I've spent days looking at videos to explain how to use the sleeves and swaging tool. Thank you for making such a complete video on the topic. You're a life saver!
This is a stroke of marketing genius. I've wondered for years where to get and how to use this hardware. So glad to have found you. I'm on the way to your web site right now.
Redundant to the already posted comments, but can't help myself. This is about the mostest, bestest how to video I have ever come across. Just added you folks to my favorites and saved a screen pic of the crimp chart to my phone. Awesome stuff folks, just plain awesome!!!
Wow! Incredibly informative and well presented. A lot of thought and effort went into this video. This is how you build confidence in a company and sell product. Well done!
I was only looking into making a kayak paddle leash with weed whacker line, then this came up. I do work in industrial equipment (torquing and lifting) and learnt probably everything I didn't know about steel cable swaging. I wish we had videos this informative, direct and simple to watch when I started...
I thoroughly enjoyed this video. It caught my eye even though I will never have to swage anything, ever ! Now I want the whole set. What a very calm, confident voice you have as well.
Every amateur radio operator with a tower or a mast should be watching this. Personally, I would like to see it as part of the technicians class license test.
Thanks for the kind words. Too often we find applications where the swage fittings are installed incorrectly. Hopefully more people can watch this quick video to swage properly.
You are correct! So another question would be, do they make sleeves that would match EHS cable sizes? Testing data for them as compared to guy grips would be very good to have also. 73
What a tremendous instructional video - thank-you! You have certainly set the standard as to how these types of videos should be produced and presented.
Awesome video. One stop shop for all things cable. Even covered vinyl coated! Also they’re website is very competitive in terms of pricing just so everyone knows!
Thank you so much for making this very informative video. I have a vinyl coated stainless steel rope that has diameter of 1/16 bare wire and 3/32 diameter coated. And I bought sleeves for 3/32 diameter. But now, I learned that I should cut the vinyl before putting on the sleeve. Is it okay to still use the 3/32 sleeve since it will anyway flatten upon swaging?
How much weaker is the connection if the vinyl is left on? What percentage range would you estimate? I only need around 15% of the working load for my application but I did it over the vinyl. 1/8" cable
Good question. Vinyl coating should always be stripped prior to the swage since the vinyl can loosen and slip out. We've seen lots of swage failures over the years due to leaving the vinyl coating on. So, in your case, we recommend that the cable assembly be replaced. Thanks for the comment and good luck with your project!
With properly swaged eye-splices, you can successfully suspend rigging overhead. As long as you're not shock-loading and you're within WLL, then you should be fine. You can read more on the blog here bit.ly/3IvgehA
Great video. Thank you very much. One question, at the start of the video, your loops are very tight and leverage a U shaped loop. On all the demonstrations however, it isn't there. In order to constantly lift and drop a plow on my ATV using the wench, should I use a small loop with the U shaped tool over and above the sleeve ? Or make the look bigger without the U shape? Aside from that, great video. I wasn't doing 2 or 3 swages the last 2 times I did this so I probably was loosing cable strength. Learned a lot from your video. Thanks again.
Great question, Phillipe. Wire Rope Thimbles are a great way to protect cable strands from abrasion or crushing that can occur from constant use. While they're not required, many prefer them in an assembly like yours. Thanks for the comment, and we're glad you like the video!
Thanks. Got a new Rudder control mechanism for a Kayak, foot controls. 1/16 th in. wire. What is that plastic stuff over the end called how it is sized etc.
Actually The Chicago Flyhouse Inc tested double sleeve 4:33 . turns out it's a waste of time. ADDING SLEEVES DOES NOT INCREASE JOINT STRENGTH. Firstly, in order to be able to perfectly distribute stress force on sleeves you should swage them when wire is under stress(higher than human force) which is unattainable when you work alone and without pulling machines. usually the force distribution is not even 1/10 in most cases(ideal would be 50/50). my guess is that under the stress 1 of the sleeves snaps before dead wire end side starts sliding and then instantly the same force is applied to another sleeve which also gets destroyes (if both sleeves are identical of course) , while in case of standard wire rope clips that does not happen: when 1 clip friction force is less than the load then the dead end wire starts sliding activating other clip friction nad adding it up to ideal 50/50 force distribution, so the joint holds. So the rigidity of the sleeve is its limit. Please, tell me I am wrong.
I just bought some 1/16 stainless wire rope and aluminum sleeves for a light duty application that'll probably never see weather. Will that work or should I try to find the zinc copper sleeves? I found some plain copper but not zinc coated in that size... Thanks!
Paring metals like stainless and aluminum can make either one corrode. And since you said it will probably never see weather, we suggest changing the stainless wire rope to one that's galvanized. You can shop our 1/16 7x7 galvanized wire rope on our website. Hope this helps!
While you may be able to crimp different sizes together, there is no way to tell how much these fittings can hold when it is not holding the designed cable size. These fittings are designed to be crimped with specific cable and tools.
People have come up with lots of other incorrect ways to smash these fittings with hammers or vises, but those methods may fatigue the aluminum sleeve in a way that will promote cracking and failing. Using any other method than an appropriate tool is not recommended as there is no consistency in their load holding ability or fatigue life.
🗜🛠 I'm wondering if anyone's found crimping dies with the round bite(s) shown here, for the huge 11 ton hydraulic crimpers? I see eRigging has a 5 ton hyd crimper tool stating to use the #10 die, which appears to be a round bite, but I don't need another tool just the dies. Everywhere I look I see hexagonal bites for electric lugs. I suppose if there's nothing premade I could try making a few sizes from steel flat bar.
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Thanks for the info. I needed some clarification. I was about to use the sleeves the wrong way :)
5:00 According to MS51844 zinc plated copper sleeves should be used on steel cable and tin plated copper or stainless steel sleeves should be used on stainless steel cable (CRES).
Yes, @catranger01, MS51844 does call for Tin plated copper sleeves when using stainless steel cable because Tin does have a slightly less corrosive reaction than Zinc when in contact with stainless steel. However, stainless steel cable swaged with zinc plated copper sleeves are time tested in both land-based and marine applications worldwide, and do satisfy loading holding and corrosion resistance standards for many typical applications. Strict adherence to coating types outlined in the government standard MS51844 is critical for regulated applications such as airplane manufacturing and military contracts. These fittings shouldn’t be used for overhead lifting applications. It is always recommended to get a qualified person to design and approve your application before using rigging assemblies. Please let us know if you have any questions or comments, Have a great day!
Thanks for the added detail on this specific topic. I had the same question but now I'm still wondering if I can use plain copper on stainless wire rope, just because they're easier to find. Any experience with that combination? Do aluminum sleeves have any place in this discussion? My application is not critical but I tend to try to do things perfect even when it doesn't matter... Thank you!
How do u know when to add a second sleeve? I imagine adding a second sleeve brings efficiency up to 100 %. Additionally are u suggesting that a single sleeve on 1/8 cable will actually holds 1800 lbs ?
Adding another sleeve will not reliably add to termination efficiency. The load will be held almost exclusively by 1 of the 2 sleeves, then it will shear and the same load will be held by the other sleeve. Depending on how tensioned the spacing is between the 2 sleeves during assembly, it may shock load the second sleeve causing immediate failure after the first one fails.
Nice video, but why is there distracting music playing when I'm trying to hear what my guy here is saying? I don't get it. It's not even real music, just a constant beat.
anyone have advice on how to break free the crimp fitting without cutting the cable? Made a mistake and need to only adjust it by about 1-2 inches and dont want to run a new cable (umbrella)
unfortunately, once crimped there is no adjusting the cable in the sleeve. You will need to cut the cable, but if you want to use the same cable you can always add a shackle or turnbuckle to take up space.
Are the special tools absolutely necessary? Or is there other ways to do it, without spending 30 some dollars on a tool that will probably only be used once?
I've spent days looking at videos to explain how to use the sleeves and swaging tool. Thank you for making such a complete video on the topic. You're a life saver!
Glad we could help!
You are a credit to your profession and E-Rigging. You just saved me from making a bad mistake.
This is a stroke of marketing genius. I've wondered for years where to get and how to use this hardware. So glad to have found you. I'm on the way to your web site right now.
Give this man a technical award.
Thanks, Bob! I'll wear it proudly!
Redundant to the already posted comments, but can't help myself. This is about the mostest, bestest how to video I have ever come across. Just added you folks to my favorites and saved a screen pic of the crimp chart to my phone. Awesome stuff folks, just plain awesome!!!
Thanks! Glad it helped!
Wow! Incredibly informative and well presented. A lot of thought and effort went into this video. This is how you build confidence in a company and sell product. Well done!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Yeah, no kidding. I learned on the job a decade ago and it never even occurred to me there was a right way beyond that.
Wildly helpful. I was wondering how to get the plastic wrapping into the sleeve. Now I know to cut it off. Thank you!
I was only looking into making a kayak paddle leash with weed whacker line, then this came up. I do work in industrial equipment (torquing and lifting) and learnt probably everything I didn't know about steel cable swaging. I wish we had videos this informative, direct and simple to watch when I started...
Glad you're here now! Many DIYers are unaware of the many applications simple rigging techniques can be applied to. Thanks for the comment!
I thoroughly enjoyed this video. It caught my eye even though I will never have to swage anything, ever ! Now I want the whole set. What a very calm, confident voice you have as well.
Wow I dont think this has anything to do with swagging, I think you just want him lol..No worries you can be honest here!
Have watched several videos on this topic trying to understand the proper technique for swaging. This video was the best by far. Thanks!
Best made and most informative video I have found on the subject! Thank you!
Thanks!
I'm in college to be an aircraft mechanic, and now we're learning about rigging control cables. This channel's videos have been super helpful!
Every amateur radio operator with a tower or a mast should be watching this. Personally, I would like to see it as part of the technicians class license test.
Thanks for the kind words. Too often we find applications where the swage fittings are installed incorrectly. Hopefully more people can watch this quick video to swage properly.
You are correct! So another question would be, do they make sleeves that would match EHS cable sizes? Testing data for them as compared to guy grips would be very good to have also. 73
You guys make the best videos, informative, not dragging and to the point.
Finally a video that explains why swaging even works ! It's those valley bruh!
Tavis Gustafson those valleys are “pitted” bruh.
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What a tremendous instructional video - thank-you! You have certainly set the standard as to how these types of videos should be produced and presented.
Thanks John!
Super helpful. Excellent information about zinc copper sleeves vs aluminum on stainless wire rope (5:00 into video). Thanks E-Rigging!
Thanks for watching! Glad it was helpful
Awesome. Brief, to the point, and filled with excellent tips. Now I need to go find some zinc/copper swages to match my stainless steel wire rope...
Me too!
AMAZING VIDEO. now this is a premium content with perfect presentation. thank you.
Great video -- right to the point and no extraneous info!
Excellent. That is how a technical presentation should be. Thank you!
Well done. I learned a lot. Quick and thorough. Thank you.
Glad it was helpful!
Awesome video. One stop shop for all things cable. Even covered vinyl coated! Also they’re website is very competitive in terms of pricing just so everyone knows!
That was great, just what I wanted to know. Thanks for the very professional presentation from the knowledgeable gentleman.
the course of the video answered any possible questions I was going to have, thank you!
Thanks, We're glad we could help out!
i agree. without over talking.
Who had the bright idea to play loud music while we were trying to listen to the comentary? I really wanted to listen but gave up after a few minutes.
Just means you're easily distracted. Train on some meditation. It will help clear the noise ;)
I agree the music is distracting but I don’t find it that loud.
I only noticed the music until you spoke against it😂
Fantastic explanation. Quick and thorough. Well done. Thanks for the help.
Thanks for such a well presented, informative video; answered all my questions!
How long would an aluminium swage sleeve on steel cable last vs zinc-copper? References?
I need rings to keep my titanium stove pipe together thats rolled up. Could you please tell me what you would recommend?
Excellent. Very informative and well-presented. Thank you.
What are the maximum allowable widths after swaging 1/8" wire rope with an aluminum stop button and with an aluminum hourglass sleeve?
You are a very good presenter! (from a retired video producer)
Thank you!
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Thank you so much for making this very informative video. I have a vinyl coated stainless steel rope that has diameter of 1/16 bare wire and 3/32 diameter coated. And I bought sleeves for 3/32 diameter. But now, I learned that I should cut the vinyl before putting on the sleeve. Is it okay to still use the 3/32 sleeve since it will anyway flatten upon swaging?
same. i just learned about the cutting of the vinyl coating as well
Forget about the crimping sleeve, I was lost with this handsome!
How much weaker is the connection if the vinyl is left on? What percentage range would you estimate? I only need around 15% of the working load for my application but I did it over the vinyl. 1/8" cable
Good question. Vinyl coating should always be stripped prior to the swage since the vinyl can loosen and slip out. We've seen lots of swage failures over the years due to leaving the vinyl coating on. So, in your case, we recommend that the cable assembly be replaced. Thanks for the comment and good luck with your project!
What about overhead lifting, such as a platform lift ?
With properly swaged eye-splices, you can successfully suspend rigging overhead. As long as you're not shock-loading and you're within WLL, then you should be fine. You can read more on the blog here bit.ly/3IvgehA
Great video. Thank you very much.
One question, at the start of the video, your loops are very tight and leverage a U shaped loop. On all the demonstrations however, it isn't there.
In order to constantly lift and drop a plow on my ATV using the wench, should I use a small loop with the U shaped tool over and above the sleeve ? Or make the look bigger without the U shape?
Aside from that, great video. I wasn't doing 2 or 3 swages the last 2 times I did this so I probably was loosing cable strength. Learned a lot from your video. Thanks again.
Great question, Phillipe. Wire Rope Thimbles are a great way to protect cable strands from abrasion or crushing that can occur from constant use. While they're not required, many prefer them in an assembly like yours. Thanks for the comment, and we're glad you like the video!
This video is incredibly useful and well done. Thank you!
Awesome! I swage crimp a lot of my fishing rigs this makes more sense in a proper form
thanks for these easy to understand and learn videos, it really helped a lot
Thank you!
Wow thank you for this video I've been doing it wrong for years!
hello mister you are a professional, god bless you from destroyed europe
Thanks. Got a new Rudder control mechanism for a Kayak, foot controls. 1/16 th in. wire. What is that plastic stuff over the end called how it is sized etc.
Hi Joseph. If you're referring to the dead of the cable, we used electrical tape to seize the end.
Thank you so much for this information. Even though it showed me that I have been doing it all wrong.
Glad it helped!
.You answered a lot of my questions . Thank you
Glad to help! Let me know if you have any more questions
aaaand i am returning the aluminum sleeves. Thanks!
What is the standard that specifies this type of sling?
Thanks for the video! Super helpful and well produced. Subscribed
Thanks for the kind words!
Actually The Chicago Flyhouse Inc tested double sleeve 4:33 . turns out it's a waste of time. ADDING SLEEVES DOES NOT INCREASE JOINT STRENGTH. Firstly, in order to be able to perfectly distribute stress force on sleeves you should swage them when wire is under stress(higher than human force) which is unattainable when you work alone and without pulling machines. usually the force distribution is not even 1/10 in most cases(ideal would be 50/50). my guess is that under the stress 1 of the sleeves snaps before dead wire end side starts sliding and then instantly the same force is applied to another sleeve which also gets destroyes (if both sleeves are identical of course) , while in case of standard wire rope clips that does not happen: when 1 clip friction force is less than the load then the dead end wire starts sliding activating other clip friction nad adding it up to ideal 50/50 force distribution, so the joint holds. So the rigidity of the sleeve is its limit. Please, tell me I am wrong.
Can it be used with thimbles?
I just bought some 1/16 stainless wire rope and aluminum sleeves for a light duty application that'll probably never see weather. Will that work or should I try to find the zinc copper sleeves? I found some plain copper but not zinc coated in that size...
Thanks!
Paring metals like stainless and aluminum can make either one corrode. And since you said it will probably never see weather, we suggest changing the stainless wire rope to one that's galvanized. You can shop our 1/16 7x7 galvanized wire rope on our website. Hope this helps!
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That makes sense. Thank you!
@@jerseyshoredroneservices225 Of course! Thanks for the comment!
Excellent video on swaging cables. Thank you for making it.
We are glad that it helped!
THANK YOU FOR THIS REALLY INFORMATIVE VIDEO ASHTON KUTCHER!
Glad it was helpful, and thanks for the ego inflation!
Greatly informative! Especially enjoy learning something new that will make life on our farm easier. Thank You!
Hey, if we can make life a little easier on the farm, then I think we've done our job well! Thanks for watching Christopher!
Can I use this crimping to to crimp mono lines for fishing
Great video. Looked at a different one first and it showed nothing on how the make a proper crimp... thank you erigging...
How do I whip the cut end of the cable? I refer to the black cable ends at 4:55.
Mark, some duck or electrical tape will work just fine!
Exactly what I needed. I appreciate you making this video 🖒👍
Will a 5/32” tool compress 1/8” sleeves to full holding strength?
While you may be able to crimp different sizes together, there is no way to tell how much these fittings can hold when it is not holding the designed cable size. These fittings are designed to be crimped with specific cable and tools.
This is a great video, thanks... any other crimping method if you don't have the tool? thanks
People have come up with lots of other incorrect ways to smash these fittings with hammers or vises, but those methods may fatigue the aluminum sleeve in a way that will promote cracking and failing. Using any other method than an appropriate tool is not recommended as there is no consistency in their load holding ability or fatigue life.
Do you have a table where i can see the swaged dimensions, to check if the crimps were done in a proper way? Thanks.
Thank you , all my questions answered ! You are great sir
I wonder if you could use one of those hydraulic crimpers for electrical connections?
Fantastic info. Love why and what for
What is recommended for a stainless steel cable?
Here's a hint watch the video.
Did a 3/16ths with only 3 stages. How much weaker will it be than with 4? It’s not for overhead or weight bearing application.
Excellent video
🗜🛠 I'm wondering if anyone's found crimping dies with the round bite(s) shown here, for the huge 11 ton hydraulic crimpers?
I see eRigging has a 5 ton hyd crimper tool stating to use the #10 die, which appears to be a round bite, but I don't need another tool just the dies.
Everywhere I look I see hexagonal bites for electric lugs. I suppose if there's nothing premade I could try making a few sizes from steel flat bar.
Thanks for the info. I needed some clarification. I was about to use the sleeves the wrong way :)
How do you stop the ends from fraying? One picture showed what looks like heat shrink on the ends. Any recommendations?
excellent info vid. Got all the details I needed for a minor project.
Great to hear!
can a get a swaging tool for 3/8 wire rope that can be used in either a vice or shop press rather than the big bolt cutter type
Hi! Good question. We do carry a bench-style Tyler Tool swager however, it will only swage 1/16, 3/32, 1/8, 5/32, and 3/16.
5:00 According to MS51844 zinc plated copper sleeves should be used on steel cable and tin plated copper or stainless steel sleeves should be used on stainless steel cable (CRES).
Yes, @catranger01, MS51844 does call for Tin plated copper sleeves when using stainless steel cable because Tin does have a slightly less corrosive reaction than Zinc when in contact with stainless steel. However, stainless steel cable swaged with zinc plated copper sleeves are time tested in both land-based and marine applications worldwide, and do satisfy loading holding and corrosion resistance standards for many typical applications. Strict adherence to coating types outlined in the government standard MS51844 is critical for regulated applications such as airplane manufacturing and military contracts. These fittings shouldn’t be used for overhead lifting applications. It is always recommended to get a qualified person to design and approve your application before using rigging assemblies. Please let us know if you have any questions or comments, Have a great day!
Thanks for the added detail on this specific topic. I had the same question but now I'm still wondering if I can use plain copper on stainless wire rope, just because they're easier to find. Any experience with that combination?
Do aluminum sleeves have any place in this discussion?
My application is not critical but I tend to try to do things perfect even when it doesn't matter...
Thank you!
How do u know when to add a second sleeve? I imagine adding a second sleeve brings efficiency up to 100 %. Additionally are u suggesting that a single sleeve on 1/8 cable will actually holds 1800 lbs ?
Excellent video by the way
Adding another sleeve will not reliably add to termination efficiency. The load will be held almost exclusively by 1 of the 2 sleeves, then it will shear and the same load will be held by the other sleeve. Depending on how tensioned the spacing is between the 2 sleeves during assembly, it may shock load the second sleeve causing immediate failure after the first one fails.
this video is great, thanks for not wasting my time
Helpful information, thank you for sharing !!
No thimbles?
Una pregunta resiste una guaya de 1/8 gracias si me responde en español
Thanks for the video, off to re cable my popup camper
Thanks for this great vid.
It’s exactly what I was looking for! 🎉
Awesome! Glad it was helpful!
Nice video, but why is there distracting music playing when I'm trying to hear what my guy here is saying? I don't get it. It's not even real music, just a constant beat.
I know right im
Can hear him perfectly.
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Excellent put downs. First class, really. But no answers. Any answers?
Dónde puedo conseguir esa herramienta
Amazing video, very professional, thank you!
Thank you very much!
excelent video and presentation easy to follow understand...
Glad it was helpful!
OUTSTANDING video with valuable information!
anyone have advice on how to break free the crimp fitting without cutting the cable? Made a mistake and need to only adjust it by about 1-2 inches and dont want to run a new cable (umbrella)
unfortunately, once crimped there is no adjusting the cable in the sleeve. You will need to cut the cable, but if you want to use the same cable you can always add a shackle or turnbuckle to take up space.
Can 7x1 wire ropes use an aluminum sleeve/ferrule? or will it slip away under tension? i´ve been having this problem. Thanks!!!
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Which is best to add cable to cable already on winch
Are the special tools absolutely necessary? Or is there other ways to do it, without spending 30 some dollars on a tool that will probably only be used once?
No. You can weave the rope together very easily without tools, extra parts, or anything, really
Valuable piece of information 5:00👌🏿👍🏿
Hi am looking for a swage for 3/16" and 1/4"
perfect explanation, thanks a lot! (next time please without any kind of music!)
Can you use an aluminum ferrule on galvanized aircraft cable?
Yes, you can!
Great video! this series is very helpful
Thanks so much! Let us know if there are any other instructional videos we might be able to make to help you out.
This video makes me feel old because when I was taught rigging we learnt how to splice wire ropes.
Everything i needed to know, thanks!
No problem!
What is the black materiel called at the end of the braided wire to prevent it from unraveling any further?
We use electrical tape in this video.