They just got it so right with the older model, not that there is anything wrong with the new model per say its a good watch but the old one is a great watch
I’m lucky to have the older Divers 65, a real struggle to find even in 2020. I can’t understand why Oris stopped this version with the Arabic numbers but, in a way I’m glad they did as I feel I’ve got something so cool. Still love this watch, I will never part with it. I do like the cream coloured dial in the new diver but doubt I’ll ever be able to afford one.
Oris watches get overlooked a lot of the time , but you really couldnt get a better watch for your money, very well made,lots of history,swiss made etc . Cheers for the review..by the way the older model is my pick but both are awesome watches.
True, what do you think of their new calibre is it worth the extra 1000 over the standard ones as you can get it in a 65 diver but instead of £2k its £3k ?
I prefer the older model as it still has the good balance (of proportion) of the crystal, midcase, and caseback. Modern watches today (e.g., Tudor BB58) tend to have dominant midcase section that appears relatively too thick due to the flat crystal/bezel & caseback. I love Oris watches in general, and I currently have the Oris divers 65 "glow." Personally, I prefer watches with solid caseback & no date, as far as divers are concerned. The Oris dial is also very clean, with very little text. Oris is one of those watch brands that are still standing on its own (not part of a bigger group). I hope they remain that way.
I owned the original at one time and it blows away these more generic designs. I didn't realize there were so many differences in the case and crystal but I'm still a bigger fan of the OG.
It’s my current dream watch and this video confirmed it. I definitely like the improvements, mostly dimension-wise, over the Sixty-Five. It looks so elegant and retro.
@ I’m really torn between blue and black. Which do you think is more dynamic and suits the design of the watch best? My AD is offering it to me for $2300-which is $400 less than MSRP. Is it worth it? This or a Black Bay 54?
@@ClickSpringReview That's great feedback. I'm not in a rush, so I can wait for the dust to settle to get more of a discount. The black really is so classy and was the first color I saw-which really took my breath away. It truly is the Black Bay I have dreamt about (I sold my Black Bay GMT as it had too many shortcomings, mostly related to its enormous size).
I ordered a new (old stock) Heritage 65 model, then days later came across the (very) new Diver Date. I instantly questioned my purchase, as the new Diver Date is absolutely exquisite - I hope they sell a bundle of them. Upon returning home, I picked up my new watch - it is beautiful and fits my wrist wonderfully. Of course my Heritage 65 cost much less (about $1400) than the new Diver Date, which makes me feel as though I got a good deal, however the new model is absolutely gorgeous - give it a try.
You can't go wrong with either model, I myself prefer the OG there are so many little things like the crystal and bracelet size dial and even the thicker hands of the old one I just love
I love the dial configuration and the full black bezel of the first iteration but much prefer the sizing of the latest one. The case of the first one also looks a bit cooler regarding the proportions of the case vs bezel and crystal. I had intended to buy the “original” one and had the opportunity to do so a few months ago, but looked a bit too big on my 7 inch wrist, especially with that dial which actually makes the watch wear bigger. Hope they reissue that dial on the new 39mm case eventually.
Usual thorough review. Do I like this one? Absolutely. A little small for me, but a good looking watch. I much prefer its classical look to the fussiness of the 65 heritage. Having the minute markers all the way round the bezel on the original is actually better for diving, but who actives with these things now?! 🤣
So funny that you posted this comparison Barry as I just picked up a used but mint full set Heritage Diver 65 - same as yours but on the tropic strap and I was searching for a good example for ages. As you say, much harder to come by now. I definitely prefer the OG, but as a 2 watch collection, I can see the new model being popular, especially with the display case-back and bracelet updates. I still prefer the dial (especially that cool 60's font on the indices) and bulbus crystal on the Heritage model though. Nothing can beat that look. Great review as always.
Cool and well done its sure to be a future classic, I serviced my 65 last year, I'd love to fit the display case-back it as I'm sure it would fit ps thanks :)
I was thinking of getting rid of mine as i just wasn't wearing it as I was always wearing one of my other's, but it just has such a distinctive look and I know I'd regret it if I sold it on. 😊👍🏻
I thought the same, every so often another watch will come up for sale and it gets me thinking if I sold this lol, but when I wear it I really do enjoy it
Exactly, I find when I put a particular watch on after having not worn it in a few months, it's like that new watch feeling I get and realise how much I still appreciate it. One youtuber said if you fall out of love or get bored with a watch, just put it away in the loft because if you sell it then you might have that sellers regret lol. I don't think I'll be putting my 65 in the loft though 😅
Hi Barry, I'm going to buck the trend here because I prefer the new model. The older dial is too busy for my taste, and the new watch is actually far more capable than the older model. LG Bob 🍻
I definitely prefer the size & design commitment of the old 65. I updated my 65 to a CAL400 model about 18 months ago, got it on the grey market for £2K. The RRP of the new model feels poor value by comparison.
On my radar but I'll be waiting for them to drop a calibre400 into this case (even if £3k). For me, perfect dimensions and spec. Companies know the hate they'll get for anything not 20mm lug width, therefore they must have found it is a better fit for the design.
The 65 diver calibre 400 can out early last year I prefer the SW movements myself as they seem more reliable www.oris.ch/en-GB/product/watch/divers/divers-sixty-five-calibre-400/01-400-7772-4054-07-8-20-18?srsltid=AfmBOopOJ9RqGBHnLXBDGZHwBVPBpuLrO3kgUkWTulWY_3yBnfFV2ZDq
This watch is fabulous. I love the blue and I love the creamy white. The issue here is how they get the movement to perform, you are talking about £2000 and Oris need to get on board with the idea that at this price you need to have the word chronometer - this is really not a big ask. I’ve no doubt that they will be getting a lot out of that movement. my impression is this piece is right on the boundary of Swiss made, but that’s okay and nothing wrong with Sellita.
This one is running within COSC spec's Robert and my one is to, and was even before I serviced it myself earlier this year now it is running at +1.5s. I do think Oris regulate this one really well
@ I like them although I don’t own one. I understand they are a really good company who actually care about their customers. The colours on this new model are fantastic but I do understand some of the criticism and it’s obviously a model designed to nibble at a certain price point below one or two other very popular brands . (Tudor)
This may be the first overview of the new Diver 65 that at least partly answers my most crucial question about it: is the lume on it as terrible as on the older model? The answer seems to be no. On the photos it looked the same on the hands and on the indices. Well done Oris for finally figuring it out :) Generally I'm warming to the new iteration, especially the blue dial shown here. They hit the nail on the head with the slightly smaller size, the reduction of lug-to-lug distance is most welcome. That said, I don't think I'll trade my bronze bezel one for this, unless they also put the bronze bezel on the new one :) That pop of color is just so cool, I'm willing to overlook the clearly inferior technical spec of my model compared to this.
I don't mind the lume myself as long as I can see the time all the way though the night if I wake up I'm happy Sir, The lug to lug distance is only half a millimetre different to the OG, I'm not keen on a 19mm bracelet as most of my straps are either 20/22 or 24 but saying that my one stays on it bracket 99% of the time :)
New version is just boring for me and looks like dozens of other skin diver watches-Vulcain,Aquastar to name a few.Older one was my favourite with the nice looking printed squary indices,but Im a fan of such.Myself having Super Sea Wolf Skin in blue with minty triangle applied indices.
The Sinn U50 is 2,500€ and comes with the SW300 where as my Breitling Colt cost over €3K 5 years ago comes with a ETA 2824 (SW200). The Sinn sounds like a bargain 👍🏻 Honestly the SW200 (ETA2824) is a great a solid movement and I'd say much better than the high end Seiko 8L fitted in the MM300 range of watches which cost 3,000 euros
The only improved aspects of this new model are the size and proportions. The materials and finishing of this new model seem too modern, clinical, and glossy for the supposed vintage style and size of this watch. It’s missing the organic charm of the D65.
I have a weird thing with Oris, Longines and Omega. I know they're good quality time pieces and I know that by popular opinion I'm supposed to like them. Barring a couple of models (the Longines VHP springs to mind) I don't like them. Is it something I'm missing? I'm not blinkered to a few watch brands either
@@robertlock6041 I get that, it seems completely normal to like them. It's just odd how I feel I'm "supposed" to like may watches that I don't. I'm on what is probably the largest non specific brand FB group. I can't get behind these few brands though. Hamilton is the same for me, but i do have an exception with the E. T. O, Which I love
Oris were always one to push against the norm and make some interesting watches for hardcore watch nerds but let’s face it- we love them but never bought them in big numbers so their latest offerings are sterile, safe and boring to appeal to the most people which means they’ll sell in bucketloads- as long as they keep doing the interesting stuff WE all love it’ll be fine 😅
My only problem with Oris is their in house Cal 400 as you can also get a 40mm 65 diver with it in but its a little over £3k, I hope they carry on making the SW200 models otherwise they could price them selfs out of the market,
I've never got on with the Ranger myself I think its the hands, I've always preferred the Sinn 556 at 38.5mm or even the 65, But we all like different models and thats what keeps things interesting 👍🏻
@@ClickSpringReview I wanted the 556 for 2 years. I finally bought it, and as great as the expectation, so great the disappointment. The clasp drove me crazy as it was very difficult for me to adjust it to fit exactly, the lume was terrible (I have the 104 today with a significantly better lume) and the short hands just drove me crazy. Also, surprisingly, when the minute hand was at 12, the hour hand wasn't exactly on the hour and my OCD didn't handle that well LOL. A beautiful watch with more flaws than I expected. The ranger is simple but boy I love it. The best bracelet I've handled and it's so comfortable overall.
Thats a real shame chap I've always been lucky myself but understand where you're coming from there , I have the new clasp on the 556 but I'm really not a fan. 👍🏻
Thanks for this…new style is better on paper and in many other ways but that old dial is still class
They just got it so right with the older model, not that there is anything wrong with the new model per say its a good watch but the old one is a great watch
I’m lucky to have the older Divers 65, a real struggle to find even in 2020.
I can’t understand why Oris stopped this version with the Arabic numbers but, in a way I’m glad they did as I feel I’ve got something so cool.
Still love this watch, I will never part with it.
I do like the cream coloured dial in the new diver but doubt I’ll ever be able to afford one.
I think I got mine by swapping a Seiko MM200 Great Blue Hole for it back in 2021 and I serviced it myself earlier this year
The old version is so unique. It was a great reissue.
Yes very much so I don't believe they ever better it
Oris watches get overlooked a lot of the time , but you really couldnt get a better watch for your money, very well made,lots of history,swiss made etc . Cheers for the review..by the way the older model is my pick but both are awesome watches.
True, what do you think of their new calibre is it worth the extra 1000 over the standard ones as you can get it in a 65 diver but instead of £2k its £3k ?
@ClickSpringReview I still say it's a good buy , plus it gives you a choice, buy the new caliber or stick with the older one !
I prefer the older model as it still has the good balance (of proportion) of the crystal, midcase, and caseback.
Modern watches today (e.g., Tudor BB58) tend to have dominant midcase section that appears relatively too thick due to the flat crystal/bezel & caseback.
I love Oris watches in general, and I currently have the Oris divers 65 "glow." Personally, I prefer watches with solid caseback & no date, as far as divers are concerned. The Oris dial is also very clean, with very little text.
Oris is one of those watch brands that are still standing on its own (not part of a bigger group). I hope they remain that way.
I'm with you its also good to support the independent brands I'm a big Sinn fan
Team old school 🤩
100% 👍🏻
Yep I am with the old school version, but I would love ORIS to release a 65 Diver with their Caliber 400 - now that would be awesome 👏
They have Bruce but its 40mm and not 39 and has the new style dial and cost another grand more
I owned the original at one time and it blows away these more generic designs. I didn't realize there were so many differences in the case and crystal but I'm still a bigger fan of the OG.
Agree completely. The Heritage model is superb.
There is just something so right with the OG I'm wearing it as I type and love it
@ClickSpringReview yep. Wearing mine too. Awsome watch. I've even contacted my AD to try and source me the OEM bracelet.... Faux Rivets and all!
Fingers crossed for you chap ps if you need it servicing let my know
It’s my current dream watch and this video confirmed it. I definitely like the improvements, mostly dimension-wise, over the Sixty-Five. It looks so elegant and retro.
Which colour would you go for ?
@ I’m really torn between blue and black. Which do you think is more dynamic and suits the design of the watch best? My AD is offering it to me for $2300-which is $400 less than MSRP. Is it worth it? This or a Black Bay 54?
I think the black model is one out of the two to go for and as for the price I'm sure you could get even more of than that
@@ClickSpringReview That's great feedback. I'm not in a rush, so I can wait for the dust to settle to get more of a discount. The black really is so classy and was the first color I saw-which really took my breath away. It truly is the Black Bay I have dreamt about (I sold my Black Bay GMT as it had too many shortcomings, mostly related to its enormous size).
@ how do you feel about the Divers Date vs. the Black Bay 54? Which would you go with?!
I bought the first one, on discount, love at first sight.
Every other iteration that got rid of the retro dial, has just felt sterile and cold.
I do feel they nailed it with the first model
The dial of the OG model just blows it out of the water imo
I'm with you on that one John 👍🏻
Nice one... I love both of these.... It would kill me to choose between them.
For my Anthony it would always be the OG
I ordered a new (old stock) Heritage 65 model, then days later came across the (very) new Diver Date. I instantly questioned my purchase, as the new Diver Date is absolutely exquisite - I hope they sell a bundle of them.
Upon returning home, I picked up my new watch - it is beautiful and fits my wrist wonderfully.
Of course my Heritage 65 cost much less (about $1400) than the new Diver Date, which makes me feel as though I got a good deal, however the new model is absolutely gorgeous - give it a try.
You can't go wrong with either model, I myself prefer the OG there are so many little things like the crystal and bracelet size dial and even the thicker hands of the old one I just love
@ there’s plenty to like with either, and so many others. I suppose that’s why it’s known as collecting. 😉
yep exactly Pete
I'm rocking the OG numeral bico (black with the sunburst royal blue). It's so good, it's my daily.
I remember that one 😎 ps I'm wearing mine also
such a clean skin diver inspired design
Your right it doesn't get much cleaner than these
I love the dial configuration and the full black bezel of the first iteration but much prefer the sizing of the latest one. The case of the first one also looks a bit cooler regarding the proportions of the case vs bezel and crystal. I had intended to buy the “original” one and had the opportunity to do so a few months ago, but looked a bit too big on my 7 inch wrist, especially with that dial which actually makes the watch wear bigger. Hope they reissue that dial on the new 39mm case eventually.
They do make a 40mm model with their in house cal 400 but it cost another £1k more 01 400 7772 4054-07 8 20 18
Usual thorough review. Do I like this one? Absolutely. A little small for me, but a good looking watch. I much prefer its classical look to the fussiness of the 65 heritage. Having the minute markers all the way round the bezel on the original is actually better for diving, but who actives with these things now?! 🤣
You are and I guess but the same can be said for these automatic watches but we still love them :)
So funny that you posted this comparison Barry as I just picked up a used but mint full set Heritage Diver 65 - same as yours but on the tropic strap and I was searching for a good example for ages. As you say, much harder to come by now. I definitely prefer the OG, but as a 2 watch collection, I can see the new model being popular, especially with the display case-back and bracelet updates. I still prefer the dial (especially that cool 60's font on the indices) and bulbus crystal on the Heritage model though. Nothing can beat that look. Great review as always.
Cool and well done its sure to be a future classic, I serviced my 65 last year, I'd love to fit the display case-back it as I'm sure it would fit ps thanks :)
@ClickSpringReview Please post a quick video or short if you do decide to fit the display back. It would look great.
@@Bennie_Bee6 I'd love to but unfortunately I cant see them selling me one :(
I would take the old school model. It's not even close.
Yeah me to, they really got this one right
I was thinking of getting rid of mine as i just wasn't wearing it as I was always wearing one of my other's, but it just has such a distinctive look and I know I'd regret it if I sold it on. 😊👍🏻
I thought the same, every so often another watch will come up for sale and it gets me thinking if I sold this lol, but when I wear it I really do enjoy it
Exactly, I find when I put a particular watch on after having not worn it in a few months, it's like that new watch feeling I get and realise how much I still appreciate it. One youtuber said if you fall out of love or get bored with a watch, just put it away in the loft because if you sell it then you might have that sellers regret lol. I don't think I'll be putting my 65 in the loft though 😅
Yeah I can what he means I hadn't wore mine for almost 3 months but wearing it now I couldn't imagine selling it :)
Hi Barry, I'm going to buck the trend here because I prefer the new model. The older dial is too busy for my taste, and the new watch is actually far more capable than the older model. LG Bob 🍻
Bold words Bob 😁😁😁 👍🏻
There is a different version of the older dial that has the same layout as the new one. That would be a stronger apples-to-apples comparison.
Thats true its just as I had it in for review and happen to own the OG model thought it would be good to see them side by side
@ClickSpringReview It was a good plan, Barry... New is not necessarily better... 🍻
I definitely prefer the size & design commitment of the old 65. I updated my 65 to a CAL400 model about 18 months ago, got it on the grey market for £2K.
The RRP of the new model feels poor value by comparison.
Great price for a cal400 model.
I've not played with the 65 Calibre 400 yet but feel I should 🤔
I had the old one exactly the same as you. Should've never sold it.
Ive a few watches like that myself 🤦🏻♂️
The new one is on my list
Which colour are you thinking of getting ?
@ClickSpringReview i think i would go for the black one
Safe bet 👍🏻
On my radar but I'll be waiting for them to drop a calibre400 into this case (even if £3k). For me, perfect dimensions and spec. Companies know the hate they'll get for anything not 20mm lug width, therefore they must have found it is a better fit for the design.
The 65 diver calibre 400 can out early last year I prefer the SW movements myself as they seem more reliable www.oris.ch/en-GB/product/watch/divers/divers-sixty-five-calibre-400/01-400-7772-4054-07-8-20-18?srsltid=AfmBOopOJ9RqGBHnLXBDGZHwBVPBpuLrO3kgUkWTulWY_3yBnfFV2ZDq
I hate the polished sides of the bracelet, but other than that I love the new design
Yeah that just doesn't work for me they should of left it bushed with just the outer sides polished maybe
This watch is fabulous. I love the blue and I love the creamy white. The issue here is how they get the movement to perform, you are talking about £2000 and Oris need to get on board with the idea that at this price you need to have the word chronometer - this is really not a big ask. I’ve no doubt that they will be getting a lot out of that movement. my impression is this piece is right on the boundary of Swiss made, but that’s okay and nothing wrong with Sellita.
This one is running within COSC spec's Robert and my one is to, and was even before I serviced it myself earlier this year now it is running at +1.5s. I do think Oris regulate this one really well
@ I like them although I don’t own one. I understand they are a really good company who actually care about their customers. The colours on this new model are fantastic but I do understand some of the criticism and it’s obviously a model designed to nibble at a certain price point below one or two other very popular brands . (Tudor)
This may be the first overview of the new Diver 65 that at least partly answers my most crucial question about it: is the lume on it as terrible as on the older model? The answer seems to be no. On the photos it looked the same on the hands and on the indices. Well done Oris for finally figuring it out :)
Generally I'm warming to the new iteration, especially the blue dial shown here. They hit the nail on the head with the slightly smaller size, the reduction of lug-to-lug distance is most welcome. That said, I don't think I'll trade my bronze bezel one for this, unless they also put the bronze bezel on the new one :) That pop of color is just so cool, I'm willing to overlook the clearly inferior technical spec of my model compared to this.
I don't mind the lume myself as long as I can see the time all the way though the night if I wake up I'm happy Sir, The lug to lug distance is only half a millimetre different to the OG, I'm not keen on a 19mm bracelet as most of my straps are either 20/22 or 24 but saying that my one stays on it bracket 99% of the time :)
New version is just boring for me and looks like dozens of other skin diver watches-Vulcain,Aquastar to name a few.Older one was my favourite with the nice looking printed squary indices,but Im a fan of such.Myself having Super Sea Wolf Skin in blue with minty triangle applied indices.
Cool I used to have the Super Sea Wolf Anniversary model but sold it 🤦🏻♂️
Why do brands keep insisting on the SW200, the SW300 is a far better movement :)
It’s the price the SW300 cost almost 3x the price of the SW200
Especially at 2500€ price🙃
The Sinn U50 is 2,500€ and comes with the SW300 where as my Breitling Colt cost over €3K 5 years ago comes with a ETA 2824 (SW200). The Sinn sounds like a bargain 👍🏻 Honestly the SW200 (ETA2824) is a great a solid movement and I'd say much better than the high end Seiko 8L fitted in the MM300 range of watches which cost 3,000 euros
The only improved aspects of this new model are the size and proportions. The materials and finishing of this new model seem too modern, clinical, and glossy for the supposed vintage style and size of this watch. It’s missing the organic charm of the D65.
The newer model is a little slimmer but at the cost of the gorgeous crystal though , They just hut the nail on the head with the older model
@@ClickSpringReviewI agree, they did a few things right with the new one, but for me, the romance is gone.
I have a weird thing with Oris, Longines and Omega. I know they're good quality time pieces and I know that by popular opinion I'm supposed to like them. Barring a couple of models (the Longines VHP springs to mind) I don't like them. Is it something I'm missing? I'm not blinkered to a few watch brands either
I do understand what you mean, Mr Papa, but I rather like this model.
@@robertlock6041 I get that, it seems completely normal to like them. It's just odd how I feel I'm "supposed" to like may watches that I don't. I'm on what is probably the largest non specific brand FB group. I can't get behind these few brands though. Hamilton is the same for me, but i do have an exception with the E. T. O, Which I love
Nothing wrong with that @PapaGoodness_47 Ps I feel the same way with regards to Hamilton and also Doxa but don't tell anyone ;)
Oris were always one to push against the norm and make some interesting watches for hardcore watch nerds but let’s face it- we love them but never bought them in big numbers so their latest offerings are sterile, safe and boring to appeal to the most people which means they’ll sell in bucketloads- as long as they keep doing the interesting stuff WE all love it’ll be fine 😅
My only problem with Oris is their in house Cal 400 as you can also get a 40mm 65 diver with it in but its a little over £3k, I hope they carry on making the SW200 models otherwise they could price them selfs out of the market,
Give us 65 with cal 400
Its available with the Cal400 but cost 50% more at £3k and is 40mm 👍🏻
It's a 'nice' watch, but it's a bit vanilla and unexciting and so would probably bore me after a while. The original had some character about it.
Yeah I know what you mean its a safe bet type of watch, nothing wrong with it but its not a stand out piece
Don't like the new one. Too small & shiny!
Thats fair enough
The ceramic insert is so ugly and just doesn't work.
I don't mind it but it does lack the charm of the OG model
Too boring, too expensive and 19mm. Nope.
I found when I first started collecting watches I wanted all the bells and whistles but now I just want quality models where less is more
@ClickSpringReview I totally agree, having Tudor Ranger. However, in this case, less is less, in my opinion.
I've never got on with the Ranger myself I think its the hands, I've always preferred the Sinn 556 at 38.5mm or even the 65, But we all like different models and thats what keeps things interesting 👍🏻
@@ClickSpringReview I wanted the 556 for 2 years. I finally bought it, and as great as the expectation, so great the disappointment. The clasp drove me crazy as it was very difficult for me to adjust it to fit exactly, the lume was terrible (I have the 104 today with a significantly better lume) and the short hands just drove me crazy. Also, surprisingly, when the minute hand was at 12, the hour hand wasn't exactly on the hour and my OCD didn't handle that well LOL. A beautiful watch with more flaws than I expected. The ranger is simple but boy I love it. The best bracelet I've handled and it's so comfortable overall.
Thats a real shame chap I've always been lucky myself but understand where you're coming from there , I have the new clasp on the 556 but I'm really not a fan. 👍🏻