Get What You Pay For Van Builds - $80k vs $300k
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ต.ค. 2024
- I think it's important to know more about why vans cost what they do. Understanding the market is very important and this hopefully will help you make a good decision on what you need for your van build.
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Thanks for continuing to educate us Jarrod! For Dave and Matt, they actually get their vans direct from RAM and sell them as new vehicles like a dealer, that's how they can do financing. LV = Lifestyle Vehicle and LV3 is the 136, LV5 is the 159, and LV7 is the 159 extended. They state their goal is to make vanlife accessible to as many people as possible, so yeah, they probably operate on the absolute thinnest of margins. They don't technically offer custom work, but they're more than happy to consult with prospective buyers to discuss what they might be willing to create or alter to meet their needs.
Something's up with the Dave and Matt van Jarrod reviewed.
On the $319k build you said it only had 400ah battery, BUT you missed it was a 24v system, not 12v!
You’re right! I did miss that. Wish they listed that better but I’ll take blame for rushing through it. So I guess 800ah at 12v. I’d rather speak in watt hour 🤦🏻♂️ and I tried for a while on my channel but most didn’t understand
@@JarrodTocci Agree, Watts is a better apples-apples unit for comparison.
Wow!! @Jarrod Tocci. This is one of my all-time favorite youtube van videos. Make a series like this and I will watch them all. 😊
Still tiny wtf
I know the prices can go up easily, I built mine completely with mainly Renogy, battleborn, Wabasto(yep installed myself also), walnut butcher block counter tips, custom cabinets, isotherm refrigerator, full kitchen. Sink, all electric cooking(induction), small air compressor, 3000 watt inverter, 40 am dc to dc charger, swivel seats, custom raised fixed bed. My cost savings is 6 gallon water storage and gray water( on purpose though), full tongue and groove ceiling, 2 side windows, full 3m insulation, and I disagree about the wabasto style heaters not keeping it warm, I’ve stayed in Colorado and Idaho this past winter, no cold nights. I’ve got a total including the 2021 Ram ProMaster, for around 90k. I’ve had been in it for over a year, ZERO issues. But honestly if you added my labor costs(6 months working 2-3 days a week while working full time) it’s easily over 100k, his numbers are solid.
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HI JARROD: Can you just do a. future video breaking out: (1) Van life tech floor costs and options; (2). Cruise N Comfort Options (3). Lithium "mother ship". 800-2K heavy duty options ⁉ You know your stuff and would love to know costs and what you would do if you had the bucks and could splurge . THANKS !
Yes I can do something like that
@@JarrodTocci Lots of interest in that too ! 💪👍
The marine industry uses yellow wire for low volt 12v grounds. This is because the usual AC high voltage wiring uses black for hot. People have been injured and killed because they cut into a black AC wire, thinking it was only 12 volts. So, red and yellow means a pro did the DC.
You know if thats CNC machined then that's Precision cut I know some people want to say they like that handcrafted stuff which is nice but CNC Precision is always best and second my friend those machines are not cheap thanks for the video
Agreed. I'd take CNC cut precision over handcrafted any time. It yields higher and consistent quality at a lower cost.
Yeah, I didn't follow his point about CNC being cheaper or not as good. I will take CNC all day long
Be nice, mark is a super talented. Buying a cnc does not make you a great van builder. It save you a lot of time if you build the same van Multiple times
@@paullehto2294 Mark doesn't even work on the vans. hasn't for years now. Which is why he rightfully thanks his team every chance he gets.
@@paullehto2294 and or be a builder thats super talented with a cnc and still create 1 of a kinds
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Thank you Jarrod for saying 37k miles is like brand new. Lily has just under 36k, spread over 38 states since Oct. 2020 and lately ive been feeling she's "middle-aged".
Lily, a pro build, has a Rixen System, Cruise N Comfort AC, 360⁰ 8 channel MDVR security system, indoor & outdoor shower, all Victron electronics including a 3000 watt inverter charger, 380 watts solar and, 4 100 amp Battle Born batteries. I tell you this because I just paid $5,500 to double the size of the battery bank. Why? Because the AC needs more capacity and as a higher end build, she demanded more capacity.
PS: yeah that Dometic sink sucks in that van
I must of missed that 🤦🏻♂️ I was seriously rushing on this and I should not of reviewed a more used van than the others
@@JarrodTocci Wasn't the last one, as a 2020, more used? Could explain the huge price difference. Great video and well explained. Like the way you're extremely clear on where your opinions end and the empirical begins - you do a good job of that even though some people will still whine about it.
Cheers!....from North Vancouver.
The 181k van is amazing! 🤩
Great video Jarrod! Thanks for the information! I love that you call people out for overpricing their vans and explaining all of the pieces so well! I definitely learned a lot, Still loving the remote control van haha
Thank you 😊 you are always welcome at my shop when you want to build your new van, if you ever decide to do that of course.
Wow!! Jarrod Tocci This is one of my all time favorite van video on YT. Keep making them 😊
I enjoy the lower end builds because we all can't afford 200-300 thousand dollar builds
How many can afford $300,000? If I had that kind of money I'd go for a lightly used frieghtliner MASSIVE diesel rig that retails for $500k. Used, about $300-400k. Those are the best on the market.
LOL...No stealth camping in one of those.
Neither can I. I was trying to show what you get for that money. Kinda like they do on “Love it or List it” by showing them a house out of price range 🤷🏻♂️
@@scottslotterbeck3796 if i could afford $300k, id buy a house.
Me,too. It's ridiculous for most van lifers to spend that kind of money.
Sure would love the $300K van! Sure can't afford it! Great job on the video; I learned lot. Thanks!
This brotha, puts out value after value. MUCH APPRECIATED Jarrod.
Jarrod, have you considered creating a playlist specifically for the *get what you pay for* series?
From my experience, nobody is putting out this type of knowledge. I’ve followed quite a few channels in the past.
This however, is *extremely* enlightening for people like myself - not in the know regarding pricing. (I’m saving & prepping at the moment for van life)
Also, with playlist -> we can easily find missed episode and binge by letting playlist auto play.
Playlist is called "Tocci Talks" which goes into talks about things most don't talk about or things I'm comfortable going into detail
@@JarrodTocci wonderful. Thank you.
We would love to see you take 5 vans with the same price points but take them from the same state. Example pick 5 builders out of southern Cali. Reason being is because a builder based out of Georgia is charging less per labor he Vs some of the builders we know in the west coast are charging 225 plus a hr. That makes a huge difference as well
Excellent point! I totally agree...
That basic van would be fine by me. I don't need a lot of frills.
"Best on the market" is just puffery.
Would love to see you go through the Transit Trail pricing on their build website, thanks for the videos Jarrod
I’d rather drive one and break it down
Great idea. The Transit Trail will be a game changer IMO. Although has a lift, I don't think they beefed-up springs/shocks, so perhaps it still needs a Van Compass system?!
Happy New Year Jarrod. Great Job 👍
Way ta go Jarrod! Tell it the way it is Bud! Little harsh sometimes but well done! You've have been around long enough to know! Still building out my Tundra! Would love to see you in the spring when I'm done! One of kind buddy! can send you some pics if you send me a link.. just sayin be honored to have you tour my Rig.. take care keep up the good work and vids,, and your tiny home of course! Paul
Could you please talk about the resale value of high end vans? I see how you get what you pay for, but do you lose a lot of that investment on resale?
Check out EG-4 batteries, same high quality cells as lithionics with better bms at 1/3 the cost. EG-4 has a fire suppression system that’s important because lithium batteries fires are a differcult to put out. They also sell a 12 v minisplit that that is a seer 30 and also heats at 1/3 price of cruisean comfort
I agree on those 4 components making the van skyrocket but you are talking about at least a 20k difference between the sprinter and other 2 vans east. So that right there makes a huge price difference
The $319k van has a 24V system not 12V like the rest, so that 400 Amp battery is actually an 800 Amp. That's a spectacular vehicle!
Yeah I realized that after I posted. Someone corrected me and it's one of the nicest vans I've seen
Would like to see a review of an AWD Ford Transit.
So many have asked me of this. I’ll see if I can set something up with ford
Can't wait to hear your thoughts on VanCraft!
I toured their vans and shop! I like them as a business, but as far as building "you get what you pay for" as in there are better and there are some worse out there. Just something to keep in mind.
@@JarrodTocci Nice! Yeah totally, my budget is right around 120K and their vans fit that fold. Will you do a video on that tour?
But if you have the time and know how, you can build the same - if not better - for a fraction of the price 👌
I guess that’s the question. What is your time worth. I could estimate hours spent to build a 300k van. Wholesale parts are roughly 70-80k so retail maybe slightly higher. Factor in the mistakes made and redoing some things so add little more money there. What so many forget is I myself am a DIYer and I’d rather do it myself. I show this end of the spectrum for that reason
Somebody said the prices were as budgets with the truth is this is all hobbiest stuff for rich people or at least people with time and money. These things are toys I want one but it's a toy
Agree that once you get to a certain price point it becomes more of a toy. There are some that need to live out of a van or want to live less with more freedom
Thank you. I am planning to build in the next year. I was getting so confused I started looking at the winnebago etc.
Thanks for featuring us @Jarrod Tocci - G.H.O.S.T. We strive for top notch quality and its nice to hear your knowledge in the industry. We love your enthusiasm for all things vans! Maybe we can do a collab sometime on a future build! Were based in Colorado and do travel in vans when we can find the time.
Have always loved your work. I hope to be in CO for the Colorado Tiny Fest this summer. Maybe I’ll even come before that as who doesn’t love CO!! Also to be honest I didn’t know the company of that build until halfway through. It deserves the price tag for sure. I’ll send over an email and we can link up
This is insane! Van life seems to be just as expensive as a house mortgage these days! I'm a bit confused on how these vans are more expensive then a bunch of RVS out there with way more room/options.. etc.
This is obviously the higher end of vanlife. But it's nice to see how and why so that's why I made the video. Why more expensive than RV's? That's because RV's build cheap and have more of an assembly line when building. Vans done by high end builders are more custom. Most offer "A, B, C, D" floor plans but there's custom parts to every client build. The high end builders only do 20-30 van builds per year and it's not because they aren't working fast, but because it will take 3 months to build a van with a 2-4 people working on it daily.
@@JarrodTocci Thanks for this video Jarrod! My comment regarding campervans vs RVs is that you don't get what you pay for, for either. With that said, if you pay $180k for a high end Sprinter vs paying $120k for 27' Airstream, which one do you think will still be on the road in 20 or 30 years? In 20 years, your $180k investment will be gone because most likely, that van will have been run through its lifespan. On the other hand, that Airstream will still be camp ready as long as the owners have taken relatively good care of it. Full disclosure, I've come dangerously close to pulling the trigger on a van but I just can't justify paying that much for a vehicle that will most likely be dead in 20 - 30 years. I'm curious what your thoughts are on this.
@@iamkmann Why would the Airstream outlast the Sprinter?
What if the owner of the Sprinter takes just as good care of it as the owner of the Airstream; wouldn't both vehicles be worth something in 20 years?
Very curious, just asking. I ask a lot of questions before investing.
I have one question for you. I could build a van but I work 6 days a week. I love what you show, but is there someone you can set me up with to do a build around 100gs with a shower that has finacining
There are a few companies out there that offer that (I think), but I don't know any off the top of my head. I think that first company I showed offered finacining so you could hit them up
Those are some amazing "vans". I put vans in quotation marks because the term vanlife (referencing the roots of the term) is IMO barely applicable here. All of these build are more like luxury RVs.
That leads me into a question. I followed the channel on and off for some time and it has clearly moved towards high end builds. I kind of miss the core of what the vanlife hashtag/term used to mean. Hitting the road on a budget or lower cost. These builds are nothig a regular person really can afford. I get it, it's more money in covering this topic. Why is there nothing (or just very little) about stuff 'normal' people can afford? I guess it's a dead-end on youtube.
There’s a ton of info out there, even on my channel. What is “normal?” I’ve seen van builds for next to nothing in cost and they were great and I’ve seen others that are over $300k. It’s up to you on how you want to do it. There are plenty of TH-camrs out there showing that. Early on in my videos I built a van for $12k so I know those videos are there
@@JarrodTocci Sure, point was that you've moved away from the roots (like you said yourself).
Just wondering what this channel actually is now.
With 'normal' people I mean the vast majority that doesn't make solid 6 figure salaries. Even 80k is a massive amount of money.
@@Pler1978
Not offended in the least. Just wondering where this channel is going and what it is nowadays.
It's not #vanlife anymore really.
@@christianholmstedt8770 Nah I get what you mean. Like I’m new to watching these kinds of vids but I watch them out of interest knowing I’ll never be in a situation to spend 80k on a luxury van when I could be putting that to buying a house or something else. It’s just not meant for average folks to show genuine interest in it’s purely just entertainment
Great job. Great info.
Good Job Jarrod, Thanks!
Get what you pay for. BTW, I can do a decent job by myself. Even the electrical.
Fixed thanks
Great breakdown. Looking at some of the comments, yes you can find lower priced van builds that are used. These are not those.
Thinking this would make a great biweekly or monthly series 🤔 👍
Happy new year and big props on being able to take the time to make this while advancing so fast on your tiny home build.💪
The last one for 180k was my favorite but still feel it was a bit pricey but that is only in my mind.
The cold or sterilized look of the 280k reminds me of what one might expect to see in the parking lot of a ski lodge. Used more for show / impress the "snow bunnies" great build but came across for a certain demographic.
The 320k was extremely nice. Above the level of a Coachman Class B touring mass produced, but more adventurous. It came across luxurious but still very capable.
I wonder what the hourly labor rates between all the examples were.
Would a carpenter skilled primary on a c&c machine command a rate equal to, higher or lower than a skilled carpenter and wood cabinet builder?
Again very much enjoyed the video and the breakdown.
I am leaning toward getting a van and you explain it well
Hey, Jarrod, I love your vids, but don't $h*t on the promasters! lol I know Mercedes is known for being more costly than Dodge/Ram, but the difference in price is not as extreme as you say. The base price for the most expensive, newest, 2023 sprinter (3500 high roof ext) is just over 55k maybe 57k with a few of the most expensive factory upgrades. The newest promaster (3500 high roof ext) starts at over 50k with NO factory upgrades, and right now, even used 2022 promasters with around 10k miles, nationwide, does not cost less than 54k- 56K
Definitely not poo pooing all over promasters. I love them and it all comes down to the customer and what their wants and needs are. In this video I was only saying the higher end vans are typically built on a sprinter for many reasons. The sprinter you said I don’t think is the most expensive as they do supply and demand at dealerships so the 144 high roof is the most sold. Also depends on state or location. A California sprinter or Seattle one is much more expensive than one in Missouri. That’s just how it goes. Lastly if you’re “building a sprinter online” then I promise that’s not the price, sadly never is. 2wd sprinter is probably 10k more than a promaster, and they hold their value slightly better. All that said I’d totally build on a promaster as they are great too
Nice Jarrod very interest ing to learn about van builds .
How about doing a midrange build
Looking at doing a couple of these that are under 50k total just to show
Have you ever seen a steam punk style van? I’m an artist that wants to build out my Nissan NV2500 into a rolling art studio.
I haven’t but I know someone else that has talked to me about doing one. I’d LOVE to see one and tour it because that style is so cool. My tiny home build I’m doing now will have industrial vibes, so going towards steam punk but not all the way lol
nice review YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR
Would have loved to hear more about that last van build (#5). From your description it seemed like a stellar unit. $100k less than the unit behind door #3?
Great explanations. So, I'm thinking you might kinda like the VanLife Tech system a lil bit. 😂
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Hahahaha…I’ll be honest! For a while I was saying “damn that is overpriced” and then I started using some others on the market and that’s when I realized you get what you pay for…see what I did there 😏
IMO Far BETTER OFF buying your own van, and modifying it yourself ! a TOTAL. RIP-OFF when you buy from any of these pre-made...
This video is more so to help those that are either wanted to build themselves and see what things cost. But on the flip side will help those in the market. Just depends on your perspective when watching
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Rip Off? The time that it takes to build these vans is mind blowing and the materials add up quickly.
@@rjthomasindyusa IMO having a "matisse"inside of a van is not worth the money... I can afford ANYTHING... but to me it is a horrific waste of resources... Of course to each his own... You can do an alright job on your own and save a FORTUNE...
@@LJ-jq8og I’ve been working on my van during nights and weekends for two years. I’m a contractor working on mid- high end homes during the day and I spent 8 years when I was younger specing out/ building tour buses and location vehicles for the music, film and still photography industry. I have all the tools, know how and a shop..... and it’s still taking me forever.
If you can afford a Matisse you can afford a built van. lol
I wish you did consulting work on van purchases; I know you're busy with other pursuits but still, can't help but wish! LOL
I have consulting on my website so I’m not too sure what you mean. I definitely offer one hour consulting though 🤷🏻♂️
@@JarrodTocci awesome! Will check it out! TY for letting me know!
Anything with 37 ,000 miles on it is Very Used
Not New
These vans are Way over priced. Anyone can build these at a 3rd of the cost
. They must be smoking Crack in thier Van's to ask for number like that for Used vans
I must of missed it but did one of them have 37k miles?? I was pretty sure to only do “new” builds. To say anyone can build for third of cost, then go ahead. Or price it out and tell me I’m wrong. Or see how long it takes you to build and let me know what your time is worth
Hey thanks for all the helpful info. I’m looking into lizard skin and I can’t find any where that’s it’s toxic. Everything o have read says it’s water soluble and fine for the environment. PLEASE let me know if this is right as I don’t want to use toxic materials. Thanks heaps for all your info.
If it’s not toxic while applying then why do they wear suits and mask heavily. I bet after it cures it’s fine and the there are no voc or off gassing. I imagine like spray from insulation as you have to suit and mask up for using that too
Thanks appreciate the help. Love all the info you give thanks again. I might look into this more I think and why they wear suits and masks.
I've been in the room when people were mixing it and it has a very strong smell to it and can feel it when breathing. Granted that was back in 2018-19 so the product might of changed since then
Cruise an comfort is the best, why? What is it’s seer energy rating?it costing a lot does not make it better
Going into details like that it’s best to reach out to the company directly or even go to their website. I never said because it costs more makes it better. I will say I’ve used all 3 low voltage a/c units and by personal feel test and watching my energy I can safely say they are the best. I also know the owner and the owners of the other brands. When the owner spends every waking moment on his product then that speaks volumes to me as he cares. I also know the margins and there isn’t much. To sum up, personal test great, and a owner that care more on his customers comfort over paying himself is a win
How little you and anyone that thinks that know. I paid for Van Life Tech, paid for my toilet, paid for electrical parts (expect batteries). I was going to use a standard 120v mini spilt but after talking to many they said I'd be better off using the cruise n comfort. I offered to pay but with everything I do in the industry he offered it to me. I also NEVER shy away from telling people when I get free stuff, unlike MANY others. Lastly why does it matter if I get free product? If you put in the work I did, would you take it? There is NO ONE that would turn down free product. If you think I don't deserve anything free then that's your own opinion and I'm fine with your opinions. But to comment false statements like you're doing now is just wrong. Hopefully you're not too cold in the basement, stay warm.
I simply wanted to know if there is any information on how efficient cruise’s unit is. I called them and they did not know what the seer rating is. Seer rating is like gas mileage on car. The highest seer minisplit is seer 42( carrier). Most rv a/c units have seer around 12. I would not buy a car that’s 12mpg.
@@paullehto2294 another example of these "experts" Jarrod loves to shill for. An AC company not knowing how to calculate SEER rating is alarmingly dumb. Its just the max BTU output divided by the energy draw in watts. So their most popular unit is around 15 SEER rating. All of their units look to be between 12-15 SEER.
For that kind of money I'd want lithium iron batteries.
Your really the best at what you do and your super well informed but get off that cruise n comfort high horse your on. Its not the best and it’s extremely overpriced for the btu output you get. For your tiny home you can use a top of the line Fujitsu for half the price. Even if you get it for free I wouldn’t use it in that application. Talk to an expert in the residential AC business and see if he disagrees with me.
Thanks. I will agree with you on a standard mini split is possibility just as good energy wise. My cruise will pump out 19,000btu only using 19 amps. It’s also custom made and not an ugly unit hanging off my wall. Overpriced? Maybe little higher after factoring in some things you’ll need to do special for a mini split but for the low voltage and custom work I’ll pay it
@@JarrodTocci I can’t argue the voltage issue but it doesn’t come close technology or power wise. I absolutely hate when people say overpriced but it’s actually 3 times the price of a far superior unit. They advertise 11,000 btu on the website so I assume your getting something special. Let’s agree to disagree. I have the utmost respect for your opinions.
@@CJ30123 well to be fair we don’t know what the voltage is. That’s why you really need to talk watts.
LOL I have a video coming out tomorrow with someone else saying this math. You're just another troll. All you have to do is do your HOMEWORK and see that I'm right. Happy to prove you very wrong when it's fully installed. Tell you what, I'll screenshot this thread and save it to post later.
In fairness I am getting a more custom unit. He's only done one other type like mine. I'm setting up a flight out to his shop to show more about his units. The problem with that is it's not a "sexy" video therefore it's hard to put all the time and effort into a video that will get 1000 views. I love giving good info but might have to wait until I'm in AZ again
At 2:20 you said "you pay what you get for" but, we know what you meant.🤣🤣🤣🤣
Hahaha I speak good
I think he's underestimating those heaters. *shrugs*
LOL love the sarcasm
Ten gallons of water? That's a weekender.
Does Jarod the failed comidian have a deal with Mercedes??? He tends to be supper negitive on Dodge. Maybe because mrs. Allen told him too.
Failed? Up to debate, but just off this comment alone I’m tempted to go back into it just to prove one person wrong. And if you did any sort of research I built my first van in a promaster, plus my third van was a Ford Econoline. Lastly, only because I want to be a dbag right now, it’s not a dodge because technically it’s a Ram Promaster. Ram is now all the trucks and cargo vans and is still “owned” by Dodge, but then again Dodge is owned by Fiat. Thanks for your concerns The Daniel. Next
You pay what you get for??😄😄
You Pay What You Get For... LOOOOOOL
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The title of this video is borderline obsurd. Pretty ridiculous you think that 80k is a "budget" build. Plus you add the ol' "get what you paid for". Like you're cheap / poor otherwise. Darn thing better be bullet proof and top end performance from everything for that much.
The title is “you get what you pay for” I never said budget build anywhere. If you actually watched the video I explain the difference between an $80k van build and $300k van build. If you want to put in hammock or air mattress in a empty van then be my guest. I’m just not going to compare that to another one. Lastly if you watch any of my videos (sounds like you don’t) I did show a bullet proof build and it was over a million. That goes back to YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR 🤦🏻♂️
A new van is 40k to 75k. Just the material can be an easy 15k to 80k. Then you add labor.
Actually says "pay what you get for" first😃
Dudes full of shit! Get an old military vehicle. Or better yet I saw a bunch of bell Atlantic medium duty vans. Ugly as sin but tuff as nails take a torch to um!
Yeah buddy because these are toys they are luxuries live against these things is not economically sound and they definitely do not help the environment I want one but this is for a leisure class if you really want a nice 1
This last one has no inside shower 🚿🚿🚿🚿
Good eye! Not sure a shower is worth 100k 🤣
You don’t know anything about batteries lol
You're right I'm not an expert, I only listen to those that are and work in the industry. I don't listen to those that self proclaim themselves as battery experts. I actually fact check things. I won't name names, but there are a few on YT that claim to be battery experts and it frightens me. I'd rather not burn my van down
@@CJ30123 And what do you do? Sit behind your computer insulting people on things you don’t know anything about? I’ve been watching Jarrod’s videos for years and I completely disagree. Did you ever consider that whatever this instance is you are talking about he changed his mind or the company or product changed? Is he not allowed to adapt and grow his opinions as these companies do? How many of these companies are just reinventing themselves and putting a new name on the same product they sold until it was deemed not good…. If he never changed his mind that would be more concerning, he calls it is as it is and is in a position to know and talk to people who are experts on batteries. Attacking someone’s position or opinion is one thing but going after people’s character and their friends and insulting them is disgusting. It makes it evident that whatever problem you think you have with him & his channel is 100% YOU.
The only negative thing I said about Lithionics was the price which is funny because you gave me crap about liking 300k van builds. I actually don’t get paid by battery companies. I’m an affiliate for a couple, sure. None of them give me money tho. Lion batteries are still good, ReLion was ok until their new battery came out and are much better. Those two I’m an affiliate for but I don’t think I’ve got a payment from in a while because I actually talk people into what’s right for them. So I’m some cases battleborn is better for some, or Lithionics is the best and guess what they don’t even know me so they don’t pay me at all. Do you want me to keep going or should I keep proving your wrong. I can do this all day
Oh, and “parrot everything I hear” umm yes I do hahahaha…I wouldn’t of said parrot. But I do hang around the actual people that are experts in this industry therefore know what works and what doesn’t. So yes do I “share” what I’ve learned from others. DUH!!!! You really don’t make sense in any of your comments lol
@@JarrodTocci The van you literally just posted today has his inverter further away from the batteries than Victron even allows in their manual. You can keep calling all these people experts as if it justifies your own stupidity. But the people you listen to make mistakes too. But you take their words as gospel. ANYONE can build vans. Its not hard. As proven by yourself.