I love Leslie! Her courage going after these topics is inspiring. She's one of the best and most important researchers and I'm personally grateful for her reigniting my interest in 2017.
@16:50, I support what Ms. Kean says here. I’m an experiencer, and I’ve been skeptically aware of each decades developments. 2017 was a vindication for me, but my wife, who grew up thinking anyone who believed in UFOs was crazy, REFUSES to look at it, doesn’t want to hear about it, and recoils with frustration when the topic comes up. She’s a medical professional with decades of experience, and for her, it collides with her understanding of the universe like a semi truck meeting a freight train. That ontological shock aspect of disclosure is very real.
The French COMETA report was instrumental in getting Leslie on board on this subject, I recommend everyone reads their conclusions back from the late 90’s.
Most people do not want to talk about this subject. The majority of people that I talk to immediately check out mentally and emotionally and go somewhere else - they look away so to speak. It's like they've been conditioned over time to pass over the subject and ignore it completely. Their standard paradigm won't allow it to be a part of their reality. Too frightening.
Your comment sounds like it was written by me. I would say the same exact thing. I have heard it described as mass amnesia. And many experiencers report an odd loss of interest in the event, even among groups of witnesses. they may not talk about it again for years. But it also happens in the moments after not just years. So I think there's something to the amnesia aspect.
This is one of the reasons for the secrecy. The CIA and the Brookings report believes that many people with rigid worldviews would commit suicide in the event of catastrophic disclosure.
@@88Heckenlively I try to talk to my family about my sighting and the disclosure movement and I get laughed at. It’s disheartening but I know it’s very real and one day, maybe soon, the veil will drop.
@@Bertiesghost Just watched your clip with Jim Marrs about worldview paradigm. He was amazing - I read a few of his books and always appreciated his perspective. Their is a professor from Stanford University named Garry Nolan who is doing research into the UFO phenomenon that is mind-blowing on why some people see UFOs and some do not at the same time.
What Leslie brings is a pragmatic and practical approach. Looking forward to watching the series that covers a number of different perspectives in research. It’s not just Govt/military it’s equally about Experiencer’s they need a voice too. For me conscientious includes NDE’e, Paranormal, UAP’s , Experiencer’s’ , Psychical abilities, OBE’s , life, metaphysics, physics, physicality, esotericism, mysticism all unknown potentials all connected. Someone once said we need to be considering “impossible thinking” beyond our humanness defined apertures of culture norms and beliefs.
Reaching the broader audience is the big thing about Luis' book. If you are plugged into the UFO community, you've read or heard about most of the stuff in the book. Elizondo does a great job of building a case for greater transparency and disclosure, regarding UAP, particularly given his government and military background. The larger general public needs to get on board and begin pressuring Congress and the President to force the Pentagon, other government agencies and the involved private corporations to come clean about UAP.
Oh, I agree. Lue didn't write his book for those who are " initiated" into the enigma of the UFO/UAP phenomena, but to those unfamiliar with it. Most Americans are just so caught up in the day-to-day that we all have to deal with. Most don't have the time to do the "research ". I happen to be retired and have been interested since the 1960's, so I have time to delve into it.
This is a mature and grounded discussion. I enjoyed it very much and have subscribed for more. For some reason I've missed Leslie in person before this so I tuned in right away when I saw you were speaking with her. Thanks, James.
I’m really confused. This has been going on for 75 years, probably longer. How much more gradual can it be? And if those supposedly in power can handle the truth of what they know, what right have they got to decide for the rest of us that we can’t?
Really enjoyed this James! Glad she brought up that part in the book around 10:25 when Lue is sitting in his car. That's kind of how I reacted slowly learning about the phenomenon lol. Trying to grasp the magnitude of the information! Also glad you brought up that point around 1:13:44 about potential agreements with non-human intelligence. Before Grusch, I feel like i was pretty read up on most of the information, but hearing that from Grusch threw me in for a loop. I still don't know what to think of it, but its mindblowing that aspect even came up with whoever Grusch might have talked to. As always, thanks for your time man! ♥
Another good interview sir. Thank you for posting this! It's kind of crazy that there has been confirmation (although disputed) of bodies and craft being recovered. That used to be the stuff of X Files and none of it is a complete surprise. Truth is stranger than fiction!
My wife and I saw three grey metallic spheres flying low and fairly fast at about 300 ft elevation. They were the size of a small car. Flying from West to East over Lake Michigan while we we at the shore in Chicago.
As a life long experiencer of the phenomenon with crafts/nhi/orbs/spirits we are treated like third class citizens for disclosure but disclosure will come from we the people.. thank you for a fantastic interview 🙏🏼
Seriously. Don't look to the U.S. government for disclosure. I just don't see that in the cards. When disclosure happens, either the NIH will reveal themselves, or it will come as a societal evolution as more evidence and facts are whittled out, a little at a time...
That may be the way... Hope not! But, the unexpected can occur at literally any moment. In that sense, I think we should remain open to Catastrophic Disclosure as being a welcome possibility.
great interview james. you’ve become pretty comfortable asking the tough questions. :) I’d love to see leslie do a book on the similarities between the different modalities. ☮️❤️😃
I had a green orb about the size of a golf ball fly into my house and across the room after a long meditation/astral projection session. It stopped in the upper doorway across the room and startled the heck out of me. I gasped! It seemed to be sensitive to my fear and it made a 90° turn and left down the hallway. Upset the wife and she made me promise I'd never do that type of meditation in the house again - she ain't having it!
I guess you can say, I was was immensely impresses by you and Leslie discussing UAPs, that I felt I could skip a day, taking one of my depression meds.
I wish the "honey, im home" orbs, or "hitchhiker orbs", would be discussed more in depth. This side of the Phenomenon is so interesting and baffeling. The color of orbs indicate a frequency and energy level. They seem to match the chakras and the color schemes associated with our personal and spiritual health.
This conversation does a great job of highlighting Leslie Kean's breadth of knowledge on the topic of the phenomenon overall and her insight in contextualizing the various manifestations of the paranormal without defining it. Another example of an individual I am glad is "on the case". FWIW, James, you asked a few other commenters what inconsistencies in Imminent they found concerning. For me, it's the Aguadilla incident being described as though it was captured from a helicopter when it seems to obviously be a C-130 fixed wing aircraft or similar and the confusion regarding white hot/black in describing the Nimitz incident. That said, I am still giving Lue the benefit of the doubt, but I would love to hear from him on that, even if it's just a correction.
We out here in the ufology world love you Leslie and James. Keep up the fine work both of you! So excited about your play Leslie- hope you find a fine producer to take this fascinating topic to the theatre and or tv and steaming world! The world needs art to imitate reality in this area, so that it gets educated people at last talking about it openly -and with respect for the “believer”, -who should now be called simply “the informed”. Asking me if I’m a believer is like asking “do you believe in electricity?”. I try not to look at them as if they are morons and it tests my responsible and respectful teaching skills! These are the sort of people who we need to buy Lui’s book for. Possibly for Christmas after we have read it ourselves!
It drives me bonkers when I hear o it could be too scary and we need protecting. God damn it I wanna know the truth no matter what it is. Who gets to decide what we can and cannot handle. I want to know what reality is not some BS fake reality someone else has decided to put us in.
Someone please help me, address my obsessive- compulsive condition, I can't stop watching you and Leslie on this episode, over, over, over, over, over, over, and over again.
Leslie, thank you for everything that you have done for all of us. I experienced a large triangle about 300-400 feet over my car in down town phoenix in the early 90’s. It was silent and only moving around 35 miles per hour. It freaked me out so much. After I saw the look on my girlfriends face after I told her, I decided not to tell anyone else, ha. But during Covid because of your article with the New York Times I decided to study the UFO Topic for thousands of hours. I finally decided they are for real. I still have problems believing it because I was programmed for life, not to believe, Eek. I also think most of the world is ready to find out, plus believe it may hope this dangerous human race get a better grip on how to treat each other. 🙏💙💜💚🙏😇
October 20th, 2024 is the launch date for Global Disclosure Day around the world. It will be the first international publicly declared day about the phenomenon like Earth Day is today for the environmental movement. Stay tune in at New Paradigm Institute for more information and be part of the Citizens for Disclosure movement.
Listened to Lou on recent C2C interview with George Knapp. Listened to Lou’s audiobook(Imminent). Listened to other people’s take on his book. Listened to his interviews TOE. I got this suspicion that no doubt what he is giving us is a Warning. Hence his book title. That, something is coming. And, whatever this something is will cause a no doubt situation(a catastrophic disclosure)where the United States will have no choice but to capitulate.
Good interview. As always lots to think about. I do want to say after years as an experiencer I have interacted with thousands of orbs of different types. I have hundred of photos of blue orbs. I don’t understand people perpetuating the idea they are blue meanies? I never felt threatened or was harmed in anyway.
Hey! Same here. I've had many orb interactions, and none of them affected me negatively. The report they have documentation, and I don't doubt it. I know some of the researchers involved. It is a complex issue.
@@EngagingThePhenomenon right and I understand that, but it gets repeated over and over like it is the only truth about blue orbs. I do also understand they can affect people and animals. There was a Giant red orb that visited me and my dog for a few years in Texas. I am sure it was also a ship. When it was on or near the ground it seemed to be in a transdimensional space as it was less solid and somewhat transparent. But this orb could put my dog to sleep. I guess what I feel is needed is a balance to that narrative, so when I can I will make a counter statement regarding the blue orbs not ALL being dangerous.
Revealing specifics regarding companies involved in Legacy operations opens up the very real possibility of espionage, fraud, foreign threats, employee compromise, direct targeting, etc. The government simply cannot open named companies to such a variety of internal and external dangers. No way. We, the public, have to understand that nature of secrecy and accept it for what it is.
During my experience, every clock in my house had a different time. I was perceiving different timelines through my TV. It all started by knowing I was a spark of the universe. I suddenly knew we have DNA from Earth and our cosmic cousins. Then I knew we stop the wheel of karma through forgiveness. The last sudden knowing is that we create our future with what we believe and we can shift timelines with our beliefs and knowledge.
Beware of assholes, who are disingenuous disinformation agents, employed by the Pentagon that would have you believe, there are no rabbits down a 🐰🐰 🐰 hole.
8:44 I did the same! The version I highlighted and annotated all through is on display at work, and my personalized autographed one is safe at home. :-)
@@EngagingThePhenomenon and normally, I do not either, but it depends on the book itself. Hard to find books, hardbacks, or collector items I do not mark up at all. But easy to find paperbacks, yes. And the only reason why I did that to Elizondo's book it's because I had two of them.
Leslie has a very pleasant voice and classy speaking style. She also speaks with her hands like an Italian for emphasis, which is endearing. About the aliens, I personally think they are a danger to mankind, which in reading between the lines, Lue seems to believe as well.
Ross Coulthart said a non-human ship has been found, but its to large to move, so they built a building around it. I can't get this out of my head! Does anybody have any ideas??
actually: YES. sort of ;-> he insists on it being outside USA, that is a bit confusing to me, but my explanation would be that the original statement was "on the territory of another NATION"... to get to the point, short and sharp: "Spaceport America". don't dismiss it beforehand, have a CLOSE look first, literally and figuratively, google and google earth. flimsy giant building in the middle of the nowhere right next (50 mls) to holloman/whitesands. I am absolutely convinced. or is it another one?
Great interview James . More answers will = more qustions and so on . Spiritual evolution . Seems very logical . In the end we will be at one with the truth of cosmic reality . That's what i think they are hiding , uap is just the beginning.
The experiencer element is national security as well. NHI - human interaction, if actually acknowledged, would be incredibly natsec relevant. Cleared folks have to report to their security officers any unusual contacts, or contacts or relationships with non-citizens. You have NHI and NHI tech interacting with people on a massive scale. How is that not NatSec relevant? Of course it is. I think it's just a question of getting people to feel safe enough to talk about that. As you noted, Luis' book paves the way.
Could be. Unless it's an op being run by someone doing experiments on people...Then it'll be hidden until it can't be. There is a long history of governments doing experiments on an unsuspecting public.
Luis Elizondo´s Book is great. It´s a Page Turner. Even, if you not a Newbe in the UFO-/UAP-/USO-/Abduction-/Alien-/ET-/Remote Viedwing-/Orbs-/Paranomal-/Hitchhiker-Effekt-Topic. To all the Debunker Comments like from Mick West the Serial Debunker or the "So called Sceptics" what are YOU doing here? If you are not interested in the Topic, get a Hobby. Crochet or Knitting, could be the right Hobby, for You. If you just try to Poo-Pooing the Topic or Luis Elizondo´s Book or what James Landoli and Leslie Kean are telling us or talking together about, then, get a hobby. Get lost.!
@@EngagingThePhenomenon James, I have a question for you. We know that those who have experiences tend to continue to have them and one of the reasons you and others are involved in this subject (think Jay Christopher King) is because of your past experiences. What I am curious about is, have you (or anyone you know of) had any anomalous experiences since you started discussing this topic on social media? Has oipen discussion of the topic curtailed these events?
Most people who think orbs are dangerous are the people who dont do CE5. Consciousness is a mirror. Whatever you project from your consciousness you will get back.
I experienced an Orb many years ago in the GA woods and it looked identical to somebody holding a flashlight as far as shape and color goes but what I noticed immediately that really shook me was the fact there seemed to be NO light emitting from this ORB. It was moving in the darkness amongst the trees and nothing was illuminated.
Interesting. Uncertain if this is a natural phenomena or part of the whole UAP enigma. Many people who have experience with the " Hitchhiker Effect" report these glowing orbs as part of that phenomena. IDK.
What’s also important to note is that the Editor in Chief of the New York Times used to be an actress…she played the role of Annie Streiber in “Communion”. Let that sink in.
Mother Nature works in mysterious ways. She initiated what we are now experiencing with NHI, that people were always curious, that our government is now beginning to take it seriously.
Is it possible there is a percentage increase of auto immune issues connected to some of this phenomena? I work in the health field and understand the US dietary problems. But, pretty much every person I know of that an experience with this has a current auto immune issue. A good example is Chris Bledsoe. His gut has been healed, thankfully. But he still has arthritis caused by an auto immune issue. Just wondering. 🤔
Not sure. Of course, it would need to be studied. I know plenty of experiencers without such a disease. But, there could still be some kind of connection.
Really enjoyed this interview. Possibly the next time you have Ms. Kean on, you can ask the following (simple) question: what do you say to somebody like me who reads Luis Elizondo's incredible testimony ... but which is the polar opposite of what Dr. Kirkpatrick AND now Ted Phillips of AARO leadership have stated?? AARO almost seems daring Elizondo, Grusch, and others to show them the smoking gun, and not just be albeit sincere, but misinformed, story tellers of NHI . Would Kirkpatrick and Phillips really risk their reputations if they really knew "The Program" exists?? Much of the "data" that was viewed by Kirkpatrick and Elizondo I assume would have been the same.
James, do you think Chris Bledsoe’s experiences are related to the hinted time constraint of disclosure? To me, It seems like the government is aware of something on the horizon.
Love the channel, James! You do really great work. Some of your interviews are really quite good. Unfortunately, in this episode, there are a lot of parts where you say things like "_______ is so cool. Don't you think _______ is great?", to which Leslie replies with something akin to "Yeah, I agree that _______ is awesome.". This can come across like a fan talking *at* another fan instead of *to* them. This sometimes continues for extended periods and gets almost painful to witness around the 30 to 40 minute section. James, I realize interviewing Leslie may be challenging because she doesn't tend to go out of her way to carry the conversation and often doesn't volunteer information without being pressed harder. I've seen a few interviews with Leslie-whether it's an aspect of her personality that limits her output or if she's being intentionally cautious about what she says-she tends to have this "disengaged" air to her. When you encounter personalities like this, it may be wise to shift gears and ask more unique, "left field" style questions to better grab the guest's interest; to get them invested in having a more genuine, organic conversation. I suspect this could also be helped with a bit more creative lines of questioning, the lack of which seemed to lend to prolonged, repeated periods of awkwardness and a few dull, spiritless exchanges. Anyway, regardless, the effort is appreciated. Keep it up. 👍🏻
I appreciate the feedback. I had not even thought of that, so this is a very helpful insight. I did not even realize it! Sometimes, it takes someone from the outside looking in to offer this kind of advice. I will keep this in mind! Something to work on.
Yeah man. Of course. I went back and re-read my comment and in hindsight, I can see how you might take it as criticism of your interview style, which isn't what I meant to convey as a primary point. I was more trying to say that, in my opinion, Leslie seems to be a little hard to interview and that it may require you having a few "back up" questions handy in the future in case you encounter people who seem disengaged or uninterested (which is how Leslie often comes across to me during interviews). She wasn't like that for your whole interview, though, so maybe it was just a matter of getting her to come out of her shell a bit. Maybe she was a shy kid. 🤷🏻
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You've become a blockbuster interview factory
What’s up homeboy?
HAHA!! Appreciated. 😅
No comparison to the Almighty Disclosure Flute, though.
A bullshit pusher.
UFO JESUS! Woo-hoo! 💥
Thank you both - Leslie your rational approach is appreciated and I respect you for giving your time today.
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Thankyou James and thankyou Leslie. Greetings from Sydney Australia.
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Man, these interviews are the best. Thank you James and Leslie!
Really appreciate that!!
Much respect for Leslie, thank you for this interview.
Sure thing!!
thanks so much James and Leslie. Another great conversation from 2 people I admire . Leslie - please bring the play to Melbourne, Australia! :-))
Great Interview, with Leslie Kean. It does not get any better, than this. Thank You James Landoli.
Greatly appreciate that!!
I love Leslie! Her courage going after these topics is inspiring. She's one of the best and most important researchers and I'm personally grateful for her reigniting my interest in 2017.
Thank you
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What are great and wide-ranging discussion.
So good to see a Leslie Kean's interview! There are not many of them here on TH-cam.
Agreed!!
Thank you so so much Leslie. ❤
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What a nice surprise! Always enjoy your interviews.
@16:50, I support what Ms. Kean says here. I’m an experiencer, and I’ve been skeptically aware of each decades developments. 2017 was a vindication for me, but my wife, who grew up thinking anyone who believed in UFOs was crazy, REFUSES to look at it, doesn’t want to hear about it, and recoils with frustration when the topic comes up. She’s a medical professional with decades of experience, and for her, it collides with her understanding of the universe like a semi truck meeting a freight train. That ontological shock aspect of disclosure is very real.
Maybe as this develops and there is more official confirmation, that will change.
Fantastic interview and great channel, please keep up the good work James!
Greatly appreciate that! Will do my best!!
Excellent conversation & questions.
My intuition tells me that she actually also knows nearly all of the highly classified stuff as well !
Thank you!!
This lady has committed so much of her life to this stuff and stood out on a limb when others wouldn't. She's great.
I agree.
The French COMETA report was instrumental in getting Leslie on board on this subject, I recommend everyone reads their conclusions back from the late 90’s.
Yes! An important report!
James, you’re a gifted interviewer with a broad palette of knowledge of the Phenomena. Keep up the good work! 🤜🏻🤛🏻
Really appreciate that! 🙏
Thank you for this show!! It is spot on!
Sure thing!!
Thanks to the both of you.
Sure thing! Thank you!!
Thank you James!!! Keep up the good work.
Sure thing!! Will do. 😁
Most people do not want to talk about this subject. The majority of people that I talk to immediately check out mentally and emotionally and go somewhere else - they look away so to speak. It's like they've been conditioned over time to pass over the subject and ignore it completely. Their standard paradigm won't allow it to be a part of their reality. Too frightening.
Your comment sounds like it was written by me. I would say the same exact thing. I have heard it described as mass amnesia. And many experiencers report an odd loss of interest in the event, even among groups of witnesses. they may not talk about it again for years. But it also happens in the moments after not just years. So I think there's something to the amnesia aspect.
This is one of the reasons for the secrecy. The CIA and the Brookings report believes that many people with rigid worldviews would commit suicide in the event of catastrophic disclosure.
@@88Heckenlively I try to talk to my family about my sighting and the disclosure movement and I get laughed at. It’s disheartening but I know it’s very real and one day, maybe soon, the veil will drop.
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Just watched your clip with Jim Marrs about worldview paradigm. He was amazing - I read a few of his books and always appreciated his perspective. Their is a professor from Stanford University named Garry Nolan who is doing research into the UFO phenomenon that is mind-blowing on why some people see UFOs and some do not at the same time.
Looking forward to the series you're featuring in James ❤
Thanks! I will also be in another one coming out sooner.
What Leslie brings is a pragmatic and practical approach. Looking forward to watching the series that covers a number of different perspectives in research. It’s not just Govt/military it’s equally about Experiencer’s they need a voice too. For me conscientious includes NDE’e, Paranormal, UAP’s , Experiencer’s’ , Psychical abilities, OBE’s , life, metaphysics, physics, physicality, esotericism, mysticism all unknown potentials all connected. Someone once said we need to be considering “impossible thinking” beyond our humanness defined apertures of culture norms and beliefs.
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Reaching the broader audience is the big thing about Luis' book. If you are plugged into the UFO community, you've read or heard about most of the stuff in the book. Elizondo does a great job of building a case for greater transparency and disclosure, regarding UAP, particularly given his government and military background. The larger general public needs to get on board and begin pressuring Congress and the President to force the Pentagon, other government agencies and the involved private corporations to come clean about UAP.
Absolutely agreed!!
Oh, I agree.
Lue didn't write his book for those who are " initiated" into the enigma of the UFO/UAP phenomena, but to those unfamiliar with it. Most Americans are just so caught up in the day-to-day that we all have to deal with. Most don't have the time to do the "research ". I happen to be retired and have been interested since the 1960's, so I have time to delve into it.
This is a mature and grounded discussion. I enjoyed it very much and have subscribed for more. For some reason I've missed Leslie in person before this so I tuned in right away when I saw you were speaking with her. Thanks, James.
Appreciate that! 🙏
Brilliant guests as usual great discussion
Appreciated!!
I’m really confused. This has been going on for 75 years, probably longer. How much more gradual can it be? And if those supposedly in power can handle the truth of what they know, what right have they got to decide for the rest of us that we can’t?
Huge gratitude to you both. So generous!
Thank you!!
Really enjoyed this James! Glad she brought up that part in the book around 10:25 when Lue is sitting in his car. That's kind of how I reacted slowly learning about the phenomenon lol. Trying to grasp the magnitude of the information!
Also glad you brought up that point around 1:13:44 about potential agreements with non-human intelligence. Before Grusch, I feel like i was pretty read up on most of the information, but hearing that from Grusch threw me in for a loop. I still don't know what to think of it, but its mindblowing that aspect even came up with whoever Grusch might have talked to.
As always, thanks for your time man! ♥
Great discussion today James ! good one, thanks!
Thank you!!
Another good interview sir. Thank you for posting this! It's kind of crazy that there has been confirmation (although disputed) of bodies and craft being recovered. That used to be the stuff of X Files and none of it is a complete surprise. Truth is stranger than fiction!
Right!! We have come a long way in a few short years. Let's see what is next?!
this is a hard podcast to listen too but i respect your hustle and im actually inspired
Hey! Appreciate your honest feedback. What about it makes it difficult to listen to? Glad you are inspired! Thanks!
Yet another amazing conversation, James! I'm very excited to hear about Leslie's work on a play. I hope it gets produced. I can't wait!
Greatly appreciate that!!
My wife and I saw three grey metallic spheres flying low and fairly fast at about 300 ft elevation. They were the size of a small car. Flying from West to East over Lake Michigan while we we at the shore in Chicago.
Amazing sequence of interviews James. Thanks, as always for sharing these.
Appreciated!! More to come!
She is my hero. Her two books are simply mindblowing.
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@@eduardoentr1 ... Hey hands off... I saw her first lol...❤️
As a life long experiencer of the phenomenon with crafts/nhi/orbs/spirits we are treated like third class citizens for disclosure but disclosure will come from we the people.. thank you for a fantastic interview 🙏🏼
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Seriously. Don't look to the U.S. government for disclosure. I just don't see that in the cards. When disclosure happens, either the NIH will reveal themselves, or it will come as a societal evolution as more evidence and facts are whittled out, a little at a time...
WOW 🤯This was fantastic. I really hope she continues to push for all of this to be discussed on mainstream media.
Catastrophic disclosure please. Nothing can be more shocking than the barbarism that has been and is humanity.
That may be the way... Hope not! But, the unexpected can occur at literally any moment. In that sense, I think we should remain open to Catastrophic Disclosure as being a welcome possibility.
Righteous Disclosure by whistleblowers and scientists is the only way forward because the secret-keepers treat The People with utter contempt.
great interview james. you’ve become pretty comfortable asking the tough questions. :)
I’d love to see leslie do a book on the similarities between the different modalities.
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I had a green orb about the size of a golf ball fly into my house and across the room after a long meditation/astral projection session. It stopped in the upper doorway across the room and startled the heck out of me. I gasped! It seemed to be sensitive to my fear and it made a 90° turn and left down the hallway. Upset the wife and she made me promise I'd never do that type of meditation in the house again - she ain't having it!
I guess you can say, I was was immensely impresses by you and Leslie discussing UAPs, that I felt I could skip a day, taking one of my depression meds.
Thanks James
Sure thing!!
Thanks for your excellent interviews as always James.
Appreciated!! I try!
I wish the "honey, im home" orbs, or "hitchhiker orbs", would be discussed more in depth. This side of the Phenomenon is so interesting and baffeling. The color of orbs indicate a frequency and energy level. They seem to match the chakras and the color schemes associated with our personal and spiritual health.
Indeed. Thanks to Lue's book, it seems like it will be!
This conversation does a great job of highlighting Leslie Kean's breadth of knowledge on the topic of the phenomenon overall and her insight in contextualizing the various manifestations of the paranormal without defining it. Another example of an individual I am glad is "on the case".
FWIW, James, you asked a few other commenters what inconsistencies in Imminent they found concerning. For me, it's the Aguadilla incident being described as though it was captured from a helicopter when it seems to obviously be a C-130 fixed wing aircraft or similar and the confusion regarding white hot/black in describing the Nimitz incident. That said, I am still giving Lue the benefit of the doubt, but I would love to hear from him on that, even if it's just a correction.
Lesley seams to be an authority. She is down to earth, knowledgable, lntelligent and very trustworthy.
Just keepin people comin back bud👍
Great work Boss 👏✊
Appreciated!! Love having these discussions!
Another great show. It's always an absolute pleasure to hear from Leslie.
Appreciated!! Indeed it is!!
Thank you❤
Thanks!! 🙏
Great interview, thanks!
Thank you!!
Great conversation
We out here in the ufology world love you Leslie and James. Keep up the fine work both of you! So excited about your play Leslie- hope you find a fine producer to take this fascinating topic to the theatre and or tv and steaming world!
The world needs art to imitate reality in this area, so that it gets educated people at last talking about it openly -and with respect for the “believer”, -who should now be called simply “the informed”.
Asking me if I’m a believer is like asking “do you believe in electricity?”. I try not to look at them as if they are morons and it tests my responsible and respectful teaching skills!
These are the sort of people who we need to buy Lui’s book for. Possibly for Christmas after we have read it ourselves!
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It drives me bonkers when I hear o it could be too scary and we need protecting. God damn it I wanna know the truth no matter what it is. Who gets to decide what we can and cannot handle. I want to know what reality is not some BS fake reality someone else has decided to put us in.
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Someone please help me, address my obsessive- compulsive condition, I can't stop watching you and Leslie on this episode, over, over, over, over, over, over, and over again.
Leslie, thank you for everything that you have done for all of us. I experienced a large triangle about 300-400 feet over my car in down town phoenix in the early 90’s. It was silent and only moving around 35 miles per hour. It freaked me out so much. After I saw the look on my girlfriends face after I told her, I decided not to tell anyone else, ha. But during Covid because of your article with the New York Times I decided to study the UFO Topic for thousands of hours. I finally decided they are for real. I still have problems believing it because I was programmed for life, not to believe, Eek. I also think most of the world is ready to find out, plus believe it may hope this dangerous human race get a better grip on how to treat each other.
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Appreciate you sharing this story and insight! 🙏
Very interesting
Graci.
October 20th, 2024 is the launch date for Global Disclosure Day around the world. It will be the first international publicly declared day about the phenomenon like Earth Day is today for the environmental movement. Stay tune in at New Paradigm Institute for more information and be part of the Citizens for Disclosure movement.
It looks like there will be a lot of great participation. Looking forward to it. Right around the corner.
Thank you ETP
Sure thing!! Thank YOU for being here!
great job staying on top of this, we appreciate it
Thank you!!
Listened to Lou on recent C2C interview with George Knapp. Listened to Lou’s audiobook(Imminent). Listened to other people’s take on his book. Listened to his interviews TOE. I got this suspicion that no doubt what he is giving us is a Warning. Hence his book title. That, something is coming. And, whatever this something is will cause a no doubt situation(a catastrophic disclosure)where the United States will have no choice but to capitulate.
Time will tell..
Disclosure’s Godmother
Haha, indeed!
Phenomenal interview, thank you
Thank you!!,
JAMES=AWESOME ❤❤
Haha! Thanks!
Good interview. As always lots to think about. I do want to say after years as an experiencer I have interacted with thousands of orbs of different types. I have hundred of photos of blue orbs. I don’t understand people perpetuating the idea they are blue meanies? I never felt threatened or was harmed in anyway.
Hey! Same here. I've had many orb interactions, and none of them affected me negatively. The report they have documentation, and I don't doubt it. I know some of the researchers involved. It is a complex issue.
@@EngagingThePhenomenon right and I understand that, but it gets repeated over and over like it is the only truth about blue orbs. I do also understand they can affect people and animals. There was a Giant red orb that visited me and my dog for a few years in Texas. I am sure it was also a ship. When it was on or near the ground it seemed to be in a transdimensional space as it was less solid and somewhat transparent. But this orb could put my dog to sleep. I guess what I feel is needed is a balance to that narrative, so when I can I will make a counter statement regarding the blue orbs not ALL being dangerous.
This is a good interview.
Thank you!!
Nice watching now. Thanks James
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Seems the feds have loaded the comment section James! You must be doing something right and thankyou for this great interview with the inimitable LK.
Revealing specifics regarding companies involved in Legacy operations opens up the very real possibility of espionage, fraud, foreign threats, employee compromise, direct targeting, etc.
The government simply cannot open named companies to such a variety of internal and external dangers. No way. We, the public, have to understand that nature of secrecy and accept it for what it is.
There needs to be a compromise. Lue has said, "Truth and reconciliation." Some level of that may be what takes us forward.
Which Aerospace company do you work for? All "gifted" Alien tech are criminal, but some are undertaking Nazi level crimes.
During my experience, every clock in my house had a different time. I was perceiving different timelines through my TV. It all started by knowing I was a spark of the universe. I suddenly knew we have DNA from Earth and our cosmic cousins. Then I knew we stop the wheel of karma through forgiveness. The last sudden knowing is that we create our future with what we believe and we can shift timelines with our beliefs and knowledge.
It's hard to understand how dense the universe is, when we only have 5 senses.
Indeed!
"What fools these mortals be ", that they would think our governments would support the release of UAP and NHI information
Beware of assholes, who are disingenuous disinformation agents, employed by the Pentagon that would have you believe, there are no rabbits down a 🐰🐰 🐰 hole.
8:44 I did the same! The version I highlighted and annotated all through is on display at work, and my personalized autographed one is safe at home. :-)
Viewers of this channel will know I do not highlight or write in my books. Hahaha. Or bend pages! I highlight in my Kindle.
@@EngagingThePhenomenon and normally, I do not either, but it depends on the book itself. Hard to find books, hardbacks, or collector items I do not mark up at all. But easy to find paperbacks, yes. And the only reason why I did that to Elizondo's book it's because I had two of them.
Leslie has a very pleasant voice and classy speaking style. She also speaks with her hands like an Italian for emphasis, which is endearing. About the aliens, I personally think they are a danger to mankind, which in reading between the lines, Lue seems to believe as well.
Ross Coulthart said a non-human ship has been found, but its to large to move, so they built a building around it. I can't get this out of my head!
Does anybody have any ideas??
I've heard the claim. Not sure what to make of it!
There are many reports of UAP's as large and larger than the Nimitz Class aircraft carriers. So yeah, not a big stretch, at least... for me.
actually: YES. sort of ;-> he insists on it being outside USA, that is a bit confusing to me, but my explanation would be that the original statement was "on the territory of another NATION"... to get to the point, short and sharp: "Spaceport America". don't dismiss it beforehand, have a CLOSE look first, literally and figuratively, google and google earth. flimsy giant building in the middle of the nowhere right next (50 mls) to holloman/whitesands. I am absolutely convinced. or is it another one?
@@EngagingThePhenomenon it's not "outside of the USA" but "on the territory of another nation": spaceport america. you're welcome.
well done Sir.
Thank you!!
Great interview James . More answers will = more qustions and so on . Spiritual evolution . Seems very logical . In the end we will be at one with the truth of cosmic reality . That's what i think they are hiding , uap is just the beginning.
Indeed!!
The experiencer element is national security as well. NHI - human interaction, if actually acknowledged, would be incredibly natsec relevant. Cleared folks have to report to their security officers any unusual contacts, or contacts or relationships with non-citizens. You have NHI and NHI tech interacting with people on a massive scale. How is that not NatSec relevant? Of course it is. I think it's just a question of getting people to feel safe enough to talk about that. As you noted, Luis' book paves the way.
Could be. Unless it's an op being run by someone doing experiments on people...Then it'll be hidden until it can't be. There is a long history of governments doing experiments on an unsuspecting public.
Some are THEIRS, and some are OURS, Both are REAL.
So much to unpack, and so little time to do the unpacking.
For sure.
Diving in now 🍿
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Those who think we are alone, will be blown away, when they start to roam around their own homes.
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Luis Elizondo´s Book is great. It´s a Page Turner. Even, if you not a Newbe in the UFO-/UAP-/USO-/Abduction-/Alien-/ET-/Remote Viedwing-/Orbs-/Paranomal-/Hitchhiker-Effekt-Topic. To all the Debunker Comments like from Mick West the Serial Debunker or the "So called Sceptics" what are YOU doing here? If you are not interested in the Topic, get a Hobby. Crochet or Knitting, could be the right Hobby, for You. If you just try to Poo-Pooing the Topic or Luis Elizondo´s Book or what James Landoli and Leslie Kean are telling us or talking together about, then, get a hobby. Get lost.!
😂😂😂 - Amazing what people will do with their time rather than being constructive and getting things done...
@@EngagingThePhenomenon James, I have a question for you. We know that those who have experiences tend to continue to have them and one of the reasons you and others are involved in this subject (think Jay Christopher King) is because of your past experiences. What I am curious about is, have you (or anyone you know of) had any anomalous experiences since you started discussing this topic on social media? Has oipen discussion of the topic curtailed these events?
James I love the book. Great interview! W should catch up
Greatly appreciated! You know where to find me!
Most people who think orbs are dangerous are the people who dont do CE5. Consciousness is a mirror. Whatever you project from your consciousness you will get back.
Yes, I largely agree with this. There are always exceptions and nuance. But generally speaking, I agree.
I experienced an Orb many years ago in the GA woods and it looked identical to somebody holding a flashlight as far as shape and color goes but what I noticed immediately that really shook me was the fact there seemed to be NO light emitting from this ORB. It was moving in the darkness amongst the trees and nothing was illuminated.
Interesting. Uncertain if this is a natural phenomena or part of the whole UAP enigma. Many people who have experience with the " Hitchhiker Effect" report these glowing orbs as part of that phenomena. IDK.
What’s also important to note is that the Editor in Chief of the New York Times used to be an actress…she played the role of Annie Streiber in “Communion”. Let that sink in.
Did not know that!
I have this feeling that Rupert Sheldrake is peaking around the corner.
😊😊😊 - Excellent work.
I wish we knew what the name of that play was that she’s doing! Great interview thank you!
I'm very interested in this play. It sounds like she's going to succeed in getting it produced. Very much looking forward to it.
It's really a fantastic play! I am sure it will be announced at some point!
It's really a fantastic play! I am sure it will be announced at some point!
Mother Nature works in mysterious ways. She initiated what we are now experiencing with NHI, that people were always curious, that our government is now beginning to take it seriously.
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Is it possible there is a percentage increase of auto immune issues connected to some of this phenomena? I work in the health field and understand the US dietary problems. But, pretty much every person I know of that an experience with this has a current auto immune issue. A good example is Chris Bledsoe. His gut has been healed, thankfully.
But he still has arthritis caused by an auto immune issue. Just wondering. 🤔
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That’s a very good point and I’ve wondered something similar as to what you’re asking as well..
Not sure. Of course, it would need to be studied. I know plenty of experiencers without such a disease. But, there could still be some kind of connection.
Really enjoyed this interview. Possibly the next time you have Ms. Kean on, you can ask the following (simple)
question: what do you say to somebody like me who reads Luis Elizondo's incredible testimony ... but which is the polar opposite of what Dr. Kirkpatrick AND now Ted Phillips of AARO leadership have stated?? AARO almost seems daring Elizondo, Grusch, and others to show them the smoking gun, and not just be albeit sincere, but misinformed, story tellers of NHI . Would Kirkpatrick and Phillips
really risk their reputations if they really knew "The Program" exists?? Much of the "data" that was viewed by Kirkpatrick and Elizondo I assume would have been
the same.
Seems like either willful ignorance or deception on the behalf of Kirkpatrick.
Catastrophic disclosure will never happen, only a confirmation, that we were never alone.
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James, do you think Chris Bledsoe’s experiences are related to the hinted time constraint of disclosure? To me, It seems like the government is aware of something on the horizon.
Could be. I will also remind people that the channeler Bashar has been also talking about this timeline for many years.
The Chilean fighter pilot talked about orbs in the 'Citizen Hearing for UFO disclosure.
Yes! A lot of testimony from that event.
Love the channel, James! You do really great work. Some of your interviews are really quite good.
Unfortunately, in this episode, there are a lot of parts where you say things like "_______ is so cool. Don't you think _______ is great?", to which Leslie replies with something akin to "Yeah, I agree that _______ is awesome.". This can come across like a fan talking *at* another fan instead of *to* them. This sometimes continues for extended periods and gets almost painful to witness around the 30 to 40 minute section.
James, I realize interviewing Leslie may be challenging because she doesn't tend to go out of her way to carry the conversation and often doesn't volunteer information without being pressed harder. I've seen a few interviews with Leslie-whether it's an aspect of her personality that limits her output or if she's being intentionally cautious about what she says-she tends to have this "disengaged" air to her. When you encounter personalities like this, it may be wise to shift gears and ask more unique, "left field" style questions to better grab the guest's interest; to get them invested in having a more genuine, organic conversation. I suspect this could also be helped with a bit more creative lines of questioning, the lack of which seemed to lend to prolonged, repeated periods of awkwardness and a few dull, spiritless exchanges.
Anyway, regardless, the effort is appreciated. Keep it up. 👍🏻
I appreciate the feedback. I had not even thought of that, so this is a very helpful insight. I did not even realize it! Sometimes, it takes someone from the outside looking in to offer this kind of advice. I will keep this in mind! Something to work on.
Yeah man. Of course.
I went back and re-read my comment and in hindsight, I can see how you might take it as criticism of your interview style, which isn't what I meant to convey as a primary point. I was more trying to say that, in my opinion, Leslie seems to be a little hard to interview and that it may require you having a few "back up" questions handy in the future in case you encounter people who seem disengaged or uninterested (which is how Leslie often comes across to me during interviews).
She wasn't like that for your whole interview, though, so maybe it was just a matter of getting her to come out of her shell a bit. Maybe she was a shy kid. 🤷🏻
What is more frightening,,, the known or the unknown?. Are we now all actors in an episode of the twilight zone?
Seriously! Kind of feels like it!
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Science fiction can't beat reality....crazy
The changes will be socioeconomic, possibly intergalactic, but they never will be catastrophic.
Hope not!!
Those who think we are alone, are probably still using a rotary phone.
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Nhaaa...... I would say more in the line of two tin cans and a string!
Always great work, James!
Appreciated!!
Skeptics can be pessimistic, even when the evidence is breathtaking.