You might have ruined your driver!
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- How to adjust your driver settings correctly. If you adjust your driver incorrectly it can have a massive impact on your results. This guide helps you understand your driver settings
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I’m a tinkerer and I have been playing around with adjustable drivers since they came out and I used lead tape before that. Thank you for the explanation for the newbies.
James knows his stuff - great explanation.
Thanks! I agree. Custom fit is the way, but being also tinkerer and off-the-shelf & online buyer, it is good to understand what the different settings do. I changed my TM SIM 9.0 degrees from standard setting to first 8.25 loft and then upright and it does behave very differently and very well. In the process, I manage to improve also my driving. Still the one driving drives the driver, but surely adjustable drivers are a great option for any golfer - whether custom fit or off-the-shelf tinkerer! ;)
I have tinkered with my Callaway Epic driver over the years. The driver was bought from my local pro so semi fitted. When I was struggling with the driver (and most of my game) I needed as much help to avoid a slice so the driver was set up a degree, in a draw setting and with movable weight set to the heel. As my game improved I was gradually able to take out all the settings and change them back to neutral.
Ultimately the biggest change for me has been golf lessons not tinkering with the driver adjustments. When I get around to changing my driver this time I will get properly fit and leave the settings alone
Very clever video to produce Andy ! Great work , be good to see more videos with James now and again. Keep it up pal
Very informative, good points to bring to the table so maybe this will help avoid future headaches 😁
I think the point about if swing changes over time going and getting your club fitting checked before forking out for a new club is the best advice I have heard
Thank you for the video. You confirmed my suspicions. When I decrease the loft on my Ping 410 driver from 9 degree to 8.5 I notice more of a fade to the right. When I increase the loft it’s more of a slight draw. I get it now.
Great explanation James, excellent vid Andy, I do have a tendency to tinker 🥺
I don’t have to worry about that Andy. I keep watching your videos and buy a new driver each year after your rave reviews! All the best, Bill
Great video..Keep up the good work mate
I think the biggest problem with some golfers in adjusting there Driver is buying the correct lofted driver to make the right adjustments to achieve the results they’re looking for .... with so many people picking up golf over the last year and half I’m sure a lager number of them bought clubs off the shelf and used clubs with out getting fit I can see where this could be an issue.... getting properly fit for clubs is the difference between enjoying golf and being frustrated with it ....there is a lot of great clubs that have been released in the last 2 years and not everyone has a perfect swing so don’t always believe the marketing of club manufacturers claims with there products, so go hit and test a range of clubs and get fit you won’t regret it .
Great Video to help people have a better understanding of the adjustments on there clubs 👍
The solution is to write down the settings the tuner prescribed before tinkering with it.
If all else fail , you return to these settings. When tinkering with the loft sleeve, keep the weight constant in neutral and test each setting, keeping measurements until you get the optimum result. Then you can adjust the weights to see what that does to the flight direction.
I treat my driver settings like my home electrics, leave 'em to the experts or pain and misery will follow. Great video, Andy and thank you James for the clear info 👍🏻
Thanks Gents! Good to see by hitting a few balls using Trackman to illustrate the different golfer/ball flight scenarios?
Yes agreed, we will look at this
BTW - my fitter didn’t even give me the spanner :-)
geordieboyjohn for the best!
The Callaway optifit won’t rotate the grip like most of the other manufacturers, so you can play an align. You can also get a “green dot” adaptor which has a flatter lie angle than the standard one. Put a left hand adaptor sleeve in a right hand driver and all of the settings are reversed. Options galore!
The LH adapter in a RH driver doesn’t reverse the settings. While the written number doesn’t match the actual setting when set up that way, it’s still a max of +2 and -1, not -2 and +1.
@@cmpress9656 It does with regards to lie angle/face opened or closed
Yeah the Titleist Surefit and Callaway Optifit are both incredible but the Optifit’s ability to leave the grip position alone is a massive pro.
@@mikemarshall6231 no sir, you’re mistaken. I’ve discussed this with Callaway directly after hearing many people saying what you are. Green dot and red dot are the only after market solutions to obtaining loft/lie settings that aren’t on the factory Optifit.
The thing to remember in the Callaway adjustment is that the two moving sleeves are related. One isn't for loft and the other for draw/neutral bias - you need to use them in combination so even adjusting loft might mean using the other sleeve for loft. It's logical once you realise but there are some good explanations on TH-cam (try searching for Michael's Newton Optifit).
As an epic max owner, thank you for this!
I recently had a pxg custom fit and I was swinging terribly. At the end of the session I was hitting a fairly straight shot, so the fitter did his job. The issue was me. I was basically fit to a club based on how I was swinging at the time. Which will be a common thing and I should have maybe had another fitting. So when my custom fit driver arrived and I was swinging better, I was pushing everything miles right when my usual bad shot is a hook. So I had to undo everything that was set to make the club more neutral. So the ability to change these clubs is perfect as I'd have wasted my money 5 to 10 years ago with fixed hosels etc.
thought this would be about over torqueing and breaking something. if you've been fitted, you certainly can make a note of the setting to be able to go back. that said, it's never a good idea to do something
when you don't have a clue.
Excellent video thanks
This was great, wish it would've included cobra
always have been fitted by James always amazing and wanted to talk the tool off me as he didn't want me to move the settings he was right
If in doubt pop to the range - go to each extreme and hit ten shots - then make your mind up - simple!
And everything in between? 😂
Very useful. I do not like to tinker, but it made for interesting reading. Means that if I am fitted for a 12 degrees driver I shouldnt buy a 10.5 and adjust it up as the lie angle changes and my shot shape will be affected.
Good info for most golfers... Just remember "you are paying to play, not being paid to play". Most of us will have a different swing frequently. Adjustment you make this week, may not work as well next week.
Take a note of current settings with a pic and if it goes tits up just restore original settings. Easy peasy, make sure it's correctly torqued too
So Ping and TM change effective loft,not static loft?
I have a Cobra SpeedZone 9 degree and have a strong fade, its not a slice but my shots are straight to 20 yards right. I presumed lofting mine up would open the face!!!!
I got a Callaway V Series Lefthanded, with a right hand Hosel trying to sort it out is a bit of a nightmare.
I got fit and for me, I took lessons while I got fit because I don't want to mask problems in my delivery by compensating with driver settings. Instead we (my fitter and I) determined that I prefer the look of a slightly open face at address, then we set up the driver to maximize those setting and he taught me how to deliver the ball with those settings. I quickly hid the adjustment tool in my bag and have not touched it since...until about a month ago where I thought i would play around at the range and see if I could improve things. Let me tell you, the slider weights on the driver had a more dramatic affect than the shaft settings. I was able to effectively make a knuckleballer that, 3/10 shots I could bomb and the rest of the time was a worm burner. I do enjoy tinkering, but I think if your going to do that at least video yourself or better yet do it with a pro's help. For me, I hate hooks and prefer a small fade so that is how I am set up.
My new Callaway Apex hybrid didn’t come with any books on the adjustments.
So if I add loft to my Ping driver, then offset the face closing by moving the back weight to fade bias…… looks like I’m heading to the range
Good video. I came across a video called Adjustable Hosel Drivers - How they change Loft, Lie, and Face Angle by the Mobile Club Maker. He does a real good job explaining what the changes do going in to a little more detail than is done here. In can case anyone is interested.
Interesting. Thanks
Day before yesterday I took my driver (2019 Callaway Epic Flash with Project X Green Even Flow Stiff shaft (a medium launch shaft)) for a fitting at Club Champion. My complaint was that my launch angle was too low and my carry distance was way too short. I was open to whatever the fix would be. I was thinking, at the very least, I would move from a medium launch shaft to medium/high or even high. Trackman showed my launch angle was indeed too low and my spin was also too low. I did try several shafts and two heads. However, at the end of the day, the best fit was to change the adapter settings to my driver. The fitter raised the launch and spin to what he thought were good levels. He also suggested I place the club behind the ball just a bit towards the toe side of the club (I was having lots of heal hits). My carry distance went from 195-200 yards to 215-220. My total distance increased from 230-235 to 245-250. Launch went from 10 degrees to 12.8 degrees. Spin went from 1800-2000 to 2400-2600. Also, and I do not know why, my swing speed went from 88/89 mph to 92/93 with a couple at 95/96 mph. My fitter told me he would love to sell me something but there really was not anything he could sell me that would improve on these numbers to any noticeable degree. My response was thank you, I am going to put some $ into lessons. My drive is now maximized for my swing. I'd like to hit it farther and maybe I can learn how to generate more swing speed. I think learning how to increase speed, if possible for me, will be more beneficial than a new driver. Do you have any tips for increasing swing speed? Great video. Thank you.
Been playing with SuperSpeed golf training system. Look into it.
One other. Caveat with adjustable drivers that a lot of people don’t know Is that although an other manufacturers key might well fit your driver, they have differing torque setting between those manufactures and you could well be over or under tightening your head and damaging your shaft sleeve. So always use your manufactures key.
How comes? It seems to me that it’s the screw into the driver’s head which moves it, not the tool you use…
TG I haven't touched the settings on my driver
Interesting. I play off 4 always used ping g30, g, now g425 all Ls tech.
Always assumed bring loft down would bring in the toe of club hooding it slightly, making it draw biased. When in fact its opposite
I did as well until I started watching TXG
@@lindsaynewell6319 cobras new rad system is labeling lower lofts as draw...where as everyone elses tends to open the face. ive always wanted that option. not sure whats going on there. i have the rad x and i want it lower lofted and open face. not really working.
Andy great video
GREAT VIDEO!
Mizuno and Exotic driver adjustments would work for me.
Brilliant 👏 can you do a video with a cobra driver please 🙏
Is Open draw bias?
Got fitted for a callaway epic 9 degree draw changed up to 10 degrees but iv changed it back after a lesson
Always our swing that impacts the greatest
Thanks for that Gents, it was really informative and I'm sure that repeating it for different manufacturers would be equally as beneficial👍
I have only "fiddled" with my Driver neck settings once and it didn't end well. I had a PING G400MAX at the time and I was hitting it too high, so I changed the neck setting to -1deg (which I now know opened the face) and suddenly I turned my fade into a full-blown off the planet SLICE! So I changed the setting back again and have never "fiddled" since.
Cakkaway is the only driver where hosels adjustments don't affect the orientation of the shaft and grip (assuming it is adjusted correctly). The D setting does not close the face. It makes the club more upright. The number settings are for loft adjustments. The N means neutral. The S means standard. My fairways are uppright with standard loft so they are D and S. The standard settings are S for loft and N for lie. As long as you get the correct combination of settings the ring doesn't matter. On some settings the top ring will be loft and on others the bottom ring will be loft. Same for lie. The first priority is having the head hit flat on the ground at impact. Once that is done, adjust direction by moving the weight.
Never taken my setting tool out of the packet. My driver was already set up when I collected it after a fitting, and I’ve never changed it
As it should be, well done Rich
Could you do a Titleist driver custom fit discussion please.
They are so complex in my opinion
@@TheAverageGolfer Sorry, I can't agree! I find the Titleist system the easiest to use. Just look at the Titleist chart for your model and it tells you the settings for the loft and shot shape you want. Couldn't be simpler! 😊👌
Please include Honma TR20 Driver
No one swings the golf club the same way each time. Not even the pros. Keep the driver set at neutral and fix your swing.
Always had the adjustment took on every driver I’ve bought . . . . . never used it. Always had a custom fit, always follow their advice
What about Ben Hogan drivers please
Want confusion, try the Mizuno system
Great stuff, now do Cobra please.
Mizuno gt180 7.5 degrees , middle weight pushed back to assist launch. With the other in the heel......rocket launcher
Excellent as ever gents 👍👍 Jimmy knows his stuff 💪💪
Glad you enjoyed Paul
Good info. Pity he talked about right and left a lot. In this sort of video talking draw and fade and on side and off side would make it easier for us left-handers watching.
On a related note Titleist use the same sleeve for left hand and right hand clubs so you must make sure you look at the correct fitting chart as for instance B4 for RH is 1.5 degrees extra loft and 1.5 closed whereas for LH is 1 degree less loft and 1 open. I made that mistake once.
When I was fitted for my driver and 5 wood the pro said here is you spanner now throw it away , under no circumstances use this unless you come back and see me . Locked safely away in my gun cabinets 😁😁😁
Sound advice!
Great stuff, now do PXG ⚙️
I'm not sure about lie angles... is 60 degrees more upright or flatter than 59 degrees?
Have you ever been custom fit?
It’s the angle between the back of the shaft and the ground when the club is in a playing position. That means 60 is more upright (wider angle between back of shaft and ground), 59 a degree flatter.
@@TheAverageGolfer Maybe relevant to your pending judgement, not relevant to my question. Bubye!
Yea...ummm...no I would not change settings...I would go get fit. I got fit for a PXG 2021 0211 driver. If I feel I need a change to the settings...off to a fitter I go.
If you change away for the spine of the club then you change everything. If your club maker did it right then you should leave it alone. Some don’t spine or weight it.
I have been ‘fitted’. Sadly what we are ALL guilty of, is not representing our ‘usual’ swing when we do this. We ALWAYS try to swing faster and therefore longer to impress the fitter and his machine. When we swing normally and under pressure, we only want to swing 85/90% of max. So, get a driver you like the feel and look of, with correct shaft for your swing speed. Then, sort out the head fitting yourself by tinkering on the range. Fitting for this is totally overrated.
Ruined mine, messed with my head worst driving year ever for me …. It’s now on eBay 😂👋👋👋
😂 at least your honest!
@@TheAverageGolfer 😭
I want to be more than average. Lol
Well, I think you’re assuming too much here. No golfers that I know would ever mess with their driver settings.
Adjusted my PING DRIVER correctly and now hitting it 380 yards. THANK U
Why are we paying extra for a driver with adjustability when if you've been fitted correctly you shouldn't need to adjust it.....just a marketing gimmick.
How does it get fitted correctly in the first place ?? 😂😂
@@TheAverageGolfer fitted drivers have been around a lot longer than adjustable ones.
Paul Wright you’ve lost me Paul
My thoughts exactly Paul. For years they have been selling us adjustable clubs, from driver to 7 wood. At a premium, for that privilege! Now, if we use that tool, (You might have ruined your driver!) it is somehow OUR fault. This reeks of a propaganda piece for the Big 5 Driver companies who no longer wish to offer adjustable clubs solely because it will save them production costs. Thanks for posting this, Paul. Everyone needs to give this some thought.
@@TheAverageGolfer pre adjustable hosel drivers, many had a steel insert in the fixed hosel to allow a fitter to manually bend to adjust loft and lie. Possibly better as could adjust each ndependently of the other. Think TM tour truck also have a modern version with a machine that can do this to new hosels.
its not rocket science,,just regular science
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