I think we share a brain. But seriously, the glitches in the Spicy mv are to me a conformation that we are still in Kwangya, like idk about you, but my country doesn't glitch irl. Another great video
My alternate theory was that in Spicy what we were seeing was Kwanga bleeding into the real world, and that the Aespa girl’s we were seeing were actually their AE’s. So maybe the data transfer could have acted like an umbilical cord or sorts. There are some details in the video that make it seem like they are sort of learning how to act like the real Aespa, but it’s not quite right. They act like ‘k-pop stars’, but not like the Aespa we know. So, kind of more an invasion. But your theory also has legs! Ah, really hope the new SMCUs come out soon!
To me, there was never any question that they're still in Kwangya based on the background glitching in the "Spicy" video. I really hope they come back to that storyline eventually.
I hope you're right because I love aespa's concept change but want desperately for it to actually be connected to Kwangya without us realizing it. This actually makes a lot of sense as well. Thank you for always putting out such great content :)
Gosh I hope you're right. It would be a pity if all the lore of aespa had been drop because of Lee Soo-man's exit from SM. As someone who was there from the beginning the "ending" of defeating the black mamba felt so anticlimactic that I hope your theory is right.
I don't think they're planning to drop their concept anytime soon. Spicy was their pre debut song, so it was planned to be theirs even before stuff in company happened. They released ae-members video for Better things and ae-members are always shown at concerts.
Can't wait to see how "Armageddon" (their next comeback, also their 1st full album) fits into all of this. Because with a title like that, you KNOW something is going down.
i think you've put some of my thoughts/headcanons into words with this one! it's hard to have hopes on sm creativity-wise these days since frankly i have no idea what they're doing with their artists rn, but i've had similar headcanons about what's going on at the moment, though not as detailed as your explanation here. i hope we're all going to the right direction, because this is such a cool concept. also, we need another cawman video 😔
Yeah definitely! I’m sure aespa’s story will change without LSM at the reigns anymore, but hopefully there’s still an effort to continue the story in some way 😭
Nothing better than a Jimi video trying to figure out the Aespa lore the same way people tried to figure the Loonaverse. My only connection i have is that in Drama in an AU, Black Mamba infected the avatars and now in the real world, the AI is trying to off the members. Hint: Salty & Sweet. I don't have proof but neither doubts
i never got the kwanga lore i gave up in between but i really enjoyed listening to this theory and i understood pretty well lmao which is surprising for me 💀💗 says a exol lmao but i hope this lore keeps going on and doesn’t end tbh
BoA at the end of thethird episode shows that Black mamba or at least her creator/main villain are far away from done and there was even shot of BoA during Black mamba MV. Now, the storyline will be probably adjusted/changed without Lee Soman's inputs and with the fact that BoA right now isn't feeling well and planning to retire next year, so I'm expecting at least one more real world concept before the next form of villan shows up and if/when Naevis regains her powers. (But hot take, i definitely think she's related to evil in Kwagnya more than it seems).
Yeah definitely! I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s changed a lot. I think BoA has earned a well-deserved break from SM, but I’m also interested to know what her involvement in the story would’ve been 😭
I don’t think we’re ever getting a full kwangya concept or villain concept again, since the members are obviously over it. Ningning thinks it’s childish and all members said they want to make more easy listening music! And let’s face it, their 2023 music was way more well received than their previous style
@@viktoria5725Ning Ning didn't say it's childish, she just said that she finds "be my ae" greeting awkward. And they had easy listening music while having their concept? Yeppi Yeppi, Lucid dream, ICU and such songs were happening in their earlier works and their kick off started with Next level which is really in the concept with everything. Even their most recent works have hints at their original concept in first place.
@@AB-yk2pqi wasnt talking abt the be my ae thing, a couple months ago ning said it in an interview i think! I don’t think she‘s the only aespa member who thinks that way! They all loved spicy and drama and seemed way more excited in 2023 abt their music than they ever did before (:
@@viktoria5725Well Spicy was supposed to be a part of their storyline and discography even before they debuted and they all said they said how they were really happy to sing that song finally and for Drama, they all made it clear they loved how choreography and performance turned out, but they had similar reactions to majority of their songs minus Forever and Girls.
You're take about drama and spicy being homages to film genres turn into simulations or illusions its kinda the same lore I thought. That would explain salty and sweet being "kwangya-coded" even though they're supposed to be in the real world. Maybe they are poisoned so they don't realise it is all an illusion and that's why they don't notice thw glitchs in spicy and then they get fully into drama's concept, but still glitching like when they are in the roof and they change positions
I just always assumed the events of the Drama MV took place before welcome My world and spicy and sometime after Girls but not still in that mini album time line if not then like no longer than 5 seconds after that mini. Maybe drama could even take place before girls cause we didn’t get an SM culture universe episode for the girls comeback when it came out. I’m not too attached to the Aespa lore or Aespa in general but I had just assumed that My world and Spicy released after girls so that they had a sound and concept that SM could debut navies into eventually and or have a direction for the girls to mature into similar to how twice set up fancy and feel special to mature there concept later on and how NCT dream used Hello future to also mature there concept.
I swear you're literally carrying k-tube on your back so hard I never thought about spicy and my world this way but it makes so much sense I think everyone who hates spicy and says they're upset because aespa is "following trends and losing it's originality" needs to watch this ! It'll clear so many things up
I think aespa’s lore right now is returning to the real world and dealing with the leftover evil from black mamba’s reign. Aes are known to be digital versions of oneself and in drama aespa seems to be fighting themselves. Meaning black mambas corruption has extended onto the aes and there’s no rule there can be one ae because our digital selves change all the time with trends coming and going.
U know how drama has this laws that say never look back thats the only rule that naevis told them never look back blackmamba ning looks back Karina tooo savage winter looks back Giselle tooo 😮😮
You set the bars very high for your videos. I came expecting that this video will be great, but it's definitely more than that. I was thinking about the concept change and the lore connection, but my only real points were that something's up, Naevis is pretty sus and there's definitely a new villain coming, way more important or significant than Black Mamba, I need a mew SMCU episode so badly 😍.
To me the conformation that they still trapped in kwagya are the Salty and sweet mv and i'm unhappy mv, you can see they choose stay inside the adventure and being hacked.
I'll just try to address the question why too much data was a problem and appeared to defeat Black Mamba. If it is an AI system then it runs on a machine with physical elements for storage and processing which inherently means there are limitations. Giselle asked Ningning to upload an exabyte of data hoping to cause buffer overflow, which can and did crash the system. A real world example of this is that commercial websites have crashed and gone down when there was too much traffic overloading its capacity to service requests.
I agree. It makes sense. I thought the glitches in the real world happened because Kwangyan was getting fused with the real world, but it all being a Kwangyan generated world also makes sense. I honestly feel sad that a lot of ppl think Spicy and Drama were complete departures from the core concept and lore, but like, they're clearly not.
cool theory! i see it more as they defeated black mamba, and went back to the real world. but they were changed from their time in kwanga. so in SPICY/MY WORLD, we see them trying to be normal girls again, but they're so shiny and fake now after their time in AI. and maybe brought some of the flat back with them. and then in DRAMA, they go back to fighting evil but now in the real world. but now i'm rethinking that
I literally did a blogpost about this at the beginning/end of year after that video about the SMCU being so called DEAD but really DRAMA is just a continuation of lore. Also a lot fans don't watch the SM artist videos i.e. Key, NCT, Red Velvet still have major ties like the car crashes in Killer and Drama, NCT Wish WISH and Supernova falling into cars. I literally had to make a playlist because it just kept continuing even Ningning Cheese shoes and Suho has a song named Cheese featuring RV's Wendy.
You’re right. NCT still live in that fantasy world. But since aespa is themed in duality then this means a version of aespa has escaped from the fantasy world and are now here in the real world. Maybe NTC can escape Kwangya and save aespa from the clutches of how dark the real world influences can be. Or…. The two(aespa and NTC127)have the most epic dance battle in the middle of Korea, busker style. Too much? I’ll put down the kimchi.
I know i'm pretty late, but I always though black mamba took over Aespa. They seemed to be different ever since Girls and Illusion. Like with how the aesthetic changed.
LOVEEEE THIS THEORY. I wanna share my theory too tho to see I have a similar theory but instead of them still being inside kwangya what if the worlds are crashing into each other. Let me explain From the better things show and better things mv we meet this Alexa type box (I forgot the name so imma call her AElexa). AElexa reveal she can grant wishes (even though she can be mischievous with how to wishes come out to be). I’m thinking either one of the aespa members, navis, or someone else may have made a wish which caused an overlap in multiple universes. I have a feeling I’m right cus in the mini show aespa did after drama we see this box twice. First ep when they playing hide and seek and it’s revealed that the aespa members are actually ghost in their moms house and in the second ep when they suspect one of the Aespa members are not human. Both is the same house but different furniture. Even in bookish theories video for drama she thinks the aespa members have multiple versions of themselves. One version that’s trying to hurt each other and the other side trying to save everyone. I believe this also helps my theory too. So the question is who made the wish? My theory is it’s winter. In better things she was the one who had the dream. In Welcome to my world she also said “Here’s the invitation, come to me” which could also be the fact she made the wish to bring naevis back to her but the plan got messed up. Could also be naevis herself but let’s see.
Tbh love your videos and this idea … but due to the coporate changes that went on in the higher ups I truly just think kwangya is dead… 😭 would love for you to be right tho
this theory then tracks for SUPERNOVA, a classic superhero motif that would make sense in the kwanya simulation of the real world. but how do we fit in armageddon? the lyrics seem to reference the lore & the mv is full of imagery from the early SM episodes. Perhaps the real world and the virtual world have collided/the leak became a flood, merging aespa and their aes in the real world? "Now define it / My personal definition of complete / I shall lead every part of me / Do it all myself / At last complete myself" sidenote: there are 3 KOSMOZENS, gigantic celestial beings.................... and in the armageddon video it kind of seems like karina, winter and ningning are turning into/evolving into gigantic celestial beings..................................................... but not giselle, but why leave her out? perhaps the kosmozens theory is totally batshit but still oddly giselle seems to be the only one not turning into/merging into a Higher Form... and maybe it's all still in the kwangya but the entire concept seems like the real world is getting totally effed up by the virtual world now .... SM WE NEED MORE EPISODES
We really do need more episodes 😭 with the three kosmozens idea in mind, perhaps the simulation theory is just from Giselle’s perspective? - My wild guess at this point in time is that Giselle may be the only one trapped in Kwangya and experiencing the simulation of the real world. The other members of aespa that we see are not real, or perhaps are kosmozens pretending to be humans. Giselle is slowly starting to realize nothing is real, yet doesn’t know how to escape?
Im a my but im having trouble actually getting into the lore. Can you plz make a video explaining the lore in a semi-detailed summary or can anyone tell me where i can go to check it out? Very interesting video btw!
Just watch all 3 episodes in order now, videos I watched explaining it don't really do it much justice, mostly because they're outdated. Once you watch episodes, a lot of their lyrics will start to make more sense.
I think aespa’s lore right now is returning to the real world and dealing with the leftover evil from black mamba’s reign. Aes are known to be digital versions of oneself and in drama aespa seems to be fighting themselves. Meaning black mambas corruption has extended onto the aes and there’s no rule there can be one ae because our digital selves change all the time with trends coming and going.
I think we share a brain. But seriously, the glitches in the Spicy mv are to me a conformation that we are still in Kwangya, like idk about you, but my country doesn't glitch irl. Another great video
Us Kwangya truthers will win in the end 🙏
didn't they say the "real world" aespa is in is quite advanced?
Neither does my country glitch 🧍🏻♀️
it just mean that naevis and the girls arriving to Earth is causing weird events. Not that they live in Kwangya
My alternate theory was that in Spicy what we were seeing was Kwanga bleeding into the real world, and that the Aespa girl’s we were seeing were actually their AE’s. So maybe the data transfer could have acted like an umbilical cord or sorts. There are some details in the video that make it seem like they are sort of learning how to act like the real Aespa, but it’s not quite right. They act like ‘k-pop stars’, but not like the Aespa we know.
So, kind of more an invasion.
But your theory also has legs! Ah, really hope the new SMCUs come out soon!
To me, there was never any question that they're still in Kwangya based on the background glitching in the "Spicy" video. I really hope they come back to that storyline eventually.
I hope you're right because I love aespa's concept change but want desperately for it to actually be connected to Kwangya without us realizing it. This actually makes a lot of sense as well. Thank you for always putting out such great content :)
Thank you as well for the same!! Also I like your new profile picture 😁
@@choujimi ty!
Ouuuu yess let’s get into some Kpop lore theorizing!
Gosh I hope you're right.
It would be a pity if all the lore of aespa had been drop because of Lee Soo-man's exit from SM.
As someone who was there from the beginning the "ending" of defeating the black mamba felt so anticlimactic that I hope your theory is right.
I don't think they're planning to drop their concept anytime soon.
Spicy was their pre debut song, so it was planned to be theirs even before stuff in company happened. They released ae-members video for Better things and ae-members are always shown at concerts.
Can't wait to see how "Armageddon" (their next comeback, also their 1st full album) fits into all of this. Because with a title like that, you KNOW something is going down.
i think you've put some of my thoughts/headcanons into words with this one! it's hard to have hopes on sm creativity-wise these days since frankly i have no idea what they're doing with their artists rn, but i've had similar headcanons about what's going on at the moment, though not as detailed as your explanation here. i hope we're all going to the right direction, because this is such a cool concept. also, we need another cawman video 😔
Yeah definitely! I’m sure aespa’s story will change without LSM at the reigns anymore, but hopefully there’s still an effort to continue the story in some way 😭
@@choujimi have you seen the news abt armageddon? i think you might be on to somethingg
Nothing better than a Jimi video trying to figure out the Aespa lore the same way people tried to figure the Loonaverse.
My only connection i have is that in Drama in an AU, Black Mamba infected the avatars and now in the real world, the AI is trying to off the members. Hint: Salty & Sweet.
I don't have proof but neither doubts
The editing of these videos always have me kicking my feet. It’s just so good.
i never got the kwanga lore i gave up in between but i really enjoyed listening to this theory and i understood pretty well lmao
which is surprising for me 💀💗
says a exol lmao
but i hope this lore keeps going on and doesn’t end tbh
I think it's pretty clear once you watch all episodes and grasp all vocabulary
@@AB-yk2pq i’m a lazy potato so i didn’t go into it ✨💀😂i know some points tho lol
Saw this after Supernova released. If an exabyte is the equivalent of the Sun, and a supernova is the death event of a star, then maybe it’s connected
BoA at the end of thethird episode shows that Black mamba or at least her creator/main villain are far away from done and there was even shot of BoA during Black mamba MV.
Now, the storyline will be probably adjusted/changed without Lee Soman's inputs and with the fact that BoA right now isn't feeling well and planning to retire next year, so I'm expecting at least one more real world concept before the next form of villan shows up and if/when Naevis regains her powers. (But hot take, i definitely think she's related to evil in Kwagnya more than it seems).
Yeah definitely! I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s changed a lot. I think BoA has earned a well-deserved break from SM, but I’m also interested to know what her involvement in the story would’ve been 😭
I don’t think we’re ever getting a full kwangya concept or villain concept again, since the members are obviously over it. Ningning thinks it’s childish and all members said they want to make more easy listening music! And let’s face it, their 2023 music was way more well received than their previous style
@@viktoria5725Ning Ning didn't say it's childish, she just said that she finds "be my ae" greeting awkward. And they had easy listening music while having their concept? Yeppi Yeppi, Lucid dream, ICU and such songs were happening in their earlier works and their kick off started with Next level which is really in the concept with everything.
Even their most recent works have hints at their original concept in first place.
@@AB-yk2pqi wasnt talking abt the be my ae thing, a couple months ago ning said it in an interview i think! I don’t think she‘s the only aespa member who thinks that way! They all loved spicy and drama and seemed way more excited in 2023 abt their music than they ever did before (:
@@viktoria5725Well Spicy was supposed to be a part of their storyline and discography even before they debuted and they all said they said how they were really happy to sing that song finally and for Drama, they all made it clear they loved how choreography and performance turned out, but they had similar reactions to majority of their songs minus Forever and Girls.
You're take about drama and spicy being homages to film genres turn into simulations or illusions its kinda the same lore I thought. That would explain salty and sweet being "kwangya-coded" even though they're supposed to be in the real world. Maybe they are poisoned so they don't realise it is all an illusion and that's why they don't notice thw glitchs in spicy and then they get fully into drama's concept, but still glitching like when they are in the roof and they change positions
I just always assumed the events of the Drama MV took place before welcome My world and spicy and sometime after Girls but not still in that mini album time line if not then like no longer than 5 seconds after that mini. Maybe drama could even take place before girls cause we didn’t get an SM culture universe episode for the girls comeback when it came out. I’m not too attached to the Aespa lore or Aespa in general but I had just assumed that My world and Spicy released after girls so that they had a sound and concept that SM could debut navies into eventually and or have a direction for the girls to mature into similar to how twice set up fancy and feel special to mature there concept later on and how NCT dream used Hello future to also mature there concept.
I swear you're literally carrying k-tube on your back so hard
I never thought about spicy and my world this way but it makes so much sense
I think everyone who hates spicy and says they're upset because aespa is "following trends and losing it's originality" needs to watch this !
It'll clear so many things up
I think aespa’s lore right now is returning to the real world and dealing with the leftover evil from black mamba’s reign. Aes are known to be digital versions of oneself and in drama aespa seems to be fighting themselves. Meaning black mambas corruption has extended onto the aes and there’s no rule there can be one ae because our digital selves change all the time with trends coming and going.
U know how drama has this laws that say never look back thats the only rule that naevis told them never look back blackmamba ning looks back Karina tooo savage winter looks back Giselle tooo 😮😮
You set the bars very high for your videos. I came expecting that this video will be great, but it's definitely more than that. I was thinking about the concept change and the lore connection, but my only real points were that something's up, Naevis is pretty sus and there's definitely a new villain coming, way more important or significant than Black Mamba, I need a mew SMCU episode so badly 😍.
To me the conformation that they still trapped in kwagya are the Salty and sweet mv and i'm unhappy mv, you can see they choose stay inside the adventure and being hacked.
gosh i finally understand it, i love aespa lore so much
thanks for this!
this is such a good analysis vid i felt like i was drvgged while watching it
Ok now I’m curious how Supernova and Armageddon plays a role in the lore…
I'll just try to address the question why too much data was a problem and appeared to defeat Black Mamba. If it is an AI system then it runs on a machine with physical elements for storage and processing which inherently means there are limitations. Giselle asked Ningning to upload an exabyte of data hoping to cause buffer overflow, which can and did crash the system. A real world example of this is that commercial websites have crashed and gone down when there was too much traffic overloading its capacity to service requests.
Ohmygoshhh I need you to analyze Supernova and Armageddon when it comes out, this theory is toooo goood 🙈🙏
I agree. It makes sense. I thought the glitches in the real world happened because Kwangyan was getting fused with the real world, but it all being a Kwangyan generated world also makes sense. I honestly feel sad that a lot of ppl think Spicy and Drama were complete departures from the core concept and lore, but like, they're clearly not.
It would be nice if you could do it again with supernova and Armageddon
cool theory! i see it more as they defeated black mamba, and went back to the real world. but they were changed from their time in kwanga. so in SPICY/MY WORLD, we see them trying to be normal girls again, but they're so shiny and fake now after their time in AI. and maybe brought some of the flat back with them. and then in DRAMA, they go back to fighting evil but now in the real world. but now i'm rethinking that
i have a crush on aespa
I literally did a blogpost about this at the beginning/end of year after that video about the SMCU being so called DEAD but really DRAMA is just a continuation of lore. Also a lot fans don't watch the SM artist videos i.e. Key, NCT, Red Velvet still have major ties like the car crashes in Killer and Drama, NCT Wish WISH and Supernova falling into cars. I literally had to make a playlist because it just kept continuing even Ningning Cheese shoes and Suho has a song named Cheese featuring RV's Wendy.
You’re right. NCT still live in that fantasy world. But since aespa is themed in duality then this means a version of aespa has escaped from the fantasy world and are now here in the real world. Maybe NTC can escape Kwangya and save aespa from the clutches of how dark the real world influences can be. Or…. The two(aespa and NTC127)have the most epic dance battle in the middle of Korea, busker style.
Too much? I’ll put down the kimchi.
I know i'm pretty late, but I always though black mamba took over Aespa. They seemed to be different ever since Girls and Illusion. Like with how the aesthetic changed.
escaping to kwangya rn
LOVEEEE THIS THEORY. I wanna share my theory too tho to see I have a similar theory but instead of them still being inside kwangya what if the worlds are crashing into each other. Let me explain
From the better things show and better things mv we meet this Alexa type box (I forgot the name so imma call her AElexa). AElexa reveal she can grant wishes (even though she can be mischievous with how to wishes come out to be). I’m thinking either one of the aespa members, navis, or someone else may have made a wish which caused an overlap in multiple universes. I have a feeling I’m right cus in the mini show aespa did after drama we see this box twice. First ep when they playing hide and seek and it’s revealed that the aespa members are actually ghost in their moms house and in the second ep when they suspect one of the Aespa members are not human. Both is the same house but different furniture.
Even in bookish theories video for drama she thinks the aespa members have multiple versions of themselves. One version that’s trying to hurt each other and the other side trying to save everyone. I believe this also helps my theory too.
So the question is who made the wish? My theory is it’s winter. In better things she was the one who had the dream. In Welcome to my world she also said “Here’s the invitation, come to me” which could also be the fact she made the wish to bring naevis back to her but the plan got messed up. Could also be naevis herself but let’s see.
Tbh love your videos and this idea … but due to the coporate changes that went on in the higher ups I truly just think kwangya is dead… 😭 would love for you to be right tho
I think you’re probably right 😭 I’m just speaking it into existence, manifesting and pretending like kwangya is still a thing until it’s a reality
@@choujimi respect 🫡 ✊
this theory then tracks for SUPERNOVA, a classic superhero motif that would make sense in the kwanya simulation of the real world. but how do we fit in armageddon? the lyrics seem to reference the lore & the mv is full of imagery from the early SM episodes. Perhaps the real world and the virtual world have collided/the leak became a flood, merging aespa and their aes in the real world? "Now define it / My personal definition of complete / I shall lead every part of me / Do it all myself / At last complete myself"
sidenote: there are 3 KOSMOZENS, gigantic celestial beings.................... and in the armageddon video it kind of seems like karina, winter and ningning are turning into/evolving into gigantic celestial beings..................................................... but not giselle, but why leave her out? perhaps the kosmozens theory is totally batshit but still oddly giselle seems to be the only one not turning into/merging into a Higher Form... and maybe it's all still in the kwangya but the entire concept seems like the real world is getting totally effed up by the virtual world now .... SM WE NEED MORE EPISODES
We really do need more episodes 😭 with the three kosmozens idea in mind, perhaps the simulation theory is just from Giselle’s perspective? -
My wild guess at this point in time is that Giselle may be the only one trapped in Kwangya and experiencing the simulation of the real world. The other members of aespa that we see are not real, or perhaps are kosmozens pretending to be humans. Giselle is slowly starting to realize nothing is real, yet doesn’t know how to escape?
Im a my but im having trouble actually getting into the lore. Can you plz make a video explaining the lore in a semi-detailed summary or can anyone tell me where i can go to check it out?
Very interesting video btw!
Just watch all 3 episodes in order now, videos I watched explaining it don't really do it much justice, mostly because they're outdated. Once you watch episodes, a lot of their lyrics will start to make more sense.
karina literally said theyre not in kwangya anymore
Black Mamba Karina would say that.
Was that sims 4 intro music?
Yeah haha 😭 it’s from the Cats & Dogs expansion th-cam.com/video/yAGJY_e4VDk/w-d-xo.htmlsi=H04BMnj2uJNZxHhG
@@choujimi OMG, that's my fave 😍😍😍
SM is not good with keeping their lore consistent tho
I think aespa’s lore right now is returning to the real world and dealing with the leftover evil from black mamba’s reign. Aes are known to be digital versions of oneself and in drama aespa seems to be fighting themselves. Meaning black mambas corruption has extended onto the aes and there’s no rule there can be one ae because our digital selves change all the time with trends coming and going.