Doesn't Halsey comment about this in one of the Kilo-5 books? When she's trapped in Onyx with Blue team and the Spartan 3s, she goes into idle mad scientist mode and starts speculating on whether the Spartans would have enough genetic diversity to repopulate, if the rest of humanity had been wiped out by the Covenant.
zondcar fan123 Not really you see the SPARTAN I’s had biological augmentations, which means that their offspring were born with some augmentations, which in turn makes them by default better than the II’s, remember at the of the day the II’s aren’t natural. If a 1.1 got the same augmentations the II’s got they would have even better results.
Flatheads Rebuked in some ways the 2.1s still would have the bio and neurological augs. Maybe not the grafted bones but something attuned to stronger than normal bones. Evolution is scary like that
One issue I see with this entire rundown is the assumption that the augmentations are inheritable. The vast majority of S2 augmentations were chemical and surgical. Meaning materials added to the body or chemicals forcing the body's own natural processes to function in different ways. The ONLY inheritable augmentations are those that are genetic in nature, and even there I would argue that they would only pass down if the father is an S2 because, if I am not mistaken, women do not produce more egg cells as they age and genetic modifications propagate through new cells. Then again, this is somewhat weakened if female S2's actually do (and thus are incapable of menopause) or if the gene therapy tech of their time actually does the magic of rewriting already existing cells. Which is clearly magic. If not, then the resulting child of two S2's would be a human. And anything that'd make them better then a baseline (if such a thing can exist as a "baseline human") is simple eugenic breeding of two superior specimens, with some potential benefits from the father. I somehow picture a repopulation effort (considering BILLIONS have died and entire worlds burned) involving the best sources imaginable. Meaning quite a bit of male spartan's out-of-suit time at base might involve rubbing it out into a cup. And if female spartans aren't interested in using their eggs, those being harvested for use in in-vitro fertilization. Mix those two, get a healthy surrogate and boom, you got a "S2.1" without the donor parents ever having to see each other naked. But the flipside of this is that if the genetic alterations to the father side are extensive enough, they might just be incompatible to baseline human. Meaning any kind of fertilization has to be artificial. Finally, I would argue if such augmentations would even be anything you'd WANT passed on. As was said, some augmentations were specifically there to make others possible or stabilize them. The processes involved specifically cause the body to operate in ways not "intended". Our biological functions have very small margins for healthy individuals. If anything works differently, we can get debilitating issues. Like for example, if ANYTHING in the bone or muscle growth augs goes wrong, your muscle growths could go out of control or your bones fuse or never stop growing or even the living statue disorder where your muscles turn to bone. Or they would not develop at all if the modifications swings in the other direction. This is all, of course, based on our CURRENT understanding and technological capability in terms of chemical and genetic engineering. Halo-verse has a 500 year "head start" on us. And the power of Plot Armor and future magic.
@@Installation00 I would be glad to offer my opinion but I will also note that I have no background in any of this, simply stuff I have picked up and parsed over the years from various sources. I love universes built for sci-fi, but I also like to deconstruct them at times for my own amusement. Hit them with reality and see how much they can take before it all unravels.
It depends on the nature of the gene therapy, and at what stage of the subject's development it is carried out. In the case of the Spartan IIs, their genetic augmentations were carried out before they hit puberty and their sexual organs were fully developed, in order that those augmentations would have the maximum effect when their "growth spurt" was undergone. This means that those genetic enhancements would be done, likely with a form of modified or artificial retro-virus, so that it would "infect" all present tissue and modify the genome so that all future cell division would replicate the modified DNA into the daughter cells, including the sexual organs as the Spartans hit puberty. About 8% of human DNA is from retroviruses that have inserted themselves into our ancestors genomes over the millions of years of evolution, so we know that this is definitely possible to do, even if we still need to work out the details.
Could it be possible for children of the Spartan 3's to inherit abilities of a Spartan 3? (Of course if there are any Spartan 3's left besides Noble 3 and some Spartans from Gamma company that are left.)
Halsey in her journal actually took that into account. And some gene therapy for S2 female Spartans actually begin before the overies produce the Egg cell batch. Plus most spartan augmentations genetically are within the .1 percent differential of human DNA variation.
@Patient Devil as admirable as that idea is... Lets take say we take a look at spartan 2's. They have a mixture of genetic and surgical augmentations the surgical such as the re-inforced metallic bones would not be passed on. but on the other hand...some of the genetic may be passed on but even that is NOT gaurenteed. Thats not even accounting for the augmentations possibly increasing pregnency mortality for the mothers and the infants plus there are enough changes to the body structure to consider spartan 2's a branch race of humanity such as the operation know as a C-section may not be viable due to different growth times. While spartan 4's are weaker due to less surgical augmentations, more genetic i.e the weaker stable kind they would be more likley to pass on some of the augs but due to their advanced age and radiation exposure from covanent weaponry i honestly would not put all my eggs in these soldiers to pass on... Instead if i was oni and had to increase humanities long term survivalibility with augs. I would use the vacscene program to give children different augs in many different regions such as eye augs in western Europe, strength in Africa, hearing in Canada. Doing it this way not only would increase the chances of the augs being passed on to the next generation but would not be obvious to the layman that ONI is altering children on earth, thus increasing the pool of augs over the years
There are no records of 3.1s existing, nor do we have any records of any .1s being spartan 4s Edit: So I forgot to mention this, 2.1s do exist, but there are only 2 or 3 we know that exist.
Even more interesting is the possible socio-political effect of having what is essentially a hereditary warrior caste that is smarter, faster and stronger than any regular human could hope to be. The first generation might serve regular humans faithfully but maybe by the third they would want to rule, think like the followers of Charlemagne, and take chunks of the human territory for themselves thinking they deserve it essentially becoming 26th century superhuman barons and kings. You could have like Spartan 2.4s and 2.5s dividing themselves up into their version of noble clans like the House of John-117 and the House of Frederic-104.
I could totally see that happening. But also just imagine if each generation the augmentations become better, stronger. Soon they would be capable of tearing right through a Brute.
They still wouldnt beat baseline humans unless they breed like rabbits trought artificial means. Spartans have 1 major weakness: ship to ship warfare. Id be infinitely more scared of preston cole’s descendents than any child of a spartan and you dont need to get on the ground if you got ships, boarding beeing the only thing spartans are good at and even then you can just shoot them down.
@@ssumbra5648 Not entirely true. The Spartan II's while primarily skilled for CQC, and for boots on the ground missions they were all trained to fly space ships and with the insane amount of knowledge that was crammed into their head by the time they were in there teens I'd honestly say that a Spartan II might be as dangerous flying a ship as on the ground. Also we only get the idea of Spartan's being bad in Ship to Ship combat because of how poorly humanity was doing against the Covenant. Who's ships were probably 300+ years more advanced then the Humans.
@@crazyscotsman9327 Ok you seem to have misunderstood the scale im talking about here, sure what you said is true about a spartan flying a pelican (even though its a massive waste of their skills) but what i was reffering to was capital ships. You cant "fly" a frigate, you need a bridge crew and officers. Having all of these guys being spartans is ridiculous as its extremely expensive, but they also dont have any advantages. I dont remember saying that spartans were "bad", theyre skills are just not superhuman when they are asked to perform a function on a ship's bridge. It really dosnt give them any adventages to have lighting reflexes when ships are kilometers from each others, you also have to keep in mind that these ships arent able to turn very quickly like a fighter or a drop-ship. Preston cole, lord hood or captain keyes could easily wipe the floor against even a full bridge crew of spartans, they simply aren't much better than normal humans when it comes to capital ship warfare. The best comparison i could give you would be fet clones from star wars: on the ground they wipe the floor with anything else, but in space there advantages are very few for their cost. A spartan on a ship is also much more vulnerable than one on the ground, if a plasma torpedo hits the bridge and you have a spartan there, it dosnt matter if hes wearing the best armor mankind has ever made: if the ship armor dosnt stop it, hes going down with it. Im not saying spartans are bad in ship to ship warfare, just that they are white elephants and can be matched or even surpassed by normal humans there (why do you think humanity was doing so bad in space? spartans mostly couldnt make a difference there, but on the ground they could and did).
Could ONI raise the children in an artificial environment inside The Domain because time flows faster there than in real time? They could teach and raise them how they want, and immediately deploy groups of "successful" 2.1s into the field as their new Head Hunters
@@TimeCircleBlue Very close to Clone Army, but with a more Dr.Halsey like approach. The candidates that succeed have a exceedingly high loyalty to ONI and an even further connection to eachother and the employees that taught and lived with them. Every other candidate that fails could be disposed of without public or UNSC finding out simply because the alleged ONI facility "doesn't exist"
When hasley was looking for the children for Spartans 2, she stated that they were already better than average children in they were faster, stronger etc. that could suggest that they were already children of Spartans as their parents or one of them already part of Orion 1
From what i knoe the most likely is that the ONI would artifically breed the remaining S-II to form an army of 2.1. that is if the breeding is possible considering the S-II augmentations may not all be transferable/compaptibles, but if they are, the ONI would re-augment the 2.1s ASAP and try to make S-V (using the smae process that the one used for S-II) tomake them loyal and endoctrinated.
I can see it now! John117: holt! don't move. The kid:... Father? John 117: ... Father? I don't have any kids? I can't have any kids?... Confused screaming. John wakes up. John 117: huh! What a nightmare! Kaily: I'm pregnant! John 117: 😦😧😨
im fine with it if they have superbeings for kids...so long as john's kid gets a higher rank. seriously how is 117.1 supposed to save the universe while holding the mantle on his/her shoulders if the best you can get is master chief petty officer...thats just sad
Master Chief Petty officer is the highest rank considered expendable in the u.s navy. Considering John's purpose is essentially the "fight until you die" kind, giving him a higher rank would negate his usefulness as a combat rank. He doesn't even get his medal in halo 2 since the covenant attack before it happens...
I cannot stop listening to this I enjoy it it's good Also Randall was retired somehow and had a daughter so it did already happen Though it was with a spartan and a normal unaugmented human
@@damankymuse650 2545 Randall and his wife had their daughter named Natalie In 2546 that's when Randall was located to get the augs removed. So he had a child before any augmentations were removed, really before anyone was able to even find him
@@damankymuse650 The line from Nightfall, while interesting, is likely less impressive than you think. The Genetic Augmentations could not be reversed, as even Attempting to do so would (most likely) be Lethal. Halsey specifically stated this as one of her greatest concerns in her journal. Spartan-IIs have superior Healing Capabilities to "Norms," and have improved musculatures even With most of the Muscular Augmentations removed (they could only do so much with that). They also have Mental Augmentations (doubt this was removed) through Neural Enhancement (silver placed on/around Neurons), and apparently this became at least somewhat normal (most likely added to DNA as an Adaptation). Most of the augments removed were the Chemical Augmentations, as the Bone Augmentations are probably Not removable. The Neural Implant was probably Shrunk, as Total Removal is almost certainly lethal (it is attached to his Brain, with the nearby Neurons having grown firmly into the connections with it.
So at least 2 of these “2.1’s” exist(ed) at some point. -Daughter of Randal-037 (RIP) -the at least 1 kid that Maria-062 has You brought up ONI using artificial means to create 2.1s and I didn’t even consider that and I hate that it’s possible.
Only Master Chief could stop a 2.1, and that because of his Geas. ONI has not gotten any new samples from him since before Halo 4, as they have been too busy trying to Kill him.
You all are looking at Chief and Kelly, imagine what if Noble Six was female and it was her DNA that was coupled with Chief's. That combination alone should terrify even the Flood.
I thought for spartans having children is yes it can be done thou most likely with help for those augmentations but why would ONI stop there considering the many that have died during the halo wars it would be likely that ONI would have halsey or people like her clone both spartans & as many of normal humans as possible with altering their genetics to be more like the ancient humans & other augmentations already built in
I want to know what sets the spartan 3s apart from the others I know the Spartan 4 are just the one that are there and are nothing compared to Johnson or chief and blue team but what about the 3s
@@ssumbra5648 spartan 3s augmentation are just as strong as spartan 4s ( unless we're talking about Gama company but they just built different from other spartan 3 literally ) 4s are just less experienced compared to the 3s that survived that the majority died in there first missions the ones that survive are technically the best of their company or just lucky and they were trained from a young age and with that there discipline compared 4s that because they join as consistent adults at the bare minimum of 18 it ain't as easy to beat that level of discipline and professionalism into them as it was for previous generations
So I was born augmented then😂 not trying to be that one kid who thinks he’s the best but, I was just a natural strong fast and idk about smart tho😂 but anyways when I was young about 1 and a half I climbed up cabinets like it was nothing and stood on the sides of railings and jumping off of them😂
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Doesn't Halsey comment about this in one of the Kilo-5 books? When she's trapped in Onyx with Blue team and the Spartan 3s, she goes into idle mad scientist mode and starts speculating on whether the Spartans would have enough genetic diversity to repopulate, if the rest of humanity had been wiped out by the Covenant.
That conversation tangent threw me for a loop the size of a Sacred Ring.
Damn.
ONI having Spartan 2.1 in Gen 3 armor.
Well, the Galaxy is screwed.
Only issue is that the SPARTAN II’s didn’t have the same type of augmentations as the I’s
@@justchilling704 but they had better augmentations than 1s so. They would be better tahn 1.1s
zondcar fan123 Not really you see the SPARTAN I’s had biological augmentations, which means that their offspring were born with some augmentations, which in turn makes them by default better than the II’s, remember at the of the day the II’s aren’t natural. If a 1.1 got the same augmentations the II’s got they would have even better results.
Flatheads Rebuked in some ways the 2.1s still would have the bio and neurological augs. Maybe not the grafted bones but something attuned to stronger than normal bones. Evolution is scary like that
Cable Aragon Lol having metal plates attached to your ones will definitely not be inherited by your children, but any biological ones may be.
I laughed when he said “If the situation was dire enough” when he was talking about ONI. They would do that for shits and giggles if they wanted to.
One issue I see with this entire rundown is the assumption that the augmentations are inheritable. The vast majority of S2 augmentations were chemical and surgical. Meaning materials added to the body or chemicals forcing the body's own natural processes to function in different ways. The ONLY inheritable augmentations are those that are genetic in nature, and even there I would argue that they would only pass down if the father is an S2 because, if I am not mistaken, women do not produce more egg cells as they age and genetic modifications propagate through new cells. Then again, this is somewhat weakened if female S2's actually do (and thus are incapable of menopause) or if the gene therapy tech of their time actually does the magic of rewriting already existing cells. Which is clearly magic.
If not, then the resulting child of two S2's would be a human. And anything that'd make them better then a baseline (if such a thing can exist as a "baseline human") is simple eugenic breeding of two superior specimens, with some potential benefits from the father. I somehow picture a repopulation effort (considering BILLIONS have died and entire worlds burned) involving the best sources imaginable. Meaning quite a bit of male spartan's out-of-suit time at base might involve rubbing it out into a cup. And if female spartans aren't interested in using their eggs, those being harvested for use in in-vitro fertilization. Mix those two, get a healthy surrogate and boom, you got a "S2.1" without the donor parents ever having to see each other naked.
But the flipside of this is that if the genetic alterations to the father side are extensive enough, they might just be incompatible to baseline human. Meaning any kind of fertilization has to be artificial.
Finally, I would argue if such augmentations would even be anything you'd WANT passed on. As was said, some augmentations were specifically there to make others possible or stabilize them. The processes involved specifically cause the body to operate in ways not "intended". Our biological functions have very small margins for healthy individuals. If anything works differently, we can get debilitating issues. Like for example, if ANYTHING in the bone or muscle growth augs goes wrong, your muscle growths could go out of control or your bones fuse or never stop growing or even the living statue disorder where your muscles turn to bone. Or they would not develop at all if the modifications swings in the other direction.
This is all, of course, based on our CURRENT understanding and technological capability in terms of chemical and genetic engineering. Halo-verse has a 500 year "head start" on us. And the power of Plot Armor and future magic.
Remind me to get your take on the next batch of aug videos. I know my s**t, but that was a very well thought out and considered response.
@@Installation00 I would be glad to offer my opinion but I will also note that I have no background in any of this, simply stuff I have picked up and parsed over the years from various sources.
I love universes built for sci-fi, but I also like to deconstruct them at times for my own amusement. Hit them with reality and see how much they can take before it all unravels.
It depends on the nature of the gene therapy, and at what stage of the subject's development it is carried out. In the case of the Spartan IIs, their genetic augmentations were carried out before they hit puberty and their sexual organs were fully developed, in order that those augmentations would have the maximum effect when their "growth spurt" was undergone. This means that those genetic enhancements would be done, likely with a form of modified or artificial retro-virus, so that it would "infect" all present tissue and modify the genome so that all future cell division would replicate the modified DNA into the daughter cells, including the sexual organs as the Spartans hit puberty. About 8% of human DNA is from retroviruses that have inserted themselves into our ancestors genomes over the millions of years of evolution, so we know that this is definitely possible to do, even if we still need to work out the details.
Could it be possible for children of the Spartan 3's to inherit abilities of a Spartan 3? (Of course if there are any Spartan 3's left besides Noble 3 and some Spartans from Gamma company that are left.)
Halsey in her journal actually took that into account. And some gene therapy for S2 female Spartans actually begin before the overies produce the Egg cell batch. Plus most spartan augmentations genetically are within the .1 percent differential of human DNA variation.
So maybe we could have a Master Chief Jr. that is even stronger than Master Chief Sr.
@@cancelanime1507 Linda. Kelly was a sister to chief
@Patient Devil as admirable as that idea is... Lets take say we take a look at spartan 2's. They have a mixture of genetic and surgical augmentations the surgical such as the re-inforced metallic bones would not be passed on. but on the other hand...some of the genetic may be passed on but even that is NOT gaurenteed. Thats not even accounting for the augmentations possibly increasing pregnency mortality for the mothers and the infants plus there are enough changes to the body structure to consider spartan 2's a branch race of humanity such as the operation know as a C-section may not be viable due to different growth times.
While spartan 4's are weaker due to less surgical augmentations, more genetic i.e the weaker stable kind they would be more likley to pass on some of the augs but due to their advanced age and radiation exposure from covanent weaponry i honestly would not put all my eggs in these soldiers to pass on...
Instead if i was oni and had to increase humanities long term survivalibility with augs. I would use the vacscene program to give children different augs in many different regions such as eye augs in western Europe, strength in Africa, hearing in Canada. Doing it this way not only would increase the chances of the augs being passed on to the next generation but would not be obvious to the layman that ONI is altering children on earth, thus increasing the pool of augs over the years
@@abellator7560 ok
Probably not. SII Augmentations were mostly surgical not genetic. Go with a I or III for best results with the .1 versions.
@@cancelanime1507 Cortana 🤡
"Spartan 2.1"
*Yikes Intensifies*
I wonder how many 1.1, 2.1, 3.1 children ended up becoming Spartan 4s...
There are no records of 3.1s existing, nor do we have any records of any .1s being spartan 4s
Edit: So I forgot to mention this, 2.1s do exist, but there are only 2 or 3 we know that exist.
They probably have some other augmentations like the neural interface.
Well we would have had Rookie from Halo ODST if they didn't kill him off in a book in mention.
Even more interesting is the possible socio-political effect of having what is essentially a hereditary warrior caste that is smarter, faster and stronger than any regular human could hope to be. The first generation might serve regular humans faithfully but maybe by the third they would want to rule, think like the followers of Charlemagne, and take chunks of the human territory for themselves thinking they deserve it essentially becoming 26th century superhuman barons and kings. You could have like Spartan 2.4s and 2.5s dividing themselves up into their version of noble clans like the House of John-117 and the House of Frederic-104.
I could totally see that happening. But also just imagine if each generation the augmentations become better, stronger. Soon they would be capable of tearing right through a Brute.
They still wouldnt beat baseline humans unless they breed like rabbits trought artificial means. Spartans have 1 major weakness: ship to ship warfare. Id be infinitely more scared of preston cole’s descendents than any child of a spartan and you dont need to get on the ground if you got ships, boarding beeing the only thing spartans are good at and even then you can just shoot them down.
@@ssumbra5648 Not entirely true. The Spartan II's while primarily skilled for CQC, and for boots on the ground missions they were all trained to fly space ships and with the insane amount of knowledge that was crammed into their head by the time they were in there teens I'd honestly say that a Spartan II might be as dangerous flying a ship as on the ground. Also we only get the idea of Spartan's being bad in Ship to Ship combat because of how poorly humanity was doing against the Covenant. Who's ships were probably 300+ years more advanced then the Humans.
@@crazyscotsman9327 Ok you seem to have misunderstood the scale im talking about here, sure what you said is true about a spartan flying a pelican (even though its a massive waste of their skills) but what i was reffering to was capital ships. You cant "fly" a frigate, you need a bridge crew and officers. Having all of these guys being spartans is ridiculous as its extremely expensive, but they also dont have any advantages. I dont remember saying that spartans were "bad", theyre skills are just not superhuman when they are asked to perform a function on a ship's bridge. It really dosnt give them any adventages to have lighting reflexes when ships are kilometers from each others, you also have to keep in mind that these ships arent able to turn very quickly like a fighter or a drop-ship. Preston cole, lord hood or captain keyes could easily wipe the floor against even a full bridge crew of spartans, they simply aren't much better than normal humans when it comes to capital ship warfare. The best comparison i could give you would be fet clones from star wars: on the ground they wipe the floor with anything else, but in space there advantages are very few for their cost. A spartan on a ship is also much more vulnerable than one on the ground, if a plasma torpedo hits the bridge and you have a spartan there, it dosnt matter if hes wearing the best armor mankind has ever made: if the ship armor dosnt stop it, hes going down with it. Im not saying spartans are bad in ship to ship warfare, just that they are white elephants and can be matched or even surpassed by normal humans there (why do you think humanity was doing so bad in space? spartans mostly couldnt make a difference there, but on the ground they could and did).
Could ONI raise the children in an artificial environment inside The Domain because time flows faster there than in real time? They could teach and raise them how they want, and immediately deploy groups of "successful" 2.1s into the field as their new Head Hunters
This gives me clone army vibes
@@TimeCircleBlue Very close to Clone Army, but with a more Dr.Halsey like approach.
The candidates that succeed have a exceedingly high loyalty to ONI and an even further connection to eachother and the employees that taught and lived with them.
Every other candidate that fails could be disposed of without public or UNSC finding out simply because the alleged ONI facility "doesn't exist"
@@NobleHusky but do they have override orders???
If Linda has a child then there would be two best Spartans
When hasley was looking for the children for Spartans 2, she stated that they were already better than average children in they were faster, stronger etc. that could suggest that they were already children of Spartans as their parents or one of them already part of Orion 1
From what i knoe the most likely is that the ONI would artifically breed the remaining S-II to form an army of 2.1. that is if the breeding is possible considering the S-II augmentations may not all be transferable/compaptibles, but if they are, the ONI would re-augment the 2.1s ASAP and try to make S-V (using the smae process that the one used for S-II) tomake them loyal and endoctrinated.
2:23 to Lovelace's' quote from Happy Feet "Go forth and multiply"
I can see it now!
John117: holt! don't move.
The kid:... Father?
John 117: ... Father? I don't have any kids? I can't have any kids?... Confused screaming.
John wakes up.
John 117: huh! What a nightmare!
Kaily: I'm pregnant!
John 117: 😦😧😨
What did I just witness
I’m reporting you to ONI have fun at the midnight facility
im fine with it if they have superbeings for kids...so long as john's kid gets a higher rank.
seriously how is 117.1 supposed to save the universe while holding the mantle on his/her shoulders if the
best you can get is master chief petty officer...thats just sad
Master Chief Petty officer is the highest rank considered expendable in the u.s navy. Considering John's purpose is essentially the "fight until you die" kind, giving him a higher rank would negate his usefulness as a combat rank. He doesn't even get his medal in halo 2 since the covenant attack before it happens...
I cannot stop listening to this
I enjoy it it's good
Also Randall was retired somehow and had a daughter so it did already happen
Though it was with a spartan and a normal unaugmented human
He had operations to remove some of his augmentations and gave him back his sex drive
@@damankymuse650
2545 Randall and his wife had their daughter named Natalie
In 2546 that's when Randall was located to get the augs removed.
So he had a child before any augmentations were removed, really before anyone was able to even find him
And what if they object to the order of things? To ONI? To the UNSC? To be only military pawns?
Hey, your videos are awesome, keep up the amazing work!
What of the daughter of the Spartan-II from Nightfall?
Randall had operations that removed most of the augmentations and gave him back his sex drive
@@damankymuse650 The line from Nightfall, while interesting, is likely less impressive than you think. The Genetic Augmentations could not be reversed, as even Attempting to do so would (most likely) be Lethal. Halsey specifically stated this as one of her greatest concerns in her journal. Spartan-IIs have superior Healing Capabilities to "Norms," and have improved musculatures even With most of the Muscular Augmentations removed (they could only do so much with that). They also have Mental Augmentations (doubt this was removed) through Neural Enhancement (silver placed on/around Neurons), and apparently this became at least somewhat normal (most likely added to DNA as an Adaptation). Most of the augments removed were the Chemical Augmentations, as the Bone Augmentations are probably Not removable. The Neural Implant was probably Shrunk, as Total Removal is almost certainly lethal (it is attached to his Brain, with the nearby Neurons having grown firmly into the connections with it.
I wouldn't mind playing as John Jr in a spin off halo game
I would want to see this in lore
So at least 2 of these “2.1’s” exist(ed) at some point.
-Daughter of Randal-037 (RIP)
-the at least 1 kid that Maria-062 has
You brought up ONI using artificial means to create 2.1s and I didn’t even consider that and I hate that it’s possible.
Only Master Chief could stop a 2.1, and that because of his Geas. ONI has not gotten any new samples from him since before Halo 4, as they have been too busy trying to Kill him.
You all are looking at Chief and Kelly, imagine what if Noble Six was female and it was her DNA that was coupled with Chief's. That combination alone should terrify even the Flood.
I thought for spartans having children is yes it can be done thou most likely with help for those augmentations but why would ONI stop there considering the many that have died during the halo wars it would be likely that ONI would have halsey or people like her clone both spartans & as many of normal humans as possible with altering their genetics to be more like the ancient humans & other augmentations already built in
Sooo 1.1’s are basically Captain America?
Maybe a slight bit below.
Still unconfirmed.
If the Spartans 2s had kids they would be called spartan 5s
Can you please make a video of how you think they will wrap up the created storyline from halo 5 for infinite? They could just retcon it I guess?
Tbh if ONI didn’t commit some of these human rights violations then humanity would have a much harder time
Um... not that kind of gene therapy.
Not all gene tharapy means passing on genes.
i doubt
Damn
I want to know what sets the spartan 3s apart from the others I know the Spartan 4 are just the one that are there and are nothing compared to Johnson or chief and blue team but what about the 3s
Read "Ghost of Onyx" Spartan-III's as far as I know Spartan-III's are cheaper spartan-II's but take into account new innovations as well.
They're expendable soldiers to hold off the covenant
There in between IIs and IVs, less powerfull than IIs but more than IVs.
@@ssumbra5648 spartan 3s augmentation are just as strong as spartan 4s ( unless we're talking about Gama company but they just built different from other spartan 3 literally ) 4s are just less experienced compared to the 3s that survived that the majority died in there first missions the ones that survive are technically the best of their company or just lucky and they were trained from a young age and with that there discipline compared 4s that because they join as consistent adults at the bare minimum of 18 it ain't as easy to beat that level of discipline and professionalism into them as it was for previous generations
@@kennyburkamp4054 Sorry chief, but instalation's videos explicitely state they are stronger from their augments, he even puts numbers on it.
Awesome video
Fear the Superman!
Getting my hero academia vibes for some reason
Gimme.
Semper invicta
Erm.....meh. dunno about this one.
Well, Randall's daughter wasn't very impressive.
He somehow had most of his augmentations undone for... Some reason. Don't remember how. Nightfall didn't really explain it well.
He had them painfully undone if I recall correctly.
A Spartan 2 probably could not give children 2 a normal human woman because she would most likely drowned LOL
So I was born augmented then😂 not trying to be that one kid who thinks he’s the best but, I was just a natural strong fast and idk about smart tho😂 but anyways when I was young about 1 and a half I climbed up cabinets like it was nothing and stood on the sides of railings and jumping off of them😂
The Halo 5 is just getting bull####