Last time I had to use these on a homemade crossbow I simply smacked it a few times with a hammer on my vise anvil. It's still holding strong after about 6 years.
I used his method to secure a ferrule on steel rope to hold a 20 pound painting from a ceiling joist. It's plenty strong enough for my lightweight purposes.
Lauren, I have just published a video showing that I hold 4 96 pound trash containers with a lot of wind on a steep incline. So the 20 pound of your painting is very safe. th-cam.com/video/Y45Pj89H3Lk/w-d-xo.html
I used an Automotive Tool made to disconnect Steering Tie Rod ends. It is a lever w/ loading screw. I used it to crimp 1/4" wire rope aluminum ferrules.
Thanks for this. Was looking for a way to do so without a crimping tool. Common sense would tell you this is for lighter applications. If you would have said so maybe you wouldn’t have received negative comments from people with their underwear in a knot.
Thanks for the comment. You can buy the vice grip with pivoting jaw at: Grip pliers with pivoting jaw: www.amazon.com/gp/search?ie=UTF8&tag=bestcashloans-20&linkCode=ur2&linkId=3276cc25bbd2cb0705692128a6bea402&camp=1789&creative=9325&index=tools&keywords=Pliers%20grip%20pivoting%20jaw
I thought it was a dumb choice when i read the title until I watched. I think this would work well in a pinch since you compressed the sides with the vice. Good idea, thanks.
You need to do a load test. A properly staged ferrule will be as strong as the cable itself. I suspect your method will not be even 50% as strong as the cable, but a pull test should be done to check this.
Good comment. Everybody does not need the strongest cable in the world; some may need rather a custom length or purpose cable. Anyhow these cables retain 400 lbs trash cans on a steep and very windy slope, called Edgecliff. And they have not failed once. The hooks at the end have failed. Please look at this video, it explains: th-cam.com/video/Y45Pj89H3Lk/w-d-xo.html
Thank you for sharing your method. It certainly looks as good as a professionally made one. I hope it will be just as strong, since when I do it, it will need to hold a heavy shelf up.
I use it to hold 4 huge 332lbs rated trash can together on an incline with a lot of wind on them. It has never failed. Pick the right wire diameter and increase the number of punches if you have a doubt. Let me know how it works for you. BTW I posted the video after years of experience.
I came here to figure out how to secure a ferrule for a dog leash for my back yard. Not every situation is life or death, you turds. Relax. Thanks for the video and info, friend. This will suit my purposes well.
But a lot are, like tying high tension steel cable wire for a sail shade on the roof, which is one of the most common reasons ppl need to clamp wires & don’t have a crimping tool.
You act as if you’re the normal one here. Using steel cable as a dog leash is strange enough in of itself, but the practical reason to use steel cable wire is for high tension objects. So if it snaps as someone’s tightening it and a large sharp metal anchor bolt flies at their head with the impact force of essentially a homemade catapult system, then you can say ~just relax , I use it to make steel dog toys or dog muzzles or whatever weird thing you use it for
you’re super weird for even being triggered enough by @Jjernsberger ‘s comment to say what you said. And literally every dog owner I know uses steel cable for dog runs. Pet stores even sell cable specifically for that purpose
I have had luck simply placing the aluminum fitting the long direction (like squeezing an "8") in the vice and compressing until it flattens. It ends up looking unusually regular in shape, uniform, but seems like it would take a direct nuclear hit. Also, never just one to a joining if it is anything critical.
My swayging tool only goes down to 3mm so I was thinking of using cheap wire strippers as an alternative tool for 2mm ferrules. Wish me luck. (It’s for a gate latch that goes through the fence, no one is going to die if it fails, they just won’t get into the house😄)
Your second paragraph is dead on. Many applications of custom wire will not make anybody die. In the first paragraph, wire strippers are not strong enough to punch the ferrule.
Boy, some answers here are amazingly stupid. This is a methid for light use . Not for carrying 20 tons. Yet you all get rabid about it. Almost all of us are doing things like this for home use and light demands. Myself i just use a blunt chisel and hammer that into the ferrule. In no possible way will that fail in any situation i plan on using it for. In the industry, anyone planning on heavy use will deffinately get it done or built properly.
I wouldn’t trust that with any over head lifting, supporting because there’s not enough contact inside the Ferrell to the cable . You have to squish the soft aluminum into the steel cable strands to be safe.
For pictures on the wall 🤓🤓🤓 been in the game for many many years.To give you people an idea.When the ferrule is properly swaged,it should come down to twice the diameter of the rope (round) hand swage tools do a pretty good job and are unlikely to fail.Anything else,stand back 🤓🤓🤓🤓 They are ugly but three rope grips are safer .
A very good video and useful recommendation. @oolatony might equally have cited Raymond Blanc, Michel Roux or Pierre-Yves Gerbeau but probably not Isambard Kingdom Brunel who I imagine was naturalised British. I'd point out that the old TV show heaped most ridicule on the English and German characters; having the English characters not just speak in a French accents but actually speak pigeon English was quite clever for the time and probably one of the shows main merits. (thank you for providing the inspiration to look it up on TH-cam - and enjoy the Englishmen dressed as a French Gendarme ). th-cam.com/video/i2bqb2vvizk/w-d-xo.html
You would be much better off using cable clamps. Swaging uniformly crimps an aluminum swage to within 90% of the cables strength. This method in this video is a waste of time
It depends what you are trying to achieve. The custom cable that I have made hold 4 100lbs trash cans, for a total weight of 400lbs on a steep incline with heavy winds. The cable has never failed.
@@CARANDTRAIN a properly swaged eye should support 90% of the rated break strength of the wire rope used. When properly swaged, the metal of the sleeve should fill in the gaps around the strands of the wire. there are well-established standards for sleeve diameter post-swage and number of swages necessary for each size of wire rope. The method shown above does not provide adequate compression of the sleeve and will therefore result in a weak eye that can support only a fraction of the rated load. That wire rope probably has a break strength of 2000 lbs, but your eye probably won't hold 200
Absolutely correct. A swage tool is a calibrated device when combined with the matching proper size of ferrule and wire rope. It applies precisely the correct amount of force, uniformly around the circumference of the ferrule rather than only in concentrated spots like a punch tool will do, to mold the ferrule into the valleys of the cable over its entire surface that is contained within the ferrule. Over-tightening is just as bad as under-tightening - you can damage the ferrule in ways not visible to the eye, producing cracks or thinning of the ferrule that weaken it, just as under-tightening will insufficiently mold the ferrule into the valleys of the cable from all directions. The method in this video "works", only to the extent that you probably will not be able to pull the ferrule off with your hand. At only 5% of the rated strength you would not be able to budge the ferrule at all. But there is no way to know whether you have over or under-tightened; there is no way to know what the break strength will be without breaking it. The only way to know the break strength of this type of fastener is to actually break them. That's why it is essential that you can create these fasteners with precise consistency and repeatability, so that the next one you make after breaking the tested one is as close as possible to the one you broke by testing it. Doing this by hand and guessing is how you get absolutely no repeatability whatsoever - and someone could die trusting equipment that *looks like rigging equipment* even if it wasn't your intention to use it that way. There should be a giant disclaimer on this video that says "never, ever, ever do this". Better, this video should be removed. Even if your purpose is not to secure anything valuable, the problem is that someone else could use this cable in the future thinking that it was made to specification.
Holy crap man. Sometimes you use a wire cable because you need something simple, like a pulley system for a bucket that’s never going to be more than 50lbs. Or something that will track and weather better than rope. The reason why I looked this up is because I need to replace the emergency cable on my trailer that needs to pull no more than 5lbs of force to engage the emergency break mechanism. It needs to slide well and weather well, that’s the only reason for using wire cable. This form of crimping will do just fine. Spending over $50 for this one thing seems pointless for many circumstances for people that don’t do something like this no more than once every 2-3 years.
I has been holding successfully 2 groups of 400 lbs trash cans for 5 years on the edge of a windy slope. How to Clamp a Wire Rope Ferrule Sleeve Without a Swaging Tool With a Hammer and Punch th-cam.com/video/Y45Pj89H3Lk/w-d-xo.html
Sir, your incompetence is astounding, hopefully you don't offer any other advice for anything else. Maybe you had nothing better to do the day you created this video and decided to offer incorrect advice - Please Stay Off the Internet, you're going to hurt someone. Unbelievable . . . Your "excuse" for offering WRONG INFORMATION is to provide a "Disclaimer" stating that this is for "Light Use" or "may not be as strong as the one with a swaging tool." Again, Sir, Stay OFF the American Internet!
It depends what you are trying to achieve. The custom cable that I have made hold 4 100lbs trash cans, for a total weight of 400lbs on a steep incline with heavy winds. The cable has never failed.
@@CARANDTRAIN Don't worry about it. This clown from Proflex Fitness is just another very average guy that lifts weight and lives with his parents. You're video was great. Very helpful👍
Says the guy from Proflex Fitness😆... with a whopping 3 subscribers. Now that's a joke. Slow down cowboy you're getting too popular🤣What are you and your parents watching on TV tonight?🤣
Man I like your English with that French Accent!!
Thank you!
Last time I had to use these on a homemade crossbow I simply smacked it a few times with a hammer on my vise anvil. It's still holding strong after about 6 years.
Same general idea.
I used his method to secure a ferrule on steel rope to hold a 20 pound painting from a ceiling joist. It's plenty strong enough for my lightweight purposes.
Lauren, I have just published a video showing that I hold 4 96 pound trash containers with a lot of wind on a steep incline. So the 20 pound of your painting is very safe.
th-cam.com/video/Y45Pj89H3Lk/w-d-xo.html
I used an Automotive Tool made to disconnect Steering Tie Rod ends. It is a lever w/ loading screw. I used it to crimp 1/4" wire rope aluminum ferrules.
Thanks. This is smart to repurpose a tool.
Thanks for this. Was looking for a way to do so without a crimping tool. Common sense would tell you this is for lighter applications. If you would have said so maybe you wouldn’t have received negative comments from people with their underwear in a knot.
Thanks. Yes it is for lighter use.
Thank you. I have to do six ferrules and I forgot how I had done them in the past. This seems like a good method.
Thank you. It is indeed a good method, easy to follow with excellent results. My how-to videos are always built on that model.
Thanks for the tips. And I like your large vice grip, haven't seen one like that.
Thanks for the comment. You can buy the vice grip with pivoting jaw at: Grip pliers with pivoting jaw: www.amazon.com/gp/search?ie=UTF8&tag=bestcashloans-20&linkCode=ur2&linkId=3276cc25bbd2cb0705692128a6bea402&camp=1789&creative=9325&index=tools&keywords=Pliers%20grip%20pivoting%20jaw
@@CARANDTRAIN
Thanks for that!
They are a touch expensive; have you found them worth it?
Absolutely, because of the pivot, they keep the jaws parallel.
I thought it was a dumb choice when i read the title until I watched. I think this would work well in a pinch since you compressed the sides with the vice. Good idea, thanks.
Thank you.
Excellent breakdown
Thanks for sharing.
You are welcome. Hope it helps. I have more videos on the topic.
You need to do a load test. A properly staged ferrule will be as strong as the cable itself. I suspect your method will not be even 50% as strong as the cable, but a pull test should be done to check this.
Good comment. Everybody does not need the strongest cable in the world; some may need rather a custom length or purpose cable. Anyhow these cables retain 400 lbs trash cans on a steep and very windy slope, called Edgecliff. And they have not failed once. The hooks at the end have failed. Please look at this video, it explains:
th-cam.com/video/Y45Pj89H3Lk/w-d-xo.html
Load test considerations:
th-cam.com/video/Y45Pj89H3Lk/w-d-xo.html
Thank you for sharing your method. It certainly looks as good as a professionally made one. I hope it will be just as strong, since when I do it, it will need to hold a heavy shelf up.
I use it to hold 4 huge 332lbs rated trash can together on an incline with a lot of wind on them. It has never failed. Pick the right wire diameter and increase the number of punches if you have a doubt. Let me know how it works for you. BTW I posted the video after years of experience.
Nice work! Saves buying a crimping tool that I would not need in the future. Thanks!
Thank you. This is my opinion as well!
I came here to figure out how to secure a ferrule for a dog leash for my back yard. Not every situation is life or death, you turds. Relax.
Thanks for the video and info, friend. This will suit my purposes well.
Turd aside, this is my point. BTW I have another video showing that it holds 400 pounds trash cans on the side of a cliff.
But a lot are, like tying high tension steel cable wire for a sail shade on the roof, which is one of the most common reasons ppl need to clamp wires & don’t have a crimping tool.
You act as if you’re the normal one here. Using steel cable as a dog leash is strange enough in of itself, but the practical reason to use steel cable wire is for high tension objects. So if it snaps as someone’s tightening it and a large sharp metal anchor bolt flies at their head with the impact force of essentially a homemade catapult system, then you can say ~just relax , I use it to make steel dog toys or dog muzzles or whatever weird thing you use it for
you’re super weird for even being triggered enough by @Jjernsberger ‘s comment to say what you said. And literally every dog owner I know uses steel cable for dog runs. Pet stores even sell cable specifically for that purpose
I have had luck simply placing the aluminum fitting the long direction (like squeezing an "8") in the vice and compressing until it flattens. It ends up looking unusually regular in shape, uniform, but seems like it would take a direct nuclear hit. Also, never just one to a joining if it is anything critical.
Good alternative idea. Can you reword the last sentence?
Interesting suggestion. Can you reword your last sentence?
Merci mon ami. Une explanation parfait
De rien!
My swayging tool only goes down to 3mm so I was thinking of using cheap wire strippers as an alternative tool for 2mm ferrules. Wish me luck.
(It’s for a gate latch that goes through the fence, no one is going to die if it fails, they just won’t get into the house😄)
Your second paragraph is dead on. Many applications of custom wire will not make anybody die.
In the first paragraph, wire strippers are not strong enough to punch the ferrule.
Thank you !!!
You are welcome, always happy to help.
Boy, some answers here are amazingly stupid. This is a methid for light use . Not for carrying 20 tons. Yet you all get rabid about it. Almost all of us are doing things like this for home use and light demands. Myself i just use a blunt chisel and hammer that into the ferrule. In no possible way will that fail in any situation i plan on using it for. In the industry, anyone planning on heavy use will deffinately get it done or built properly.
Indeed a method for light use. I am holding 400lbs trash cans on asteep incline.
Brilliant! Thank you
You are welcome!
Thank you
You are welcome, always happy to help!
super helpful
Thank you.
I wouldn’t trust that with any over head lifting, supporting because there’s not enough contact inside the Ferrell to the cable . You have to squish the soft aluminum into the steel cable strands to be safe.
*the full length should be squished into steel
err.. profesionally made😱
Thank you!
Merci Beaucoup.
De rien!
I like your SWB video. I am also a Ferrari fan. I have quite a few Ferrari videos but nothing close to 250 SWB.
For pictures on the wall 🤓🤓🤓 been in the game for many many years.To give you people an idea.When the ferrule is properly swaged,it should come down to twice the diameter of the rope (round) hand swage tools do a pretty good job and are unlikely to fail.Anything else,stand back 🤓🤓🤓🤓 They are ugly but three rope grips are safer .
Interesting point. Would you mind rewording?
That was so interesting
Thank you. Appreciate the comment.
Para eso hay herramientas esa practica no es segura .
de acuerdo. pero es una solucion que funciona en muchos casos no demasiado complicados.
I think this is Renee from Allo Allo😂
What do you mean?
@@CARANDTRAIN Old TV show
You stupid man, how can this be, the war is over ?
A very good video and useful recommendation.
@oolatony might equally have cited Raymond Blanc, Michel Roux or Pierre-Yves Gerbeau but probably not Isambard Kingdom Brunel who I imagine was naturalised British. I'd point out that the old TV show heaped most ridicule on the English and German characters; having the English characters not just speak in a French accents but actually speak pigeon English was quite clever for the time and probably one of the shows main merits. (thank you for providing the inspiration to look it up on TH-cam - and enjoy the Englishmen dressed as a French Gendarme ). th-cam.com/video/i2bqb2vvizk/w-d-xo.html
Hmmm 🤔
Hmmmm what?
You would be much better off using cable clamps. Swaging uniformly crimps an aluminum swage to within 90% of the cables strength. This method in this video is a waste of time
It depends what you are trying to achieve. The custom cable that I have made hold 4 100lbs trash cans, for a total weight of 400lbs on a steep incline with heavy winds. The cable has never failed.
This loop is nowhere near the proper spec for a properly swaged eye, someone's going to die from following this advice.
Can you elaborate more ?
Another Karen 😊
@@CARANDTRAIN a properly swaged eye should support 90% of the rated break strength of the wire rope used. When properly swaged, the metal of the sleeve should fill in the gaps around the strands of the wire. there are well-established standards for sleeve diameter post-swage and number of swages necessary for each size of wire rope. The method shown above does not provide adequate compression of the sleeve and will therefore result in a weak eye that can support only a fraction of the rated load. That wire rope probably has a break strength of 2000 lbs, but your eye probably won't hold 200
Absolutely correct. A swage tool is a calibrated device when combined with the matching proper size of ferrule and wire rope. It applies precisely the correct amount of force, uniformly around the circumference of the ferrule rather than only in concentrated spots like a punch tool will do, to mold the ferrule into the valleys of the cable over its entire surface that is contained within the ferrule. Over-tightening is just as bad as under-tightening - you can damage the ferrule in ways not visible to the eye, producing cracks or thinning of the ferrule that weaken it, just as under-tightening will insufficiently mold the ferrule into the valleys of the cable from all directions.
The method in this video "works", only to the extent that you probably will not be able to pull the ferrule off with your hand. At only 5% of the rated strength you would not be able to budge the ferrule at all. But there is no way to know whether you have over or under-tightened; there is no way to know what the break strength will be without breaking it.
The only way to know the break strength of this type of fastener is to actually break them. That's why it is essential that you can create these fasteners with precise consistency and repeatability, so that the next one you make after breaking the tested one is as close as possible to the one you broke by testing it. Doing this by hand and guessing is how you get absolutely no repeatability whatsoever - and someone could die trusting equipment that *looks like rigging equipment* even if it wasn't your intention to use it that way.
There should be a giant disclaimer on this video that says "never, ever, ever do this". Better, this video should be removed. Even if your purpose is not to secure anything valuable, the problem is that someone else could use this cable in the future thinking that it was made to specification.
Holy crap man. Sometimes you use a wire cable because you need something simple, like a pulley system for a bucket that’s never going to be more than 50lbs. Or something that will track and weather better than rope.
The reason why I looked this up is because I need to replace the emergency cable on my trailer that needs to pull no more than 5lbs of force to engage the emergency break mechanism. It needs to slide well and weather well, that’s the only reason for using wire cable. This form of crimping will do just fine. Spending over $50 for this one thing seems pointless for many circumstances for people that don’t do something like this no more than once every 2-3 years.
Was this meant to be a joke? You're ridiculous, mate...
How come? It has proven sturdy and successful for years. Only a minor minority comment with concerns.
Totally wrong, dangerous, wpuld not hold any load
I has been holding successfully 2 groups of 400 lbs trash cans for 5 years on the edge of a windy slope.
How to Clamp a Wire Rope Ferrule Sleeve Without a Swaging Tool With a Hammer and Punch
th-cam.com/video/Y45Pj89H3Lk/w-d-xo.html
Sir, your incompetence is astounding, hopefully you don't offer any other advice for anything else.
Maybe you had nothing better to do the day you created this video and decided to offer incorrect advice - Please Stay Off the Internet, you're going to hurt someone.
Unbelievable . . .
Your "excuse" for offering WRONG INFORMATION is to provide a "Disclaimer" stating that this is for "Light Use" or "may not be as strong as the one with a swaging tool."
Again, Sir, Stay OFF the American Internet!
It depends what you are trying to achieve. The custom cable that I have made hold 4 100lbs trash cans, for a total weight of 400lbs on a steep incline with heavy winds. The cable has never failed.
@@CARANDTRAIN Don't worry about it. This clown from Proflex Fitness is just another very average guy that lifts weight and lives with his parents. You're video was great. Very helpful👍
Says the guy from Proflex Fitness😆... with a whopping 3 subscribers. Now that's a joke. Slow down cowboy you're getting too popular🤣What are you and your parents watching on TV tonight?🤣
Waste of time just get the right tool
Many watchers do not share your opinion.