I got this stick yesterday and it's my first arcade stick. I got it for my Nintendo's Switch and Chromebook mostly. Hands down this is great. Solid build quality and easy setup. Would recommend! Thanks Lon!
There is a bit of learning curve isn't there? I love 8Bitdo controllers. I have the S30 pro the M30 and the Arcade Stick. I love the quality but it doesn't work as well as I thought i would.
Try rotating the gate 15 degrees to make a Diamond shape. That’s what I did with my Qanba stick and it plays a much better game of Pac-Man. I found the octagonal gate makes 4-way games play worse.
@@SoukaDeezNutz It definitely depends on the brand of stick and type of stick, so you might have to research what you have first to see if it uses standard parts.
I have one of these. Very nice stick. Tried modding it with a Seimitsu LS-40-01, but it was not possible to re-assemble the stick after installing that. That is with the SE plate. I have ordered an SS plate to see if it will fit with that.
You can also turn a Square Gate (that came with 8BitDo Arcade Stick) into a Diamond Gate for 4 Directional Games like PAC-MAN as example. All you do is take a Square Gate out. Push the Square towards to you. Then twist the Square until it snap back in as a Diamond Gate. Then attach your new Diamond Gate back to your Joystick. Then you’re all set!
UPDATE: The Square Gate that came with it is NOT rotatable! Which means you can’t turn Square Gate into Diamond Gate. You just have to buy a different Square Gate that are rotatable.
I didn't even think of trying that, but I do have an ogx360 connected to my Xbox. Not sure exactly how useful a stick will be for it, but cool option nonetheless!
I replaced my stick with an LS-32 and Seimitsu silent buttons. It's brilliant and quickly become my favourite stick. Excellent for Switch shmups or for use with NES/SNES/Genesis Bluetooth 8BitDo adapters.
Does it work with 8bitdo 2.4gz megadrive/genesis, snes and nes controller receivers and will it work in 2.4Gz with the Analogue Duo and Analogue pocket with the dock ? No answer about that.
Please do a follow up video with the changed gate, I've never worked on fightsticks before, and while I'm sure I could find it out after reading about others sticks and such(I couldn't find anything exactly about it on this one), I love your videos any ways!
Looks really great, the switch between analog stick and d-pad is really useful. I have an older Hori wireless arcade stick and the latest windows updates have borked it (along with a few other devices that emulate X360)
GREAT! I even commented on your other 8bitdo stick video hoping you'd do this. This stick is so AMAZING. I love it. Also amazing I can change out the buttons with the top end ones from other makers. I'm getting a MiSTeR for myself for the holidays, and this will make it SO good for all it's arcade cores, and even most console cores. I've been using it for emulation on PC and it's just amazing, even been helping shave off time from some of my speedruns even.
I don't really know anything about custom stick modding, but is there a mod that could make the stick analog or is that too different for the boards in this one?
Does it work well with retroarch on the shield? They don't advertise the android compatability anymore... I like the Mayflash 500 elite. But the wireless option is a game changer.. My son has a switch also..Maybe I'll just get both..Great video btw...
I love 8bitdo. I have so many controllers from them now. I don't even use them all. I just love the build quality. I have 2 sn30 pro + controllers, 1 sn30 pro, an sn30 pro wired, 2 zero 2's, a lite, an m30, a tg16, and the usb adapter. Gonna grab this now.
Hi, i just received this as a gift. I have a question, is the control stick supposed to have a free 'twirl' to it? what I mean is, my joystick seems to have unlimited 'twirl', that is, the ball can rotate 360' quite easily without registering a directional input. if i push the stick i get easy and perfect movement, but I wasn't expecting the actual control stick ball to have this free travel. What do you think is it a faulty unit or is this how its supposed to be?
As I understand X-input is strictly a PC standard and has nothing to do with Xbox consoles themselves, even though many xbox controllers support it. So apple supporting the XB1 standard does nothing for x-input devices. Ironically apple does support x-input as an interface for accesibility switches and I have gotten 8bitdo controllers to work with some apple devices this way.
Been checking out fight sticks to go with my WIP retropie. Picked up an 8bitdo SN30 and its quite good. However it kinda depends what you are playing and other times I prefer my DS4. This one looks like a good option and I do prefer mid-range stuff over cheapos or overpriced. If it was just a little bigger (but not a 2-player tankstick) to include a trackball + spinner life would be good. Saw the comment below about American vs Japanese hardware and the force required to move the American ones. Well, it was probably done that way because we Americans tend to be more abusive and forceful, and less about finesse.
A lot of the issues with the hardware that he is experiencing is the difference between American and Japanese arcade Hardware. This stick uses standardized Japanese Hardware where is Americans are used to and grew up with a different standard for Hardware in there arcades and so for many Americans getting these Japanese parts takes a lot of muscle memory breaking
Wired connection doesn't work with my Nintendo switch , tried both the supplied USB-C cable and another that I use with other controllers in both ports on my dock but no joy it never got recognised by my switch, I'm on system 12.0.0 the paltry manual mentions needing to be on system 3.0.0 or higher. Also the USB-C socket is very poorly positioned on this it's recessed so deeply you need a child's hands, tweezers or nose pliers to easily get the cable in or out- up there with the Atari STs joyspet ports in terms of dumb design decisions. The wireless connection works fine but that's not really why I bought this though.
The best part is the 2.4 Bluetooth connection which is amazing, the other is the easy modding once you open it up! Issues as follows: No lock button on the unit. The inside parts used are awful. The joystick is very cheap, no need to swap anything out, remove the whole joystick as has a ton of movement that is not needed, it's so shocking bad. It feels very loose. Every button is very cheap and nasty. The rubber feet underneath the unit is not enough to hold the unit firm, the unit still moves about, my feet were also not even level. Why only 2 macro buttons?, that makes no sense. I could see the unit moving when you were playing Pacman. It looks better than it is to be honest. Its plays as well as cheap 30 dollar units on Amazon. But with upgrades it's a decent enough unit that I enjoy.
I was hoping to see the difference in latency between bluetooth/2.4/wired, since this is one of the few (only?) sticks that does that. Good review otherwise. Octagonal gate is a good compromise for older 4 way style games and everything else. I'd love to see that follow up.
I have found the difference to be within the margin of error of my testing methodology with my computers here. Every Bluetooth host controller is different too so latency will vary widely.
@@LonSeidman I could watch 8bitdo reviews all day. Love their stuff, and own a bunch of their controllers. Build quality that is every bit as good as a 1st party controller. I'm really interested in seeing some mods done to this, starting with the octagonal gate.
Gah. Pac-Man (specifically, Ms. Pac-Man & Pac-Man: CE) is the whole reason I’d be interested in this! 🤣 Here’s hoping we get that follow-up video with the mods!
You played sum Ai Carumba Lon? ROFL /jk Ikaruga - Ee Kah Ruh Gah Nice Arcade Stick... I'm not the target market for this as I don't really play many games that would go well with an Arcade Stick, but still tempted just because 8bitdo. xD I'm also a bit curious about a new competitor that showed up, mostly because I'm more used to the XBox 360 button positioning, but 8bitdo just has more experience at this point, and they never seen to disappoint. What was the name? PDP Little Wireless controller I think. Not sure if you've seen it Lon... also not sure if it's of interest at all - I think it's like, one of those portable gamepads rather than a full sized thing. Just to let you know. o/
It hurts my eyes when you use the Monkey Grip for a balltop kind of joystick. That grip kind of works for Battops but it's super awkward on a Sanwa/Seimitsu kind of stick. You should put the joystick between your ring and middle finger and wrap around the joystick with middle, index, thumb. Or others do it between their Pinky and Ring fingers, same thing wrap around the joystick with the rest of the fingers. Grabbing the joystick with 5 fingers from above while riding the gate is just horrible. omg.. It really hurts me people still doing this in 2020 to sanwa style sticks.
@@destructodisk9074 absolutely but. 1: you never need to ride the gate from corner to corner, that will hurt your arm and wrist in the long run. 2: that's the point, he wasn't comfortable with the square restrictor. Instead of learning how to grab the joystick with a different grip, he straight up blamed the square restrictor to buy an octagonal one. At the end of the day you can buy a circular/no gate restrictor it doesn't matter, you NEVER ride the gate, it's has to be refined movement, the microswitches need very short distance to activate, it doesn't need to hit the corner of the gate to get the micro response. It's slow, you don't feel the microswitches when riding the gate, you hurt yourself, and you are applying 5x the force needed to use the joystick when riding the gate. People do it because American arcade sticks (HAPP, IL Lorenzo, Euro Happ) had a lot of resistance and you had to apply a ridiculous amount of strength by using your entire arm to move the thing. Not all joysticks are the same. It's very close minded to try the same thing again and again.
@@gustavosoto4607 I think it's just a case of unfamiliarity. I don't think lon or most people who bought 8bitdo arcade sticks are that fighting games, or at least not their go to stick because aside the gimmicky stuff, there's way better options out there.
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That Change the Mode = Change the Button Names is Brilliant absolutely awesome
I got this stick yesterday and it's my first arcade stick. I got it for my Nintendo's Switch and Chromebook mostly. Hands down this is great. Solid build quality and easy setup. Would recommend! Thanks Lon!
There is a bit of learning curve isn't there? I love 8Bitdo controllers. I have the S30 pro the M30 and the Arcade Stick. I love the quality but it doesn't work as well as I thought i would.
I'm wondering if you can fit the Raspberry Pi inside the case of the controller?
Try rotating the gate 15 degrees to make a Diamond shape. That’s what I did with my Qanba stick and it plays a much better game of Pac-Man. I found the octagonal gate makes 4-way games play worse.
Gates come in 2-Way, 4-Way and 8-Way/Open, check out Ultimarc for their Auto Gate Changer/Solenoid
Diamond gates are best for Pac-Man
Great advice! Would this work with any arcade stick or only specific brands?
@@SoukaDeezNutz It definitely depends on the brand of stick and type of stick, so you might have to research what you have first to see if it uses standard parts.
@@MrJaz8088 Do you know if Ultimarc's work with this? Their 360 one seems to be USB-C. Sorry I'm new to sticks.
Now only if we can get Tekken 7 on Switch. The gamepad works pretty good for 2D fighting games on the system
Tekken is a 3D fighter
Does it work when covered in pizza grease, to get the authentic arcade experience?
@@TakingOverTheNet 9 months to go.
@@TakingOverTheNet can you get someone to flick cigarette ash all over it ..... and have a few ash burns too.
I have one of these. Very nice stick. Tried modding it with a Seimitsu LS-40-01, but it was not possible to re-assemble the stick after installing that. That is with the SE plate. I have ordered an SS plate to see if it will fit with that.
Please do give us an update sir.
@@MichaelHarto "us". yes sir!
You can also turn a Square Gate (that came with 8BitDo Arcade Stick) into a Diamond Gate for 4 Directional Games like PAC-MAN as example.
All you do is take a Square Gate out. Push the Square towards to you. Then twist the Square until it snap back in as a Diamond Gate. Then attach your new Diamond Gate back to your Joystick. Then you’re all set!
UPDATE: The Square Gate that came with it is NOT rotatable! Which means you can’t turn Square Gate into Diamond Gate. You just have to buy a different Square Gate that are rotatable.
FYI: I got it working on my og xbox
How?
@@megamix5403 look up "ogx360"
I didn't even think of trying that, but I do have an ogx360 connected to my Xbox. Not sure exactly how useful a stick will be for it, but cool option nonetheless!
I replaced my stick with an LS-32 and Seimitsu silent buttons. It's brilliant and quickly become my favourite stick. Excellent for Switch shmups or for use with NES/SNES/Genesis Bluetooth 8BitDo adapters.
9:35 i have never heard ikaruga pronounced this way, thanks for the chuckle Lon :)
Pronounced Ick A Ruu Ga, I had a chuckle too
Does it work with 8bitdo 2.4gz megadrive/genesis, snes and nes controller receivers and will it work in 2.4Gz with the Analogue Duo and Analogue pocket with the dock ? No answer about that.
Please do a follow up video with the changed gate, I've never worked on fightsticks before, and while I'm sure I could find it out after reading about others sticks and such(I couldn't find anything exactly about it on this one), I love your videos any ways!
if it can switch between xinput and dinput whats keeping it from being able to connect to an xbox or playstation
Should be none
@@Fullmetal.Alchemist x-input & d-input IS the drivers
Seems like a very fine stick for under $100. I almost wanna get one even though I don't need it.
Looks really great, the switch between analog stick and d-pad is really useful. I have an older Hori wireless arcade stick and the latest windows updates have borked it (along with a few other devices that emulate X360)
Good review. I have a question.
If I wanted to change to an octagonal gate, do you know which one fits in there with the stock stick?
GREAT! I even commented on your other 8bitdo stick video hoping you'd do this. This stick is so AMAZING. I love it. Also amazing I can change out the buttons with the top end ones from other makers. I'm getting a MiSTeR for myself for the holidays, and this will make it SO good for all it's arcade cores, and even most console cores. I've been using it for emulation on PC and it's just amazing, even been helping shave off time from some of my speedruns even.
hello how do you manage to charge it? I have updated the firmware and it still does not work. The stick does not recharge. Thank you
does it work with the 8bitdo retro recievers?
as ive not seen a firmware update for it
Hi would that arcade stick be a good arcade stick for a beginner that never used or owned one before
love your background setup
I've never heard anyone pronounce "Ikaruga" like how you did lol.
Sounds like Bart Simpson saying "Ay Carumba!"
I don't really know anything about custom stick modding, but is there a mod that could make the stick analog or is that too different for the boards in this one?
Lon, how does this compare to the older 8bitdo n30 arcade stick you reviewed a while ago?
The controls feel similar but this new one is much better - heavier, better built, better compatibility, etc.
👍thanks, good to know.
Btw, you may interested in checking out the Dynalink android tv 4k currently $29.
Does it work well with retroarch on the shield? They don't advertise the android compatability anymore... I like the Mayflash 500 elite. But the wireless option is a game changer.. My son has a switch also..Maybe I'll just get both..Great video btw...
I love 8bitdo. I have so many controllers from them now. I don't even use them all. I just love the build quality.
I have 2 sn30 pro + controllers, 1 sn30 pro, an sn30 pro wired, 2 zero 2's, a lite, an m30, a tg16, and the usb adapter.
Gonna grab this now.
feels like 8bitdo controllers are collectibles ! Got several of them and I truly appreciate how they add to the gaming experience.
Will it work with batocera os or retropie? In pc
Do this work with snes/nes 8bitdo receiver with the Bluetooth mode ?
I know it doesn't compatible with iPhone and iPad, but what about MacBook (MacOS)? Thanks for replying
Hi, i just received this as a gift. I have a question, is the control stick supposed to have a free 'twirl' to it? what I mean is, my joystick seems to have unlimited 'twirl', that is, the ball can rotate 360' quite easily without registering a directional input. if i push the stick i get easy and perfect movement, but I wasn't expecting the actual control stick ball to have this free travel. What do you think is it a faulty unit or is this how its supposed to be?
I just got this to work on iPadOS and it works great 😊
Just got this to use on the Pi. I'll have to keep an eye out for that parts swap video. 🤔
Are you able to use the trigger buttons on your pi? I can't and I'm not sure if it's specific to my setup.
@@sronnie I haven't tried setting it up yet. Gotta check that out.
@@sronnie if you remap LT and RT to LS and RS it works
I'm having issues with the LEDs. They only turn on for switch mode, and the don't turn on for xinput. What do you suggest I do to fix this?
Return for a replacement
Does Analogues products work with the Arcade Stick? :)
Yes
Nice looking. Would it work for the Streets of rage 4 PC game?
Most of 8bitdos controllers support xinput so yeah
Just watch the video!!!!!
As I understand X-input is strictly a PC standard and has nothing to do with Xbox consoles themselves, even though many xbox controllers support it. So apple supporting the XB1 standard does nothing for x-input devices.
Ironically apple does support x-input as an interface for accesibility switches and I have gotten 8bitdo controllers to work with some apple devices this way.
Been checking out fight sticks to go with my WIP retropie. Picked up an 8bitdo SN30 and its quite good. However it kinda depends what you are playing and other times I prefer my DS4. This one looks like a good option and I do prefer mid-range stuff over cheapos or overpriced. If it was just a little bigger (but not a 2-player tankstick) to include a trackball + spinner life would be good.
Saw the comment below about American vs Japanese hardware and the force required to move the American ones. Well, it was probably done that way because we Americans tend to be more abusive and forceful, and less about finesse.
9:34 "EYEKUHRUHGUH"
Lol
Hey, hello, does it work with MacBook Pro ?! Thanks
will it work on a Xbox series X
A stand alone pcb set would be pretty cool.
8BitDo Arcade will work with 8BitDo Retro Receiver in Switch Mode.
A lot of the issues with the hardware that he is experiencing is the difference between American and Japanese arcade Hardware. This stick uses standardized Japanese Hardware where is Americans are used to and grew up with a different standard for Hardware in there arcades and so for many Americans getting these Japanese parts takes a lot of muscle memory breaking
Doesn't say on the box its compatible with Android on the box. Are your sure that it is?
Very cool! It looks like the NES joystick and it's modd-able, sign me up! Thnx Lon.
i dont even need 1 but i want it for that reason lol... as soon as i saw it i was like o snap... looks exactly like that old NES stick
Very informative, thank you for your review.
I will likely actually buy this now
Taking this bad boy to a Smash Bros. tournament
Wired connection doesn't work with my Nintendo switch , tried both the supplied USB-C cable and another that I use with other controllers in both ports on my dock but no joy it never got recognised by my switch, I'm on system 12.0.0 the paltry manual mentions needing to be on system 3.0.0 or higher. Also the USB-C socket is very poorly positioned on this it's recessed so deeply you need a child's hands, tweezers or nose pliers to easily get the cable in or out- up there with the Atari STs joyspet ports in terms of dumb design decisions.
The wireless connection works fine but that's not really why I bought this though.
Imagine playing Part Time UFO with this. It would be like a claw game.
Probably better must use for Mini PC to me, i think. Not only the Raspberry Pi.
that sweatshirt looks comfortable
has anyone had a problem with this thing bricking after updating the software?
The best part is the 2.4 Bluetooth connection which is amazing, the other is the easy modding once you open it up! Issues as follows: No lock button on the unit. The inside parts used are awful. The joystick is very cheap, no need to swap anything out, remove the whole joystick as has a ton of movement that is not needed, it's so shocking bad. It feels very loose. Every button is very cheap and nasty. The rubber feet underneath the unit is not enough to hold the unit firm, the unit still moves about, my feet were also not even level. Why only 2 macro buttons?, that makes no sense. I could see the unit moving when you were playing Pacman. It looks better than it is to be honest. Its plays as well as cheap 30 dollar units on Amazon. But with upgrades it's a decent enough unit that I enjoy.
I was hoping to see the difference in latency between bluetooth/2.4/wired, since this is one of the few (only?) sticks that does that. Good review otherwise. Octagonal gate is a good compromise for older 4 way style games and everything else. I'd love to see that follow up.
I have found the difference to be within the margin of error of my testing methodology with my computers here. Every Bluetooth host controller is different too so latency will vary widely.
@@LonSeidman thanks for responding! It must be really good if they are close enough/within your margin of error between the connection types.
@@LonSeidman I could watch 8bitdo reviews all day. Love their stuff, and own a bunch of their controllers. Build quality that is every bit as good as a 1st party controller.
I'm really interested in seeing some mods done to this, starting with the octagonal gate.
Thank you so much for this awesome review.
Gah. Pac-Man (specifically, Ms. Pac-Man & Pac-Man: CE) is the whole reason I’d be interested in this! 🤣 Here’s hoping we get that follow-up video with the mods!
It's on the list! I think it might be possible to rotate the gate to make it more of a four-way stick.
That was the same reason I was thinking of getting this is for Maze Games like Pac Man and Ms Pac Man. I guess icn save the 95 bucks (after taxes)
It also works well with the steam deck.
Thanks for video! Great review
I love the look!
Has anyone ever use this with smah bros.
You played sum Ai Carumba Lon? ROFL /jk
Ikaruga - Ee Kah Ruh Gah
Nice Arcade Stick... I'm not the target market for this as I don't really play many games that would go well with an Arcade Stick, but still tempted just because 8bitdo. xD
I'm also a bit curious about a new competitor that showed up, mostly because I'm more used to the XBox 360 button positioning, but 8bitdo just has more experience at this point, and they never seen to disappoint.
What was the name? PDP Little Wireless controller I think. Not sure if you've seen it Lon... also not sure if it's of interest at all - I think it's like, one of those portable gamepads rather than a full sized thing.
Just to let you know. o/
U need a 4way for pac that using a 8way
Hi lon the 8bit do is nice and super cool everyone should get this one right Lon your awesome Lon and keep up the good work 😃and stay safe Lon😎😎😎
people say they want an octo gate until they get one and then they go back to a square gate lol
Aykahragah
They've pretty much thought of everything.
can you play animal crossing on this arcade stick?
Nice
It hurts my eyes when you use the Monkey Grip for a balltop kind of joystick. That grip kind of works for Battops but it's super awkward on a Sanwa/Seimitsu kind of stick.
You should put the joystick between your ring and middle finger and wrap around the joystick with middle, index, thumb. Or others do it between their Pinky and Ring fingers, same thing wrap around the joystick with the rest of the fingers. Grabbing the joystick with 5 fingers from above while riding the gate is just horrible. omg.. It really hurts me people still doing this in 2020 to sanwa style sticks.
@@destructodisk9074 absolutely but.
1: you never need to ride the gate from corner to corner, that will hurt your arm and wrist in the long run.
2: that's the point, he wasn't comfortable with the square restrictor.
Instead of learning how to grab the joystick with a different grip, he straight up blamed the square restrictor to buy an octagonal one.
At the end of the day you can buy a circular/no gate restrictor it doesn't matter, you NEVER ride the gate, it's has to be refined movement, the microswitches need very short distance to activate, it doesn't need to hit the corner of the gate to get the micro response.
It's slow, you don't feel the microswitches when riding the gate, you hurt yourself, and you are applying 5x the force needed to use the joystick when riding the gate. People do it because American arcade sticks (HAPP, IL Lorenzo, Euro Happ) had a lot of resistance and you had to apply a ridiculous amount of strength by using your entire arm to move the thing. Not all joysticks are the same. It's very close minded to try the same thing again and again.
I want to put and I.L joystick to use the stick this side i feel better with and American Joystick or Europeand and that Japanese Style
@@gustavosoto4607 I think it's just a case of unfamiliarity. I don't think lon or most people who bought 8bitdo arcade sticks are that fighting games, or at least not their go to stick because aside the gimmicky stuff, there's way better options out there.
@@destructodisk9074 This is the correct answer here.
I really hate people like you.
8BitDo Arcade Stick for Switch, Windows, Raspberry Pi ...
I dunno. I'm just not into how it looks aesthetically. It's like it tries to be classic, but misses the mark.
That sucks, not good for Pac Man, That was the main reason for thinking about getting this controller because D-Pads suck for Maze Games.
It’s a shame it doesn’t work with iOS devices
It's pronounced dew; not doe.
So it's nintendew?
@@MichaelHarto I'm not seeing the correlation.
@@inputfunny their whole lineup originally mimics nintendo controllers until they got cease and desist by nintendo. Or should i say "nintendew"?
Bloody ugly tho would look a lot better if the connection controls were on the side
Ipad iphone junk