Volvo EX30 Twin Performance Ultra range test
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I think your stereo reviews are great, it is something almost every reviewer glosses over, it is a major aspect of purchase for us (music lovers, time in traffic etc). Thanks Bjorn!
Totally agree
Agree, i have been waiting for someone to test this in this car
I was hoping to find this test in my feed and look what i found! Thanks Björn!
"69 hour battery" and no joke? Bjorn you OK? 😂
Maybe he doesn't know what 69 means 🤷
Maybe they don't have 69 in Norway. 🤣
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Geely has a sense of tradition, making Volvos which are built like a tank, with the Volvo-tank efficiency.
Wow that is high consumption. 180 at only 90kmh. Very nice car but I would probably if then go for RWD Core or Plus trim.
For a smaller car that efficiency is unforgivable.
And what the heck does it use all that juice for? Not like it’s a massive heavy one. Bad aero? But so bad?
Hmm, if I’m not mistaken, the consumption @ 90 and 120 equals roughly Optimus Prime consumption?
Sick of new inefficient EVs, legacy manufacturers suck
@@sp1esmy inefficient i4 M50 of the legacy manufacturer BMW is averaging 15,8 kWh / 100 km this month and 18,7 the last 23.000 km. Can’t complain.
@@Beamer_i4_M50 There are of course, exceptions to the rule
9:13 I can confirm that folks started wearing shorts a couple weeks ago when the weather hit a high of 14. 🤣
Smart #1 ✅ Volvo EX30 ✅…so waiting for the trilogy to complete 😍…Zeekr X!
Most people worldwide are going to buy the Single Motor Extended Range. Wonder what the efficiency is on that one, I don't suspect it will be that much better, but it would be interesting to see.
I like this and look forward to it coming to Australia 🇦🇺.. sound demo activated my surround sound … nice
You will be waiting a while longer
People saying it’s not as good as the model Y… it doesn’t matter. The insurance group for this car in the UK is much lower than any Tesla. For young people it’s impossible to insure a standard range model 3 or Y.
Polestar 2 would cost me £1,100 to insure
Model 3 would be £6,800
Model Y would be £8,900
The quotes I’ve got for the EX30 are around £1,600
Which car is better is only a thing when there are other cars to compare to, and for young drivers, there isn’t a Tesla that is comparable because even if you could afford the £17,000 to buy or lease a used one, the insurance makes no sense.
Yeah, there's clearly something wrong with insurance in UK. Like here in Switzerland I pay sub £1k for both a MY and a Ioniq 5, which is less than for a comparable petrol/diesel car. And there are no (and never were any) subsidies for EVs here. There are just as many narrow and tricky roads here as well, so what's the explanation for this?
@@adrianguggisberg3656 Not sure, but I'm coming at this as a 21 year old. When I am 30 it will cost £400 or so to insure.
@@iambenmitchell I checked online. For an EV a 21 year old could afford I chose a 2016 Model S 85D @£85k when new. Comprehensive, valid for Europe, North Africa, the UK and Ireland, would cost me between £1400 and £2000, depending on some options. That's for 21y/o male, no prior accidents or suspended licence incidents, licence since 3 years living in my village and driving an estimatet 20kkm p/a
Edit: an M3 would be cheaper to insure, but most 21y/o are still in their education and/or military service and likely couldn't afford a new car and associated depreciation.
@@adrianguggisberg3656 a model S is even more expensive to insure than a 2021 model 3 which I planned to finance for £260 a month. 36 months £1,000 down.
But then the insurance was ridiculous so I’m considering polestar instead since I prefer the design and hatchback but I also prefer the Tesla software.
@@iambenmitchell A Model S in good condition starts from £10k. A good Model 3 is almost never under £20k. At this age I wouldn't recommend leasing a car. If the car is only £10k you likely only want third party insurance @ around £500 (here on Switzerland)
Edit: I save £10k in 36 months plus £3k insurance less the depreciation of the Model S, so roughly £15k over Leasing a Model 3
In your case obviously insurance is a dealbreaker for Tesla.
Björn, the stereo microphones do a very good job when testing the sound system! 🎶👍😀👍
I could hear the music coming from behind when you enabled the "High" settings. (using headset)
Thank you Bjørn for the quality content and a great review! The hype is real! 🤩
Good car in this case means reasonable choice after a 35+% discount.
Weighs more than a Model Y, wasn't expecting that!
Like for like, nobody is getting close to being as light as the Tesla M3 or Y. I think it must be the large castings they use making the big difference. This may be the key to the efficiency that nobody else can match too.
@@TheAegisClaw thing is this isn't even like for like, the MY is half a metre longer than the EX30, and a bit taller, although has a slightly (~4kWh?) smaller battery. Very impressive from Tesla.
@@JoshuaStringfellow1 yep, they're still setting the bar by which others are measured in terms of efficiency and performance. To have the best efficiency AND the best performance shows how far ahead they really are. That first roadster, with a super light Lotus chassis was not chance.
Volvo tends to use a lot of steel in their cars, rather than aluminum, so yes, heavier. A lot of pros and cons to that. Tesla has a ten year head start in EV design, but other manufacturers are improving theirs in leaps and bounds. Then there’s the fact that Geely have actually released compact car models ahead of Tesla, taking the advantage, as have a number of other brands from Europe and China. Tesla is now going to have to create a very good sub-compact car to counter that. Tesla has cut margins to the bone on the model 3 and Y. Can the company do the same with a new model to make it affordable for the masses, yet remain profitable? That remains to be seen.
@@davidcottrell570 Ah steel vs aluminium makes sense, cheers.
Will be exciting to see if Magnesium takes off for cars, it's already used a bit but if lightweighting starts getting taken more seriously then its usage could really expand.
Unlike Tesla this is actually coming to South Africa. I'll support them fully
12:40 - Hey @bjornnyland. It looks like you still have the transport frame around your rear-view mirror. This is made of transparent plastic and is often forgotten to be removed on the EX30.
On the steering wheel you have to press exactly on the icons to operate. This is being fixed in MY2025 cars .. with a possible retro-fix.. There is a really big OTA update coming soon as owners have reported a lot of software issues
A fix in 2025? Why not fixing it now its just a simple button lmao
@@kenion2166 MY2025 starts deliveries in July, so they are fixing it this year.
@@kenion2166my25 is now being produced and delivered this year. Volvo changes model years around may in the year.
@@thenerdysk8er So will USA orders get MY25 when the deliveries arrive in July, do you think?
@@SimonDedmanyou would have to ask your dealer. I think it should be possible to postpone your order but make sure to ask your dealer
With regards to the Auto lane keeping and auto lane change, I wonder when the manufacturers will add a feature for pot hole avoidance. Unfortunately if you use auto lane keeping in the UK, it will steer within the lanes but will crash into the holes.😅 Here in the UK we have the worst roads, even motorways have dangerous pot holes.
Bjorn,
Enjoy your videos. Which app do you use to test 0-62 time? Thanks.
Dragy
Is that somewhat a seal of approval Bjorn? Or is it too early to say. Thanks for this drop.
Great videos as always! Wish you'd review a Mercedess-Benz's E-class hybrid from 2018/2019's to see the battery degradation and interior maybe. (For us eastern Europeans who don't have the finances to buy brand new, but want euro 6+)
I review EVs in this channel.
Nicht gut. But I was expecting worse tbh.
The front motor is used quite sparingly when you floor it or it loses grip, so it probably didn't make a huge difference to the range test compared to the Extended Range RWD with the same battery.
Is it forgivable given the decent charging speed and software? I don't think it's going to be a roadtrip favourite but good enough for the daily.
I like geely car, i like the design and the idea of using properly one of the best systems in evs. But i thing this is a car with to many small but significant flaws.
If the car was cheaper, it would be okay. But i guess you pay for the brand. Thanks for the review bjorn
I've had my Ultra Pef for 3 weeks and 1k miles now...I still hate the steering wheel buttons! Especially for setting cruise speed, totally nuts how bad they are. Can OTA fix that...?
A fix is coming
Dam, consumption higher than my xpower. I get a nice 18kwh per 100km @ 100kmh.
Thanks for the test. In the past, some reviewers mentioned that the consumption during non urban trips is much better if you switch OPD off because sailing does a good job. Can you verify that?
That's true for all cars, because physics.
@@adrianguggisberg3656 sure. But these days you can alter all these things by software. And if you do a range test it's totally different if the car is constantly awaiting the next braking situation or knows it's going straight on a highway. So for those long range tests OPD should be switched off and one of the screens shows it's not.
@@franktasche116 Software cannot change physics. Bjorn Nyland believes OPD is equally efficient as gliding, which is why he is in OPD. But he's wrong on that topic, generally speaking. However, as long as you use some form of smart cruise control most of the time, it won't make a difference.
OPD does not mean "coasting" is also not possible - I use OPD 100% of the time in my Tesla model 3 (I have no choice - it's fixed), I often keep the pedal at a position where the consumption is neutral (neither braking/charging nor accelerating) OPD does not mean you are either 100% using the battery or 100% off the pedal and charging.
I have a lifetime consumption of 108wh/km with 50% freeway at 110km/h and 50% city so I try to be conservative, if there is no traffic then auto pilot and manual driving have the same consumption, when there is a lot of freeway traffic I can do 2-3% or so better by anticipating the slowing traffic and trying to keep the momentum going as much as I can, not always possible without annoying the traffic around / behind you there is a difference but it is small.
What is the "self driving" experience like compare to say Tesla Model 3? Are the systems on par or are there big differences?
can't be worse than the Model 3 haha (no capacitive steering wheel either)
I've got a 2023 XC60 Recharge with the same system and a 2023 model 3 - the Tesla system is much better, one major issue I have with the Volvo system is when the outside road marking disappears (the line marking the outside edge of the road) or the space betwee the lines widens significantly the Volvo wants to lurch violently towards the unmarked edge or try to rapidly re-centre, the Tesla will recognise what is happening and stick to the same distance from the centre line much better.
The Volvo system also has more micro adjustements than the Tesla (left to right when going straight), the Tesla is far more consistent at keeping the wheel straight.
Unlike the US reports in Australia I think I have had only 1 "phantom braking" episode in 26000km of driving.
@@TB-up4xi ok, thanks for your feedback!
Press and hold for 1km increase, and just press to jump up 5km on CC?
That does my head in.
*km/h
Yes, we are wearing shorts now :)
I think for me the biggest plus is the EX30’s ability to tow 1600kg. If the M3 towed that much or up to 1400kg I would prefer the Tesla.
ModelY is 1600kg?
@@kenion2166model Y is too big.
@@TheAegisClaw The Y is 50cm longer, and if we talk about towing something these 50cm will have no impact at all
@@kenion2166 it's just too big a car for most people in Europe. Regardless of towing.
@@TheAegisClaw Most sold EV in Germany so I don't know how its to "big" for most people. If its to big for you its fine, but don't project that to everyone lmao
Why the heck are these cars so damn heavy? How the heck can it be the same weight as a Model Y which is so much bigger?
Why not play directly from the apps e.g Spotify directly from the infotainment system?
Copyrighted music there.
Ahhh, giver god mening...Får min om 12 dage - can't wait Twin Motor Ultra...
do you prefer overall the smart @3 or the EX30?
EX30
@@bjornnyland i bought the hachtag ! too late 😂
No heads up display is so stupid. Copying all the wrong aspect of Tesla.
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If we subtract Bjørn and a guess at some gear, this thing is still going to be close to 1900 kg. How is that even possible? A base Polestar 2 RWD with a significantly larger battery is just under 2000.
Er det mulighet for å justere følsomheten på gasspedal? Synes det var litt tricky å holde jevn hastighet uten at det ble hakkete.
Use snow or eco mode
I'm considering buying this car, but.. If this cruise control fail happened during my test drive I would just return this car to dealer and forget about it. I hate bugs like this plus I'm using cruise control 80% of the time.
The do everything on a touch screen is so annoying. Along with no instrument cluster or heads up display. At least they didn't remove windshield wiper control.
The Tesla scroll wheel for speed changes, is a much better implementation. Small bugs like the change of speed lag, just put me off. Software quality is (almost) everything!
What is the app you use to monitor the battery condition? What obd dongle do you use?
Car Scanner
Lots of criticism and i agree, they’re all valid points!
Really disappointed with Volva and polestar, their consumption is so high.
Quite sick of the performance variants... It's like they are trying to sweep the regular versions out of site
I imagine car audio systems are tuned for the driver's position first and foremost, so I'd put the microphones roughly where your ears are, rather than on the sun visors.
Believe me, most of the audio systems are not 'tuned' like this. You usually need to get to specialized shop to get the `scene` oriented towards driver, and that also includes providing some extra hardware that can do so. In high-end systems this may be the case (Like Burmeister), but that's also not given.
Also you would be surprised how many high-end cars ends up with stereo system from cheaper models. Like Porsche or Audis having speakers dating back from Golf 4 :D
@@JohnAtomics Sure, clip them to your ears. Close enough. 😉
Most cars have a setting for this. Default is even distribution on all seats. You can change to focus on driver only but I never use this setting. Therefore, the mic placement is correct.
@@bjornnyland On that note, I also think that your placement is correct here as it check the most 'out-of-the-box' setting as most of the drivers would never touch 'fade' controls.
Hi Bjorn. It would be so cool if you could test the new Tesla MY RWD LR. For me this is the real EV range beast around in the marketplace.
Just to add some context to those who are unaware: The reason this car gets a lot of attention is because European cities need small-ish and more affordable EVs. The EX30 starts at 329 000 NOK and has a very good balance between being practical/boxy and still fairly efficient. You dont get many other smaller pure EV platform, IKEA spaceships for this low price!
Its only cheap in absolut bare minimum specc. This model he is reviewing is far from cheap. More expensive than a tesla m3, BYD seal and so on.
With recent discounts on Tesla the EX30 is way to expensive for what it offers
In the UK, the model he is testing (Ultra trim, dual motor performance) costs less per month than a Tesla Model 3 RWD. Even though it contains park assist, lane change assist, and is quicker than a Model 3 LR or Model Y performance.
@@Martin-dx5zs in return you get a cramped car that basicly only children can sit in the rear seat.
Which is a good thing we only ever plan on having children in the back (ordered this exact car). What we gain is a far better build quality and a size that’s more suitable for the UK.
Chinese or Swedish car?
Swedish designed, but built in a Chinese factory using ALL Chinese parts&labor. 👍🏻😀
@@4literv6 no wonder why
@@4literv6 The EX30 delivered to Europe is built in Ghent, Belgium.
@@TB-up4xi not yet it ain't smh. That's an in progress project not even expected to produce ex30s until sometime in late 2025.😏
I’m so glad that I bought the #1 Brabus and didn’t wait for the EX30. Those id3 style steering wheel buttons would send me nuts. Also the lack of a driver’s & heads-up display, I would also miss the electric roof blind. Price in the UK EX30 £40,995. #1 Brabus £43,450. The extra £2,455 is well worth it because you get a lot more for your money. ❤
you could have gone for tesla model 3 for those prices...
@@Zedorek I couldn’t live without.. a rear wiper, Android Auto, Apple CarPlay, a drivers display, a heads up display, 360 degree cameras, an indicator stalk, a drive stalk. Even if they were half the price I couldn’t live without most of those features.
im soo happy my model 3 SR 2024, has only 130 wh/km and thats with driving 120kmph for about 100km and lost around 23-25% battery if I remember. 23km is around 4% loss, 1% loss is around 8km. best i had was 127wh/km. going to work is 23km which is 70kmph road and its below or close to 100wh :). Driving Chill tho...
That must been in downhill and with tailwind...
@@bjornnyland Maybe a little bit of tailwind ( altho max wind was 22kmph from SSW. I went up to the south of the country so you can only up upwards. I went from 4m above sea level to 110m
@@bjornnyland Must be the roads over there - In summer in Australia I am at or under 100wh/km at 90km/h on a flat freeway with no wind, and around 120-125 wh/km at 110km/h and that's in my "old" 2023 model 3 not even the new Highland version. My last 1000km average is 95wh/km (50% freeway at 110km/h and 50% city start-stop), my lifetime usage for 26,000km including -5C winter morinings is only 108wh/km with the same highway / city split.
I do a semi regular drive to Melbourne from Sydney in a 2023 RWD Model 3 - my first stop is 397km away from home, 100m elevation rise, 90% is 110km/h freeway - the lowest charge I have arrived with is 12% with rain and 10C, I normally arrive with 16-17% when the road is dry.
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Too expensive
We have to admit that the Chinese are gaining territory in many aspects, including quality. Its a result of a long term vision which European countries lack of
Test the new MY LR RWD plz!!!! volvo is a fail, you dont go anywhere with 250 km range..
EX 30 can only be loved by Volvo fans.
That user interface is a total scam. Screens these days cost nothing and they can't give you an additional one in a PREMIUM brand car.
3:37 seriously though how difficult it to change lanes? Are we breeding a generation of really,really bad drivers? It’s not like the current crop is capable of driving either but at least they have an access to several hundreds of horse power - that’s good right?
Sorry if you feel annoyed. I was just testing a feature of the car.
No range no sales, they just dont get it. Very few will spend big bucks for a city car.
No instrument cluster in front with what looks like smaller screen than 3/Y (From the perspective of the video) that is not even oriented horizontally, that's a big meh. I was really hoping that at least it could give you speed / gear info in front instead of calling Chinese CIA...
A small warning from a Swede. This "Volvo" is built to meet a"low" price and it can show:
- the cheaper version with 51kWh battery (due when the climate is getting warmer..) uses LiFePo+ (lithiumion, iron phosphate) batteries that are historically far worse in the cold than this 69kWh NMC/NCM (nickel mangan cobolt). The claimed improvements for Lifepo4 should tested. They do use less materials from conflict countries so hopefully they perform good enough.
- small 12,3" screen, cheaper than larger ones used in competitors models?
- no OTA updates for any version (it lacks a powerful enough main computer to handle this reliable)
- very, if any, few physical buttons are a safety problem. But cheaper to manufacture.. Navigation to, for example, activate the heated rear window during driving is very complex. Touch buttons work very unpredictable. Very un-Volvo 😢
- the heated steering wheel turns itself off. Randomly or to soon. Bugs, you are the beta tester
- road stability on snow when one pedal mode is active can be dangerous, cruising at highway speeds and letting to of the gas pedal has been said (DN.se journalist) to be unstable. Very un-Volvo 😢
- backseat is very crammed for 170cm+ persons
Volvo HAVE never been good at efficiency. Either its ICE or EVs. The EVs are so so thirsty...
I believe the hype for the Volvo is mainly for how cheap (and good) the entry model is. I’d probably go for the long range mid level model, doubt many will go for the performance version.
The sad part is the fact that Volvo is chinese now… :(
Better than owned by Ford… or defunct. No one remembers SAAB.
@@FrunkensteinVonZipperneck I’d rather buy Ford / Volvo than Geele / Volvo…
I was considering buying an EX30 (I have 90% of fundings needed), but since it’s a Chinese - made car I’ll pass. Sadly…
Now?? Geely Bought Volvo Cars 2010 so it’s been chinese for 14 years.
@@aXimo Crying about how your bigotry makes you feel on multiple ex30 videos.
65kWh battery is a joke for this car . This car needs AWD with 90kWh battery, eco leather seats and then I will pay 45k euro
There is a technical limit to the mass of the battery. The XC40 RWD has an optional 82 kWh battery which kills the driving dynamics in exchange for faster charge times and longer range. MG4 LR has the same trade off. Unless you can install a 90kwh battery in a car this small and make it weigh LESS than it does now it will be undriveable for all but a few. A car the size of a Corolla cross that weighs twice as much and costs three times as much is not a good deal
Terrible car.
357 km with the 90 km/h 😂
Kona Electric 1st gen with almost the same battery capacity did 510 km
What a garbage this Volvo.
Not comparable at all. Kona is only 204 hp fwd and it was a lot warmer during that day. RWD EX30 at 20-25°C should go at least 450 km.
@@bjornnylandwill you test RWD version?
@@bjornnyland In summer in Australia I have physically driven my Model 3 RWD with 57.5kwh usable battery 589km at 91wh/km on a single charge and had 6% remaining when I chickened out trying for 600km - the estimate was -4% at the next available fast charger after that.