He is opening the lock to the future, the hardest one to pick, the one in which we have to forget the past and advance into better ways that will benefit us all.
@@iTube2772 Based on what he said at the beginning, he was there in person. Audience saw him like normal, that's why he asked them not to take pictures. He wasn't too worried about security community knowing how he looks, he just didn't want his pictures on the internet for crazies to see
the moment I realized he won't show his face I was off.. come on that's why we were all here. He's not a lawyer anymore and there were probably enough people around such that he's now anyways not anonymous anymore.
@@RandomUser2401 Can't argue with that; it's the principles of the people involved which struck me as honorable. In truth it's a bit hypocritical of LPL because concealing his face leads to both the Streissand Effect and it utilizes Security Through Obscurity, which he preaches against. Just look to Administrative Results to see how that method works out with high subscriber counts. I still think LPL and the audience were honorable and respectful; that should be the standard, but it isn't.
The little giggles from time to time are precious. We usually only hear LPL in his regular neutral or slightly sarcastic voice, but hearing him laugh here is refreshing.
On the other hand, his videos often feature well-timed humour, and this presentation kinda confirms that the author is a jolly fellow with a good sense of that very humour
I clicked on the video thinking "Yay, we finally get to see the man, the myth, the legend!". I was wrong. None the less, this was an excellent, fun and insightful talk.
LPL talking about how he makes videos short so people don't feel like they're investing too much time, while we're here watching an hour long lecture from him
I haven't had a thought shorter than 15 minutes in my life. I had a colleague I worked with about some 20 years ago. He'd ask me some technical question. Then and I would go on for 3 or 4 hours. He'd stopped me right there. He'd say "Dammit Jerry, please! When I asked ya what time it is, don't build me a f@k$¥€g clock!!"
I saw something today that I never thought I would witness: the Lock Picking Lawyer actually failed to open a lock. But seriously, this was a great keynote. I was riveted from beginning to end. He's an excellent speaker.
@@phenixslayer21 yes, hence why he said he would then move on to another method. The lock can be defeated, but the tool wasn't the most effective for the job in this case. Hence why no locksmith just carries one tool when they go to open a lock. They will have a whole inventory of tooling and many methods.
Hiring the person that breaks computer security has been a long tradition in that industry. Blaming the victim (or shooting the messenger) is the tradition in physical security.
I think the two industries have two totally different ethos, LPL already mentioned a bunch of that of course. I feel like computer security and software dev having so much origin in the academic and hacking(of both hat colors) worlds, that sharing hacks and security holes was just par the course of the culture and the nature of the industry when you consider beta testing and QA teams exist to have software tossed them and get told to break it and write down how they broke it. That said small number exceptions exist, I think some lock companies usually younger ones have sent LPL locks. Hes torn them a new keyhole and their response was to redesign and eliminate their error.
There's 2 other reasons that he didn't mention, though. 1. When breaking or picking a physical lock, you need to be on site. Physical locks just aren't attacked by millions of hackers and their script kiddy brothers from around the world 24/7 like servers on the internet. 2. Most locks, esp for bike and padlocks, just get broken instead of picked. So, my guess is that these companies leave those vulnerabilities in because it doesn't matter anyway. You hear of cellar break ins all the time, but they always snip off the padlocks with massive tools, they don't bother with trying to comb or pick them.
100% agree. He seems out of his natural environment yet put together an awesome talk and great presentation. As an introvert myself (which I'm may be wrong in assuming he is), I know this feeling so well. This was probably significantly more difficult than putting one of his vids together and if he sees this, thank you and well done sir. Smashed it.
Amazed how well he overcame it and absolutely smashed the lecture. Nerves don't mean a thing when you're creating something as interesting as this. Well done LPL
Seeing as the beaver is one of the few locks he couldn't open, I think I'll be putting my valuables in a gumball machine from now on. Excellent presentation. And I feel sorry for him that he's got to inspect his packages because of random internet idiots.
@@jasonbender2459 that was my immediate thought as well, ive seen people being bugged/tracked/houses burned down for doing stuff that endangers less potential profit, i'm sure atleast one massive conglomerate has their sights on him
If Master Lock can"t be arsed to correct the flagged, and basic, issues, I'm pretty sure they're not competent to silence their main critic. 😅 I actually believe they are just filling the mass market role whilst providing easy access to "most" (I never said "services") people who know better: LPL has always been a proponent of the 'image/fallacy of security' issue but it seems like it is based on more than just the economics of any lock company. Real locks aren't hard and they are available. For decent prices. Help the people you care about by sorting their locks. 👍
"Showing criminals how to steal from people", Instead his videos have taught me to pick a lock maker who actually cares about making life hard on criminals. Funny thing about runtime of his videos, They have now become an image of how good or bad a lock is.
Right? The Masterlock vid that was 5 minutes was all about the good cores in the plastic cases for lock out tag out while the terrible cores are in the consumer products. I had such high hopes but learned something else.
Great presentation. He mentions the poor mindset of lock designers. It reminded me of a story in one of the books of great physicist Richard Feynman. He was working in a government lab during the Manhattan project (atom bomb research), when he noticed that the combination locks on the safes in the military staff's offices were flawed (locking the door caused the dial to move in a predictable way which allowed one to infer the combination). He pointed this out to a senior official, along with a way to avoid the problem (randomly turn the dial after locking the door). However, instead of passing this useful advice along to the staff, he ordered them instead to make sure Dr. Feynman wasn't ever left alone in a room with a safe!
There are two types of lock makers: those that want to make a secure lock, and those that want to make money. Secure locks are expensive, so few people ever buy them. (they also last forever, so again, you sell few of them.) In the Feynman case, it's _much_ easier to secure the man than it would be to get tens of thousands of people to change their behavior.
Read book"Surely You're Joking, Mr. Feynman!" He was trying to get security to actually secure bomb info. Was part of the team making the bomb during WW2. Very funny guy. Must read history/bio.
I once had a neighbour that locked themselves out of their home, I saw they were struggling to find a way in, I went over and explained that I am a "locksport" fan and that I have an extensive kit of tools, they were on the phone to a locksmith that told them it would cost them £200.00 to come out and open the door, I walked over and bump keyed their lock on my third bump. They phoned the locksmith to cancel the appointment, the locksmith insisted on still coming over as obviously the lock was not secure enough. The neighbour asked if I could hang about. The locksmith was told that if I could open the "new secure" lock before it was fitted then he would not charge them for the call out. He turned up with a new lock, I bumped it on my first attempt and he went away all huffy. I was just pure luck it happened that way. The locksmith said he would drill out the old lock and fit a new one.... easy money for a locksmith, bumping a lock gives me a greater smile.
So he forced himself to come out after an appointment was canceled? And still tried to charge someone else money based on your skill set? What kind of greasy shit is that?
Man, I can pick most locks but I’ve tried that bump key trick and had 0 luck lol. Thanks for the story, I could see the entire event unfold while reading.
I am not a lock picker. I watched this entire presentation and have watched HUNDREDS of his videos and will continue to do so. He have not wasted one second of my time.
As a student I worked on campus at my university in their tech support. We mostly managed AV equipment and classroom tech. My boss always said "there is no safe lock, and these locks are only there to keep the honest people honest. If they want to get in, they can easily get in". His meaning behind it was that all the locks on campus were mainly just to prevent crimes of opportunity.
@@JuxZeil he actually wasn't a teacher, just a manager that ran the department. But yes, he was very wise and was the sort that loved to share everything they know with others.
As much as I love locking picking lawyer if every single person who came to his channel had to watch this video first he wouldn't have many subscribers 59 minutes, like locked picking lawyer said, is a hard ask right off the bat...
You hit a homerun putting this video up. Great thinking on your part to have him speak. He can always show what complacency gets you. Really happy to see that you seen the parallel in the industries.
Watching this video, I was reminded of something I read about Islam once: "Everything that is not haram, is halal." Why? Because it mirrors the "I don't care what it was made for, I care what it can do" almost perfectly. Yeah old Moe was a terrible person, but in some ways he really was ahead of his time.
@@Nerobyrne judaism has the same rule. After all, it's a neccessary concept for any system of laws. We can't plan for everything. Our designs won't cover every situation, and trying to do that will only yield an impractical result. A book of laws a million pages long, or a security system that takes up too much time and effort to be worthwhile. And in both cases something will inevitably be missed.
@@Jacob-mq3mh I dunno, seems like Christianity is more like: "If it's not allowed, it's forbidden", which is basically the opposite. I've known tons of fundamentalist Christians that consider everything people enjoy that isn't worshipping God "idols", or some other term that they picked from the "good book".
@@Nerobyrne Pretty much all of them miss the main point of it all. They're supposed to follow the example of Jesus and his selfless ways. I don't know any that do that.
@@PlasticCogLiquid Considering Jesus was a Rabbi in that time it seems like Christians really missed their mark. It's more or less a religion that has been used to start wars. There are a lot of Christians who do good though and I can't act like they don't exist.
What a great point on not wasting the viewers' time. There's nothing I hate more than a TH-cam video where the creator repeats the same thing, over and over again, just so they can meet whatever minimum time threshold TH-cam has set to get increased ad revenue. Ironically, despite this presentation being an hour long, it was entertaining the whole way through.
I'm a security guard, and the building I work in has about 4 dozen badge readers, each with there own set of authorized badge numbers. Different people have access to different places in the building. Makes sense, right? The problem? Every single one of them can be opened with a magnet. And what's worse is that I'm not sure whether or not management knows about this, and frankly, I'm too scared of losing my job to tell them about it.
@@GeneralNickles Can't you make an anonymous email account? Then start sending an email about the topic to all the higher-ups every week until someone reacts
Maybe you should take this up with the head of security (if that's not you) discuss this with him/her, and draw a plan from that and move forward to the CEO or the person responsible. For me personally i'd be more angry if a guard "at my company" didn't inform me of any security issues just out of fear of his/her job, you know. Then again, i'm not an American so my point of view is maybe not theirs
This is a new perspective I never saw from LPL. He’s doing a public service by exposing flaws in physical security, in a work where no one else want to even talk about these issues. Fantastic
@@Entropy67 Exactly, he's doing white hat hacking where the manufacturers all in blindfolds and their only goal is making the cheapest lock that appears hard to hack.
Such a great talk too... Literally everyone in the industry should hear this. Additionally, I could listen to that voice ramble on for hours on end (even reading the phone book, for instance. lol)
I like how even though video has been cut, subtitles still say the iconic „that’s all I have for you today”. It blows my mind, that a random video of some random guy picking open some random padlock, led me to getting deeper into lock mechanisms, how they work and in the end, changed the way I look at life and think about everything around. „I don’t care what it was intended for, I care what it can be used for” is literally a life changer. Thank you, LPL.
The hacker mindset struck right home with me. In my youth I liked hacking and cracking programs and then later I became a programmer for a while, mainly for online games. I noticed something quite early on, I was somewhat slower than other programmers in every team I was in. I thought maybe I was bad at it or not smart enough, but no. It wasn't the case. I just made sure in every function and class that i wrote that the variables would never overflow, pointers could never go crazy and error codes would be properly sent back if someone else tried to do shit with my code that it wasn't intended for. I always thought when writing a piece of code, how would I exploit or break this, and then pre fixed it. Not that things didn't go unnoticed now and then, but it made my code less prone to do bad things and my programming slower.
Same here, when writing code I often find myself wondering about the things could go If the code was written in some other way around and what if I just let it be and be done with it.
@@youkofoxy Yes and no. Things didn't break often, but when they did and wasn't just me not paying attention, it would confuse the hell out of me. I feel it is better to program with some foresight.
So true. I learned Beginner's All-Purpose Symbolic Instruction Code in the early 80's; Sophmore year in high-school. Routinely, everyone in class, would take a crack at thinking/executing ways to make your "dream code" fall flat on it's ass. It not only taught you good code discipline, but how to think outside of your box and everyone else in class.
As a security engineer of digital things, it’s amazing to hear the LPL talk about the mindset of the attacker. I love that he emphasizes the necessity of creativity. I think he inspired me, and hopefully lots of others, into realizing how important our mindsets are when thinking of attack vectors and responses.
this guy revealed itself as a very inteligent, wise and modest person by making video about something most of the viewers were not even remotely interested. inspiring
As I think is the case with many people, I started the video with the intention of maybe watching/listening for a couple minutes at most, and ended up sitting here watching the whole thing (and not doing *anything else* as well) because I found the presentation so interesting. And I'm not even a subscriber to his channel; I've only casually watched a couple dozen of his videos here and there. The presentation was just so interesting, though, that I couldn't help but finish the whole thing. Good job, LPL!
I'd say his 2 minute video philosophy is what got me to watch this entire hour. I haven't wasted time on his channel watching filler on other videos, and know he gives the facts straightforward and clear, so an hour of him talking was quite entertaining and knowledgable. Great work LPL!
That is exactly what happened to me. I am his subscriber and know well his mostly boring, sometimes entertaining presentation style. I checked this video lasts almost an hour and I don't have time to watch it. Just checking how he sounds in different context outside his channel. And here I am an hour later writing this comment.
LPL is the bee's knees! That was one great speech. Any lock company who hires LPL as a consultant to improve their security will walk away with the market.
Noone will hire him. Their designers know weaknes of their construction, they simply do not want to change. Only way how to change their mind is not to buy these " locks".
Maybe, maybe not. Fixing the flaws that he brings up in lock designs increases costs. That is one of the major issues in all of this, and one of the reasons lock makers don't make more secure products. Additionally, a more secure lock isn't necessarily going to help. A thief who wants into your house is going to bring a hammer, not a lockpick. The door could be unlocked, they will smash a window and climb in around back. They aren't even gonna try the lock. Finally, if locksmiths make better locks then they have to pick those better locks when idiots inevitably lock themselves out of things. If they can't pick the lock, they can't charge the insane fee to do so and even if they can they have to work far harder than showing up with a comb or a bump key or something.
@@donnhussey568 Agree. anyway there are a couple of more situations. Low level " Locks" are atracting tiefs to enter withou trace. Also for isurance purposes it is better to have broken glass than picked lock. I have good (not best) locks on my properties but it was my decision. A lot of people are buying what technically is not matching producer promises. In our country to advertise product not in accordance with reality is against law. I think only way forward fill suit agains producers for not fair marketing. Unfortunatelly it is too expensive solution for consumers.
This man is a class act. I only know him from his YT channel and now this presentation but I get the vibe he's a real straight shooter with a good heart and a refreshingly dry and subtle sense of humor. I don't think there's a thing phony about him or what he stands for. With all the shitty people in this world who lie, misdirect, and profit off of false projections, it's good to know people like LPL exist and they are out there making a difference.
Great talk. I think this is the first time I have ever heard the LPL sound nervous. I do a lot of public speaking on technical topics, and I recognize the symptoms. Great job, tough talk, well presented.
I almost always used to wear an anorak and a few layers underneath since no mater what anti-perspirant I used, you could see my armpit sweat even on the anorak
@@nooboftheyear7170 use special underwear and use women hygiene pads for your sweat zones. i promise it helps enormously. stick to textil not your skin pls!!
@@giacomocasanova2893 i wouldn't need the underwear but the pads sound interesting. I shall have a hard time explaining to some woman why i need those pads though! At times like these I start to think that I should have married someone :/
@@nooboftheyear7170 theres special underwear with integrated pads (t shirt + boxers) and you can further improve by using pads. you can sweat about 4 litres (1gallon) before there is anything visible. don‘t think twice about buying them. could be for your gf right?
Usually never comment on your video but as a person which has held literally hundreds of talk from 5 to 30 minuts I must say that you did a really good talk. Perfect blend of comedy and reason, length Perfect, good voice and articulated. Very pleased to say this is one I will come back for. Good job keep it up !
I have been in IT since 1970s and the biggest vulnerability has been the OS vendors, like MS, that put holes in the OS for law enforcement, that other people find and exploit.
To quote CGPGrey: "There are no doors that angels can open, and demons cannot." (Assuming of course that the LEOs are actually angels, which is debatable.)
A great crossover between physical security and cyber security. The most important takeaway is to think like an attacker, not a designer. This applies in both worlds.
I fully support his anonymity reasons, still my head wants to attach a face to the messenger. well i guess, forever he shall be in my head the talking hands that open locks like almost no full body can
LPL's such a good speaker! He literally broke all the "rules" I've been taught in class I'm a marketing student at university right now and I just finished a course about presentations a few months ago. It covered slide design and storytelling all the way to how long presentations should last. It's advised to keep presentations to 20 mins long cuz that's how long how people stick around before they dip, but LPL's so good I didn't even notice that an hour went by! You can never stop learning from this guy! 11/10
The "keep it under xy min" advice really applies to people who are not very proficient at presenting. Its not because "how long how people stick around before they dip", usually (=almost always) the presenter is at fault. Not many people actually know how to select and distribute the information they want to convey to the audience while keeping it fluent for that much time. Its also much harder to prepare and keep on track. You will get into time issues, you will not be able to correctly remember what comes next or what you wanted to say and etc. Also "keeping it short" forces you to learn what information is really important as you cannot just go into a "shotgun mode" and blast full text slides on people for 10 minutes. I have attended presentations from very knowledgable and highly regarded people in their field and some were boring the hell out of the audience after 5minutes while the other were more like LPL here and you actually watched the presentation like it was a good movie in a cinema. For example available on the internet look at the introduction of the original iPhone, or the RTX 2thousand card series introduction. Both much longer than an hour, yet still interesting. And you could argue its "easy" because they have a epic thing to talk about for which everyone is excited before it even starts and also they practiced a lot with a team of professionals. But I once attended a keynote speech from a Professor on a topic of Self-sensing electric drives. It was also about an hour long, but it felt like few minutes even when it was a very specific topic only a specific group of engineers know really well. Its all about experience and depth of knowledge and if you are just starting out, its better to keep it small and focused. And there the "dont exceed xy minutes" is for.
It depends on the topic. Something like this is extremely interesting and enjoyable to listen to. If I had to listen to a 50min presentation from HR about “xyz in the workplace” I’ll want to claw my eyes out.
He also seems to be following rules of presenting to a mass audience. Organic jokes, PowerPoints with very few words and the bulk being his words, live demonstrations, a story; those are all things you’d do to talk about a niche company to a general audience.
I'm not a criminal, but I love watching the LPL for the sake of the 'puzzle-solving' value of how he works around problems. He's right, it is that out-of-the-box kind of hacker mentality and I find it more fascinating than, say, magicians or "illusionists" or even puzzle-solvers. It was a real treat to listen to this extended presentation when I have watched many of his videos and subscribed to his channel for some time and kind of felt in on the joke. Speaking as a Trainer & Presenter I've got to say his technique is immaculate and always fun. My personal favourite was Mrs LPL and the ice cream lock, that cracked me up, but I love his historic lock stories.
That was a wonderful lecture. I loved the history and stories. This was roughly an hour but honestly I could have sat and listened to LPL for 2-3 hours. Everything he discussed I found absolutely fascinating.
Epic and funny talk, i enjoyed it immensely. This lawyer definitely is not boring at all. P.S: I watch his videos often, great content. Made me rethink locks I use and even to attempt learning to lockpick for fun.
"they're not going to watch a 10 minute video of a lock they never heard of" Bowley lock videos instantly come to mind. Those were great. good speech btw
I’m so glad I decided to invest my free time into watching this video. I love getting to see a side of LPL rarely seen outside of videos he’s guest stared in. Don’t get me wrong, we all love the tried and true “here’s a lock, this is where I obtained it, this is the tool I’m using, watch me pick it, now I’ll tell you why it sucks” format but it’s a treat when LPL breaks away from his lock smith persona. Also was caught off guard when we actually got picking content out of this
Hes a lawyer son, he got training in talking all fancy and stuff. No but I love His speaking voice it is awesome makes the videos very entertaining, and educational.
It never occurred to me how much hate and harassment LPL gets. I mean, the dude is actually doing everybody a favor in _every_single_video_, how can anybody not like that. Anyways, all the love to LPL and thanks to SAINTCON for publishing this!
There's people who think he's fake (because they _clearly_ know more about lockpicking than he does) and then there's people like those locksmiths who think consumer ignorance and letting big business do whatever it wants is somehow "moral." It's things like this being so ubiquitous that strain what faith in humanity I have left.
The man is such a legend and is doing an immense public service. It's absolutely absurd that all those involved in locks, from the makers to the people who pick them for a living, will, with a straight face, say that ignorance is the best method for safety. I hope he keeps naming, shaming and humiliating lock makers for as long as he can, or as long as it takes.
I'll admit, I've been watching LPL for a very long time as I appreciate his no-nonsense approach and excellent ability to convey concepts/information through his videos. After watching this one however I have come to the conclusion that he is a very cool guy. @LPL, I appreciate you sharing your knowledge and I actively apply your concepts in service to many nations and many many people. Thank you so much!
After enjoying a few hundred of the LPL’s videos, it was nice to hear him laugh fully, discuss his love of Scotch, and provide context to why he gave up lawyering for something greater.
I dont care about locks and my uppermost pain tollerance ist 15 minutes of youtube video. Just watched 1 hour of video and could watch it all over again... Thank you!
Seeing the title of this I was really concerned LPL was finally showing his face. Thank you for keeping the magic alive and protecting his privacy saintcon
The "What it can do" concept has some great stories behind it. There's an electric wall heater company in Norway who produces glass panel see through, only the fasteners and control panel showing electric wall panel heaters (or produced haven't seen them in a while). And the way these became a thing was one of the engineers at the company standing in front of a soda cabinet at a store, wondering how the doors don't fog over due to the difference in heat between the inside and the outside. Turns out the way they do it is by using a clear film, between two sheets of glass, the film becomes warm when you put electricity into it, and thus the glass will not fog over because it's slightly warmer than the inside of the cabinet. With some research the company figured out how to increase the heat out put, and made a product which was popular to install in places where you need heat, but also want to reduce the impact of heating implements on the visuals as much as possible (Such as old buildings etc)
This was a great video with some very good points. I've always appreciated LPL's picks and humour, but here there is so much more: an understanding of the failings of an entire industry and some killer anecdotes. And showing his human side as well with the failed lock picking. This long format really shows the strength of the Lock Picking Lawyer. Thank you!
Longtime viewer of LPL and worked in netsec for about 16 years, mostly for corporate lawyers. LPL reminded me that I once told one of the fee earning lawyers that I viewed them as hackers of the law, because they were so adept at finding flaws in law and legal documents, to the benefit of their clients, even to the point where laws were patched because of them. 😉
I was sceptical I would make it to the end of this as I have the attention span of a dead fish. But I listened to every word and enjoyed it immensly. This should be the intro to your channel! amazing lecture / speech.
Only because of TLPL do I realize that these locks and so many more are just horrible. I work at Home Depot, and I have looked over our entire security section. I regularly straight up tell people that our locks are not very good if you know what you are doing, and recommend things we don't carry, since their security is far more important than me trying to make a sale. Also cause of you I've become very interested in locks, so thank you so much for making me and my customers safer!
I finally watched this video after following LPL for at least a year. I’m retired now, and I participated in many corporate communications training classes in which I was introduced to terms like re-windowing, shifting your paradigm (with or without a clutch), and thinking outside the box. Metaphors which became instant cliches. This presentation is so refreshing because it doesn’t use a metaphor to ask a simple question.
I loved this video. He is a wise man with a great sense of humor. I'm a Bridge Engineer Retired. I saw mistakes repeated when new managers took the new engineers down the wrong road.
There's a reason why LPL has such a large following. Not because there are 3,5+ million lock picking nerds out there, but because of his message given at the end ("loose ends"). That mindset is what can "save" "society" (in the loosest possible cliché possible).
As it happens, when he was talking about how to reach people, one of the things he mentioned was the scammer's boot. Being from Chicago, that was the video that caught my attention and I've been watching ever since.
There's definitely a pull that way, of "we see the problem now let's see the solution" Also, a lot of it is the succinct presentation style and the infectious enthusiasm. I never knew an American Lock 5000 series was a such a neat lock to have. I figure that nearly any lock can be opened in a minute or less with a cordless angle grinder, even without neighbour fuss by wearing stripes and safety glasses,- which is probably the answer to his question about why we're still using old core designs - it's not the weakest link nor the common mode of attack to use picks in the first place. People will just break them somehow or other. Still, as a regular consumer only viewing locks as utility items they were designed to be, I didn't know "nice locks" were even an appreciable thing before watching and then owning one.
As a software developer, one of the "jokes" I make about bugs is "Working As Implemented" which can also be said about many locks and other security products, both physical and virtual.
After being disappointed not seeing the LPL, merely sat phone down to listen like an audiobook. Quickly I realised how much LPL sounds like Paul Lynde, especially after saying a funny, then immediately chuckling. Used to love watching Paul's funny wit on the Hollywood Squares.
I've put off watching this because of the length, because I wanted to be sure I could do it in one sitting without interruptions! Very nice hearing LPL elaborating a bit and adding some stories fleshing out points made many times in his short videos.
The point about asking questions about what things can do and not what they're designed to do is a key component in modern innovation. And I anyone find themselves in a development process I highly recommend assigning one or more members of the team to take on the role of the "Fool". Asking all the weird questions and trying to push the team towards assumptions that are wrong and realizing the things they didn't know that they didn't know.
This is why in software development you never have the engineers that write the software do QA. They’d find nothing wrong. You must have a separate QA team that’s not involved in the design and development of the said software.
@@nauy That's exactly how bugs/exploits in games get put into production, too. While people who are involved in development can find nothing wrong, the general public (with the benefit of being a vastly larger audience) who are actually searching for exploits will find them, sometimes on day 1. QA testing teams need to have zero knowledge of that development process, including on how/what bugs might have been fixed between sessions.
@@CalculatedRiskAK I do not think they still hire people outside to do QA anymore. Years ago it was tons of QA tester jobs for people but now its completely gone.
Security through obscurity was the motto at Apple for years. Until their laptops took off among college students and it turned out that they can be hacked just as easily when there is a reason for hackers to get the job done.
I remember those days. Apple was bragging that there were practically no viruses for their machines and security breaches were pretty much non-existent, and I had early Apple adopters be rather smug about it when I was talking to them. I pointed out two things: first, Apple (at the time) represented a small percentage of the personal computer market, and second, that this was when the stereotype was established that Apple was used by "creative" types. This might sound cool--if you're a creative type--but it also meant that if you wanted to get into the system that actually did something it would be worth hacking, you didn't bother with Apple because honestly, who cared? A whole lot of people suspected that "hackproof" reputation would end if/when Apple became accepted as a _business_ machine. Which, as more and more of a person's life moved electronic and online, they did even for individuals. And that's exactly what happened.
@@keith6706 I obtained my first Apple computers, just after OS X 10.0 was released, mainly because they were so hackable. I had been running Linux for a year or so beforehand, which helped tremendously, since both operating systems have fairly similar roots. The command line in MacOS is surprisingly useful for those who can take time to find their way around it.
@@dvhh Not as good as they make it out to be. Company I work for has a lot of company-owned iphones and ipads for its field workers, and apple's iOS software is constantly being patched, un-patched, and re-patched as they fix glaring security holes. They just don't get publicized as much these days.
This was just AWESOME!! Been a long time LPL watcher. First time hearing that laugh!! The long talk with him inserting his humor, gave such a heart warming human element to a man who is literally at machine at picking locks. Well done LPL 👏👏👏
I have enjoyed this video immensely. What a fantastic venue for LPL to be at. They are used to cyber threats being challenged, but probably never thought that their own homes and belongings were SO vulnerable. Thank you, LPL for enlightening us to the history and blind sightedness of such a common industry. Please keep shining the light on the stiff-necked ways of this industry.
No, it's one of those complication videos where he picks a bunch of locks sequentially. Well, there was ONE item he couldn't open, but that was just a fluke!
Thank you for respecting LPL's privacy, I actually have never seen anyone do this and I've watched most DefCons etc. I could listen to LPL all day long.
I agree. I just kept on thinking on how he roasts "security by obscurity" but has to resort to this himself. Yes, the internet is a weird place. I guess you cannot even post a funny cat video on TH-cam without getting death threats. Or less-than-subtle advances from some groupies. Which might lead to death threats from your partner ;)
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😱 A 53 minute video from the LockPicking Lawyer. That must be a really good lock.
The best kind, opening the minds of the audience to fallings of an industry
Besides opening minds, I believe one of the live demos also has at least one lock is unable to open with the tool that is being used.
He had to demonstrate that it wasn’t a fluke
He is opening the lock to the future, the hardest one to pick, the one in which we have to forget the past and advance into better ways that will benefit us all.
@@dragen3 Had he just brought the tool Bosnian Bill and I made ....
What a great talk, a huge props to Saintcon for respecting his privacy
how did they do that?
@@iTube2772 By not showing his face?
Did the participants get to see his face or not?
@@Musicman9492 i mean technically how did they do it? what did the audience see and where was LPL at that time?
@@iTube2772 Based on what he said at the beginning, he was there in person. Audience saw him like normal, that's why he asked them not to take pictures. He wasn't too worried about security community knowing how he looks, he just didn't want his pictures on the internet for crazies to see
LPL: "Yes, I know I'm a little bit boring."
Also LPL: *Ironically makes for a VERY entertaining nearly hour-long video*
the moment I realized he won't show his face I was off.. come on that's why we were all here. He's not a lawyer anymore and there were probably enough people around such that he's now anyways not anonymous anymore.
@@RandomUser2401 I don't remember that being why I first watched this video. It's been a year, though, so I'm not entirely sure.
@@RandomUser2401 If you listened just a little bit longer, you'd have heard LPL's reasoning for having a no-camera rule.
@@FuzedBox yeah I have. And the evil people have clearly already figured out what he looks like. This achieves nothing.
@@RandomUser2401 Can't argue with that; it's the principles of the people involved which struck me as honorable. In truth it's a bit hypocritical of LPL because concealing his face leads to both the Streissand Effect and it utilizes Security Through Obscurity, which he preaches against. Just look to Administrative Results to see how that method works out with high subscriber counts.
I still think LPL and the audience were honorable and respectful; that should be the standard, but it isn't.
The little giggles from time to time are precious.
We usually only hear LPL in his regular neutral or slightly sarcastic voice, but hearing him laugh here is refreshing.
Was kind of strange to hear him laugh like that, and it probably feels so weird because we never hear him laugh in his videos.
On the other hand, his videos often feature well-timed humour, and this presentation kinda confirms that the author is a jolly fellow with a good sense of that very humour
I clicked on the video thinking "Yay, we finally get to see the man, the myth, the legend!". I was wrong. None the less, this was an excellent, fun and insightful talk.
I was surprised weirdos are trying to track him back to his house. I would guess it was angry lock companies looking to pay him a visit.
🤣 I was thinking the same!!
Actually, if you came here when it just came up the video had a moment with a clear reflection of LPL. It was quickly covered up.
@@Praisethesunson Or just a teenager hacker that wants to be better than him on the security game. But we will never know, better be safe than sorry.
The most famous pair of hands in the west.
LPL talking about how he makes videos short so people don't feel like they're investing too much time, while we're here watching an hour long lecture from him
But it is a very valid point.
To the uninitiated, 2 mins is far more palatable than 20
But we're long time fans, it's not our first time we see his vids on our recommended.
@@TheFeldhamster Oh, I agree.
I loved it
But for example, I suggested someone else watch it and all they heard is 50 mins and said hell no
But ... it *feels* like a 3 minute video. Ended way too soon!
As a fan of LBL I was a little put off by how long this video is but I clicked and it flew by. Always interesting.
LPL: "15 minutes is too long. I made my videos shorter than 3 minutes so people would actually watch."
Us: *watching this 53+ minute video*
And being disappointed when it ended. Cheers.
I haven't had a thought shorter than 15 minutes in my life. I had a colleague I worked with about some 20 years ago. He'd ask me some technical question. Then and I would go on for 3 or 4 hours. He'd stopped me right there. He'd say "Dammit Jerry, please! When I asked ya what time it is, don't build me a f@k$¥€g clock!!"
We know LPL, most people don't
He was trying to unlock people's minds.. they take a bit longer than master locks
things I am irrationally proud of: being in the audience for this. And the afterparty.
Oooooh, i am ENVIOUS! Good for you tho :D
@@reyrey5742 How did they prevent anyone from getting a picture?
@@mintymus ehhhm, i guess you have to ask @mavrc for that... I am not the one that was in the audience 😂
@@mintymus They just asked them (and did not announce the speaker in advance).
@@murdo_mck Nice, thanks. He's definitely taking a risk showing his face like that, but it's cool that the people respected it.
I saw something today that I never thought I would witness: the Lock Picking Lawyer actually failed to open a lock. But seriously, this was a great keynote. I was riveted from beginning to end. He's an excellent speaker.
That lock would have been opened. It was the tool that failed.
@@phenixslayer21 makes sense, he did say it was his cheapest version of that tool iirc
To be fair, it WAS his wife's beaver and I think it didn't enjoy public humiliation that much.
@@phenixslayer21 yes, hence why he said he would then move on to another method.
The lock can be defeated, but the tool wasn't the most effective for the job in this case.
Hence why no locksmith just carries one tool when they go to open a lock. They will have a whole inventory of tooling and many methods.
Can open the toughest locks, but defeated by a gumball machine. There's a moral in there.
Not a lawyer, not a lock picker, not a computer security guy, but this was absolutely awesome!
Hiring the person that breaks computer security has been a long tradition in that industry. Blaming the victim (or shooting the messenger) is the tradition in physical security.
Or Shooting the Victim... ;-)
The messenger gets shot in digital security now and then too, but morons who need to lose their jobs, granted.
I think the two industries have two totally different ethos, LPL already mentioned a bunch of that of course. I feel like computer security and software dev having so much origin in the academic and hacking(of both hat colors) worlds, that sharing hacks and security holes was just par the course of the culture and the nature of the industry when you consider beta testing and QA teams exist to have software tossed them and get told to break it and write down how they broke it.
That said small number exceptions exist, I think some lock companies usually younger ones have sent LPL locks. Hes torn them a new keyhole and their response was to redesign and eliminate their error.
Sadly, here in Germany, they have the same approach for digital security.
There's 2 other reasons that he didn't mention, though. 1. When breaking or picking a physical lock, you need to be on site. Physical locks just aren't attacked by millions of hackers and their script kiddy brothers from around the world 24/7 like servers on the internet.
2. Most locks, esp for bike and padlocks, just get broken instead of picked. So, my guess is that these companies leave those vulnerabilities in because it doesn't matter anyway. You hear of cellar break ins all the time, but they always snip off the padlocks with massive tools, they don't bother with trying to comb or pick them.
Ha, it's cute to hear that he is a little nervous. Well done LPL.
So that's why he couldn't get into his wife's Beaver... too many people watching
That constant out of breath sound at the beginning, is caused by his heart racing. Great talk though.
100% agree. He seems out of his natural environment yet put together an awesome talk and great presentation. As an introvert myself (which I'm may be wrong in assuming he is), I know this feeling so well. This was probably significantly more difficult than putting one of his vids together and if he sees this, thank you and well done sir. Smashed it.
It's a completely normal reaction. Everybody has it but the more you put yourself in these situations the more you get used to it and grow.
Amazed how well he overcame it and absolutely smashed the lecture. Nerves don't mean a thing when you're creating something as interesting as this. Well done LPL
Can't believe I just casually watched this for almost an hour and paid attention the entire time. What a great talk.
Dude has a amazing voice, not up to Morgan freeman's voice but his voice is in a tier of it's own.
Right! He's a funny dude tho.
Watching for almost an hour O__O
Am I the only one watching at 2-3x speed? :\
@Eric Blackburn Same, and I have A.D.D and forgot to take my meds!
@@SimonK91 I have to watch all his vids at 1.5/2 speed otherwise I get impatient 🤣
Seeing as the beaver is one of the few locks he couldn't open, I think I'll be putting my valuables in a gumball machine from now on. Excellent presentation. And I feel sorry for him that he's got to inspect his packages because of random internet idiots.
could be the manufacturers of locks he has dissed... lol
@@jasonbender2459 that was my immediate thought as well, ive seen people being bugged/tracked/houses burned down for doing stuff that endangers less potential profit, i'm sure atleast one massive conglomerate has their sights on him
@@rrai1999 good point!
@@rrai1999friendlyjordies suffered that for opposing the gambling industry in Australia
If Master Lock can"t be arsed to correct the flagged, and basic, issues, I'm pretty sure they're not competent to silence their main critic. 😅
I actually believe they are just filling the mass market role whilst providing easy access to "most" (I never said "services") people who know better: LPL has always been a proponent of the 'image/fallacy of security' issue but it seems like it is based on more than just the economics of any lock company. Real locks aren't hard and they are available. For decent prices. Help the people you care about by sorting their locks. 👍
Keynote?! KEYNOTE! This is obviously LOCKPICKNOTE!
He needs to give that speech again just to make sure it wasn't a fluke.
10 speeches and 10 hours later: so as you can see it was not a fluke
Best way to know you’re a public speaker
Got a false set on that speech a little counter rotation
He will do it quicker next time.
LPL's laugh when he makes a joke make this presentation that much better, sat through every second of this and loved it!
Master lock is #1 professional's choice. Remember that
Timestamp?
It’s so cute
I was thinking the same! His laugh is pretty hilarious!
I could do without the adolescent Beavis & Butthead type sex jokes though. I can guess why he didn't get a lot of dates in college.
"Showing criminals how to steal from people", Instead his videos have taught me to pick a lock maker who actually cares about making life hard on criminals. Funny thing about runtime of his videos, They have now become an image of how good or bad a lock is.
With the exception of the 3-5 minute videos in which he picks about a hundred locks
In fairness, those locks are either ones he's very familiar with (American 1100), or utter shite (master lock #3)
@@timothymonk1356 or the ones where he spends 90% of the vid explaining how he got the lock
Right? The Masterlock vid that was 5 minutes was all about the good cores in the plastic cases for lock out tag out while the terrible cores are in the consumer products. I had such high hopes but learned something else.
Me: Finnally a lock that takes 5 minutes! LPL: let me show you 5 ways to open this lock.....
"I can't speak to what you intended but that's certainly not what you wrote." That's a POWER MOVE right there
Great presentation. He mentions the poor mindset of lock designers. It reminded me of a story in one of the books of great physicist Richard Feynman. He was working in a government lab during the Manhattan project (atom bomb research), when he noticed that the combination locks on the safes in the military staff's offices were flawed (locking the door caused the dial to move in a predictable way which allowed one to infer the combination). He pointed this out to a senior official, along with a way to avoid the problem (randomly turn the dial after locking the door). However, instead of passing this useful advice along to the staff, he ordered them instead to make sure Dr. Feynman wasn't ever left alone in a room with a safe!
There are two types of lock makers: those that want to make a secure lock, and those that want to make money. Secure locks are expensive, so few people ever buy them. (they also last forever, so again, you sell few of them.)
In the Feynman case, it's _much_ easier to secure the man than it would be to get tens of thousands of people to change their behavior.
Read book"Surely You're Joking, Mr. Feynman!" He was trying to get security to actually secure bomb info. Was part of the team making the bomb during WW2. Very funny guy. Must read history/bio.
I once had a neighbour that locked themselves out of their home, I saw they were struggling to find a way in, I went over and explained that I am a "locksport" fan and that I have an extensive kit of tools, they were on the phone to a locksmith that told them it would cost them £200.00 to come out and open the door, I walked over and bump keyed their lock on my third bump. They phoned the locksmith to cancel the appointment, the locksmith insisted on still coming over as obviously the lock was not secure enough. The neighbour asked if I could hang about. The locksmith was told that if I could open the "new secure" lock before it was fitted then he would not charge them for the call out. He turned up with a new lock, I bumped it on my first attempt and he went away all huffy. I was just pure luck it happened that way. The locksmith said he would drill out the old lock and fit a new one.... easy money for a locksmith, bumping a lock gives me a greater smile.
This made me smile, thank you good sir
Nice comment good sir
So he forced himself to come out after an appointment was canceled? And still tried to charge someone else money based on your skill set? What kind of greasy shit is that?
@@instrumental I imagine the neighbour agreed to having the lock changed.
Man, I can pick most locks but I’ve tried that bump key trick and had 0 luck lol. Thanks for the story, I could see the entire event unfold while reading.
I am not a lock picker. I watched this entire presentation and have watched HUNDREDS of his videos and will continue to do so. He have not wasted one second of my time.
He’s the reason I got into lockpicking
@Dr. Dave Ikr. If it wasn't thanks to the replayability of videos, I would feel bad from a sheer thought alone that I wasted a second of his time.
It is always interesting to listen to masters of their field, and LPL makes his videos so well.
He is most excellent. Even though I’m not really into locks I like to know how bad they are before I ever put trust in a lock.
Love the going old school and rocking the downward camera segments! Whole message is great, etc.
The way the crowd cheered when he brought out the locks and put them on his table was just great ! :D
As a student I worked on campus at my university in their tech support. We mostly managed AV equipment and classroom tech. My boss always said "there is no safe lock, and these locks are only there to keep the honest people honest. If they want to get in, they can easily get in". His meaning behind it was that all the locks on campus were mainly just to prevent crimes of opportunity.
And I bet you learned a lot from him without even knowing it. He sounds like the sort of teacher you want to listen to. 😎
@@JuxZeil he actually wasn't a teacher, just a manager that ran the department. But yes, he was very wise and was the sort that loved to share everything they know with others.
In my view, all locks are there to stop crimes of opportunity.
When someone really wants to enter, they will.
@@lesath7883 "Where there's a will, there's a way." Not sure where this quote comes from.
@@Peekofwar If there is a will, then it is no longer a crime of opportunity.
Big fan of TLPL. Great keynote. He's right, the industry is broken.
This should be the preamble to LPLs channel. Gives soooo much insight to why he does what he does. Great speech 😊
insight*
Insight as well. ;)
@@noahway13 It's working
@@noahway13 this might be the dumbest thing ive read today
As much as I love locking picking lawyer if every single person who came to his channel had to watch this video first he wouldn't have many subscribers
59 minutes, like locked picking lawyer said, is a hard ask right off the bat...
Normally I find it difficult to listen to long presentations. This one is very easy to listen to. Very engaging and fun.
He has a very pleasant voice to listen to.
You hit a homerun putting this video up. Great thinking on your part to have him speak. He can always show what complacency gets you. Really happy to see that you seen the parallel in the industries.
Watching this video, I was reminded of something I read about Islam once:
"Everything that is not haram, is halal."
Why?
Because it mirrors the "I don't care what it was made for, I care what it can do" almost perfectly.
Yeah old Moe was a terrible person, but in some ways he really was ahead of his time.
@@Nerobyrne judaism has the same rule. After all, it's a neccessary concept for any system of laws. We can't plan for everything. Our designs won't cover every situation, and trying to do that will only yield an impractical result. A book of laws a million pages long, or a security system that takes up too much time and effort to be worthwhile. And in both cases something will inevitably be missed.
@@Jacob-mq3mh I dunno, seems like Christianity is more like:
"If it's not allowed, it's forbidden", which is basically the opposite.
I've known tons of fundamentalist Christians that consider everything people enjoy that isn't worshipping God "idols", or some other term that they picked from the "good book".
@@Nerobyrne Pretty much all of them miss the main point of it all. They're supposed to follow the example of Jesus and his selfless ways. I don't know any that do that.
@@PlasticCogLiquid Considering Jesus was a Rabbi in that time it seems like Christians really missed their mark. It's more or less a religion that has been used to start wars. There are a lot of Christians who do good though and I can't act like they don't exist.
What a great point on not wasting the viewers' time. There's nothing I hate more than a TH-cam video where the creator repeats the same thing, over and over again, just so they can meet whatever minimum time threshold TH-cam has set to get increased ad revenue.
Ironically, despite this presentation being an hour long, it was entertaining the whole way through.
I'm a security guard, and the building I work in has about 4 dozen badge readers, each with there own set of authorized badge numbers. Different people have access to different places in the building. Makes sense, right?
The problem?
Every single one of them can be opened with a magnet.
And what's worse is that I'm not sure whether or not management knows about this, and frankly, I'm too scared of losing my job to tell them about it.
@Koowluh there's camera's everywhere.
Ahh yes, the old "shoot the messenger" mentality is always something to consider.
@@GeneralNickles Can't you make an anonymous email account? Then start sending an email about the topic to all the higher-ups every week until someone reacts
Aha, and there is master badge (that could open all of places), used by CEO ... and janitor.
Maybe you should take this up with the head of security (if that's not you) discuss this with him/her, and draw a plan from that and move forward to the CEO or the person responsible. For me personally i'd be more angry if a guard "at my company" didn't inform me of any security issues just out of fear of his/her job, you know. Then again, i'm not an American so my point of view is maybe not theirs
This is a new perspective I never saw from LPL. He’s doing a public service by exposing flaws in physical security, in a work where no one else want to even talk about these issues. Fantastic
LockPickingLawyer is the Batman of locks, exposing the corrupt lock companies. 🦇
That's the concept of white hat hacking lol
Except he's a hacker in a world where no one cares about security and all the locks are jokes 💀
@@Entropy67 Exactly, he's doing white hat hacking where the manufacturers all in blindfolds and their only goal is making the cheapest lock that appears hard to hack.
Finally! A LPL video longer than a couple minutes! What I've always been hoping for! Thanks for doing this!
Such a great talk too... Literally everyone in the industry should hear this. Additionally, I could listen to that voice ramble on for hours on end (even reading the phone book, for instance. lol)
I love how at the end they put "so that's all I have for you today" in the subtitles even though he didn't say it
This was a legacy of copying the subs from before an edit
I like how even though video has been cut, subtitles still say the iconic „that’s all I have for you today”. It blows my mind, that a random video of some random guy picking open some random padlock, led me to getting deeper into lock mechanisms, how they work and in the end, changed the way I look at life and think about everything around. „I don’t care what it was intended for, I care what it can be used for” is literally a life changer. Thank you, LPL.
The hacker mindset struck right home with me. In my youth I liked hacking and cracking programs and then later I became a programmer for a while, mainly for online games. I noticed something quite early on, I was somewhat slower than other programmers in every team I was in. I thought maybe I was bad at it or not smart enough, but no. It wasn't the case. I just made sure in every function and class that i wrote that the variables would never overflow, pointers could never go crazy and error codes would be properly sent back if someone else tried to do shit with my code that it wasn't intended for. I always thought when writing a piece of code, how would I exploit or break this, and then pre fixed it. Not that things didn't go unnoticed now and then, but it made my code less prone to do bad things and my programming slower.
Ibid.
Same here, when writing code I often find myself wondering about the things could go If the code was written in some other way around and what if I just let it be and be done with it.
I wonder if that made your debugging time smaller.
@@youkofoxy Yes and no. Things didn't break often, but when they did and wasn't just me not paying attention, it would confuse the hell out of me. I feel it is better to program with some foresight.
So true. I learned Beginner's All-Purpose Symbolic Instruction Code in the early 80's; Sophmore year in high-school. Routinely, everyone in class, would take a crack at thinking/executing ways to make your "dream code" fall flat on it's ass. It not only taught you good code discipline, but how to think outside of your box and everyone else in class.
If the youtube thing fails, LPL has a solid career as a comedian. He got quite a few laughs out of me.
His April fools videos are comedy gold.
This guy is brilliant. Simply brilliant.
The Lock Picking Comic 😂
Really, he's a surprisingly great presenter
from the video, I think he really IS a lawyer so I don't think he'll mind if his TH-cam thing fails, he can just go back to being a lawyer.
LPL : I'm pretty boring
Also LPL : Gives one of the funniest presentation on locks ever
As a security engineer of digital things, it’s amazing to hear the LPL talk about the mindset of the attacker. I love that he emphasizes the necessity of creativity. I think he inspired me, and hopefully lots of others, into realizing how important our mindsets are when thinking of attack vectors and responses.
this guy revealed itself as a very inteligent, wise and modest person by making video about something most of the viewers were not even remotely interested. inspiring
As I think is the case with many people, I started the video with the intention of maybe watching/listening for a couple minutes at most, and ended up sitting here watching the whole thing (and not doing *anything else* as well) because I found the presentation so interesting. And I'm not even a subscriber to his channel; I've only casually watched a couple dozen of his videos here and there. The presentation was just so interesting, though, that I couldn't help but finish the whole thing. Good job, LPL!
It's his voice it just hypnotists you and your stuck. u physically can't click away it's all in the voice. Lol
I'd say his 2 minute video philosophy is what got me to watch this entire hour. I haven't wasted time on his channel watching filler on other videos, and know he gives the facts straightforward and clear, so an hour of him talking was quite entertaining and knowledgable. Great work LPL!
same here, except I paused a couple of times to get snacks.
Well, then you know what to do next, don't you?
That is exactly what happened to me. I am his subscriber and know well his mostly boring, sometimes entertaining presentation style. I checked this video lasts almost an hour and I don't have time to watch it. Just checking how he sounds in different context outside his channel. And here I am an hour later writing this comment.
LPL is the bee's knees!
That was one great speech. Any lock company who hires LPL as a consultant to improve their security will walk away with the market.
Noone will hire him. Their designers know weaknes of their construction, they simply do not want to change. Only way how to change their mind is not to buy these " locks".
Maybe, maybe not.
Fixing the flaws that he brings up in lock designs increases costs. That is one of the major issues in all of this, and one of the reasons lock makers don't make more secure products.
Additionally, a more secure lock isn't necessarily going to help. A thief who wants into your house is going to bring a hammer, not a lockpick. The door could be unlocked, they will smash a window and climb in around back. They aren't even gonna try the lock.
Finally, if locksmiths make better locks then they have to pick those better locks when idiots inevitably lock themselves out of things. If they can't pick the lock, they can't charge the insane fee to do so and even if they can they have to work far harder than showing up with a comb or a bump key or something.
@@donnhussey568 Agree. anyway there are a couple of more situations. Low level " Locks" are atracting tiefs to enter withou trace. Also for isurance purposes it is better to have broken glass than picked lock. I have good (not best) locks on my properties but it was my decision. A lot of people are buying what technically is not matching producer promises. In our country to advertise product not in accordance with reality is against law. I think only way forward fill suit agains producers for not fair marketing. Unfortunatelly it is too expensive solution for consumers.
The TH-cam Algorithm has seen fit to show this video to the most devout LPL fans, and it has shown it to me. heck yeah.
You are right, fellow sir of gud taste and refinement!
It is not a fluke that we have been selected for this honor by the Great Algorithm.
All hail the Great Algorithm
I've subscribed to the channel 4 years ago and only now I ''found'' it 😢
I like how he talks and laughs like a nerd. It is feels so relatable for me, like not joking at all, I do really like that.
This man is a class act. I only know him from his YT channel and now this presentation but I get the vibe he's a real straight shooter with a good heart and a refreshingly dry and subtle sense of humor. I don't think there's a thing phony about him or what he stands for. With all the shitty people in this world who lie, misdirect, and profit off of false projections, it's good to know people like LPL exist and they are out there making a difference.
LPL needs to develop a rating system to each lock: LPL0 to LPL10. LPL0=even a child can open this. LPL10= yes, LPL can open it but no one else can.
LPL11 = LPL cannot open it... *yet.*
That would be rather crude, almost a binary table if it's only master locks
The rating is the time in minutes it takes him to open it.
He still hasn't opened some of the Bosnian Bill naughty bucket locks. He got most of them but not all.
@@buhammot I don't think only 0s is binary
53 minutes! Man, this Saintcon lock must be the best lock ever made! :o
Great talk. I think this is the first time I have ever heard the LPL sound nervous. I do a lot of public speaking on technical topics, and I recognize the symptoms. Great job, tough talk, well presented.
I almost always used to wear an anorak and a few layers underneath since no mater what anti-perspirant I used, you could see my armpit sweat even on the anorak
@@nooboftheyear7170 use special underwear and use women hygiene pads for your sweat zones. i promise it helps enormously. stick to textil not your skin pls!!
@@giacomocasanova2893 i wouldn't need the underwear but the pads sound interesting. I shall have a hard time explaining to some woman why i need those pads though!
At times like these I start to think that I should have married someone :/
@@nooboftheyear7170 theres special underwear with integrated pads (t shirt + boxers) and you can further improve by using pads. you can sweat about 4 litres (1gallon) before there is anything visible. don‘t think twice about buying them. could be for your gf right?
Usually never comment on your video but as a person which has held literally hundreds of talk from 5 to 30 minuts I must say that you did a really good talk. Perfect blend of comedy and reason, length Perfect, good voice and articulated. Very pleased to say this is one I will come back for. Good job keep it up !
I have been in IT since 1970s and the biggest vulnerability has been the OS vendors, like MS, that put holes in the OS for law enforcement, that other people find and exploit.
To quote CGPGrey:
"There are no doors that angels can open, and demons cannot."
(Assuming of course that the LEOs are actually angels, which is debatable.)
@@Nerobyrne just make it like this: "there is no door that a demon can open, that the devil cannot"
@@Guilherme.DSilva that makes no sense because neither of those should be able to open it
@@Nerobyrne exactly, I don't want Microsoft(demons) to break my privacy, nor hackers(devil) to use that to their advantage
@@Guilherme.DSilva you fundamentally don't understand the metaphor.
It's not about groups but intentions.
A great crossover between physical security and cyber security. The most important takeaway is to think like an attacker, not a designer. This applies in both worlds.
Also that a bunch of "security" is just lies wrapped in metal.
I fully support his anonymity reasons, still my head wants to attach a face to the messenger. well i guess, forever he shall be in my head the talking hands that open locks like almost no full body can
Someone should do some cartoon-style artwork to develop a digital character for him.
@@JohnDlugosz Yoo he could become a vTuber!
I imagine a guy in a suit with his face as the logo he uses
There are photos, and they will be released soon
LPL is like Batman. He needs his anonymity to keep us all safe.
LPL's such a good speaker! He literally broke all the "rules" I've been taught in class
I'm a marketing student at university right now and I just finished a course about presentations a few months ago. It covered slide design and storytelling all the way to how long presentations should last.
It's advised to keep presentations to 20 mins long cuz that's how long how people stick around before they dip, but LPL's so good I didn't even notice that an hour went by!
You can never stop learning from this guy! 11/10
I only watched this vid because i already liked watching LPL's vids. If i did not, i won't touch this vid with a 10-foot pole.
The "keep it under xy min" advice really applies to people who are not very proficient at presenting. Its not because "how long how people stick around before they dip", usually (=almost always) the presenter is at fault. Not many people actually know how to select and distribute the information they want to convey to the audience while keeping it fluent for that much time. Its also much harder to prepare and keep on track. You will get into time issues, you will not be able to correctly remember what comes next or what you wanted to say and etc. Also "keeping it short" forces you to learn what information is really important as you cannot just go into a "shotgun mode" and blast full text slides on people for 10 minutes.
I have attended presentations from very knowledgable and highly regarded people in their field and some were boring the hell out of the audience after 5minutes while the other were more like LPL here and you actually watched the presentation like it was a good movie in a cinema. For example available on the internet look at the introduction of the original iPhone, or the RTX 2thousand card series introduction. Both much longer than an hour, yet still interesting. And you could argue its "easy" because they have a epic thing to talk about for which everyone is excited before it even starts and also they practiced a lot with a team of professionals. But I once attended a keynote speech from a Professor on a topic of Self-sensing electric drives. It was also about an hour long, but it felt like few minutes even when it was a very specific topic only a specific group of engineers know really well.
Its all about experience and depth of knowledge and if you are just starting out, its better to keep it small and focused. And there the "dont exceed xy minutes" is for.
It depends on the topic. Something like this is extremely interesting and enjoyable to listen to. If I had to listen to a 50min presentation from HR about “xyz in the workplace” I’ll want to claw my eyes out.
He also seems to be following rules of presenting to a mass audience. Organic jokes, PowerPoints with very few words and the bulk being his words, live demonstrations, a story; those are all things you’d do to talk about a niche company to a general audience.
Well, he used to speak in courtrooms in front of a judge. Not like this was his first time in front of a critical audience.
I'm not a criminal, but I love watching the LPL for the sake of the 'puzzle-solving' value of how he works around problems. He's right, it is that out-of-the-box kind of hacker mentality and I find it more fascinating than, say, magicians or "illusionists" or even puzzle-solvers. It was a real treat to listen to this extended presentation when I have watched many of his videos and subscribed to his channel for some time and kind of felt in on the joke.
Speaking as a Trainer & Presenter I've got to say his technique is immaculate and always fun.
My personal favourite was Mrs LPL and the ice cream lock, that cracked me up, but I love his historic lock stories.
my grandfather said that everything before the word "but" is not true..therefore you are a criminal!!!!!
"I'm not a criminal"💀
It’s like puzzle solving to me. I enjoy picking all the locks I’ve lost keys for in my 50 year life. So glad I didn’t throw them away
That was a wonderful lecture. I loved the history and stories. This was roughly an hour but honestly I could have sat and listened to LPL for 2-3 hours. Everything he discussed I found absolutely fascinating.
Epic and funny talk, i enjoyed it immensely. This lawyer definitely is not boring at all.
P.S: I watch his videos often, great content. Made me rethink locks I use and even to attempt learning to lockpick for fun.
Same
Cheap hobby! Why not.
How did it go? It’s obviously harder than he makes it look, but how did your attempt go?
@@somenygaard The easy ones are pretty easy. The less easy locks are really hard.
@@somenygaard that is how it goes sometimes
"they're not going to watch a 10 minute video of a lock they never heard of"
Bowley lock videos instantly come to mind. Those were great.
good speech btw
This is by and far the most entertaining talks I've heard yet. I hope LPL decides to do more presentations. Thank you for releasing this.
This dude is the rock star of lock picking, the way the crowd cheered when they found out he was going to demonstrate open the master locks live.
I’m so glad I decided to invest my free time into watching this video. I love getting to see a side of LPL rarely seen outside of videos he’s guest stared in. Don’t get me wrong, we all love the tried and true “here’s a lock, this is where I obtained it, this is the tool I’m using, watch me pick it, now I’ll tell you why it sucks” format but it’s a treat when LPL breaks away from his lock smith persona. Also was caught off guard when we actually got picking content out of this
The last story: "Never interrupt your enemy when he's making a mistake."
53:12 _"If you ever decide to step up your game, I'm just as happy to make videos praising you."_
best way to end a talk, ever.
TLPL is so well articulated. I could listen to him talk about anything for an hour I’m pretty sure.
Hes a lawyer son, he got training in talking all fancy and stuff. No but I love His speaking voice it is awesome makes the videos very entertaining, and educational.
It never occurred to me how much hate and harassment LPL gets. I mean, the dude is actually doing everybody a favor in _every_single_video_, how can anybody not like that. Anyways, all the love to LPL and thanks to SAINTCON for publishing this!
There's people who think he's fake (because they _clearly_ know more about lockpicking than he does) and then there's people like those locksmiths who think consumer ignorance and letting big business do whatever it wants is somehow "moral."
It's things like this being so ubiquitous that strain what faith in humanity I have left.
@@CapnCoconuts I know what you mean. It's even more worrying and annoying that "...throwing away the key after" obviously wouldn't work either. 😑
That's the life of being famous on the internet
The man is such a legend and is doing an immense public service. It's absolutely absurd that all those involved in locks, from the makers to the people who pick them for a living, will, with a straight face, say that ignorance is the best method for safety.
I hope he keeps naming, shaming and humiliating lock makers for as long as he can, or as long as it takes.
I'll admit, I've been watching LPL for a very long time as I appreciate his no-nonsense approach and excellent ability to convey concepts/information through his videos. After watching this one however I have come to the conclusion that he is a very cool guy. @LPL, I appreciate you sharing your knowledge and I actively apply your concepts in service to many nations and many many people. Thank you so much!
I could listen to this man speak for 10 hours at least, both on locks & law. Fantastic keynote, thanks!
Same. This was an absolute masterclass on both hacking mindset and law bending.
After enjoying a few hundred of the LPL’s videos, it was nice to hear him laugh fully, discuss his love of Scotch, and provide context to why he gave up lawyering for something greater.
I dont care about locks and my uppermost pain tollerance ist 15 minutes of youtube video. Just watched 1 hour of video and could watch it all over again... Thank you!
This guy is the definition of an expert in his field
Seeing the title of this I was really concerned LPL was finally showing his face. Thank you for keeping the magic alive and protecting his privacy
saintcon
Wow this was a really great Keynote. Thank you Saintcon for having our beloved LPL and honoring his requests.
I have no words apart from, this is a incredible speech from LPL
The TH-cam strategy was brilliant, it absolutely worked
The "What it can do" concept has some great stories behind it. There's an electric wall heater company in Norway who produces glass panel see through, only the fasteners and control panel showing electric wall panel heaters (or produced haven't seen them in a while). And the way these became a thing was one of the engineers at the company standing in front of a soda cabinet at a store, wondering how the doors don't fog over due to the difference in heat between the inside and the outside. Turns out the way they do it is by using a clear film, between two sheets of glass, the film becomes warm when you put electricity into it, and thus the glass will not fog over because it's slightly warmer than the inside of the cabinet.
With some research the company figured out how to increase the heat out put, and made a product which was popular to install in places where you need heat, but also want to reduce the impact of heating implements on the visuals as much as possible (Such as old buildings etc)
Now _THAT'S_ hacking!
This man is a class act and he is making the world better one embarrassing video after another.
This was a great video with some very good points. I've always appreciated LPL's picks and humour, but here there is so much more: an understanding of the failings of an entire industry and some killer anecdotes. And showing his human side as well with the failed lock picking. This long format really shows the strength of the Lock Picking Lawyer. Thank you!
While I deeply appreciate the short length of lpl's usual videos, I found this great talk very interesting and didn't feel bored for a single minute.
Longtime viewer of LPL and worked in netsec for about 16 years, mostly for corporate lawyers. LPL reminded me that I once told one of the fee earning lawyers that I viewed them as hackers of the law, because they were so adept at finding flaws in law and legal documents, to the benefit of their clients, even to the point where laws were patched because of them. 😉
Although we do not see him, one can tell that his presentation skills are excellent. Very entertaining and well put together.
I was sceptical I would make it to the end of this as I have the attention span of a dead fish. But I listened to every word and enjoyed it immensly. This should be the intro to your channel! amazing lecture / speech.
Great comment!
It was 19 minutes and 44 seconds before the first proclamation, "and we got it open." Masterlock must be so proud.
Only because of TLPL do I realize that these locks and so many more are just horrible. I work at Home Depot, and I have looked over our entire security section. I regularly straight up tell people that our locks are not very good if you know what you are doing, and recommend things we don't carry, since their security is far more important than me trying to make a sale. Also cause of you I've become very interested in locks, so thank you so much for making me and my customers safer!
I finally watched this video after following LPL for at least a year. I’m retired now, and I participated in many corporate communications training classes in which I was introduced to terms like re-windowing, shifting your paradigm (with or without a clutch), and thinking outside the box. Metaphors which became instant cliches. This presentation is so refreshing because it doesn’t use a metaphor to ask a simple question.
I loved this video. He is a wise man with a great sense of humor. I'm a Bridge Engineer Retired. I saw mistakes repeated when new managers took the new engineers down the wrong road.
There's a reason why LPL has such a large following. Not because there are 3,5+ million lock picking nerds out there, but because of his message given at the end ("loose ends").
That mindset is what can "save" "society" (in the loosest possible cliché possible).
As it happens, when he was talking about how to reach people, one of the things he mentioned was the scammer's boot. Being from Chicago, that was the video that caught my attention and I've been watching ever since.
There's definitely a pull that way, of "we see the problem now let's see the solution"
Also, a lot of it is the succinct presentation style and the infectious enthusiasm. I never knew an American Lock 5000 series was a such a neat lock to have.
I figure that nearly any lock can be opened in a minute or less with a cordless angle grinder, even without neighbour fuss by wearing stripes and safety glasses,- which is probably the answer to his question about why we're still using old core designs - it's not the weakest link nor the common mode of attack to use picks in the first place. People will just break them somehow or other.
Still, as a regular consumer only viewing locks as utility items they were designed to be, I didn't know "nice locks" were even an appreciable thing before watching and then owning one.
I actually yelled with excitement when he started lock picking live. I love every second of this video. Thanks Saintcon and LPL.
I was a little disappointed when he didn't immediately say "ok folks" after combing open all those locks
As a software developer, one of the "jokes" I make about bugs is "Working As Implemented" which can also be said about many locks and other security products, both physical and virtual.
After being disappointed not seeing the LPL, merely sat phone down to listen like an audiobook. Quickly I realised how much LPL sounds like Paul Lynde, especially after saying a funny, then immediately chuckling. Used to love watching Paul's funny wit on the Hollywood Squares.
I've put off watching this because of the length, because I wanted to be sure I could do it in one sitting without interruptions!
Very nice hearing LPL elaborating a bit and adding some stories fleshing out points made many times in his short videos.
The point about asking questions about what things can do and not what they're designed to do is a key component in modern innovation. And I anyone find themselves in a development process I highly recommend assigning one or more members of the team to take on the role of the "Fool". Asking all the weird questions and trying to push the team towards assumptions that are wrong and realizing the things they didn't know that they didn't know.
This is why in software development you never have the engineers that write the software do QA. They’d find nothing wrong. You must have a separate QA team that’s not involved in the design and development of the said software.
@@nauy That's exactly how bugs/exploits in games get put into production, too. While people who are involved in development can find nothing wrong, the general public (with the benefit of being a vastly larger audience) who are actually searching for exploits will find them, sometimes on day 1. QA testing teams need to have zero knowledge of that development process, including on how/what bugs might have been fixed between sessions.
@@CalculatedRiskAK I do not think they still hire people outside to do QA anymore. Years ago it was tons of QA tester jobs for people but now its completely gone.
@@Jbig1430 Many rely on automated test suites. And guess who writes those tests?
Ooooo I love the idea of the Fool in a development process tho
Security through obscurity was the motto at Apple for years. Until their laptops took off among college students and it turned out that they can be hacked just as easily when there is a reason for hackers to get the job done.
I remember those days. Apple was bragging that there were practically no viruses for their machines and security breaches were pretty much non-existent, and I had early Apple adopters be rather smug about it when I was talking to them. I pointed out two things: first, Apple (at the time) represented a small percentage of the personal computer market, and second, that this was when the stereotype was established that Apple was used by "creative" types. This might sound cool--if you're a creative type--but it also meant that if you wanted to get into the system that actually did something it would be worth hacking, you didn't bother with Apple because honestly, who cared? A whole lot of people suspected that "hackproof" reputation would end if/when Apple became accepted as a _business_ machine. Which, as more and more of a person's life moved electronic and online, they did even for individuals. And that's exactly what happened.
Same could be said about operating system that have a small marketshare, that said their record with the iphone is still pretty good.
@@dvhh true
@@keith6706 I obtained my first Apple computers, just after OS X 10.0 was released, mainly because they were so hackable. I had been running Linux for a year or so beforehand, which helped tremendously, since both operating systems have fairly similar roots. The command line in MacOS is surprisingly useful for those who can take time to find their way around it.
@@dvhh Not as good as they make it out to be. Company I work for has a lot of company-owned iphones and ipads for its field workers, and apple's iOS software is constantly being patched, un-patched, and re-patched as they fix glaring security holes. They just don't get publicized as much these days.
This was just AWESOME!! Been a long time LPL watcher. First time hearing that laugh!! The long talk with him inserting his humor, gave such a heart warming human element to a man who is literally at machine at picking locks. Well done LPL 👏👏👏
An absolute masterclass on paradigm paralysis and the need to shift the mindset. Well done and thanks for posting this online!
I have enjoyed this video immensely. What a fantastic venue for LPL to be at. They are used to cyber threats being challenged, but probably never thought that their own homes and belongings were SO vulnerable. Thank you, LPL for enlightening us to the history and blind sightedness of such a common industry. Please keep shining the light on the stiff-necked ways of this industry.
@LockPickingLawyer - it was REAL GOOD to be able to hear you for more than 2-3 mins at a time. Nice job!!
This is the longest LPL I have seen. (The lock must be GOD tier used on On the Heaven gates.)
No, it's one of those complication videos where he picks a bunch of locks sequentially.
Well, there was ONE item he couldn't open, but that was just a fluke!
Unlocking mindset is a though nut to crack
@Alexandre Fumo And in front of a crowd !
Thank you for respecting LPL's privacy, I actually have never seen anyone do this and I've watched most DefCons etc. I could listen to LPL all day long.
I agree. I just kept on thinking on how he roasts "security by obscurity" but has to resort to this himself.
Yes, the internet is a weird place. I guess you cannot even post a funny cat video on TH-cam without getting death threats.
Or less-than-subtle advances from some groupies. Which might lead to death threats from your partner ;)
I watched this at least 5 times now..
And if I get to forget it I'll watch it again
How did youtube first recommend this a year after ?? Watched him for years. Good speech