IMPORTANT INFO PLEASE READ IT ALL: US 91 octane rating is equivalent to Aussie 95 octaine. My bike has the following mods: - Full Moto-X Exhaust - 550 performance ECU (First installed and tested in this video) - 38 tooth rear sprocket - Michelin Starcross 5 tyres with a 120/90 size on the rear. - Full suspension re-spring and re-valve - Protaper handlebars - Barkbuster handguards If you have any questions or want to see something in a future video please comment below. Thanks for watching, Sean
Thanks for that mate, I reckon a great video would be going through all the mods, their costs, their importance and your thoughts about them would be great, especially from an Australian perspective.
@@ShonkyProductions Awesome can't wait to see it! And a review of the MOTOX exhaust would also be cool as they are WAAAAYYY cheaper than the FMFs and Yoshi's of the world.
Hi, great vids and great info! Are you still able to ride with the baffle in the Moto X silencer with the ECU stage 1? I mean can you still feel the extra power or that will completely nullify the ECU and the exhaust full system upgrade? Thanks
Great stuff. I have the 550 Stock Improved 87 Octane and am happy with the difference. I also modded the air Box and slightly modded the stock exhaust. The stock improved ECU easily compensates for those changes. As you say, the bike 'pulls' now. That and the suspension upgrade to front and rear is a game changer on this bike.
@@salazam I have the K-Tech shock and the Race-Tech Fork Spring Kit. The Shock is awesome, but in hindsight I feel the fork spring kit has some design issues that prevent the full travel from being available when pushed to the limit. I think the front stock suspension is not nearly as bad as the stock shock, which is really bad. I could have left the front alone and be perfectly fine with just the K-Tech shock, IMO ;-)
@@Scoottoots Thanks! That's what I was thinking. I don't _really_ have a problem with the front, but the rear is gumdrops. That said I only have about 30 mins on the bike, but I did take it on some gnar trails.
Superb video ! I just picked up my CRF 300 rally yesterday., Rode 35 miles. Today I rode 115 miles. Love the bike ! I will do the ECU and a seat concepts seat. All sorts of other stuff too, of course, down the road ! My bike does have a annoying 4-5 k Buzzy rattle everyone talks about. A louder muffler will solve that !
Hi Kent, Congratulations on getting the new bike. It's funny, I thought my bike didn't have the 4K rattle but then one day when I was just cruising to the shops, I could hear it. I have only heard it a couple of times now, a muffler will defiantly fix that!
good to know it works for you as advertised…my 550ecu is stuck in the USPS blackhole and hasn’t moved in a week (Chicago), so shipping wise i’d recommend asking Maverick/550 to investigate Fedex/DHL for OS buyers (ps UPS is terrible too) as you’ve found out….this is a great motor once it’s allowed to breath in/out/fuel/timed…and as i’ve found will easily pull taller 15t front sprocket with just intake/exhaust mods…so looking forward to the 550ecu now 🇦🇺
I hope yours comes soon. I had a 6-8 week wait. I actually lost track of when I ordered it. I was really wanting it for my 2 day adventure ride, but of course it turned up the day I got back It's worth the wait 👍
What sort of exhaust did you fit. I;ve ordered a 300L, about to order the 550 ECU and looking at Moto x exhaust, At $360 Delivered to Australia so much cheaper but not sure if there is any performance uplift apart from weight
@@andrewo5138 i have the MotoX with version 1 muffler and no spark arrestor or baffle…it is dirtbike loud so beware (i have always worn earplugs anyway)…and with the wire screen removed from the airfilter, I noticed the bike able to pull a little better from low to midrange…. Just like all the other bikes i’ve had over the decades (think Honda XRs)…they responded to breathing in/out mods… The stock muffler has at least one catalytic converter which looks like a honeycomb maze when viewed from the inlet end…no wonder the bike can’t breathe…along with the header pipe which is 10mm smaller than the MotoX header… The motor is choked from factory and feels like a scooter…but just the same all these changes don’t make it a crf450…just a healthy modern 300 👍
Great videos Sean I have done the same as you buying the rally coming from a bigger bike. I ordered mine last March and picked it up in October fantastic little bike and have spent quite a bit on suspension and other goodie’s. I put the yoshimura full system on mine with the EJK and it lost to much torque so went back to stock but just ordered the 550 because of your video and will see how it goes .I live on the central coast and do all the same tracks as you the rally seems to get a bit of attention when I stop at Jerry’s pretty sure we will see lots more on the trails when people can get their hands on them Good to see you out there enjoying your rally Keep up the good work looking forward to more videos.
Hi Kevin, great to hear that you are enjoying the 300 Rally as well. The 550performance ECU has a lot of advantages over the EJC so I think you will find it suits the 300 Rally better. I'm also on the Central Coast and it would be great to catch up sometime for a ride and compare bikes and setups. If you are interested, please contact me via my email: sst.adventure@gmail.com I'll be making lots more videos and look forward to hopefully meeting you. Sean
Definitely you have advantage from ECU Company. I had two Balkan tours and I usually rode 110-120kmh without any problem . I have 95kg plus 10kg luggage. I have stock 300L. Your video it's a promo. I complete my observation to mention that I have European version with 27Hp only.
hmmm i have a stock crf300l rally 2024 with stock tooth setup and no problems at all with 6th gear from 70km/h im cruising 110-115 between 6k -7k rpm and when overtakeing i just twist throttle to fulll and it pulls to 135 km/h no problems. Also im 1.92m in height and 112kg in weight.
@@Andriesdemotorrijder the stock Speedo is a little optimistic to say the least. I have changed the bikes gearing with different sprocket and tyre sizes to make the speedo accurate (confirmed by GPS). You may be surprised, and a little disappointed by your actual speeds.
Good to hear. I went for the 38t rear sprocket and ECU after reading good reviews on ADVrider. I'm happy to report, they were right... it works great with the taller gearing.
@@240LTS I like the mods. The full racetech suspension made the most drastic change. I road in the Rockies with and without and can't believe how much better the bike performed.
@@marcusleestudios7612 ... I have the Level 1 Rally Raid front and back. Considering the 550 and a full exhaust system. What one? I do not know with reading so many mixed reviews. Want to do this only once. $$$$$$$
You are right on the ball mate with this video. On your recommend I have installed the 550 on my 300l. I have kept the OEM exhaust thou. I am going to try a 38t rear sometime. Thks again ,great video.
Hi, thanks for your comments. I have the full Moto-X exhaust and run it without the baffle. It is louder than stock, but not offensive. I understand about wanting to keep it quiet and I may do some testing with the baffle in on another video to document what effect it has on performance.
That looks like a great upgrade - but what does it do to the fuel economy? I love that the CRF is so miserly with petrol, it's one of the (many) positives about this bike.
Hi Peter, as I also have changed the gearing from 14/40 to 14/38 I find the fuel economy about the same. the 38 rear sprocket and this ECU lets you use 6th gear more so you can keep the revs down. I will be installing some CBR300 cams and trying the Stage 2 tune next for a little extra top end power.
Hey I love what you are doing with your rally! Could you maybe do a quick vid of everything you have done to the bike?? Haha I would like to do the same with mine. But in the states the Yoshimura Pipes are not available and was curious about the motox pipes.(Im not sure if that is what is on your bike, I just saw the pic in this vid) thanks!
Hi Jeff, thanks for watching... that's a great idea for a video and I will definitely do it when I'm back home in about a week. I'm running the full Moto-X exhaust and it's a great system for the money. I'm thinking about doing a review of a few different exhaust systems with a bit of back-to-back testing in a future video. If I make it to 1000 subscribers I will spend the money to buy a few different exhaust systems for a full review/test.
Yes, the american 91 is equivalent to 95 in many other contries in the world. The american octane is PON(pump octane number) witch is the avg of RON(reserch octane number) & MON(motor octane number)
Great to know that! I actually ride with 98 octane only, if I upgrade de ECU to the 550, should I start filling up with 95 or keep 98? Thanks for the video and Information . Really helpful! 🙌🙌🙌🙌
So Idk if I can just not do math or what, but from what I can see the stock top speed of the 300 Rally is 83 MPH(133 KPH). It seems like you are getting like 120 max, am I wrong? Just curious if you had any speed improvement from stock. I am buying this bike and want to know how to get a few more MPH/KPH out of it. Thank you in advance for any help you can provide.
Thanks for your comment. I can get more out of it, just in that video 120 was all I did. Our speed limit is 110kph. I can sit on 128kph/80mph at around 8000rpm. I have added an extra baffle to my bike as I like a quiet exhaust. Without baffles, it has a little bit more top speed. If you are wanting more than 80mph out of this bike, it's probably the wrong bike for you. It's only 286cc, so you must keep that in mind. The 550 Performance ECU richens the stock lean fueling and adds torque more than outright power.
Great 😊 report Sean we seem to have the same experience with the 550. The taller rear tyre and the 38 rear seem to have dropped your highway revs quite a bit My economy at 110 on the gps is about the same 3.8 with standard gearing but if I back off it can still give 3.1 though that is with 95 fuel standard exhaust and standard tyres. You seemed to have no problems with the steep hills on the gnarly ride you showed us and that was before the 550.Any regrets on the 38 rear in the tight steep trails?? Cheers Tony
I would love to hear how it goes low down on tight stuff too. Has it lost any tractability in hill starts and idling along speeds? Looks like it would by the graph………
Hi Tony, thanks for watching and your kind comments. I'm going to do another video and test the exhaust with the baffle in and a few other mods. I will document fuel economy at different speeds when I do. I have zero regrets with the 38t rear, even in the steep trails. I can still start off in 2nd gear on the flat and probably on slight inclines. To also answer Shaun Johnston's question, it went fine in the tight stuff and has lost no traceability in the hills and tight going. I haven't tested idle speeds yet but you just gave me an idea for another video just on the changes the 38t rear made and what it can still do. Please keep in mind that I am an experienced enduro rider and still race the occasional Extreme Enduro event so I know how to use the clutch and find traction in steep and slippery conditions. A novice might be better suited to the 40t rear sprocket... but only in tight, steep going which hopefully they shouldn't be taking the rally into! Hope that answers your questions and please keep them coming. I'm happy to answer them and get some ideas for more videos. Sean
@@ShonkyProductions 😂 yes Sean we can easily tell you are very experienced simply by the way you keep up with Nugget and company. Great stuff mate can’t waited. Thanks again Cheers Tony
I tuned the ECU on my Rally and did some 2nd gear rolling starts pulls against my son on the 300L. Rider weight difference evened out the bikes and I pulled consistently on the untuned 300. Not a huge difference but there nonetheless. I now have the ECU tuned on the 300L also but haven’t had time to try it out.
Spent a few hours in the woods on my standard 300 with the 550 tune and the difference is more even more pronounced than I feel on the 300 Rally. Planning to do the 38 tooth on the Rally and a 42 on the standard in keeping with each bikes primary role
Have you checked the mpgs after the mod? Is there much of a drop if any on mileage. I have the GPR slipon on my 2017 rally. Have you removed any of the emissions. I'm in California. Any other mods ? let me know, Thanks, Jeff
Hi Jeff, thanks for your comments. With my 14/38 gearing, Full Moto-X exhaust and the Stage 1 ECU I'm getting about 3.8L/100km. Look out for a full review on mileage with 14/38 and 14/40 gearing. I'll also be doing a review of all my mods and a SUBSCRIBER GIVAWAY ( New Yamoto Bash plate) Stay tuned.
@@ShonkyProductions Interesting regarding the fuel economy. With my stock 300L I get about 3.1L/100km (not going easy on the throttle in mountainous terrain) so It seems the new ECU causes you to use quite a bit more gas. I notice in your mods list you haven't installed an aftermarket air filter to compliment your exhaust. That may help a bit. The stage one ECU is designed for modded intake and exhaust, so you may be running a tad rich at the moment especially in open loop mode. Just some thoughts :-)
@@Scoottoots Good thinking, I took the backfire screen off my air filter but I will be getting a foam filter soon. My economy without the ECU was still around 3.6L/100km so it's not too far off. The Rally with the screen extender is pushing a bigger size through the air over your 300L also. Maybe that pushes the fuel economy up a bit too.
@@ShonkyProductions That's a good point regarding the windscreen and air resistance affecting economy. Removing the backfire screen on the filter does make a noticeable difference. The air flows pretty good with that removed. A small risk I guess, but...? I haven't decided if I will do any performance mods. I did a fair bit on my former CRF250L but got tired of the loud Yoshi system. What foam filter are you contemplating purchasing? I'm not aware of one available. I imagine K & N will get a filter going for the 300's. I used a K & N for the 250L and it was good. I tried some Uni Filter (Australian branch) foam filters on the 250L but was dissatisfied. They allowed air to bypass the outer filter layer at the edges where it overlapped the inner filter. The K & N was tight and I never found any dust in the intake tube to throttle body. DNA make a filter for the 300's but it's way more expensive than the K & N will likely be. Anyway, cheers. I enjoyed your video and will be checking in for more down the line:-)
Thanks, and I will do (Once I figure out how to pin a comment). It's stayed about the same at 3.8l/100km. With the taller gearing and 38t rear sprocket I'm using 6th sooner and more ofter which keeps the revs down.
Shooting from the hip. Your channel is made for me as I like challenges my AT is not capable off. So... I've ordered a 300 Rally and the research begins. Where better to start than Shonky Productions. Subscribed👍. I've been researching the luggage side of things and like your ideas with your multi day set up. The type of riding I 've seen you do with a full camping load raises my top question. If you don't find the rear suspension set up suitable, what modifications etc do you recommend? Great channel good dialogue and no messing around. Regards kiwiadventurer.
Thanks Kiwi Adv, I really appreciate your comments. You really need to do something to the shock no matter what type of riding you want to do. at a minimum you need to wind up the spring pre-load as much as possible, but most will need a new spring. Once you do that the valving is not ideal. Best opting is a YSS shock or get you standard on rebuilt like mine has. The bike is great value, so in my opinion, spending money on suspension is acceptable. Plus, you get a bike set-up for your exact weight and riding style.
Just put my 550 ECU in. I suspected that the engine light at initial runs was possibly TPS sensor didn't have a value. So when I started the bike the first time , I did a TPS set start and the light disappeared as soon as the temp turnoff was done. So I suspect that is what the light is. TPS reset for those who have done one. Throughout the entire process DO NOT TOUCH THE THROTTLE! Start the motor and let it idle until the engine fan comes on ( It takes ages mostly because this bike is so well designed), DO NOT TOUCH THE THROTTLE! As soon as the radiator fan comes on and runs consistantly switch off the motor. DO NOT TOUCH THE THROTTLE! Restart the bike ( DO NOT TOUCH THE THROTTLE) and if you have done it properly the engine light should be off AND you should have the TPS resistance properly matched to the ECU . Similar process for most modern bikes. I don't know why you would set the max rpm to 11k as the power curve shows it is falling off well before the original max rpm. I still have to get a ride on mine ( same gearing as you)
I think you missed the information sticker on the ECU. The check engine light will be on for the first three engine cycles regardless of what you do. I just jumped on mine and rode it normal. Let me know what you think of the ECU and gearing.
@@ShonkyProductions Yeah I did see that. But I had a feeling that the engine light was the TPS being unset. If you do the TPS set when you instal it it not only makes the engine light go away, but means the TPS is synced with the ECU when you start riding it. It should run smoother straight away.
Awesome video. Do you know if the dyno graph applies to the 91 Octane Stock Improved ECU as well? I’m not really interested in replacing the stock exhaust. Thanks!
Hi Anthony, thanks for your kind words. I am running the stock air filter, but with the backfire screen removed. I'll be upgrading to a foam filter soon.
@@H3avyHaul3r Good question, I forgot to mention that. I tested with and without and I'm running without any baffle or spark arrestor at the moment. It is a bit louder on acceleration but when cruising, it's fine.
G'Day mate. Thinking of getting one of these bikes. Can you do a story about the suspension upgrades or/and the benefits of the upgraded rear sprocket?
This makes the fueling richer which is better for the engine and makes the engine runs cooler. If you're running an aftermarket exhaust or muffler without fixing the fueling, you are making a lean running engine even leaner. I can see no negatives for adding the 550 Performance ECU. What are your concerns re engine life?
@@ShonkyProductions Ah; my concern was about running at higher cylinder pressures, with the assumption; more power = more stress, but if it’s going from leaner to richer then perhaps I’m wrong.
Hi Barry, Fuel consumption stayed about the same... around 3.8L/100km and that's at 110kph. Because I run the 14/38 gearing and now with the new ECU, I can use 6th gear more so it helps keep the revs down.
With everything I've done it's probably cost another $2k on top of purchase price. But that's full suspension, exhaust, ECU and seat. Things a lot of us do to even the top price bikes. At the end of the day I've spent around $11,500 Aussie dollars and have the perfect lightweight adventure bike for ME. It's already proved itself as a do it all bike that will keep up with the big bikes.
@@jimmymok5943 Maverick does another ECU for the stock exhaust, that would be the best one to use if you want to keep the standard exhaust. The Stage 1 ECU needs intake and exhaust mods to work best.
Was thinking the same. One of the big pluses for this bike for adventure riding in it's range because of the economy ( and OK size of the tank ...I won't say big)
Really, it's about the same. I ride my bike hard but with the 14/38 gearing and the new ECU I can put it in 6th sooner and drop the revs when cruising the highway. It stayed about the same at 3.9L/100km.
Hi Tomas, really I don't notice any power loss. I do have it geared up with my 14/38, so I lost a little low-end power with that. I'm going to do a gearing comparison video soon and list the Pro's and Con's of each. Stay tuned. Sean
No, not at all. As I have changed to a 38t rear sprocket and with the increased torque, I can use 6th gear more and the fuel consumption is about the same. 3.8L/100.
@@georgecook5120 Great work George. I found I was riding the bike harder/faster just because I liked the new performance. Perhaps, like me, you might settle down in a few rides and the economy may improve.
That is interesting indeed, thx for the info. It confirmed my suspicion that it is still a but weak without tuning - despite the 250=>300 increase. So suspension upgrade ($500?), exhaust system ($1000?), ecu $350 + change. So for an extra $2000 you got a very nice adv bike. I think my versys-x is still better (more power) on road, but can't find anyone to increase my suspension travel by 5cm fromt&back not in EU, not UK, USA, nowhere...
Please remember that I have changed the standard gearing to 14/38 and that robs the bike of a little power and torque. If you have a look at my first couple of CRF 300 videos, I am running the taller gearing and standard ECU. th-cam.com/video/a1mzdnXjrIE/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/0b2uYVpjtVU/w-d-xo.html But, yes it is still only a 286cc motor. I haven't ridden the Versys-X but believe that it is great bike on the road. I had always planned on spending the extra $2000 to set up the CRF 300 Rally into my ultimate lightweight adventure bike and I am very happy with the results.
Use a Dynojet Power Vision 3 instead. It does the same (ign/fuel timings). Use a dynojet center to map your bike and your done. It is more expensive...
Sorry, now watched that video until the end abd while 28HP aren't much, the performance on highway and in the twisties with ECU seems sufficient. Thanks for the video!
Because I also swapped the 40t rear sprocket to a 38t rear sprocket, the mpgs stayed about the same. It has more torque so you don't need to rev it as hard.
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IMPORTANT INFO PLEASE READ IT ALL: US 91 octane rating is equivalent to Aussie 95 octaine.
My bike has the following mods:
- Full Moto-X Exhaust
- 550 performance ECU (First installed and tested in this video)
- 38 tooth rear sprocket
- Michelin Starcross 5 tyres with a 120/90 size on the rear.
- Full suspension re-spring and re-valve
- Protaper handlebars
- Barkbuster handguards
If you have any questions or want to see something in a future video please comment below.
Thanks for watching,
Sean
Thanks for that mate, I reckon a great video would be going through all the mods, their costs, their importance and your thoughts about them would be great, especially from an Australian perspective.
@@KJD1984 Great idea. I'll do it... Better clean up my shed for filming!
@@ShonkyProductions Awesome can't wait to see it! And a review of the MOTOX exhaust would also be cool as they are WAAAAYYY cheaper than the FMFs and Yoshi's of the world.
@@KJD1984 A review of the MOTO-X exhaust is coming soon in the next few weeks. I hope to test some other exhausts too.
Hi, great vids and great info! Are you still able to ride with the baffle in the Moto X silencer with the ECU stage 1? I mean can you still feel the extra power or that will completely nullify the ECU and the exhaust full system upgrade?
Thanks
Great stuff. I have the 550 Stock Improved 87 Octane and am happy with the difference. I also modded the air Box and slightly modded the stock exhaust. The stock improved ECU easily compensates for those changes. As you say, the bike 'pulls' now. That and the suspension upgrade to front and rear is a game changer on this bike.
Good to hear that the Stock Improved is working well too.
Which suspension?
@@salazam I have the K-Tech shock and the Race-Tech Fork Spring Kit. The Shock is awesome, but in hindsight I feel the fork spring kit has some design issues that prevent the full travel from being available when pushed to the limit. I think the front stock suspension is not nearly as bad as the stock shock, which is really bad. I could have left the front alone and be perfectly fine with just the K-Tech shock, IMO ;-)
@@Scoottoots Thanks! That's what I was thinking. I don't _really_ have a problem with the front, but the rear is gumdrops. That said I only have about 30 mins on the bike, but I did take it on some gnar trails.
Superb video ! I just picked up my CRF 300 rally yesterday., Rode 35 miles. Today I rode 115 miles. Love the bike ! I will do the ECU and a seat concepts seat. All sorts of other stuff too, of course, down the road ! My bike does have a annoying 4-5 k Buzzy rattle everyone talks about. A louder muffler will solve that !
Hi Kent, Congratulations on getting the new bike.
It's funny, I thought my bike didn't have the 4K rattle but then one day when I was just cruising to the shops, I could hear it. I have only heard it a couple of times now, a muffler will defiantly fix that!
good to know it works for you as advertised…my 550ecu is stuck in the USPS blackhole and hasn’t moved in a week (Chicago), so shipping wise i’d recommend asking Maverick/550 to investigate Fedex/DHL for OS buyers (ps UPS is terrible too) as you’ve found out….this is a great motor once it’s allowed to breath in/out/fuel/timed…and as i’ve found will easily pull taller 15t front sprocket with just intake/exhaust mods…so looking forward to the 550ecu now 🇦🇺
I hope yours comes soon. I had a 6-8 week wait. I actually lost track of when I ordered it. I was really wanting it for my 2 day adventure ride, but of course it turned up the day I got back
It's worth the wait 👍
What sort of exhaust did you fit. I;ve ordered a 300L, about to order the 550 ECU and looking at Moto x exhaust, At $360 Delivered to Australia so much cheaper but not sure if there is any performance uplift apart from weight
@@andrewo5138 i have the MotoX with version 1 muffler and no spark arrestor or baffle…it is dirtbike loud so beware (i have always worn earplugs anyway)…and with the wire screen removed from the airfilter, I noticed the bike able to pull a little better from low to midrange….
Just like all the other bikes i’ve had over the decades (think Honda XRs)…they responded to breathing in/out mods…
The stock muffler has at least one catalytic converter which looks like a honeycomb maze when viewed from the inlet end…no wonder the bike can’t breathe…along with the header pipe which is 10mm smaller than the MotoX header…
The motor is choked from factory and feels like a scooter…but just the same all these changes don’t make it a crf450…just a healthy modern 300 👍
UPS = useless parcel service 😂
Great videos Sean I have done the same as you buying the rally coming from a bigger bike. I ordered mine last March and picked it up in October fantastic little bike and have spent quite a bit on suspension and other goodie’s. I put the yoshimura full system on mine with the EJK and it lost to much torque so went back to stock but just ordered the 550 because of your video and will see how it goes .I live on the central coast and do all the same tracks as you the rally seems to get a bit of attention when I stop at Jerry’s pretty sure we will see lots more on the trails when people can get their hands on them Good to see you out there enjoying your rally
Keep up the good work looking forward to more videos.
Hi Kevin, great to hear that you are enjoying the 300 Rally as well. The 550performance ECU has a lot of advantages over the EJC so I think you will find it suits the 300 Rally better.
I'm also on the Central Coast and it would be great to catch up sometime for a ride and compare bikes and setups. If you are interested, please contact me via my email: sst.adventure@gmail.com
I'll be making lots more videos and look forward to hopefully meeting you.
Sean
Definitely you have advantage from ECU Company. I had two Balkan tours and I usually rode 110-120kmh without any problem . I have 95kg plus 10kg luggage. I have stock 300L. Your video it's a promo. I complete my observation to mention that I have European version with 27Hp only.
Yes, the added torque from the ECU upgrade is nice. But, it sounds like your 300L is doing just fine. It's a shame that the Euro ECU is different.
hmmm i have a stock crf300l rally 2024 with stock tooth setup and no problems at all with 6th gear from 70km/h im cruising 110-115 between 6k -7k rpm and when overtakeing i just twist throttle to fulll and it pulls to 135 km/h no problems.
Also im 1.92m in height and 112kg in weight.
Is that the speedo reading, or the actual GPS confirmed speeds?
@@ShonkyProductions reading from the speedo yes
@@Andriesdemotorrijder the stock Speedo is a little optimistic to say the least. I have changed the bikes gearing with different sprocket and tyre sizes to make the speedo accurate (confirmed by GPS). You may be surprised, and a little disappointed by your actual speeds.
I'm running a similar setup and pretty happy with the results as well. Thanks for the video!
Good to hear. I went for the 38t rear sprocket and ECU after reading good reviews on ADVrider. I'm happy to report, they were right... it works great with the taller gearing.
@@ShonkyProductions Right on, I also ordered the 38t rear after reading the same reviews but haven't installed it yet. Glad to hear you like it, too.
Glad you like it. I have my Yoshi pipe DNA filter and stage 1 ecu set to arrive in 4 days. I'm hoping it's as good as everyone says.
You will love it. Depending on what type of riding you do, you may like to try a 38t rear sprocket.
... Please post back after the changes. I'm going to look at your channel. It is 10-20-2023 today.
@@240LTS I like the mods. The full racetech suspension made the most drastic change. I road in the Rockies with and without and can't believe how much better the bike performed.
@@marcusleestudios7612 ... I have the Level 1 Rally Raid front and back. Considering the 550 and a full exhaust system. What one? I do not know with reading so many mixed reviews. Want to do this only once. $$$$$$$
You are right on the ball mate with this video. On your recommend I have installed the 550 on my 300l. I have kept the OEM exhaust thou. I am going to try a 38t rear sometime. Thks again ,great video.
Great work Garth, let me know what you think of the 38t rear sprocket.
Sean
Thanks for the review! Which exhaust did you choose and how loud is it? I like how quiet the bike is in stock form.
Hi, thanks for your comments. I have the full Moto-X exhaust and run it without the baffle. It is louder than stock, but not offensive. I understand about wanting to keep it quiet and I may do some testing with the baffle in on another video to document what effect it has on performance.
That looks like a great upgrade - but what does it do to the fuel economy? I love that the CRF is so miserly with petrol, it's one of the (many) positives about this bike.
Hi Peter, as I also have changed the gearing from 14/40 to 14/38 I find the fuel economy about the same. the 38 rear sprocket and this ECU lets you use 6th gear more so you can keep the revs down.
I will be installing some CBR300 cams and trying the Stage 2 tune next for a little extra top end power.
Hey I love what you are doing with your rally! Could you maybe do a quick vid of everything you have done to the bike?? Haha I would like to do the same with mine.
But in the states the Yoshimura Pipes are not available and was curious about the motox pipes.(Im not sure if that is what is on your bike, I just saw the pic in this vid) thanks!
Hi Jeff, thanks for watching... that's a great idea for a video and I will definitely do it when I'm back home in about a week.
I'm running the full Moto-X exhaust and it's a great system for the money. I'm thinking about doing a review of a few different exhaust systems with a bit of back-to-back testing in a future video. If I make it to 1000 subscribers I will spend the money to buy a few different exhaust systems for a full review/test.
Thanks for sharing, will have to pick one of these up when my rally comes in.
Excellent, glad you liked it. I hope your rally come soon.
Good review mate. Did you know that their 91 octane rating is equivalent to our 95?
Hi Tim,
I do now... haha. Thanks for watching and letting me know. It's good to learn something new.
@@ShonkyProductions we use ron and they use mon. Confusing, but once you know the difference it's easy.
Yes, the american 91 is equivalent to 95 in many other contries in the world. The american octane is PON(pump octane number) witch is the avg of RON(reserch octane number) & MON(motor octane number)
@@Wanna_be_strong82 yep, I've got it now. I'm running our 95 and it's working well with the 550 performance ECU.
Great to know that! I actually ride with 98 octane only, if I upgrade de ECU to the 550, should I start filling up with 95 or keep 98? Thanks for the video and Information . Really helpful! 🙌🙌🙌🙌
So Idk if I can just not do math or what, but from what I can see the stock top speed of the 300 Rally is 83 MPH(133 KPH). It seems like you are getting like 120 max, am I wrong? Just curious if you had any speed improvement from stock. I am buying this bike and want to know how to get a few more MPH/KPH out of it. Thank you in advance for any help you can provide.
Thanks for your comment. I can get more out of it, just in that video 120 was all I did. Our speed limit is 110kph.
I can sit on 128kph/80mph at around 8000rpm. I have added an extra baffle to my bike as I like a quiet exhaust. Without baffles, it has a little bit more top speed.
If you are wanting more than 80mph out of this bike, it's probably the wrong bike for you. It's only 286cc, so you must keep that in mind.
The 550 Performance ECU richens the stock lean fueling and adds torque more than outright power.
Great 😊 report Sean we seem to have the same experience with the 550.
The taller rear tyre and the 38 rear seem to have dropped your highway revs quite a bit
My economy at 110 on the gps is about the same 3.8 with standard gearing but if I back off it can still give 3.1 though that is with 95 fuel standard exhaust and standard tyres.
You seemed to have no problems with the steep hills on the gnarly ride you showed us and that was before the 550.Any regrets on the 38 rear in the tight steep trails??
Cheers Tony
I would love to hear how it goes low down on tight stuff too. Has it lost any tractability in hill starts and idling along speeds? Looks like it would by the graph………
Hi Tony, thanks for watching and your kind comments. I'm going to do another video and test the exhaust with the baffle in and a few other mods. I will document fuel economy at different speeds when I do. I have zero regrets with the 38t rear, even in the steep trails. I can still start off in 2nd gear on the flat and probably on slight inclines.
To also answer Shaun Johnston's question, it went fine in the tight stuff and has lost no traceability in the hills and tight going. I haven't tested idle speeds yet but you just gave me an idea for another video just on the changes the 38t rear made and what it can still do.
Please keep in mind that I am an experienced enduro rider and still race the occasional Extreme Enduro event so I know how to use the clutch and find traction in steep and slippery conditions. A novice might be better suited to the 40t rear sprocket... but only in tight, steep going which hopefully they shouldn't be taking the rally into!
Hope that answers your questions and please keep them coming. I'm happy to answer them and get some ideas for more videos.
Sean
@@theoriginalEmuman Hi Shaun, please see the above answer.
@@ShonkyProductions 😂 yes Sean we can easily tell you are very experienced simply by the way you keep up with Nugget and company.
Great stuff mate can’t waited. Thanks again
Cheers Tony
Thanks Sean. Look forward to the future videos. Love your work. So long as you can continue to own those Huskies I’ll be happy.
I tuned the ECU on my Rally and did some 2nd gear rolling starts pulls against my son on the 300L. Rider weight difference evened out the bikes and I pulled consistently on the untuned 300. Not a huge difference but there nonetheless. I now have the ECU tuned on the 300L also but haven’t had time to try it out.
Great to know it works well on the 250. Let me know what you think of it on the 300.
Spent a few hours in the woods on my standard 300 with the 550 tune and the difference is more even more pronounced than I feel on the 300 Rally. Planning to do the 38 tooth on the Rally and a 42 on the standard in keeping with each bikes primary role
@@RedC63AMG Sounds like you will have the perfect setup for both then 👍
Have you checked the mpgs after the mod? Is there much of a drop if any on mileage. I have the GPR slipon on my 2017 rally. Have you removed any of the emissions. I'm in California. Any other mods ? let me know, Thanks, Jeff
Hi Jeff, thanks for your comments.
With my 14/38 gearing, Full Moto-X exhaust and the Stage 1 ECU I'm getting about 3.8L/100km.
Look out for a full review on mileage with 14/38 and 14/40 gearing.
I'll also be doing a review of all my mods and a SUBSCRIBER GIVAWAY ( New Yamoto Bash plate)
Stay tuned.
@@ShonkyProductions Interesting regarding the fuel economy. With my stock 300L I get about 3.1L/100km (not going easy on the throttle in mountainous terrain) so It seems the new ECU causes you to use quite a bit more gas. I notice in your mods list you haven't installed an aftermarket air filter to compliment your exhaust. That may help a bit. The stage one ECU is designed for modded intake and exhaust, so you may be running a tad rich at the moment especially in open loop mode. Just some thoughts :-)
@@Scoottoots Good thinking, I took the backfire screen off my air filter but I will be getting a foam filter soon.
My economy without the ECU was still around 3.6L/100km so it's not too far off. The Rally with the screen extender is pushing a bigger size through the air over your 300L also. Maybe that pushes the fuel economy up a bit too.
@@ShonkyProductions That's a good point regarding the windscreen and air resistance affecting economy. Removing the backfire screen on the filter does make a noticeable difference. The air flows pretty good with that removed. A small risk I guess, but...?
I haven't decided if I will do any performance mods. I did a fair bit on my former CRF250L but got tired of the loud Yoshi system. What foam filter are you contemplating purchasing? I'm not aware of one available. I imagine K & N will get a filter going for the 300's. I used a K & N for the 250L and it was good. I tried some Uni Filter (Australian branch) foam filters on the 250L but was dissatisfied. They allowed air to bypass the outer filter layer at the edges where it overlapped the inner filter. The K & N was tight and I never found any dust in the intake tube to throttle body. DNA make a filter for the 300's but it's way more expensive than the K & N will likely be.
Anyway, cheers. I enjoyed your video and will be checking in for more down the line:-)
@@Scoottoots As Uni Filter is just down the road from me, I'll see what their 300 filter looks like but may use the K&N.
Good review. Please add and pin a comment on how the fuel economy has changed for you.
Thanks, and I will do (Once I figure out how to pin a comment).
It's stayed about the same at 3.8l/100km. With the taller gearing and 38t rear sprocket I'm using 6th sooner and more ofter which keeps the revs down.
My stock European KLX250S from 2009 can do 140Km/h on flat and 157km/h on slight downhill, what kind of turtle the CRF is??
Fantastic review. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks Michael, I've just finish shooting a video where I compare stock V modified, so keep an eye out for that soon.
Shooting from the hip. Your channel is made for me as I like challenges my AT is not capable off. So... I've ordered a 300 Rally and the research begins. Where better to start than Shonky Productions. Subscribed👍. I've been researching the luggage side of things and like your ideas with your multi day set up. The type of riding I 've seen you do with a full camping load raises my top question. If you don't find the rear suspension set up suitable, what modifications etc do you recommend? Great channel good dialogue and no messing around. Regards kiwiadventurer.
Thanks Kiwi Adv, I really appreciate your comments.
You really need to do something to the shock no matter what type of riding you want to do. at a minimum you need to wind up the spring pre-load as much as possible, but most will need a new spring. Once you do that the valving is not ideal.
Best opting is a YSS shock or get you standard on rebuilt like mine has. The bike is great value, so in my opinion, spending money on suspension is acceptable. Plus, you get a bike set-up for your exact weight and riding style.
Just put my 550 ECU in. I suspected that the engine light at initial runs was possibly TPS sensor didn't have a value. So when I started the bike the first time , I did a TPS set start and the light disappeared as soon as the temp turnoff was done. So I suspect that is what the light is.
TPS reset for those who have done one. Throughout the entire process DO NOT TOUCH THE THROTTLE!
Start the motor and let it idle until the engine fan comes on ( It takes ages mostly because this bike is so well designed), DO NOT TOUCH THE THROTTLE!
As soon as the radiator fan comes on and runs consistantly switch off the motor. DO NOT TOUCH THE THROTTLE!
Restart the bike ( DO NOT TOUCH THE THROTTLE) and if you have done it properly the engine light should be off AND you should have the TPS resistance properly matched to the ECU .
Similar process for most modern bikes.
I don't know why you would set the max rpm to 11k as the power curve shows it is falling off well before the original max rpm.
I still have to get a ride on mine ( same gearing as you)
I think you missed the information sticker on the ECU. The check engine light will be on for the first three engine cycles regardless of what you do. I just jumped on mine and rode it normal.
Let me know what you think of the ECU and gearing.
@@ShonkyProductions Yeah I did see that. But I had a feeling that the engine light was the TPS being unset. If you do the TPS set when you instal it it not only makes the engine light go away, but means the TPS is synced with the ECU when you start riding it. It should run smoother straight away.
@@gregjetnikoff7124 Good to know. Thanks.
Great job thanks for the review .
Awesome video. Do you know if the dyno graph applies to the 91 Octane Stock Improved ECU as well? I’m not really interested in replacing the stock exhaust. Thanks!
Hi Rob, it's for their Stage 1 tune, but I know someone who has the standard exhaust and is very happy with their Stock Improved tune.
Very interesting video ! I fancy one of these for my 250 Rally.
Which screen extension are you using?
Thanks 👍
They do a couple for the 250 as well.
The screen is just a cheap one off eBay. If you do a search, you will find plenty of them.
Hi, I have a 300L. Have you removed the PAIR system before or after ECU installing?
No, I haven't removed the PAIR system. Just added the exhaust and ECU.
@@ShonkyProductions ok thanks. I already have an exhaust similar to your. I'll add the ECU after a rear shock update. Thanks.
Hey Mate great video can i ask what the wait time was on shipping? and is your bike a 2021 or 2022 model?
cheers.
I did have to wait a while for shipping, maybe 6-8 weeks but it was during covid lockdown. Mine is a 2021 model.
fantastic sean,cant wait to get my bike i have a shed full of bits to put on it,if can sitt on 110 im happy :)
Hi Roger, thanks for your kind words.
As you can see, 110kph is easy. Hope your bike comes soon.
Sean
@@ShonkyProductions yes I was impressed how it went,im looking forward to more vids,April so far away 😀
what's the current fuel consumption vs the old stock?
Enjoyed your vid. Well done! One question, are you running stock air filter?
Hi Anthony, thanks for your kind words.
I am running the stock air filter, but with the backfire screen removed. I'll be upgrading to a foam filter soon.
@@ShonkyProductions do you have the MotoX baffle or spark arrestor installed
@@H3avyHaul3r Good question, I forgot to mention that. I tested with and without and I'm running without any baffle or spark arrestor at the moment. It is a bit louder on acceleration but when cruising, it's fine.
@@ShonkyProductions who makes the foam filter??
G'Day mate. Thinking of getting one of these bikes. Can you do a story about the suspension upgrades or/and the benefits of the upgraded rear sprocket?
Yes, I have a new video detailing all my mods coming out in the next few days.
Stay tuned.
Is there a difference in changing to 38 from 40 rear instead doing 14 to 15 front?
Only a very slight difference in gearing, but the main thing for me was that I couldn't get a 15t front at the time.
It’s tempting! But I wonder about engine life.
This makes the fueling richer which is better for the engine and makes the engine runs cooler.
If you're running an aftermarket exhaust or muffler without fixing the fueling, you are making a lean running engine even leaner.
I can see no negatives for adding the 550 Performance ECU.
What are your concerns re engine life?
@@ShonkyProductions Ah; my concern was about running at higher cylinder pressures, with the assumption; more power = more stress, but if it’s going from leaner to richer then perhaps I’m wrong.
Great video we’re can I get this ECU thanks
Hi Graham,
Google 550 Performance. They have a website where you can order it from.
Thanks but I don’t think they do Uk
Or European models I have sent them a e mail thanks for your reply.love the videos
Sounds good. I learned of a new product.
Thanks for watching
Good review. Did you notice a difference in fuel consumption?
Hi Barry,
Fuel consumption stayed about the same... around 3.8L/100km and that's at 110kph.
Because I run the 14/38 gearing and now with the new ECU, I can use 6th gear more so it helps keep the revs down.
I wonder if ECU mods void their 2 year warranty?
That's a good question. Being a Honda, I doubt I'll have to worry about that though...
Definitely and engine lifespan decreased...
I have a cb300f, same engine as far as I know but road going....
Would I get similar improvements ?
I'm not sure they do a tune specifically for the road bikes. Best send Maverick a message and ask his opinion.
Most useful
Thanks, I'm glad you thought so.
Has it affected the fuel economy much?
Hi Sputnik,
No, it hasn't. Because I run the 14/38 gearing, and with the new ECU, I can use 6th gear more. It still returns around 3.8L/100km.
Thanks for the information
My pleasure
Are you goin to get the Twinair filter or new UNI filter?
I'm now running the Uni Filter. I like having the easily replaceable pre filter
Thinking about picking this up, how much did everything cost you for all your upgrades?
With everything I've done it's probably cost another $2k on top of purchase price. But that's full suspension, exhaust, ECU and seat. Things a lot of us do to even the top price bikes.
At the end of the day I've spent around $11,500 Aussie dollars and have the perfect lightweight adventure bike for ME.
It's already proved itself as a do it all bike that will keep up with the big bikes.
@@ShonkyProductions Can I just do ECU without exhaust? I want to use this bike to go touring and some light trails.
@@jimmymok5943 Maverick does another ECU for the stock exhaust, that would be the best one to use if you want to keep the standard exhaust.
The Stage 1 ECU needs intake and exhaust mods to work best.
What does it rev at at 100kmh with your gearing.?
Hi LT, I can't remember off hand but I'll check some other footage and report back.... might be tomorrow though.
L T, I just looked at some footage and it's around 5,800-6000rpm at 100kph.
Hope that helps.
Sean
@@ShonkyProductions thanks heaps for that.
Can you tell me what the fuel ⛽️ economy is like 👍 ( is it better , worse or the same )
Was thinking the same. One of the big pluses for this bike for adventure riding in it's range because of the economy ( and OK size of the tank ...I won't say big)
Really, it's about the same. I ride my bike hard but with the 14/38 gearing and the new ECU I can put it in 6th sooner and drop the revs when cruising the highway. It stayed about the same at 3.9L/100km.
@@ShonkyProductions Good 👍 to know thanks
If I am going to go with this ECU when I get my 300, is it also necessary to upgrade the exhaust? Thanks.
No, it's not necessary to upgrade the exhaust. 550 performance has an ECU tune called Stock Improved that is for the standard exhaust.
@@ShonkyProductions cheers. It looks really worthwhile.
How’s the power in the lower rpms? The graph showed a trade off to get more power in higher rpm you loose on the bottom
Hi Tomas, really I don't notice any power loss. I do have it geared up with my 14/38, so I lost a little low-end power with that.
I'm going to do a gearing comparison video soon and list the Pro's and Con's of each.
Stay tuned.
Sean
Have you noticed a reduction in tank range since adding the chip?
No, not at all. As I have changed to a 38t rear sprocket and with the increased torque, I can use 6th gear more and the fuel consumption is about the same. 3.8L/100.
What suspension mods have you done mate? Cheers
My factory suspension has been re-valved and re-sprung by a local suspension shop. It's great.
In terms of percentage change, how much did your fuel economy change after you upgraded the ECU?
I think it stay about the same because I put the 38t rear sprocket on and with the 550 ECU I can use 6th gear more.
@@ShonkyProductions I got the 550 ECU and the performance is very good. The fuel economy went down about 10%. I think it's worth the trade off.
@@georgecook5120 Great work George. I found I was riding the bike harder/faster just because I liked the new performance. Perhaps, like me, you might settle down in a few rides and the economy may improve.
That is interesting indeed, thx for the info. It confirmed my suspicion that it is still a but weak without tuning - despite the 250=>300 increase. So suspension upgrade ($500?), exhaust system ($1000?), ecu $350 + change. So for an extra $2000 you got a very nice adv bike. I think my versys-x is still better (more power) on road, but can't find anyone to increase my suspension travel by 5cm fromt&back not in EU, not UK, USA, nowhere...
Please remember that I have changed the standard gearing to 14/38 and that robs the bike of a little power and torque. If you have a look at my first couple of CRF 300 videos, I am running the taller gearing and standard ECU.
th-cam.com/video/a1mzdnXjrIE/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/0b2uYVpjtVU/w-d-xo.html
But, yes it is still only a 286cc motor. I haven't ridden the Versys-X but believe that it is great bike on the road. I had always planned on spending the extra $2000 to set up the CRF 300 Rally into my ultimate lightweight adventure bike and I am very happy with the results.
Where did you get the 38 tooth sprocket?
If you have a look at my Mods video, there is a link in the description .
th-cam.com/video/Rh6TvaNyFuI/w-d-xo.html
Thank you!
About the ecu. If I may ask, did you change it on your own? I mean, just plug'n play? Not any reset or adjustment required?
That is correct. just un-plug the original and plug in the new one. Very easy.
I just bought my ecu too
Excellent, what gearing are you running?
Let me know what you think.
Sean
I been running everything stock besides the ecu and i did air box mod
@@zahidmeza151 Should pull harder than mine then as I've got 14/38 gearing.
Anyone has a solution for us, the EU folks, on how to tune the engine? Maverick's solution does not cover the EU bikes 🙁
Sorry, I haven't heard of a solution for EU bikes yet.
Use a Dynojet Power Vision 3 instead. It does the same (ign/fuel timings). Use a dynojet center to map your bike and your done. It is more expensive...
Did u forget the topspeed? You did not hit the topspeed? Aweeee!!!
Hi Ray, I was trying not to get the police involved! There is usually a police officer with a radar gun on that bit of road.
Buy a creepy bike and tune it, or leave it and get a KTM 690 Enduro. Sorry, I have made my choice, guys
Sorry, now watched that video until the end abd while 28HP aren't much, the performance on highway and in the twisties with ECU seems sufficient.
Thanks for the video!
@@ChristophLeitl 22rwhp. Gain a couple now 24rwhp at 330+ lbs…
What did it do to the mpgs?
Because I also swapped the 40t rear sprocket to a 38t rear sprocket, the mpgs stayed about the same. It has more torque so you don't need to rev it as hard.