I think you did a great job. Much better presentation than what was started with. Phenomenal job fixing the white and stains. Only real issue was the spine split (bottom left). Which was a trade-off. Ultimately not noticeable for a "wall-copy". Still think it should have gone from the 3.5 to a 5.5 (or 6, on a really good day)
You are absolutely right about cleaning a book, just with the makeup pad the cover started to shine. The Absorene really takes the dirt out of the cover. I really don't have all the tools and ability to make the back cover whiter. But the eraser I used did work to remove more dirt. All and all your videos are very educational. I tried it on my Blackhawk #90 from 1954 the colors popped right away. Thank you!
Very interested to see the reults my man. Always nice to see your work. You have taught me a few things that I find VERY well used in press/cleaning. Thanks for all the handwork you do brother!
Great presentation. While the initial cost of setting up your own station can get a little expensive, I was wondering what the going rate to perform this service is for one book? I understand that the cost would vary based on amount of time/work that is needed. Could you please provide me with sample pricing for low/medium/extensive work? I thank you in advance.
Yeah it does vary quite a bit. I can only tell you what I charge for it and it starts at $65 for basic cover treatment and the most I've done for one book was close to $200 if that gives you a rough idea
Why does the paper look wet when your applying it? Right before your pressing your applying something that looks wet in nature you smooth it out then you press and the stains are coming off onto the paper. Really curious as to what your applying so i can do this myself
Also got a few brand new wolverine 1s if you like to grade a sell it. eBay about $15,000 for a 9.8 and these are definitely 9.8 or higher. Corners intact. No breaks. Staples in great shape. Kept in right humidity for years. Just like wine. Maybe a $15,000. Credit if you sell it or keep it. Sure the book will rise. Not common at all. No body knew who he was. Just like Teen mutant turtles. Look at them now. CGC finally recognized newsstand books and Canadian books which are ultra rare. Got 1 of 4 Acetate prints for Spider-Man 1. To print the book, now how cool is that? Again all in banks. I move around a lot because of my job.
Sorry to be so abrupt with questions, I am a 66 year old guy who sold his collection in the 1980's and due to a windfall $$ spent 45 grand from 2009 to 2013 on buying back my old 1962 and 1963 marvels from my youth. had them mostly graded with PGX so just recently found out what that means, and bought a press and am submitting them to cgc. but am nervous about my FF5 PGX 3.5 white pages. looking for someone to make it a 3.5 CGC which is sometimes easy sometimes hard. like my JIM 85's pgx 6.0 and 5.5 came back from cgc 4.0 and 4.5 rebsubmitted the 5.5 that went to 4.0 after pressing and light cleaning got a 5.0 so happy with my skill, but confused with was it just a bad grader day, or good grader day. anyhow love your stuff . thanks. any interest in pics of the 3.5? Brad
Sure shoot them over. I will say all grading is subjective. It’s not a guarantee the CGC 3.5 will grade 3.5 at CGC again so always proceed with caution when cross grading.
@@hobbyhero6973 are you good with spine roll, I would like to start with an ff 18 pgx 6.0 with a roll. can have it pronto if you are confident spine roll not always so easy, but good 6.0 spine to start with
Pressing question... I'm at a loss. I've humidified and pressed a WC Avengers a couple times and unable to get the ripples out. I used copy paper as a buffer after the initial humidification and they still won't come out. Help!
Thank you for posting this. I found it extremely helpful and the finished book truly was night and day from what it was. I have the seven book run of this original Ghost Rider series and I have also been trying my hand at dry cleaning a few of my books. So far of all the videos I've seen on cleaning books, your video was by far the best. Thanks also for all the links to the products you used as well. What I don't yet have is a press but I'm aware that a 15 X 15 is the best size to go with. I will absolutely give it a try. PS, if you happen to have a raw copy of ASM #50, please feel free to read my childhood letter to the editor! Left page, bottom left. Stan called me Joey. Best to all.
@@hobbyhero6973 I met John Romita Sr. at a comicon many years back. I found a nice copy of ASM 50 for $45 dollars (so, you know it was quite a while ago!). I asked him to sign it and he did so on the bottom of the splash page and in the margin by my letter.
I've now watched the video 3 times and I have a question about something I'd like to get "cleaned" or more specifically "lightened". It's actually an interior page. Tanned a bit and I bought a trashed, coverless book to get an ad inside to frame, but it needs to look better. Something you can help with?
What if, during the removal of the sheet after press, you also see color being slightly removed from the book? Too much peroxide? Paper too wet? What is the correct % mixture of distilled water and peroxide in the mister? 50/50?
I wish you would show the preparation for the paper you use putting over the book what do you soak it with how soaked is it.. what's the temperature of the press how long do you leave the heat on while the book is in there
It varies quite a bit from book to book based on age, condition and staining of the book. If you are looking to start doing it yourself I’d start with the book in the description. From there if there are specific questions on books you’re working on feel free to hit me up on FB or IG.
Love your videos and have always found cleaning old things up an making them look nice again very pleasing/gratifying. How did you learn what it is you do here? Honestly thinking of learning how to do it simply because it seems like I would it enjoy it. Kind of like building a model to some for me... would love some direction on how to start doing this past just watching your videos, which are great but if I'm going to do it I feel there is more details I should be aware of then what is covered on them.
Thanks! Watched a lot of TH-cam and have joined a few Facebook groups where they share tips. There is also a book that’s been published on the stain removal process. If you want you can shoot me a message on Instagram or Facebook and I can give you the link.
1 - Do you dilute the peroxide, or as is out of the bottle? 2 - How do you go about soaking the copy paper with peroxide, is it sprayed on or dipped in some sort of tray?
Think I answered this for you on another video but in case I didn't; the light box will just lighten stains where the overlay can actually pull stain from the paper fibers.
I was curious as to how long you are leaving the book in the press AFTER the hearing (i usually go ten minutes between 140-165 depending on the book). I'm finding that the book is remaining quite damp after an hour in the press cooling, do should you leave it for 8-12 hours for each of the four treatments? That would extend each book to a two day cleaning, but after the cover on an ASM 26 literally fell off for me at the staples, I'm very concerned about the book remaining damp at all Thanks.
@@hobbyhero6973 Beginning the peroxide on the RC interior page. I do the FC outside, then inside, then RC outside, then RC inside. When I opened the book to do the interior of the RC, the book was still damp, and as i opened it gently, the paper just melted around the staple. So I'm wondering if I just need to leave it in the press for many more hours to let it dry more completely after each step
There are a couple different papers used in the process but the one that has the hydrogen peroxide applied to it is copy paper. Should be links to the exact kind I use in description
Lately after almost every HOP i lose lots of colour, and also very sticky with top cover, Iam using a 50/50 3% peroxyd and distilled water.145 for 300 sec and then leaving in the press for like 2hrs after to cool it down. Am I doing something wrong?
@@hobbyhero6973 Thanks, that could be a thing. I was playing with the pressure knob a little because at first I didn‘t have that problem. I will try to loose it a bit to see the results..
@@hobbyhero6973 Thought that too but I have made one with no peroxyde and still stick a little. If I only be able to send u some pics u‘ll be hoorified by the ammount of colour that the wet sheet took it away!🤦♂️ I was about to prep some for CGC but i am worried now for a bad outcome😔
ok excited, seeing something new, you are making an overlay of a sheet of typing paper soaked in hydrogen peroxide solution, or reme paper, or what is the overlay?
I have a question, Hobby Hero. Does your cleaning and pressing process work on fingerprints? I got a 9.0 on a Wolverine 1 regular series. The graders notes said, light fingerprints on cover.
I’ve stopped using any surfactants as wiping the surface while wet always comes with some level of risk and is mostly not necessary with these processes. If there was an especially dirty cover I would probably just use distilled water or possibly a very diluted surfactant.
How much would it affect the grade if you did actually pull some color off with the artist eraser? I did some really light erasing on a yellow color Superman that had pencil on it. I stopped as soon as I noticed but I got the slightest bit of yellow coming off on the eraser, and the sheen is gone from that spot too. It’s only noticeable at certain angles but I always regretted doing it, just wondering how much damage I did lol
It took me several months of practice before moving up to pressing bigger books and over a year of regular practice before moving on to more advanced cleaning
So did I take it to the limit or go too far?
What grade did you get?
@@smashcraft1597 posted a results video with it and a few other books. Think it crossed over to CGC in the same grade if I remember correctly
No, I think you took it to its acceptable limit. Great work.
@@billyuscategui thank you! CGC agreed with a universal label as well
I think you did a great job.
Much better presentation than what was started with. Phenomenal job fixing the white and stains.
Only real issue was the spine split (bottom left). Which was a trade-off.
Ultimately not noticeable for a "wall-copy". Still think it should have gone from the 3.5 to a 5.5 (or 6, on a really good day)
You are absolutely right about cleaning a book, just with the makeup pad the cover started to shine. The Absorene really takes the dirt out of the cover. I really don't have all the tools and ability to make the back cover whiter. But the eraser I used did work to remove more dirt. All and all your videos are very educational. I tried it on my Blackhawk #90 from 1954 the colors popped right away. Thank you!
That’s awesome! A good dry cleaning can really do a lot for the appearances of old books especially
Well done! The hardest part is knowing when to quit and I think you were spot on.
Thanks, it is really hard for me to put a project book down but once you damage spine/staples the whole integrity of the book is at risk
What an amazing transformation!
Great video! Thank you.
Much appreciated and your very welcome
Damn….I think I had that spidey model kit advertised on the back cover.
Pretty cool looking kit!
Beautiful book, one of my future grails. I don't think I'd do anymore to it. Looks gorg.
Thank you! Should be back from CGC soon!
Love that book!! Great job on the cleaning and looking forward to seeing the new grade!!
Appreciate it and yeah love the old westerns and the fact that it kinda ties in to the super hero genre makes it a fun and unique book for the time
Very interested to see the reults my man. Always nice to see your work. You have taught me a few things that I find VERY well used in press/cleaning. Thanks for all the handwork you do brother!
Appreciate the kind words. I know it has completely changed how I evaluate lower grade books.
That looks amazing! Good job. Can’t wait to see what it comes back as if you send it.
Thanks! Will be going just a matter of when lol
Very nice work...
Thanks!
Great tutorial. Been slowly building my restoration skills and this was easy to follow
I’m a visual learner and the process is pretty intimidating in written form so if you’re anything like me the visual aides make it more digestible
Simply Incredible! Thanks for sharing your work.
Thank you and you are very welcome
Man, that looks awesome.. very very nice work!
Thanks. Definitely picked this one up due to the opportunity on it. Actually have another really good opportunity book coming up soon too
like two different books. very nice work!!
Thanks! Was a lot of opportunity with this book.
Wow, great job!
Thanks 🙏
Amazing results! Another awesome video!
Thanks! Book exceeded even my initial expectations
Awesome work
Much appreciated
Great presentation. While the initial cost of setting up your own station can get a little expensive, I was wondering what the going rate to perform this service is for one book? I understand that the cost would vary based on amount of time/work that is needed. Could you please provide me with sample pricing for low/medium/extensive work? I thank you in advance.
Yeah it does vary quite a bit. I can only tell you what I charge for it and it starts at $65 for basic cover treatment and the most I've done for one book was close to $200 if that gives you a rough idea
I may be interested in your services. What is your email address so I can send pictures.
Great results.
Thanks Jerry
Great Job.
Appreciate it!
Awesome results. Book looks great. Just subbed your channel.
Thanks so much!
Hi - like the videos! can you let me know where you instruct to make the hydrogen peroxide paper sheet?
I haven’t posted one yet but after summer break ends I will be posting more tutorials and content videos.
Why does the paper look wet when your applying it? Right before your pressing your applying something that looks wet in nature you smooth it out then you press and the stains are coming off onto the paper. Really curious as to what your applying so i can do this myself
Also got a few brand new wolverine 1s if you like to grade a sell it. eBay about $15,000 for a 9.8 and these are definitely 9.8 or higher. Corners intact. No breaks. Staples in great shape. Kept in right humidity for years. Just like wine. Maybe a $15,000. Credit if you sell it or keep it. Sure the book will rise. Not common at all. No body knew who he was. Just like Teen mutant turtles. Look at them now. CGC finally recognized newsstand books and Canadian books which are ultra rare. Got 1 of 4 Acetate prints for Spider-Man 1. To print the book, now how cool is that? Again all in banks. I move around a lot because of my job.
Good job.
Thanks!
Amazing the difference between the before and after. What strength of hydrogen peroxide are you using.
Would like to see the new grade that it gets
Thanks! I use 3% hydrogen peroxide.
Sorry to be so abrupt with questions, I am a 66 year old guy who sold his collection in the 1980's and due to a windfall $$ spent 45 grand from 2009 to 2013 on buying back my old 1962 and 1963 marvels from my youth. had them mostly graded with PGX so just recently found out what that means, and bought a press and am submitting them to cgc. but am nervous about my FF5 PGX 3.5 white pages. looking for someone to make it a 3.5 CGC which is sometimes easy sometimes hard. like my JIM 85's pgx 6.0 and 5.5 came back from cgc 4.0 and 4.5 rebsubmitted the 5.5 that went to 4.0 after pressing and light cleaning got a 5.0 so happy with my skill, but confused with was it just a bad grader day, or good grader day. anyhow love your stuff . thanks. any interest in pics of the 3.5? Brad
Sure shoot them over. I will say all grading is subjective. It’s not a guarantee the CGC 3.5 will grade 3.5 at CGC again so always proceed with caution when cross grading.
@@hobbyhero6973 are you good with spine roll, I would like to start with an ff 18 pgx 6.0 with a roll. can have it pronto if you are confident spine roll not always so easy, but good 6.0 spine to start with
@@decojoker1 spine rolls are one of the easier things to address as long as staples are not already precarious
Pressing question... I'm at a loss. I've humidified and pressed a WC Avengers a couple times and unable to get the ripples out. I used copy paper as a buffer after the initial humidification and they still won't come out. Help!
Can you send me pics on IG or FB?
@@hobbyhero6973 I currently have it in the press and will send you pics in the morning if they don't come out after this one. 👍
Thank you for posting this. I found it extremely helpful and the finished book truly was night and day from what it was. I have the seven book run of this original Ghost Rider series and I have also been trying my hand at dry cleaning a few of my books. So far of all the videos I've seen on cleaning books, your video was by far the best. Thanks also for all the links to the products you used as well. What I don't yet have is a press but I'm aware that a 15 X 15 is the best size to go with. I will absolutely give it a try. PS, if you happen to have a raw copy of ASM #50, please feel free to read my childhood letter to the editor! Left page, bottom left. Stan called me Joey. Best to all.
You are very welcome. What an iconic book to have your letter in too!
@@hobbyhero6973 I met John Romita Sr. at a comicon many years back. I found a nice copy of ASM 50 for $45 dollars (so, you know it was quite a while ago!). I asked him to sign it and he did so on the bottom of the splash page and in the margin by my letter.
@@Joeh1154 that is awesome. Truly a forever PC book there!
Hello Mr. Hero, what do you mist your comics with when they are on the Blue Led? What is the chemical make up. Thank you for all your help.
3% H2O2
I've now watched the video 3 times and I have a question about something I'd like to get "cleaned" or more specifically "lightened". It's actually an interior page. Tanned a bit and I bought a trashed, coverless book to get an ad inside to frame, but it needs to look better. Something you can help with?
Thanks for checking it out! That absolutely is something that could be addressed as well. Hit me up on IG or Messenger and I can take a look at it.
What if, during the removal of the sheet after press, you also see color being slightly removed from the book? Too much peroxide? Paper too wet? What is the correct % mixture of distilled water and peroxide in the mister? 50/50?
It is pretty common with reds to have some lift but if you’re seeing other colors come up it could be too much pressure or too much heat
@@hobbyhero6973 Thanks for the quick response! Taking a vacation? Would love to see you work on UF4 polybag and how to get that 9.8. Thanks again!!
@@chrisojeda7377 just working on too many projects right now. One big one in particular that’s been eating up my time here lately
I wish you would show the preparation for the paper you use putting over the book what do you soak it with how soaked is it.. what's the temperature of the press how long do you leave the heat on while the book is in there
It varies quite a bit from book to book based on age, condition and staining of the book. If you are looking to start doing it yourself I’d start with the book in the description. From there if there are specific questions on books you’re working on feel free to hit me up on FB or IG.
Love your videos and have always found cleaning old things up an making them look nice again very pleasing/gratifying. How did you learn what it is you do here? Honestly thinking of learning how to do it simply because it seems like I would it enjoy it. Kind of like building a model to some for me... would love some direction on how to start doing this past just watching your videos, which are great but if I'm going to do it I feel there is more details I should be aware of then what is covered on them.
Thanks! Watched a lot of TH-cam and have joined a few Facebook groups where they share tips. There is also a book that’s been published on the stain removal process. If you want you can shoot me a message on Instagram or Facebook and I can give you the link.
Great job - like you said night and day :)
Thanks! I knew it was a risk on this book with the wear on it but I think it really paid off.
1 - Do you dilute the peroxide, or as is out of the bottle? 2 - How do you go about soaking the copy paper with peroxide, is it sprayed on or dipped in some sort of tray?
I don’t dilute the peroxide and the solution is sprayed onto the paper on both sides
What's the difference between the stain removal phases with the pressing machine and the light box?
What can be achieved with each one separately?
Think I answered this for you on another video but in case I didn't; the light box will just lighten stains where the overlay can actually pull stain from the paper fibers.
@@hobbyhero6973 Yes you did answered that before. Sometimes I don't keep track of all I ask as I go watching videos.
I was curious as to how long you are leaving the book in the press AFTER the hearing (i usually go ten minutes between 140-165 depending on the book). I'm finding that the book is remaining quite damp after an hour in the press cooling, do should you leave it for 8-12 hours for each of the four treatments? That would extend each book to a two day cleaning, but after the cover on an ASM 26 literally fell off for me at the staples, I'm very concerned about the book remaining damp at all
Thanks.
After which step?
@@hobbyhero6973 Beginning the peroxide on the RC interior page. I do the FC outside, then inside, then RC outside, then RC inside. When I opened the book to do the interior of the RC, the book was still damp, and as i opened it gently, the paper just melted around the staple. So I'm wondering if I just need to leave it in the press for many more hours to let it dry more completely after each step
@@shanehasty1748 I think you may need to reduce the amount of peroxide you’re using in general
Nice job, what kind of paper did you use for the peroxide treatment
There are a couple different papers used in the process but the one that has the hydrogen peroxide applied to it is copy paper. Should be links to the exact kind I use in description
Lately after almost every HOP i lose lots of colour, and also very sticky with top cover, Iam using a 50/50 3% peroxyd and distilled water.145 for 300 sec and then leaving in the press for like 2hrs after to cool it down.
Am I doing something wrong?
Pressure may be too high. Also try taking it out after 1 hour of rest.
@@hobbyhero6973 Thanks, that could be a thing. I was playing with the pressure knob a little because at first I didn‘t have that problem.
I will try to loose it a bit to see the results..
@@gabesaquatics8495 could also be that the overlay is too wet but that would be the last thing I’d test
@@hobbyhero6973 Thought that too but I have made one with no peroxyde and still stick a little.
If I only be able to send u some pics u‘ll be hoorified by the ammount of colour that the wet sheet took it away!🤦♂️ I was about to prep some for CGC but i am worried now for a bad outcome😔
@@hobbyhero6973 fast fwd few days and I have to say its working much better now! Experience gained by day🙂
Thanks alot👏🤝
ok excited, seeing something new, you are making an overlay of a sheet of typing paper soaked in hydrogen peroxide solution, or reme paper, or what is the overlay?
Overlay is copy paper sprayed with hydrogen peroxide
@@hobbyhero6973 have you tried different ratios of distilled to straight peroxide.?
@@decojoker1 I haven’t. I’ve messed with water and rubbing alcohol with mixed results. This seems to work well and is convenient as it comes pre mixed
Have you ever remove a cover to work on a book? It seems easier to work with a cover when I remove the interior.
I have but I try to avoid when possible. Messing with staples just opens up for more to go sideways on me.
Awesome job! Congratulations! What paper weight are you using?
Thanks and for which part? I use copy, 65lb and 100lb at different parts of the process.
what exactly is that paper you are using? and how much heat and how long?
Varies quite a bit depending on the step in the process. I use different stocks of paper for different processes as well as times and temps
I have a question, Hobby Hero. Does your cleaning and pressing process work on fingerprints? I got a 9.0 on a Wolverine 1 regular series. The graders notes said, light fingerprints on cover.
Depends. If it is in the ink can’t do much. If it’s in the surface then yes
What did it re-grade to? I’m new to the post
It kept the same grade but with CGC blue label which I don't think it would have gotten in it's original condition.
Do you clean and press for others? I’m looking to change. If not, who do you recommend?
I do. In the process of launching a web page. In the mean time feel free to reach out to me via IG or FB
Awesome. Did you dilute the hp with water or use it straight?
It’s a 3% solution and I did not dilute it
Am I the only one amused/worried by the fact that he used N64 cartridges to hold open the lid for the light bleaching?
Not sure but not the only one to notice 😆
Wow
What kind of lights are those? 15:28
Link should be in the description for blue LED lights
Wow...that was amazing...just amazing results!
#TheHobbyist
Thanks! Some more to come!
How do you find simple Immacuclean followed with 3% hop vs this method? I have found wiping with both works well and seems low risk
I’ve stopped using any surfactants as wiping the surface while wet always comes with some level of risk and is mostly not necessary with these processes. If there was an especially dirty cover I would probably just use distilled water or possibly a very diluted surfactant.
Hey. Do you charge for your services I have a ton of #1's. That need some help
Hit me up on Instagram or FB messenger so I can see what you have!
How much would it affect the grade if you did actually pull some color off with the artist eraser? I did some really light erasing on a yellow color Superman that had pencil on it. I stopped as soon as I noticed but I got the slightest bit of yellow coming off on the eraser, and the sheen is gone from that spot too. It’s only noticeable at certain angles but I always regretted doing it, just wondering how much damage I did lol
Really just depends on the overall grade. On a mid grade or lower probably wouldn't effect the overall grade at all
Ah ok good, that’s kinda what I thought too. It’s solid for a golden age book but no more than a 3.5. Thanks for the reply!
@@TobeyEatsHotDog no problem!
When you apply the hydrogen peroxide, how long do you press it for?
It varies based on age of book and level of stain. If you have specific questions feel free to hit me up on IG or FB
Do you have a link or name to the sheets that you used to clean the front and inside covers? Thank you
Just regular copy paper saturated with hydrogen peroxide
@@hobbyhero6973 Thank you, i have only ever seen people use makeup remover pads to apply hydrogen peroxide to clean. Your method seems much easier.
@@200percenthealth lot less risk if done properly as well
for how long you live it inside the box of light?
It varies depending on what I’m treating
I think you need a different software that corrects the aspect ratio of your video
I did change it and I think newer videos are better. At least I think they are 😅
Interesting video! Thanks for the detailed look at your processes. So with the light box you only treated the exteriors of the front and back covers?
Thanks and yes; for this book only cover was treated.
What temp do you usually press these books at and for how long?
It varies quite a bit depending on age of book and what stage of the process I’m in.
What kind of temperature are you using for the stain removal pressing?
Thank you. Love the content.
No problem and thanks!
I just did this and got a b-1 purple… so all proceed with caution
Yeah, they can determine that the cleaning was to an extent they deem it restoration. I have a whole video on why I think it's a silly approach.
I'm just not brave enough to crack and clean my old books
It took me several months of practice before moving up to pressing bigger books and over a year of regular practice before moving on to more advanced cleaning
Oh forgot they gave it a 9.4.......I think it should be a 9.8 or 9.9
Huh?