DRIVER LOFT TEST & COMPARISON | WHAT DRIVER LOFT SHOULD YOU PLAY?
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- What loft should you play your driver at? Comparison on loft changes.
For this test Thomas hits shots in four settings: S (9*), 10*, 11* & 8* with his actual driver the Callaway Paradym Triple Diamond. The most noticeable changes were spin rate, launch angle and dispersion. This is just one modification you can make to the Callaway Paradym Triple Diamond Driver. Additionally, you can modify the weight screws forward and back to influence the launch profile. Director of Instruction & PGA Professional Thomas Campbell discusses how the loft settings on your driver can affect the distance and direction of your drives.
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Thomas please can you keep doing all your testing with the moderate swing speed player in mind as well, loved it when you would do 90-100mph chs testing. It probably relates more to like 99% of your future audience. Thank you 👍
Yes I can definitely still vary my swing speed up. Thanks for watching - Thomas
Yes please!!!
Great video Thomas. I always enjoyed your videos with Drew. You guys had great chemistry together.
Congratulations on your new position.
I am looking forward to your content.
Thanks for the comment Malcom! I love creating any type of golf content but please let us know what you would like to see! - Thomas
Thomas, for a senior golfer with club head speed of 70mph. Is it possible to gain more distance with a 15 degree two inches shorter driver. Currently playing a 12 degree driver. Any thoughts would be appreciated.
Get fitted and you’ll find out what is best! Buy any driver off the shelf (or any golf club for that matter) and you’ve immediately handicapped yourself.
@@geoffcox9582 Get fitted is the mantra. In theory that sounds good. But you need to be hitting it well and be consistent. We Seniors all know we have our bad days. What happens when you're not at your best on fitting day? Which club to get then? Fwiw, i'm a 9 handicap and have a decent swing with my driver. But i'd hate to pay for a fitting on an off day.
@@melabshier5812 - I got fitted for my new Stealth when hitting it like a bit of a twat. Over the session thought we (as in the fitter and I) knew what would work based off the better shots I was hitting and what trackman was saying. My guy needed 5 balls with my old driver to see what was wrong (high spin on mistrikes, and not great consistency on the better ones) and then the new one was dialling it in over an hour or so. If you can’t hit any decent shots in an hour I suggest you aren’t off 9.
You’d also be a mug to pay for a fitting when in one week the big brands will have fitting days near you for free of charge.
Awesome vid, Thomas! Congrats on the new role. My main suggestion is that no one else is doing sim reviews combined with course reviews. TXG used to get out on the course, but even that was very rare. Most all other fitting channels utilize the sim and/or driving range. However, we all know that the sim and range doesn't always translate to the course because of nerves or other outside factors. Would be great to see clubs in action and how they perform during a round. Or just playing a few holes with WITB at the moment, or get out with a client/student to see how they hit it on course. Obviously, weather permitting in Minnesota. Keep it up
Love the suggestion. I love the outside content too as we have to remember the game is played outside. In Minnesota we are limited to April-October so hang in there and stay with us! - Thomas
Yes please on more on course reviews
I am not bothered about teaching instruction from America its a different game there,
Great to see you doing this. It’s so informative. I’ve instantly subscribed. I fully endorse Yo-Yo Zamola’s comment about catering for moderate swing speeds too. Much as I love watching your swing Thomas, I’d have to 30 years younger to even try it! Keep up the good work.
Don't forget slower swing speed testing for us mortals.
Appreciate the feedback! Yes I will be able to provide some slower speed testing as requested! - Thomas
I've been wondering for the past 2-3 years when you were going to break out and start your own channel - I have always liked the way you do presentation, not only on fitting but instruction as well.
I have watched a lot of club fitters on TH-cam, but in my opinion you're the best; I wish I could get close enough to you to have you do my fitting this year - I need a whole bag fitting to start my adventure in joining the Senior Amateur Tour this year.
I watch some of your progress working toward your Pro Card Qual. and I really enjoyed watching your progress and it helped me sort through some things myself.
Good Fortune to you Thomas in the days and years to come - I'm very excited to you succeed; and, hopefully, see you open your own shop.
and remember, "obstacles are what you see when you loose sight of the goal"
Congratulations on your new channel. You have a new sub. Lots of information here! Music is a little loud. I would rather hear the crack of the driver. 👍🏼⛳️🏌🏽♂️
I understand changing loft makes a difference, but when you change the loft on these modern drivers you're also changing face angle and lie angle, so my question is which is more important, face angle or lie angle to keep it straight or a little draw. Like watching keep up the good work.
Dude, your swing speed of 100+ doesn't help us mere mortals at all !!!! Most of us can reach 90 something and our wonderful Seniors 80 our less !!
Advice! Lose the crappy elevator music. Golfers like to hear how the clubs sound.
Appreciate the feedback! Thanks for watching our very first video. - Thomas
Congratulations on the new channel and good luck. maybe tweek the music
I’ve always changed my loft depending on conditions. Like on super windy days i like a little help keeping that ball flight lower. Also in the dead of summer I like a lower ball flight because it gets hella roll out. I might chose to have a lot higher loft the there are doglegs where you can cut corners over tall trees or drivable par 4s it has a little more help staying on that green if by the grace of god I hit it. Is this bad practice? 😂 I can already hear people saying I should be able to manipulate ball flight without adjusting the club. What ever help I can get, I’ll take
I have 6 in attack Angle, 106mph but still cant spin under 34-3700. Any help?
Ty youtube algo, nice to see u again Thomas. Subbed!
Was at a launch monitor session with g430max alta CB and tour chrome 2.0 stiff and tsr2 hzdus 6.0. Was getting better numbers with the g430 at 9deg (mid 2000 spin vs 3000 10.5deg) but tsr2 9deg spun much too low 1600-1800.
So diff model head loft I needed was diff. But to be honest neither ping shaft suited me, face contact was low heel to high toe.
Just by watching my ball launch, I’ve noticed I add a lot of dynamic loft to my driver. Usually launches above 110 feet at 9 degrees. Not sure if it was the launch or the spin number but it didn’t carry like I wanted it to. I started by delofting the club. Moved down to 8 degrees. Then went with a low spinning ball. Now it launches about 100 feet. Sometimes less. Ball is carrying about 15 yards further now
It's probably spin. You can launch up to 17 degrees before the launch angle starts losing distance. Most people can't do that without too much spin though.
@@-Thunder guess I need to get on a launch monitor and check some numbers
It would be interesting to see the standard (meaning, not triple diamond) head @ 9* vs your triple diamond head @ 10*.
Enjoyed your knowledge on the different types of loft on the driver…thank you.
Thomas great to see you in another venue , Thomas you'd have a 4.8 smash factor with a Hockey stick, lol the most efficient Golfer I've ever seen, incredible your ability to get then out there 30 yards apart, Thanks Thomas I definitely subscribed, looking forward to a Great Year!! Be Safe!!
Great video … I liked your previous videos too. I feel like you could benefit from a trusty sidekick with a mediocre game (at best) and I’d like to volunteer for that role.
I’ll definitely be making a pilgrimage to Swing Lab and hopefully pick up a few strokes in the process! Good luck to you!
PS, please consider opening a satellite facility in La Crosse, WI or even Rochester, MN.
Hello Thomas, I'm so glad I found your channel, I enjoyed your videos and testing on second swing channel , I watch all your club testings Before I make a decision on what I'm gonna buy. Keep the good content coming !!!!
Love your stuff. How can 😅 translate your swing speed and results to more pedestrian swing? Glad to have found this video today!
I was wondering why I haven't seen Thomas at 2nd Swing lately. I'm subbing just because of him.
Do I hear a hint of a kiwi accent?
Yes. Definitely only a hint left. I lived in NZ till I was 20. 17 years later the accent has faded. - Thomas
Good stuff, great video thank you.
Sorry mate , you are not as reliable as a machine
Thanks Thomas but what about us mere mortals?
Congratulations on your new position and channel. Loved your previous work, I’m excited to see your new channel/content.
Thanks for watching. I am glad you found my new channel - Thomas
I play the extra same driver and have a swing speed of 108 I’m definitely knocking it up to 10 degrees and setting it to draw bias after watching this great video
Thanks
Great video as always Thomas.
I have heard there is a point in low swing speed maybe
Is adjusting up to a particular loft the same as hitting a driver with the higher loft? For example a 9 degree +1 vs a 10 degree driver? I'm mainly referring to Callaway drivers with adjustable loft and lie.
Good video. Gets a sub from me. I do have a couple of suggestions. First, I'd like to see a little more analysis. Most significantly, why was the spin at 10 a hundred lower than at 9, and three hundred lower than 11? Dynamic loft and spin loft was almost the same between 10 and 11, but there is more than a 10% spin difference. What was going on there? Second, could we have some more close ups of the data? It's hard to read when it's in the background. Third, when you are hitting, dial the music level down a bit, please. It wasn't especially enjoyable music, and it was mixed so that it was the dominant sound. A balance between camera mic noise (i.e., ball strike sound, shaft in motion sound, etc.) would make the video a little more enjoyable.
But please understand I'm saying that in the spirit of constructive criticism. I liked the video.
Excellent video. As I remember just a couple years back you were hitting the Callaway Epic Max LS and the tour edge Exotics C721 drivers 330+ yards. One went 339. This driver works well but it almost appears the older drivers went further? But anyway it all makes sense and certainly 10° is the magic number for your drives that’s where you got the best results. This is very interesting
How about average golfers?
Great Content Thomas! Followed you here from 2nd Swing, you’re analysis was always my favorite.
This is interesting information but it does not account for the wind on the golf course. We need empirical data that compares trajectory and spin rate in a variety of wind conditions. Also, what happens when the ball hits a soggy fairway or a hard fairway. The roll is perhaps more significant than any other factor! Think about it.
I turned my 12* G425 Max to 10.5 and hit it almost as far as any driver setup I have going from 9* to 7.5*. On downwind holes the 12* goes further. Loft up for better control and more fairways.
TC, was wondering why I hadn't seen you on Second Swing....this explains it. Nice to see you again bud.
Your subscribe button has a typo in it. Preformance
Great vid. Thx
With more weight in the back and give you more spin versus change in the loft
Great video Thomas, good luck with the channel, I am sure it will be interesting!
I wonder if results would have been different in hands of higher handicap, slower swing golfer?
Great video, Thomas. What are your thoughts on the Paradym Driver. Is it the club to beat this season?
Doesn't it close the club face slightly when you increase loft using the hosel?
It’s been really cool if you have added wait in the back to show the difference in spin
I watched you and Drew for quite sometime, enjoyed all your videos. Great instruction and knowledge.
Best of luck on this new gig.
Will be following.
God I missed Thomas’ swing. Hoping to see some good in depth instructional videos and some technical videos about how lie angle affects swing path and launch direction
I'm so glad I found your channel Thomas, That was a great review on Driver loft , Please test the tour edge C723 driver , I wanna see you hit some bombs like you did with the C-721 , I haven't seen you test a club that good since that video , I have a feeling this new C723 is gonna be a bomber !!!
We are glad you found the channel as well! There is something about those Tour Edge drivers in my hands... Great suggestion - Thomas
My swing speed is currently around 100mph. What would be the best loft for that SS?
Also, congrats on your new gig. You were awesome on 2nd Swing & I know you’ll be even better here since we’ll get more of your knowledge than before. Great video.
A lot is going to depend on your angle of attack. If you hit up on the ball possibly less loft, but to give you a definitive answer I would need to learn more about the spin & your landing angle with the driver. Thanks for watching - Thomas
I wondered where you went. Glad I found you.
Thomas I love your swing. What shaft are you using? What ball?
Graphite Design Tour AD XC 6X in the driver. I play the Callaway Chrome Soft X but for this test I was using the ProV1x RCT ball. - Thomas
Congrats on the new job, just surprised you didn't try and get a job somwhere warmer!
Minnesota is home... for now I would need to convince my wife to move. Great place April-October the rest of the months I need to jump on a flight to see grass. Glad you found my new channel - Thomas
What type of shaft?
GREAT REVIEW...
Great video
Thomas is back! Best wishes on your new channel.
Thank you. I am glad you found us. - Thomas
Stop now
I adjusted from 10.5 to 9 at the simulator and I did gain about 4-5yds yards carry and 4-5 total distance.
That's what we like to hear! Did you notice any difference in the curve or your dispersion? - Thomas
@@swinglabperformancegolf not that so could tell. I was actually playing a course with a buddy and on a whim decided to lower the loft down to 9* on a par 5. The data I got off the shot only displayed for a few seconds but the only thing I noticed was the yardage gain.
Best of luck on your new endeavor Thomas.
Thank You! Thanks for watching. Very excited about growing this new channel, tell all your friends 😁 - Thomas
Would love to see a lesson on here tackling a common issue or something similar
Stay tuned & please let us know what topics you would like to see. - Thomas
Great to see you Thomas. I enjoy your swings. Keep it going sir!!
Thank you! Keep watching for more content coming soon! - Thomas
Congratulations on the new channel, Thomas. This is super interesting. I have an Epic Flash lofted up to 11* and the difference is night and day. Too many people have egos which hurt their game. Even Rahm (no1 strokes gained off the tee for 3 yrs) uses 11.3*.
when was he no1 SG OTT for 3 yrs? im not seeing it
Yeah, but the reason Rahm uses so much loft is very different than the typical slow swinging amateur 😂😂😂
Awesome video! I think I need less loft on my driver 🤣
Thanks Michael. If it is high and spinny potentially! Remember it's not always about distance though consider the dispersion as well. - Thomas
Congrats on the new venture!
Thank You! Thanks for watching. - Thomas
Thomas Have you changed jobs?
Yes. I am the director of instruction at Swing Lab Performance Golf. We just opened this month. Excited to continue to bring all the golf content you need on this channel - Thomas
@@swinglabperformancegolf Good luck.
Welcome back man!
Thanks for watching. Glad you were able to find the new channel - Thomas
Great to see you back on TH-cam, I’ve missed your reviews on the new releases this last few weeks, Chris, UK
Wondered why I hadn't seen you on the other channel for a while.
I tried going from a 9° to an 8° recently and couldn't believe how much harder it was to get the ball in tha air. So promptly switched back. I didn't try going to 10° though so that may be next. But with the fairways hard and fast here at the moment. I might wait till the winter! 😉
Nice to see Thomas back on youtube!
Thanks for watching Jetro. We are excited to grow this channel and bring you golf content. Please let us know what you would like us to film - Thomas
Where is your accent from? V. unique
Hi Thomas it’s Great to see you again 👍, just needed to say that 😁, Was hoping to see you testing again👍, hope it goes well 👌,it took me some time to find your channel, Good luck with your new venture, Dickey 9hcp 76year senior golfer
Hi Dick I am glad you found us. I have always enjoyed your questions and comments. Let us know what you would like to see. The channel will lean more instructional but we will throw in all types of golf content. Please tell all your golf friends to subscribe! - Thomas
@@swinglabperformancegolf Hi Thomas loved your Video 👍, (like seeing you flushing the Driver) with surprise’s results (who would have guessed 10deg was best)🤔,was thinking I learnt most watching your speed stick training Videos, & speed training with you each week built up my swing speed from 69 to 79mph, (that was 2years ago) Still use the mid speed stick for loosing up before playing & maintain my swing speed with mini speed sessions 😁,Think it would be Great to follow thr’o training again from Week 1, Would love to see a proper test on new light weight Drivers at slower speeds vs standard weight Drivers (& see if we gain more swing speed & Distance) Thanks for your reply it’s great to have you Back, Dickey 9hcp 76year senior golfer (messaged my son your back) He’s Delighted
8 degree paradym 💎💎💎 in my bag