what I mean.
But can you give it a bit more on video than just two split seconds?!?
Maybe share that kind of technique with more in-depth info?
How does one stick them to the mesh??
It's still not clear!
@@bluebellcrushedvelvet Inside the tent at either end there are are usually internal pockets. These are for the storage of items to keep things off the floor of the tent. Instead of just placing things like your phone in the pocket fill them with waterproof jackets/Drybags etc to block the wind. Anything will be better than nothing.
really great summary! thanks.
Also the elixer is waaaay cheaper.
the hubba is much expensivier, so its eazy for me. ill take the elixir 2
Nice... Well done lad
If I'd known we were going to have viewers of such quality I would have put more effort in Nigel!
ProAgencies ha I liked it, very natural and informative... just what you need when choosing where to place you money. It’s a no brainier for me, I am a Hubba fan 😎
Thank you.
Lovely presentation of video. 👍🏻
You are too kind Sire.
excellent and very informative video
I'm pleased you found it useful. Thanks for your comment.
informative but need to improve the audio
I'll work on it for the next video, this one was produced in the field beside home during Covid-19 lockdown, so I was working with what I had to hand. Glad you found it informative.
Wonderfully informative video though I found your voice to be too quiet on my phone at max volume
Great review thanks
Glad you liked it. Thanks for letting us know.
ProAgencies I ordered the elixir 2 last night after your review thanks
how about hubba 2022 version anyone compare?
The "2022" Hubba's are only available to purchase in the U.S. In Europe the Hubba will remain unchanged from the model shown in the video through the whole of 2022 and 2023.
mate, u really need to use a GOOD mic. the sound is BAD.
Completely agree, I made it on my iPhone in the first month of lock down during Covid with zero experience.
Helpful video, but the size comparison in the beginning seems a bit shady, since the hubbo looks really compressed and tied up and the elixir ist really loose
It's a fair point, and yes you can compress the Elixir smaller than it appears. The compression sac the Hubba is supplied with does a good job of minimising the space it takes up, and is genuinely a fair bit smaller than the Elixir due to thinner materials.
The sound quality is so bad, that I don't understand anything man! Terrible Sound but good video.
Like I've said a few times before, I made this in the first month of lockdown on an iPhone having never made a video before. I'd do it differently next time.
Wooww!! Very short video, but actually really incitive!! Amazing amount of comparison between the two!!
Personally I still prefer the elixir, the extra vestibule space and the pole structure and it's design!!
Yes now I understand why Hubba Hubba was such a rave about!! But I need more affordable!! So the elixir it is!
What a fantastic comparison that really went into depth!!
I also prefer that the walls come down much further!! I hate the cold drafts and I felt it too easy with my basic tent!!
Thank you very much for your comments. Pleased to hear you liked it.
Unfortunately I had no idea which was which much of the time! Using two tents of different colour, or with labelling of pics so we know what we’re looking at, would make it easier to understand.
no sound?
Turn up your volume
Elixir every time. Stronger, will last longer, will not sag in sun and rain as the Hubba will. Elixir Elixir Elixir.... btw, bit more confident, clearer voiceover without a frog in your throat would make this easier to hear.
Thanks for the comment. Yes, aware of the sound quality. Producing it on an iPhone during the first month of lockdown it isn't the finest, but neither did I expect it to receive quite so many views.
@@proagencies fair enough. I mean no malice by the way. It’s just that it slightly spoilt a very good video!
@@db2003 🥔?