▶ Thrustmaster T818 [UNBOXING] th-cam.com/video/St_VTMjA8xo/w-d-xo.html ▶ T818 'DRIVE & TALK' Early impressions! th-cam.com/video/L8ObvjPwYTc/w-d-xo.html ▶ Thrustmaster T818 [REVIEW] th-cam.com/video/lFAwt1tlVN0/w-d-xo.html ▶ CAN YOU USE non-Thrustmaster wheels on the T818? th-cam.com/video/b4LqQsrMg38/w-d-xo.html ▶ T818 vs. other DD's SIZE Comparison! th-cam.com/video/9i-S8FVhp3o/w-d-xo.html ▶ How to easily remove the QR adapter from a wheel! th-cam.com/video/shoahTzV0RA/w-d-xo.html ▶ T818 360° close-up view th-cam.com/video/-88S19dTzfY/w-d-xo.html
Any Chance the mystery port on the back is going to open up console compatibility, while providing a din for the sim hub to allow the shifters and handbrake to plug into the base? One can dream.
hello and thank you for this video, I also have this T818 and I'm pretty happy with it, could you share the FFB settings in the base you use for AMS2 and the forces you use in game. Thanks
Sold my t300 and F1 rim like two years ago no one wants to buy my tlcm pedals so I guess I'll pick one of these up when they have a console version and wait for their new gen wheels
I had creaking on the TM Open wheel on the TS-PC. For me the solution was to tighten the screws/bolts attaching the rim to the button box. I'm really interested in this as I have a lot of TM wheels lying around since I went SImucube, and I've never been completely happy with the Simucube.
I have csl dd (xbox version) and this has 2nm more torque which would definitely be noticeable. But I'd suggest a clubsport dd over this. Or a simagic alpha or alpha mini. That's the only bases I recommend honestly right now. And bare in mind Fanatecs issues, so only order what is IN STOCK
hello and happy new year !!! i have a T818 but it's impossible to change the firmware (5.14 to 5.18) because the boot mode do not work... Do you have the same problem ?
Worked fine for me, but I had to install the driver package a second time before it installed the firmware upgrade tool on my computer. To enter the boot mode turn off your wheelbase. Then hold buttons 22 + 23 simultaneously, while then pressing the power button on the back of your wheelbase. T818 will then start in boot mode (no LED ring) and it will be detected by the Thrustmaster firmware tool
Yes Thrustmaster has communicated about this. There is a small bug for the firmware update which will be solved soon via a new driver. And the only difference between V5.14 and V5.18 is to facilitate the assembly on the line production. So it's not an issue (as there is no difference in games or in terms of functionality beetwen these 2 firmware)
Hey Sir, appreciate your early impressions on this wheelbase. I am in the Thrustmaster ecosystem for many years now, so this was my logical upgrade and I am happy with it. I am also running the wheelbase on performance mode with 0 damper in the driver. How would you compare the level of oscillation from this wheelbase compared to other DD units you have tested?
Every DD I've used has oscillation, it's typical. If you add damping, then that will reduce or eliminate it. Or run the FFB mode in the settings to a lower setting. Personally, I've never found wheel oscillation to be an interference, I always have at least one hand on the wheel.
@@kolysion164 Thanks mate, I don't mind the oscillations because they only come up when you don't hold the wheel tight, which I normally don't do. Let's hope TM will give their users a bit more sliders to work with, rather than forcing them into predefined modes.
@@SimRacingCorner the problem is not that you have constantly a hand on the wheel, it's that you constantly use force in your arm/hand to stop oscillations.....and when you race 02hours, omg...Thrustmaster have to add filter, they market the t818 with pure feeling, without effect, simply cause they didn't have time to release effects....
@@SimRacingCorner yea i know i saw they are going to make t818 for console so if that was true what whould you prefer Fanatec CSL DD or T818? What do you think is better?
That Simagic is all metal and has a professional QR and you can adjust many parameters, you can also put Custom USB wheels, just like TM and Moza... In my opinion, Simagic and Moza are better options, if in doubt, I changed T- GT to Moza r9 and it's another world, goodbye to plastic...
You currently have the Moza R12 base for the same price as the TM T818 base, there should be no hesitation in choosing. We have better and more complete management software, full metal base, real QR, smaller size, more Nm.
@sertec4804 not really. It's said that some people have had heat issues but I don't think it's any more an issue with moza as it is with this base. The Fanatec csl and cs bases have a nice big heat sink and Moza do have a pretty minimal surface area, but most people say it never gets more than warm. But there's a law that keeps products being allowed to go over a certain temperature (can cause burns). So theoretically, the better the cooling solution or more headroom, the less likely the base motor will need to drop peak output. I was playing though. My honest thoughts are moza r9/r12 and r16 are excellent products! I'd be hesitation to recommend the R5 or R3. I recommend the csl dd 5nm and the ali express 180w boost kit of wanted for 50 bucks. Moza r5 is already 50 bucks more here. It's like paying for an R5 but getting a CSL DD 8nm. So under the R9, I wouldn't recommend other than if you really want a nrg quick release, and don't want more than 5nm
Hi, great to see first impressions. I'm wondering, because I'm a T300 console player and have a question about future console compability. Is there possibility to plug TH8A shifter directly to the wheelbase of T818? I'm asking because some games (for example WRC 10) doesn't recognize shifter plugged into PS5 USB, it has to be plugged into wheelbase
As far as I know, TM haven't said if they plan to make a console compatible version of the T818. It wasn't listed on their roadmap they put out when originally announcing the new series Txx8 branded wheelbases a year ago. The T818 has a socket for pedals, but not a shifter. I expect if they eventually make a T818 for consoles, they'll add another socket for that.
@@SimRacingCorner I think they gave some answer at TT that they are working at some compatible but nothing clearly. So maybe it will be some seperate model for ps5 and another for xbox, who knows :)
@@jarosawbretner6907 It wouldn't be possible to add console compatibility to this T818, it will need to be a new updated and branded version. There's licensing and hurdles companies need to deal with when getting permission and support from MS and PS for stuff like this.
Hi there. Excellent video. I am very curious about the comments about the FFB on this as compared to the Logitech G Pro. Is the Logitech that much better? If you had to give a percentage to each, how would you rate them? What the differential? I know you said just because the Logitech is so good doesn't mean this one is bad, but I am trying to gauge how much better it is than this overall, in your opinion.
@@SimRacingCorner Thanks so much for getting back to me! Do you think any of that differential is due to the Trueforce system? I am wondering if rigging up the T818 with a transducer on the wheelbase would serve to close that gap...
It's not Trueforce that puts it ahead. The Logitech picks up very small weight transfer and suspension elements that the T818 doesn't. The T818 also does this to some degree, but the Logitech is more sensitive. Essentially, G Pro is outputting higher fidelity FFB.
@@SimRacingCorner Thanks so much for the insight! It this down to a better motor? Or better tuning internally? Or something else? Can the T818 perhaps be tweaked with settings to replicate the higher fidelity?
If the Logitech G Pro DD, overlooking the aesthetics (although pretty subjective) and eco-system which is still in it's infancy, was €200 cheaper, it would have easily been the best value direct drive - wheel combo.
@@kolysion164 believe it or not, many people play racing games casually. Not everyone needs the best wheelbase, because a bad driver wont all of a sudden be amazing with a simucube. And id say most sim racers believe it or not arent actually that good at racing, including me. Its like buying a gun, people get so wrapped up in accuracy when even an "inaccurate" gun is more accurate then the shooter in most cases. So an ultra accurate wheelbase doesnt matter if you drive casually, maybe once a month or so and its just to show off to friends lol.
@@SimRacingCorner Nice, for DR 2.0, I use these settings, and it’s awesome 🤩: • In T818 CP - Master 100% - Damper 0% - Mode SPORT • In the Game - Self Aligning Torque: 70% / Wheel Friction: 0% / Tyre Friction: 50% - Suspension: 150% - Collision: 100% - Soft Lock: 150% Steering Centre Force Enabled: On - Steering Center Force: 100
Thanks Dude , been waiting for this and looking forward to the full review. I currently use a TSXW with the P310 , but I think the Logitech will be my choice for Direct Drive. It would be nice to stick with Thrustmastet but the Logi just seems a step ahead. Anyway Happy New Year and thanks for a detailed Drive & Talk.
@@kolysion164 Yeah good point , and I'm interested to see what they introduce . They haven't dabbled with changeable wheel rims before so hopefully they have some cool stuff in the works. And other peripherals. The new Moza handbrake shows you can introduce quality peripherals at a decent price point.
@@ryanblumenowThe reviews seem really positive. From guys like Sim Racing Corner , Sim Racing 604 , Boosted Media , all reviewers I trust. While it's pricier it comes with a better quick release , a decent whèel , and doesn't require additional hardware to fit to a cockpit. The True Forces sounds interesting too. Its the more desirable of the two for me , your mileage may differ!
@@spudzersb8130 Thanks a lot for the great reply! Do you think the FFB is that much better on the Logi as compared to the T818? I am struggling to work out just how much better it might (or might not) be as a differential.
i understand peeps revieuw of this but most of you allready had a DD wheel base and its like not eay for new players to get a good inpression im made a video to my verry first one because i m new to sim racing and the t818 is my first DD wheel base
Io ho il t818.. l ho trovato fantastico in tutti i campi.. il ffb dipende molto dai giochi! Ad esempio su dirt rally 2 è esageratamente spettacolare, come anche su WRC generations.. su ACC è bello ma si sente che a bisogno di essere ottimizzato come del resto in tutti i giochi! tutto dipende dal gioco in cui stai giocando, e cambia molto in paragone di FFB...!! Logitech nn l' ho mai provato e so che ne parlano bene, ma non tutti apprezzano il trueforce ed e molto soggettiva la cosa! Quindi non si può fare un paragone perché ognuno ha gusti diversi e personali.. la base t818 è incompleta per ora e non è uscita con i volanti di nuova generazione come ad esempio Logitech che ha già il volante adatto alla nuova base.. questo fa tanto! Il QR in plastica della base t818 è stato scelto di proposito secondo me per non danneggiare le ruote del vecchio ecosistema thrustmaster.. il QR in metallo sarebbe stato non equilibrato per i volanti al momento esistenti sul mercato, perché sono stati progettati per forze (NM) molto più basse! Un volante progettato per 6 NM potrebbe spaccarsi con un QR in metallo soprattutto usato a 10 NM.. l ecosistema TM è adattabile al nuovo t818 ma non può essere spinto all estremo per una questione di progettazione è fisica! Per questo credo che la scelta del QR sia stata fatta tenendo conto di adattare una base nuova ad un volante adattabile si ma non all' altezza! La TM ci ha dato la possibilità di poter utilizzare il vecchio ecosistema accontentando tutti i suoi clienti ma con i suoi pro è contro! Il t818 ha bisogno ancora di tanti aggiornamenti firmware e driver migliorando nettamente l esperienza in gioco e il software, quindi la base e all' inizio della sua vita e può fare dei miglioramenti non indifferenti! Ancora non possiamo fare un confronto perché al momento il t818 è sprovvisto ti ottimizzazione e della nuova generazione di volanti! Solo nel tempo potremmo dare e fare un paragone equilibrato in termini di giudizio! Ora sono solo supposizioni su un qualcosa di non ancora completo! Questo e il mio punto di vista.. magari mi sbaglio! Buona serata a tutti e buon 2023! Grazie per la tua recensione del prodotto e per i consigli!!👋👋👋
@@christopherpope1800 ciao.. puoi usare tutte le ruote dell' ecosistema TM ovviamente con il QR che viene rilasciato insieme all base t818.. io non lo sapevo che era compreso il QR e l ho acquistato separatamente alla base, or ane ho 2. sé hai bisogno di qualche informazione inerente al t818 scrivi pure!! Buona serata👋
Heres 2 reasons to be optimistic 1.) They are building the T818 in France because they wanted the best build quality they could bring to market. 2.) They didn’t rush to market. I had a 2nd hand g29 for my first wheel thing was a tank. I currently run a Thrustmaster TX with 2 years of daily use and never had any issues so their build quality has improved. If you still are sceptical Logitech makes a great DD base
I have a T300 and it's 9 years old and it works like on day 1. I never had a Fanatec wheel, but I heard a lot of times that Fanatec has a bad quality control and that there are many, many problems with the wheels so I don't think they are better than Thrustmaster when it comes to reliability. Also Fanatec seems to have a very bad support. I can't say anything about Logitech reliability, but Logitech definitely is a company that wants to get as much money out of the customer as possible. Before the T300 I had a Logitech driving force gt then I got I PS4 and Logitech decided to not make it compatible with PS4 although they could have done it easily. Thrustmaster at the same time decided to make there wheels which are working on PS3 compatible with PS4 and now many years later they made it compatible with PS5 instead of forcing you to buy a new wheel. So company policy of TM is better than I would expect it from a company that still wants to earn money. Logitech company policy is very bad in my opinion, therefore I'm not buying there products anymore. But it's definitely up to personal opinion if you support that or not, or if you care about that or not. And if you only play on PC it doesn't effect you anyways so you might ignore that
![Thrustmaster T818 [REVIEW/TEARDOWN] 🤔 IT'S GOOD! But I can't recommend it! WATCH TO FIND OUT WHY?](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/lFAwt1tlVN0/mqdefault.jpg)
▶ Thrustmaster T818 [UNBOXING] th-cam.com/video/St_VTMjA8xo/w-d-xo.html
▶ T818 'DRIVE & TALK' Early impressions! th-cam.com/video/L8ObvjPwYTc/w-d-xo.html
▶ Thrustmaster T818 [REVIEW] th-cam.com/video/lFAwt1tlVN0/w-d-xo.html
▶ CAN YOU USE non-Thrustmaster wheels on the T818? th-cam.com/video/b4LqQsrMg38/w-d-xo.html
▶ T818 vs. other DD's SIZE Comparison! th-cam.com/video/9i-S8FVhp3o/w-d-xo.html
▶ How to easily remove the QR adapter from a wheel! th-cam.com/video/shoahTzV0RA/w-d-xo.html
▶ T818 360° close-up view th-cam.com/video/-88S19dTzfY/w-d-xo.html
Any Chance the mystery port on the back is going to open up console compatibility, while providing a din for the sim hub to allow the shifters and handbrake to plug into the base? One can dream.
How is the mounting pattern? All new requiring new holes? Have thrustmaster t300, drilled holes for it in obutto ozone...
It's a new hole pattern. You can D/L the template from the TM T818 support page.
hello and thank you for this video, I also have this T818 and I'm pretty happy with it, could you share the FFB settings in the base you use for AMS2 and the forces you use in game.
Thanks
What’s better between the Logitech wheel and you Leo bodnar wheel base?
On balance, comparing price/performance/game compatibility. The Logitech.
Sold my t300 and F1 rim like two years ago no one wants to buy my tlcm pedals so I guess I'll pick one of these up when they have a console version and wait for their new gen wheels
I had creaking on the TM Open wheel on the TS-PC. For me the solution was to tighten the screws/bolts attaching the rim to the button box.
I'm really interested in this as I have a lot of TM wheels lying around since I went SImucube, and I've never been completely happy with the Simucube.
Thanks for the tip. I gave it a go, I think it helped a bit.
@@KRDexless It's too smooth, feels too artificial and doesn't work well on titles outside of the usual sim fodder.
Is it an upgrade that’s noticeable to the fanatec gt dd pro ?
I have csl dd (xbox version) and this has 2nm more torque which would definitely be noticeable.
But I'd suggest a clubsport dd over this. Or a simagic alpha or alpha mini.
That's the only bases I recommend honestly right now.
And bare in mind Fanatecs issues, so only order what is IN STOCK
You setting in Control panel damper to 0 or 5 6% in Acc ?
And ingame setting acc dynamic damping and damper ?
Thanks
Does the base support every racing game or old game or only new games ?
Thx for the video. Have a light buzzing when the base is turned on? I mean not in the game. Just after pushing the on/off button. Thank you.
Sort of, I wouldn't call it buzzing. But there is a very low hum kind of thing.
@@SimRacingCorner ok :(
G Pro on sale with coupons and sells for 850.
hello, can you tell me if there is a fan that we can ear when motor get hot ?
If there is an internal fan, I can't hear it.
@@SimRacingCorner thanks a lot. and thanks for your videos. you offer many content that we can't find in French.
hello and happy new year !!! i have a T818 but it's impossible to change the firmware (5.14 to 5.18) because the boot mode do not work... Do you have the same problem ?
Worked fine for me, but I had to install the driver package a second time before it installed the firmware upgrade tool on my computer.
To enter the boot mode turn off your wheelbase. Then hold buttons 22 + 23 simultaneously, while then pressing the power button on the back of your wheelbase. T818 will then start in boot mode (no LED ring) and it will be detected by the Thrustmaster firmware tool
Yes Thrustmaster has communicated about this. There is a small bug for the firmware update which will be solved soon via a new driver. And the only difference between V5.14 and V5.18 is to facilitate the assembly on the line production. So it's not an issue (as there is no difference in games or in terms of functionality beetwen these 2 firmware)
Good drive and talk! have the T818 after upgrade from TS racer and very happy with it. Hope TM will release a new Ferrari GT3 wheel for it!
Hey Sir, appreciate your early impressions on this wheelbase. I am in the Thrustmaster ecosystem for many years now, so this was my logical upgrade and I am happy with it. I am also running the wheelbase on performance mode with 0 damper in the driver. How would you compare the level of oscillation from this wheelbase compared to other DD units you have tested?
sadly thrustmaster has no filter, to remove oscillations, like Simucube, the damper filter is not the dampening filter...
Every DD I've used has oscillation, it's typical. If you add damping, then that will reduce or eliminate it. Or run the FFB mode in the settings to a lower setting. Personally, I've never found wheel oscillation to be an interference, I always have at least one hand on the wheel.
@@kolysion164 Thanks mate, I don't mind the oscillations because they only come up when you don't hold the wheel tight, which I normally don't do. Let's hope TM will give their users a bit more sliders to work with, rather than forcing them into predefined modes.
@@danieldulberg2167 I hope too, ACC has damper effect...so you can don't hold the wheel with this game.....
@@SimRacingCorner the problem is not that you have constantly a hand on the wheel, it's that you constantly use force in your arm/hand to stop oscillations.....and when you race 02hours, omg...Thrustmaster have to add filter, they market the t818 with pure feeling, without effect, simply cause they didn't have time to release effects....
Hi I play on console, what is better csl dd or t818?? Thx
T818 is PC only, so the CSL DD is one for you regardless.
@@SimRacingCorner yea i know i saw they are going to make t818 for console so if that was true what whould you prefer Fanatec CSL DD or T818? What do you think is better?
@@MMS_SpeeDy- Most likely, I'd pick the CSL DD between the two, after weighing up all the pros and cons.
I'm curious compare to simagic alpha mini
what's the difference between the two?
That Simagic is all metal and has a professional QR and you can adjust many parameters, you can also put Custom USB wheels, just like TM and Moza... In my opinion, Simagic and Moza are better options, if in doubt, I changed T- GT to Moza r9 and it's another world, goodbye to plastic...
Hi bro and thanks for the vid! What about Fanatec CSL DD Pro vs T818? Is the detail in force feedback kind of the same between Moza R9 and T818?
I'm curious which you would consider better the Logitech pro versus this t818? Not considering price.
I do cover this in the second half of the video. The Logitech is better.
I commented before I finished the entire video lol
Thank you for answering though! I think I have made my decision.
You currently have the Moza R12 base for the same price as the TM T818 base, there should be no hesitation in choosing.
We have better and more complete management software, full metal base, real QR, smaller size, more Nm.
More heat 🥵
@@GregoryShtevensh Do you comment that the Moza is much hotter during operation?
@sertec4804 not really. It's said that some people have had heat issues but I don't think it's any more an issue with moza as it is with this base.
The Fanatec csl and cs bases have a nice big heat sink and Moza do have a pretty minimal surface area, but most people say it never gets more than warm.
But there's a law that keeps products being allowed to go over a certain temperature (can cause burns).
So theoretically, the better the cooling solution or more headroom, the less likely the base motor will need to drop peak output.
I was playing though. My honest thoughts are moza r9/r12 and r16 are excellent products! I'd be hesitation to recommend the R5 or R3. I recommend the csl dd 5nm and the ali express 180w boost kit of wanted for 50 bucks.
Moza r5 is already 50 bucks more here. It's like paying for an R5 but getting a CSL DD 8nm.
So under the R9, I wouldn't recommend other than if you really want a nrg quick release, and don't want more than 5nm
Hi, great to see first impressions. I'm wondering, because I'm a T300 console player and have a question about future console compability. Is there possibility to plug TH8A shifter directly to the wheelbase of T818? I'm asking because some games (for example WRC 10) doesn't recognize shifter plugged into PS5 USB, it has to be plugged into wheelbase
As far as I know, TM haven't said if they plan to make a console compatible version of the T818. It wasn't listed on their roadmap they put out when originally announcing the new series Txx8 branded wheelbases a year ago. The T818 has a socket for pedals, but not a shifter. I expect if they eventually make a T818 for consoles, they'll add another socket for that.
@@SimRacingCorner I think they gave some answer at TT that they are working at some compatible but nothing clearly. So maybe it will be some seperate model for ps5 and another for xbox, who knows :)
@@jarosawbretner6907 It wouldn't be possible to add console compatibility to this T818, it will need to be a new updated and branded version. There's licensing and hurdles companies need to deal with when getting permission and support from MS and PS for stuff like this.
I may consider if and when my 2 Thrustmaster T300 Servo Bases fail eh!
Hi there. Excellent video. I am very curious about the comments about the FFB on this as compared to the Logitech G Pro. Is the Logitech that much better? If you had to give a percentage to each, how would you rate them? What the differential? I know you said just because the Logitech is so good doesn't mean this one is bad, but I am trying to gauge how much better it is than this overall, in your opinion.
I suppose if the Logitech FFB is 10/10, the Thrustmaster is about 8.5/10.
@@SimRacingCorner Thanks so much for getting back to me! Do you think any of that differential is due to the Trueforce system? I am wondering if rigging up the T818 with a transducer on the wheelbase would serve to close that gap...
It's not Trueforce that puts it ahead. The Logitech picks up very small weight transfer and suspension elements that the T818 doesn't. The T818 also does this to some degree, but the Logitech is more sensitive. Essentially, G Pro is outputting higher fidelity FFB.
@@SimRacingCorner Thanks so much for the insight! It this down to a better motor? Or better tuning internally? Or something else?
Can the T818 perhaps be tweaked with settings to replicate the higher fidelity?
@@ryanblumenow Every DD is limited by the motor itself, as is T818. No tweaks, or software updates, can change that.
Great video 👍🏻
Thanks for the info
If the Logitech G Pro DD, overlooking the aesthetics (although pretty subjective) and eco-system which is still in it's infancy, was €200 cheaper, it would have easily been the best value direct drive - wheel combo.
As it was when it first came out yeah
If already on TM ecosystem you can get a usb adapter for £100 and use a different wheelbase of your choosing. I think this is what I will be doing..
hellllllo. can you tell me your settings in the Game ?
I already ordered Moza...
why Moza, it's china cheap, without good support, Simucube is the highest and best premium DD....
@@kolysion164 Your zealous Simucube praise at every opportunity is plain odd.
@@kolysion164 Good luck getting any Simucube for £600
@@roberttidswell1362 if it was under 600€...everybody would buy it
@@kolysion164 believe it or not, many people play racing games casually. Not everyone needs the best wheelbase, because a bad driver wont all of a sudden be amazing with a simucube. And id say most sim racers believe it or not arent actually that good at racing, including me. Its like buying a gun, people get so wrapped up in accuracy when even an "inaccurate" gun is more accurate then the shooter in most cases. So an ultra accurate wheelbase doesnt matter if you drive casually, maybe once a month or so and its just to show off to friends lol.
Get the original T500rs rim it won’t make any noise it is a solid piece of metal and rubber. A better build than any rims that came after…
You should test in DiRT Rallye 2.0 (this base is awesome in this game).
I certainly will, DR 2.0 is one of the games I run wheelbases through when I'm testing for reviews.
@@SimRacingCorner Nice, for DR 2.0, I use these settings, and it’s awesome 🤩:
• In T818 CP - Master 100% - Damper 0% - Mode SPORT
• In the Game - Self Aligning Torque: 70% / Wheel Friction: 0% / Tyre Friction: 50% - Suspension: 150% - Collision: 100% - Soft Lock: 150% Steering Centre Force Enabled: On - Steering Center Force: 100
@@ParlierEddy Cheers, that will save some fiddling around.
Thanks Dude , been waiting for this and looking forward to the full review. I currently use a TSXW with the P310 , but I think the Logitech will be my choice for Direct Drive. It would be nice to stick with Thrustmastet but the Logi just seems a step ahead. Anyway Happy New Year and thanks for a detailed Drive & Talk.
Logitech feels good, but it lacks F1 wheel and rally round wheel, sadly
@@kolysion164 Yeah good point , and I'm interested to see what they introduce . They haven't dabbled with changeable wheel rims before so hopefully they have some cool stuff in the works. And other peripherals. The new Moza handbrake shows you can introduce quality peripherals at a decent price point.
Interested to know, what makes you say the Logi is a step ahead?
@@ryanblumenowThe reviews seem really positive. From guys like Sim Racing Corner , Sim Racing 604 , Boosted Media , all reviewers I trust. While it's pricier it comes with a better quick release , a decent whèel , and doesn't require additional hardware to fit to a cockpit. The True Forces sounds interesting too. Its the more desirable of the two for me , your mileage may differ!
@@spudzersb8130 Thanks a lot for the great reply! Do you think the FFB is that much better on the Logi as compared to the T818? I am struggling to work out just how much better it might (or might not) be as a differential.
i understand peeps revieuw of this but most of you allready had a DD wheel base and its like not eay for new players to get a good inpression im made a video to my verry first one because i m new to sim racing and the t818 is my first DD wheel base
Io ho il t818.. l ho trovato fantastico in tutti i campi.. il ffb dipende molto dai giochi! Ad esempio su dirt rally 2 è esageratamente spettacolare, come anche su WRC generations.. su ACC è bello ma si sente che a bisogno di essere ottimizzato come del resto in tutti i giochi! tutto dipende dal gioco in cui stai giocando, e cambia molto in paragone di FFB...!! Logitech nn l' ho mai provato e so che ne parlano bene, ma non tutti apprezzano il trueforce ed e molto soggettiva la cosa! Quindi non si può fare un paragone perché ognuno ha gusti diversi e personali.. la base t818 è incompleta per ora e non è uscita con i volanti di nuova generazione come ad esempio Logitech che ha già il volante adatto alla nuova base.. questo fa tanto! Il QR in plastica della base t818 è stato scelto di proposito secondo me per non danneggiare le ruote del vecchio ecosistema thrustmaster.. il QR in metallo sarebbe stato non equilibrato per i volanti al momento esistenti sul mercato, perché sono stati progettati per forze (NM) molto più basse! Un volante progettato per 6 NM potrebbe spaccarsi con un QR in metallo soprattutto usato a 10 NM.. l ecosistema TM è adattabile al nuovo t818 ma non può essere spinto all estremo per una questione di progettazione è fisica! Per questo credo che la scelta del QR sia stata fatta tenendo conto di adattare una base nuova ad un volante adattabile si ma non all' altezza! La TM ci ha dato la possibilità di poter utilizzare il vecchio ecosistema accontentando tutti i suoi clienti ma con i suoi pro è contro! Il t818 ha bisogno ancora di tanti aggiornamenti firmware e driver migliorando nettamente l esperienza in gioco e il software, quindi la base e all' inizio della sua vita e può fare dei miglioramenti non indifferenti! Ancora non possiamo fare un confronto perché al momento il t818 è sprovvisto ti ottimizzazione e della nuova generazione di volanti! Solo nel tempo potremmo dare e fare un paragone equilibrato in termini di giudizio! Ora sono solo supposizioni su un qualcosa di non ancora completo! Questo e il mio punto di vista.. magari mi sbaglio! Buona serata a tutti e buon 2023! Grazie per la tua recensione del prodotto e per i consigli!!👋👋👋
Stupid question I know, but can I use my t300 wheel without problems with the t818 base?. Happy new year dude.
@@christopherpope1800 You can. There are adapters for that (one is included in the box). You can see how it works in the unboxing vid.
@@christopherpope1800 ciao.. puoi usare tutte le ruote dell' ecosistema TM ovviamente con il QR che viene rilasciato insieme all base t818.. io non lo sapevo che era compreso il QR e l ho acquistato separatamente alla base, or ane ho 2. sé hai bisogno di qualche informazione inerente al t818 scrivi pure!! Buona serata👋
I just don’t trust Thrustmasters build quality. Had 2 T300’s and both broke. Logitech G29 never broke once. Fanatec also never broke on me.
Heres 2 reasons to be optimistic 1.) They are building the T818 in France because they wanted the best build quality they could bring to market. 2.) They didn’t rush to market. I had a 2nd hand g29 for my first wheel thing was a tank. I currently run a Thrustmaster TX with 2 years of daily use and never had any issues so their build quality has improved. If you still are sceptical Logitech makes a great DD base
Did you buy the T300’s brand new?
@@richardsracingmad yes!
Every product i’ve bought from TM except my t300 and and pedal stand have had an issue but i look forward to getting this
I have a T300 and it's 9 years old and it works like on day 1. I never had a Fanatec wheel, but I heard a lot of times that Fanatec has a bad quality control and that there are many, many problems with the wheels so I don't think they are better than Thrustmaster when it comes to reliability. Also Fanatec seems to have a very bad support. I can't say anything about Logitech reliability, but Logitech definitely is a company that wants to get as much money out of the customer as possible. Before the T300 I had a Logitech driving force gt then I got I PS4 and Logitech decided to not make it compatible with PS4 although they could have done it easily. Thrustmaster at the same time decided to make there wheels which are working on PS3 compatible with PS4 and now many years later they made it compatible with PS5 instead of forcing you to buy a new wheel. So company policy of TM is better than I would expect it from a company that still wants to earn money. Logitech company policy is very bad in my opinion, therefore I'm not buying there products anymore. But it's definitely up to personal opinion if you support that or not, or if you care about that or not. And if you only play on PC it doesn't effect you anyways so you might ignore that
All Thrustmaster products squeak in my experience haha