@@AxiomAmnesia Most of the time. My mom didn't watch me watching it because of all the cussing, but had no problem with me watching Robocop and Terminator 🤣🤣🤣
@@TreyStation64 LOL I'm older than you, but I remember watching extreme horror with the nudity, cussing, and violence on HBO and other cable channels when I was a kid. LOL I was a latch key kid and my parents were busy when they were home. I was watching all kind of stuff! LOL
In the Nino confessing scene, I think he was trying to intimidate Scotty. He wanted Scotty to know who he was. That if he could/would kill just a random person, he could/would kill anyone he wanted to.
I always saw Old Man as the Angel of Death. He'd been watching events unfold for years (the entirety of the movie) because he was ALWAYS where the situations that major events would take place. Going to the cops for Nino to be arrested was kind of like trying to give Nino chances at redemption (i.e. OG Killer Bobby Johnson finding redemption in prison. Or the Angel of Death in the Krazy K segment in Tales From The Hood. A lot of folks make change in prison or on their death bed). When he confronts Nino in front of Reverand Oates, he's doing the same thing. Of course we saw what happened to the "good" reverand, as he didn't leave. Notice how when the old man was ranting against Nino, it was REALLY getting to Scotty. Like REALLY getting to him. So Scotty goes off, and he's about to put a bullet in Nino and Nick stopped him. So, Death took matters in his own hands. Just my thought. I love your videos!
I Have To Agree With Bill Cobbs ( The Old Man ) being A Sort of Angel of Death! He Served Honorably in The Military, The Bible References He made to Nino & The Preacher ( RIP Nick Ashford 🙏)! Then When The Justice System Failed to give Nino Brown a Longer Sentence, So He Will No Longer be a threat, The Old Man takes it upon himself to Send Nino Brown to The Shadow Realm regardless of The Consequences to himself! Whacking Nino Was a Means to an end! And Nino Never saw it coming! Greetings From British 🇨🇦 Columbia!
The community feared Nino Brown, not idolize him. They cheered on Scotty Appleton and sort of idolized him for diminishing the fear and problem. Nino Brown killed anybody he felt was in his way, or felt was a threat to his business, money, or life. Scotty Appleton did what any good cop would do, take out anybody who imposed an immediate threat to him.
@@jimmiepurifoyiii9095 no it wasn't, the kid probably do it on purpose. If somebody purposely shorted you $5-$10 on something (drugs) what would you do?
Idolator!!! I’ve always thought that Scotty and the Old Man were in cahoots to kill Nino in the last scene. Earlier, when the Old Man pulled his gun on Nino, Scotty grabbed him and walked him out of the building. I think that not only did Scotty give the Old Man his gun back, he told the Old Man who he was, and his plan to kill Nino, which is why Scotty escorted the Old Man into the court.
Keep up the great work guys! People often forget “hood films” are some of the most important cinematic pieces in history regardless of genre in my opinion and you’re helping prove my point. Thanks.
What "people" are you referring to that "forgets"? If you were born and raised black, it;s part of our experience, just like Blaxploitation flicks. Our movies about our world.
My husband and I loved watching your fan theories... He was looking for more. He was talking to the screen and laughing...😄 Nice, thought provoking content.
Definitely, It always sends a chill up my spine when the old man shouts, "IDOLATOR, Your soul is required in hell!" right before he offs Nino Brown. That was one of the most visceral endings to a film I had ever seen.
He didnt guilt trip Pookie, Pookie asked to be put in that position. Remember when he got out of rehab Scottie said "youre just out and you already want a job" The scene at the beach is where the detective said he wasnt big on having Pookie do it, and Pookie said dont worry I'll be ready and thats when Scottie told him you better be ready you owe it to alot of people.
Personally I think stone was the real mastermind. He knew that Scotty and nick were a couple of psychos but he insisted that he have “new jack cops to take down a new jack gangster.” Notice how he always popped up at those convienient times. I think stone set ice t loose like a wild dog whose actions he could deny.
I would say no to Stone being be mastermind for a couple of reasons: 1) Stone appeared shocked when the old man shot and he's the one who subdued him. 2) At Pookie's funeral he told Scotty and Paretti it was over and to stop what they were doing.
@@AxiomAmnesia I think stone was playing the game. He knew what kind of lunatic he unleashed. Hell scotty crippled pookie when he ran off with that money. Lord knows what he was gonna do to take down nino.
@@taylorscrews2284 There COULD be some merit to this notion, but it would need to be fleshed out and specific evidence from the film would be needed to test the viability of the claim.
Actually it was interesting when Scottie told stone they were still working undercover, without his permission, Stone didn't seem to upset, so he could have been.
I think this is the most accurate fan theory. That human shield scene scared me as a kid. How heartless can you be to hold up a child during a gun attack? SN: 2$ in NYC in 1990 to a little kid was amazing. 😂😂😂 We're going right to the store to get lbs of candy, soda, chips, now n laters, sunflower seed and still have change left over. 😂😂
Scotty was no different from Sean Connery‘s character of a cop in the movie “ Untouchables” or Gene Hackmans character in “ Mississippi Burning.” They to were rogue police officers, that manipulated and got down and dirty to get things done. When Mario Van Peebles Said “I need a new jack cop to take down a new Jack gangster” you have to go there to get there.
I used to wonder every time I saw this movie. How did that old man get a handgun into the courthouse? I can’t think of one courthouse especially one in New York City where they don’t have metal detectors or something somebody must’ve slipped him that weapon does make sense it is possible.
Back in the 90’s, they didn’t have metal detectors at the courthouse. They rarely if ever checked for weapons. At that time you could bring a piece or a blade in the courthouse. Hell, there were lawyers who brought in weapons.
@@Supremmo I did Jury Duty in 94 in NYC. There were definitely metal detectors there. Granted that's a couple of years after this movie was made, but not that long
I always thought was stupid that Scotty sent Pookie a former crackhead as a undercover in a crack house ..he should’ve known Pookie would end up getting hooked again
I thought the same thing, with Pookie being around all those drugs, it was only a matter of time before he relapsed. Sending Pookie undercover into CMB headquarters was a major tactical error by Scotty, even Stone and his partner Nick Peretti were firmly against it.
Naw!!!! This is fact, not theory. It makes perfect sense. Nino was a kid who was sent by the gang to kill an innocent (Scotty’s mom). Scotty, a cop sends the elder to kill Nino. It’s poetic justice.
I just watched The Untouchables the other day, and Ness' about becoming what he despised, but not feeling bad about (paraphrase) is this scenario in a nutshell. Thank you for a new perspective on a movie I thought I knew. I wholeheartedly agree with your interpretation. You guys rock!
This was really good & a much deeper talk of the movie. I forgot about that Bible quote in the beginning of the film & forgot what the old man said before he shot Nino. That was sick that all of them kids circled around him like he was God.
Them having Pookie go undercover to work in a drug factory after him going through detox is one of the many crazy unbelievable things in this film. I guess it doesn't matter, because I love the movie anyway.
It was Pookies idea though. He convinced them but it was even more stupid on G-Money's part. They could have easily just made him a watchman or gave him a more normal job in the club.
Interesting theory! I do agree that Nino didn't know it was Scotty's mother that he killed. Just rather making how ruthless he can be under the guise of "just business".
To be totally honest, I knew it. That was the case behind the character of the old man, because I was keep seeing him as the victim and the cries of the neighborhood and the key witness in there just ignore him.
After testifying against nino, Selina went into the witness protection and needed love, so she dated JC and changed her name to sandra. Then Scotty lost his cop badge from a botched murder and Investigaton of pookie. Scotty became a criminal, and once he reconized JC's girlfriend he killed her..
Nino:What has this done to us G? Keisha, dead, the Duh Duh man, dead. Edit*When Scotty stops the old man from shooting nino in 1st attempt. Old man pulls a Luger 9mm (most likely a bring back from the war)and disarms him. Scotty does not keep the gun but let's him keep it. Because it is the same gun he uses to finally kill nino at the end. Very rare gun for the old man to own another as a spare backup so it is the same one he had earlier.That helps your fan theory about Scotty using the old man.
Didn't forget they fake punch the old man and drag him out the room with the silky pastor, Scott was supposed to get rid of him. The scene before the pool when Scott saying you can trust me to Nino brown.
Hey there and thanks for watching! We talked about that scene. The scene with Nick Ashford of Ashford & Simpson fame... "SOLID, SOLID AS A ROCK..." IDK about the punch being fake but we addressed how Scotty used that as a moment to gain even more of Nino's trust.
@@AxiomAmnesia yes true I could not wait to find out if you state it its like a good story i love ya chanel thanks so much a different perspective on movies
Old man probably even recognized him as a cop as he seemed to go to the Police Station to make complaints, so it was likely he might have recognized him. Maybe that was part of the setup too.
This is one of the best ones I ever seen now I'm going to watch movie again and pay attention to the dialogue and contents of what's y'all are saying I really love your outlook on movies keep up the good job
That's Crazy! Yesterday, I Watched New Jack City Again For The First Time In 20 Years And Thought This For The Very First Time When Ice-T Matter Of Fact-ishly Raise His Sun Glasses Back Over His Eyes After Nino Was Shot! It's Crazy That You Guys Released This Video Today!
I don't think this theory holds up too well. Firstly, we know that Scotty is willing to go right up to that line, but he doesn't step over it. He can't. He's principled, but he's willing to bend here and there for his opportunity. The ending is more about divine justice, as those parallels constructed by the Old Man (Bill Cobb), bring a warning throughout the film for Nino to give that life he's living and that, in all that Nino has done, he has made himself a god among me. By supplying their drugs and enslaving their bodies. However, Scotty's reaction to the shooting shows surprise, and Nick's smile realizing that this was a way better outcome, and that Nino escaped earthly justice, but not divine justice. When the Old Man repeats and expands on Luke 12:20, Scotty has no idea what to make of it, but quickly accepts the Nino's death and the fact he didn't have to sully his hands to get his vengeance on Nino, who iced his mother, killed his younger brother and is response for countless deaths and ruined lives.
The thing to remember is that this theory is an alternate explanation of what we saw. It doesn't negate the common interpretation of the film. Everything you mentioned in your rebuttal as to why this theory doesn't hold up (in your opinion) is part of the common interpretation of the film that we all agree upon. This is a fan theory, and that's something different. 😊
Idolator! This is my first time coming across your channel. I was in the 11th grade when this movie dropped. Beautiful breakdown a couple of other things. I wanna add if its okay. 1) When Nino poured champagne over Kareems cousin and said cancel this 🤬. I believe it was at this point. Scotty had another layer to his plan and put her in witness protection. 2) The old man said per his conviction with the police officer. He said briefly he did a tour in Vietnam. So him catching a body and concealing a gun. Into a place is just another Tuesday for him. 3) The little overlooked domino that contribute to the CMB empire falling. When Scotty and Nino were in the pool and he told. Nino G-Money cut a side deal with him. It was after that Nino started moving recklessly.
IDOLITOR!!! Very solid theory. I personally think that Nick and Scotty had completely gone rogue. I think that the they were told that dead or alive we don't care how you get him. But we don't want to know the details.
Awww thanks Nine! Glad you loved that theory. We loved it too! Think about what people would say about using the same theory over again though... we'd get roasted 😆😆🤣 Still, it is an interesting concept if there is enough evidence in the film to support the theory.
What kind of drug king pin would keep computers and files? 😂 I never understood why the cmb or Nino, i should say, would wanna keep track of his illegal actions.. talk about convoluted writing. So many problems, small things i noticed years ago when watching. Still a watchable movie. 👍🏻
You guys were on the money. And NOTICE Scotty did not try to stop the old man the second time !! Haha there were actually two antagonist in this movie, the real protagonist was the old man hahaaha!!!!! Let that sink in . ! !!
I hate it too! Thanks so much for getting it and for enjoying what we do. The disclaimer is an earnest attempt at education for the culture because a lot of folks don't understand what a fan theory is to begin with.
$2 was a lot in 1990 little debbie cakes was only .25 cents plus a quarter water and some gum with $1.45 left over.. y'all wrong on that point shhhh $2 could last a few days as a kid. In 94/95 a slice of pizza and a 20oz drink with .50 cents left over 🤣🤣🤣🤣
In the new Questlove interview with Ice T, he said there was supposed to be a New Jack City 2, and Nino Brown lived, but Ice T put out that rock album with the song "Cop Killer" so they pulled the plug on it at the time.
One of my favorite movies of all time... its seems like one huge hit after another was released in the same time frame. I'm so glad I found your channel, intelligent discorse is so refering in this day and age. Subscribed!
When did Scotty communicate to the Italians that Nino Brown was going to be at the wedding? The Italians probably have so many eyes in that organization that they don’t really need Scotty to tell them anything. They probably even know this guy is a cop
Scotty messed Pookie up shot him then Pookie gets on crack then Scotty put him in rehab then got him and put him around a room full of crack and he wasnt in recovery or clean long enough to be around crack. He used him and got him killed smh... I didnt think about it at the time when i first saw the film in 92 but when you think back on that was messed up
Maybe Scotty could've given the old man the gun because in most courthouses has metal detectors and you can get try to get in unless the metal detector goes off. By Scotty being a cop and showing his badge it's okay and had an extra gun and gave it to the old man. I can be wrong but that's how I see it.
The Old man is like the wise owl watching a certain person, which is a sign that person is on borrowed time because his bad karma will eventually catch up to him somehow. Then later on, right before said person dies, that owl shows itself again.
I remember thinking when Ice T finds out Nino killed his mother, that when his plan was in motion. He used Pookie and the Old Man to do his work. Hands never dirty and no witness.
I stumbled across your videos a week and I've been binging the crap outta them and I absolutely love them . I've watched all of these movies again with different eyes. This fan theory makes absolute sense. And what do you think of Ice Ts acting in this?
Can y'all also review "Bamboozled" ? It's a Spikee Lee film about modern day cooning in the media and the origins of Minstrel Shows. Came out in the early 2000s.
There's one foreshadowing in two scenes, the first scene is when they're at nino's warehouse and ice t acts as the hired muscle, when the old man walks in and tries to shoot Nino, Ice T stops him. Fast forward to the end of the scene when they got done interviewing nino in the lobby, Ice T and the old man are in the exact same position as before, only this time, Ice T doesn't stop him, and mario van pebbles comes behind to grab the old man after the situation occurred.
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Why do y'all keep showing the clip for More Better Blues
At what timestamp?
Sugar Hill is worth a watch as well.
@@fadeblac5633 I love SUGAR HILL. Every time that I get off the train at Sugar Hill, Harlem it reminds me of this great flic.
@@fasteddie9055 very underrated movie.
Idolator! This was a movie I had no business watching as a kid, but it still taught me about the danger of drugs.
Thanks for watching Trey! Did you sneak to watch it as a kid? LoL😂
@@AxiomAmnesia Most of the time. My mom didn't watch me watching it because of all the cussing, but had no problem with me watching Robocop and Terminator 🤣🤣🤣
@@TreyStation64 LOL I'm older than you, but I remember watching extreme horror with the nudity, cussing, and violence on HBO and other cable channels when I was a kid. LOL I was a latch key kid and my parents were busy when they were home. I was watching all kind of stuff! LOL
@@AxiomAmnesia I'm a movie buff; I watched a lot of stuff on Saturdays as a latchkey kid too. A lot of violence, sparse boobs, and so much cussing.
@@TreyStation64 LOL All things that would be deemed inappropriate for children, yet I think I turned out okay! LOL
In the Nino confessing scene, I think he was trying to intimidate Scotty. He wanted Scotty to know who he was. That if he could/would kill just a random person, he could/would kill anyone he wanted to.
I always saw Old Man as the Angel of Death. He'd been watching events unfold for years (the entirety of the movie) because he was ALWAYS where the situations that major events would take place. Going to the cops for Nino to be arrested was kind of like trying to give Nino chances at redemption (i.e. OG Killer Bobby Johnson finding redemption in prison. Or the Angel of Death in the Krazy K segment in Tales From The Hood. A lot of folks make change in prison or on their death bed). When he confronts Nino in front of Reverand Oates, he's doing the same thing. Of course we saw what happened to the "good" reverand, as he didn't leave. Notice how when the old man was ranting against Nino, it was REALLY getting to Scotty. Like REALLY getting to him. So Scotty goes off, and he's about to put a bullet in Nino and Nick stopped him. So, Death took matters in his own hands. Just my thought. I love your videos!
Thanks so much for sharing your thoughts and for watching! The old man definitely felt like he was the deliverer of death.
I Have To Agree With Bill Cobbs ( The Old Man ) being A Sort of Angel of Death!
He Served Honorably in The Military, The Bible References He made to Nino & The Preacher ( RIP Nick Ashford 🙏)!
Then When The Justice System Failed to give Nino Brown a Longer Sentence, So He Will No Longer be a threat, The Old Man takes it upon himself to Send Nino Brown to The Shadow Realm regardless of The Consequences to himself!
Whacking Nino Was a Means to an end!
And Nino Never saw it coming!
Greetings From British 🇨🇦 Columbia!
Bill Cobbs is a good actor I met him. Heis from my hometown of Cleveland.
It’s like the woman in Sons of Anarchy
The community feared Nino Brown, not idolize him. They cheered on Scotty Appleton and sort of idolized him for diminishing the fear and problem. Nino Brown killed anybody he felt was in his way, or felt was a threat to his business, money, or life. Scotty Appleton did what any good cop would do, take out anybody who imposed an immediate threat to him.
And don't forget how Nino killed a kid who was scrambling for him after he was shorted $5.00.
@@jimmiepurifoyiii9095 oh yeah, unless the kid purposely did that knowing it would piss him off and what the consequences of fucking over people are.
@@jamalsoward8404 That still was no reason to kill him!!!
@@jimmiepurifoyiii9095 no it wasn't, the kid probably do it on purpose. If somebody purposely shorted you $5-$10 on something (drugs) what would you do?
Scotty used the f outta porkier want ready the lil rehab stint didn’t do anything for him,he was still a junkie,facts.
Scotti was full of it talking about keeping an eye on POOKIE, when he just wanted him as a tool for his case
Idolator!!! I’ve always thought that Scotty and the Old Man were in cahoots to kill Nino in the last scene. Earlier, when the Old Man pulled his gun on Nino, Scotty grabbed him and walked him out of the building. I think that not only did Scotty give the Old Man his gun back, he told the Old Man who he was, and his plan to kill Nino, which is why Scotty escorted the Old Man into the court.
Keep up the great work guys! People often forget “hood films” are some of the most important cinematic pieces in history regardless of genre in my opinion and you’re helping prove my point. Thanks.
Thank you Tariq and we appreciate you! :-)
What "people" are you referring to that "forgets"? If you were born and raised black, it;s part of our experience, just like Blaxploitation flicks. Our movies about our world.
What point are you making? .You're arguing just to argue....God Bless You@@chriso8193
My husband and I loved watching your fan theories... He was looking for more. He was talking to the screen and laughing...😄 Nice, thought provoking content.
Thanks Tracy! We've got more fan theories and discussions coming! ❤️
🗣️IDOLATOR!!!😂 still one of the coldest endings EVER! Great job guys👍🏾
That was a cold ending!!! I will give them that! 😊
Definitely, It always sends a chill up my spine when the old man shouts, "IDOLATOR, Your soul is required in hell!" right before he offs Nino Brown. That was one of the most visceral endings to a film I had ever seen.
He didnt guilt trip Pookie, Pookie asked to be put in that position. Remember when he got out of rehab Scottie said "youre just out and you already want a job"
The scene at the beach is where the detective said he wasnt big on having Pookie do it, and Pookie said dont worry I'll be ready and thats when Scottie told him you better be ready you owe it to alot of people.
Personally I think stone was the real mastermind. He knew that Scotty and nick were a couple of psychos but he insisted that he have “new jack cops to take down a new jack gangster.” Notice how he always popped up at those convienient times. I think stone set ice t loose like a wild dog whose actions he could deny.
I would say no to Stone being be mastermind for a couple of reasons: 1) Stone appeared shocked when the old man shot and he's the one who subdued him.
2) At Pookie's funeral he told Scotty and Paretti it was over and to stop what they were doing.
@@AxiomAmnesia I think stone was playing the game. He knew what kind of lunatic he unleashed. Hell scotty crippled pookie when he ran off with that money. Lord knows what he was gonna do to take down nino.
@@taylorscrews2284 There COULD be some merit to this notion, but it would need to be fleshed out and specific evidence from the film would be needed to test the viability of the claim.
Actually it was interesting when Scottie told stone they were still working undercover, without his permission, Stone didn't seem to upset, so he could have been.
Stone was playing politics. He was career motivated. But it didn’t go as planned.
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I think this is the most accurate fan theory. That human shield scene scared me as a kid. How heartless can you be to hold up a child during a gun attack?
SN: 2$ in NYC in 1990 to a little kid was amazing. 😂😂😂 We're going right to the store to get lbs of candy, soda, chips, now n laters, sunflower seed and still have change left over. 😂😂
Scotty was no different from Sean Connery‘s character of a cop in the movie “ Untouchables” or Gene Hackmans character in “ Mississippi Burning.” They to were rogue police officers, that manipulated and got down and dirty to get things done. When Mario Van Peebles Said “I need a new jack cop to take down a new Jack gangster” you have to go there to get there.
But Mario also said to Scotty if it goes bad, he'll take the heat, but later at Pookies funeral, he blamed Scotty.
I used to wonder every time I saw this movie. How did that old man get a handgun into the courthouse? I can’t think of one courthouse especially one in New York City where they don’t have metal detectors or something somebody must’ve slipped him that weapon does make sense it is possible.
Scotty did it!
Back in the 90’s, they didn’t have metal detectors at the courthouse. They rarely if ever checked for weapons. At that time you could bring a piece or a blade in the courthouse. Hell, there were lawyers who brought in weapons.
In Chicago we had metal detectors in the 90s, so...
@@AxiomAmnesia There were some cities that didn’t but I guess everywhere is different
@@Supremmo I did Jury Duty in 94 in NYC. There were definitely metal detectors there. Granted that's a couple of years after this movie was made, but not that long
Wow, didn’t know Scottie was right behind the old man at the courthouse, and I’ve seen this movie a dozen times 🤦🏿
I think Ice T and Judd's expression is very telling....when Nino gets shot, it was almost like "mission accomplished".
Me too. I was watching last night with adult eyes ( I used to watch this movie as a kid) and I was 😂😂😂 at their facial expressions 😂
Me too. I was watching last night with adult eyes ( I used to watch this movie as a kid) and I was 😂😂😂 at their facial expressions 😂
I always thought was stupid that Scotty sent Pookie a former crackhead as a undercover in a crack house ..he should’ve known Pookie would end up getting hooked again
Marisa, that was Scotty using people for his own purposes. He didn't care that Pookie was likely to backslide!
I thought the same thing, with Pookie being around all those drugs, it was only a matter of time before he relapsed. Sending Pookie undercover into CMB headquarters was a major tactical error by Scotty, even Stone and his partner Nick Peretti were firmly against it.
Naw!!!! This is fact, not theory. It makes perfect sense. Nino was a kid who was sent by the gang to kill an innocent (Scotty’s mom). Scotty, a cop sends the elder to kill Nino. It’s poetic justice.
Alright then, call the fan theory a FACT!! LOL
Sheesh 💯🔥
28:23 that "I COULD'VE SMOKED THIS FOOL MYSELF" line delivery!
I just watched The Untouchables the other day, and Ness' about becoming what he despised, but not feeling bad about (paraphrase) is this scenario in a nutshell. Thank you for a new perspective on a movie I thought I knew. I wholeheartedly agree with your interpretation. You guys rock!
I had this theory in my head as far as the early 2000s. Thank you for doing this video!
You're welcome.
I seriously caught this one a long time ago....Scotty used Gee Money also...... great catch guys!!!! I love it .... idolater!!!!
Okay Big Worm!!!
I love the disclaimer yall give to everybody who Is ready to comment "you're wrong..." 🤣
😂 We gotta get that out the way up front! 😆
I allways wondered how the old man got in the government building with a gun..
I definitely don’t think Nino knew he killed Scottie’s mother. Correct, he was bragging. Great video, you guys!
Yes he had no way of knowing. He didn't even know the lady, or even knew Scottie.
G-money was differently on crack he should ve left the warehouse shootout and went straight to the airport lol
Good one....I always wondered how he got a gun in the court building....
Big Worm, yep!!!
I am loving and living for these break downs!! Keep em coming ❤❤
So glad you like them Bonito Coco! 😊
I love analysis videos and (logical) fan theories this page merge the two. This video definitely gives me a new perspective of the movie.
I recently found this channel, and now I can't stop Watching. You both do a great Job. I love your content!
Welcome aboard!
This was really good & a much deeper talk of the movie. I forgot about that Bible quote in the beginning of the film & forgot what the old man said before he shot Nino. That was sick that all of them kids circled around him like he was God.
Them having Pookie go undercover to work in a drug factory after him going through detox is one of the many crazy unbelievable things in this film. I guess it doesn't matter, because I love the movie anyway.
It was Pookies idea though. He convinced them but it was even more stupid on G-Money's part. They could have easily just made him a watchman or gave him a more normal job in the club.
Nino told Pookie, if he cleaned himself up that he’d give him a job. So the stage was set for that.
Fantastic breakdown! I never considered this as a possibility but I am completely convinced this is true. Great job.
Thanks for watching!
loved this. your fan theories are a new kind of escapism, to me. I'm truly grateful for your work.
Wow J, we are glad to being some joy and escape to your day!
Interesting theory! I do agree that Nino didn't know it was Scotty's mother that he killed. Just rather making how ruthless he can be under the guise of "just business".
To be totally honest, I knew it. That was the case behind the character of the old man, because I was keep seeing him as the victim and the cries of the neighborhood and the key witness in there just ignore him.
After testifying against nino, Selina went into the witness protection and needed love, so she dated JC and changed her name to sandra. Then Scotty lost his cop badge from a botched murder and Investigaton of pookie. Scotty became a criminal, and once he reconized JC's girlfriend he killed her..
LOL
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And changed his name to "Danny Up" lol 😆
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Good One!!!!
I always said Scotty and Nick were too cool about Nino getting shot lol.
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Nino:What has this done to us G? Keisha, dead, the Duh Duh man, dead.
Edit*When Scotty stops the old man from shooting nino in 1st attempt. Old man pulls a Luger 9mm (most likely a bring back from the war)and disarms him. Scotty does not keep the gun but let's him keep it. Because it is the same gun he uses to finally kill nino at the end. Very rare gun for the old man to own another as a spare backup so it is the same one he had earlier.That helps your fan theory about Scotty using the old man.
I just watched this movie & this commentary made the movie better than it was lol good job on this content! Keep it coming
Thanks! Will do!
Off topic but you are gorgeous 😍
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Idolator I absolutely love how you’re giving your perception on these movies for they all have hidden messages and gems 🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰
Thank you!!!
Didn't forget they fake punch the old man and drag him out the room with the silky pastor, Scott was supposed to get rid of him. The scene before the pool when Scott saying you can trust me to Nino brown.
Hey there and thanks for watching! We talked about that scene. The scene with Nick Ashford of Ashford & Simpson fame... "SOLID, SOLID AS A ROCK..." IDK about the punch being fake but we addressed how Scotty used that as a moment to gain even more of Nino's trust.
@@AxiomAmnesia yes true I could not wait to find out if you state it its like a good story i love ya chanel thanks so much a different perspective on movies
Thank you so much and I'm glad you like our approach to these movies!
FACTS PROB. SET IT UP THEN
Old man probably even recognized him as a cop as he seemed to go to the Police Station to make complaints, so it was likely he might have recognized him. Maybe that was part of the setup too.
Excellent work!! I didn't think about it that way!!
Thanks! 😊
This is one of the best ones I ever seen now I'm going to watch movie again and pay attention to the dialogue and contents of what's y'all are saying I really love your outlook on movies keep up the good job
Thanks so much Jarvis!
That's Crazy!
Yesterday, I Watched New Jack City Again For The First Time In 20 Years And Thought This For The Very First Time When Ice-T Matter Of Fact-ishly Raise His Sun Glasses Back Over His Eyes After Nino Was Shot!
It's Crazy That You Guys Released This Video Today!
Yep!
Do tales from the hood!!!!
It's on the radar Ralow! Thanks for the suggestion! :-)
Great suggestion!!!
I don't think this theory holds up too well. Firstly, we know that Scotty is willing to go right up to that line, but he doesn't step over it. He can't. He's principled, but he's willing to bend here and there for his opportunity.
The ending is more about divine justice, as those parallels constructed by the Old Man (Bill Cobb), bring a warning throughout the film for Nino to give that life he's living and that, in all that Nino has done, he has made himself a god among me. By supplying their drugs and enslaving their bodies. However, Scotty's reaction to the shooting shows surprise, and Nick's smile realizing that this was a way better outcome, and that Nino escaped earthly justice, but not divine justice. When the Old Man repeats and expands on Luke 12:20, Scotty has no idea what to make of it, but quickly accepts the Nino's death and the fact he didn't have to sully his hands to get his vengeance on Nino, who iced his mother, killed his younger brother and is response for countless deaths and ruined lives.
The thing to remember is that this theory is an alternate explanation of what we saw. It doesn't negate the common interpretation of the film. Everything you mentioned in your rebuttal as to why this theory doesn't hold up (in your opinion) is part of the common interpretation of the film that we all agree upon. This is a fan theory, and that's something different. 😊
Idolator! This is my first time coming across your channel. I was in the 11th grade when this movie dropped. Beautiful breakdown a couple of other things. I wanna add if its okay.
1) When Nino poured champagne over Kareems cousin and said cancel this 🤬. I believe it was at this point. Scotty had another layer to his plan and put her in witness protection.
2) The old man said per his conviction with the police officer. He said briefly he did a tour in Vietnam. So him catching a body and concealing a gun. Into a place is just another Tuesday for him.
3) The little overlooked domino that contribute to the CMB empire falling. When Scotty and Nino were in the pool and he told. Nino G-Money cut a side deal with him. It was after that Nino started moving recklessly.
Good 👍 the 11th grade God bless you I get the feeling you were blessed.
I like this. I can see this happening. Scotty walked off so smooth ✔💯
Like a G!
IDOLITOR!!! Very solid theory. I personally think that Nick and Scotty had completely gone rogue. I think that the they were told that dead or alive we don't care how you get him. But we don't want to know the details.
a great theory to maybe explore is that Nino Brown is the alter ego of Gee Money, i loved your guys theory on Kane and O Dog being the same person
Awww thanks Nine! Glad you loved that theory. We loved it too! Think about what people would say about using the same theory over again though... we'd get roasted 😆😆🤣 Still, it is an interesting concept if there is enough evidence in the film to support the theory.
You heard that from somebody … Iykyk
Y'all's podcast is very entertaining to watch
Thank you!
The fact that y'all have to remind ppl it's a fan theory shows ppl still listen to respond instead of listening to understand.....great video
True and thanks for watching!
What kind of drug king pin would keep computers and files? 😂 I never understood why the cmb or Nino, i should say, would wanna keep track of his illegal actions.. talk about convoluted writing. So many problems, small things i noticed years ago when watching. Still a watchable movie. 👍🏻
Nino and Scottie were different degree of the same spectrum. Idolator lol!!!
"Miss hawkins!" 😂
Stop blaming Scotty for Pookie's own choices
I don't think that's what happened. actually we blame Scotty for Scotty's actions. That what happened.
36:01 how I'm trying to walk away from 2022 into 2023 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Idolator
You guys were on the money. And NOTICE Scotty did not try to stop the old man the second time !! Haha there were actually two antagonist in this movie, the real protagonist was the old man hahaaha!!!!! Let that sink in . ! !!
Interesting, I always thought Keisha catch phrase is wicked awesome.
I hate that you always have to do that disclaimer. If they don’t get the channel yet they buggin! Love what y’all do, keep going! Much love
I hate it too! Thanks so much for getting it and for enjoying what we do. The disclaimer is an earnest attempt at education for the culture because a lot of folks don't understand what a fan theory is to begin with.
@@AxiomAmnesia but it's LITERALLY called a FAN THEORY😀🤦🏽♀️ppl get on my nerves sometimes 😂
$2 was a lot in 1990 little debbie cakes was only .25 cents plus a quarter water and some gum with $1.45 left over.. y'all wrong on that point shhhh $2 could last a few days as a kid. In 94/95 a slice of pizza and a 20oz drink with .50 cents left over 🤣🤣🤣🤣
LOL, Like I said, it was some money to spend at the candy lady's apartment. LOL
In the new Questlove interview with Ice T, he said there was supposed to be a New Jack City 2, and Nino Brown lived, but Ice T put out that rock album with the song "Cop Killer" so they pulled the plug on it at the time.
Nino switch the other side to take down the danger of drugs
One of my favorite movies of all time... its seems like one huge hit after another was released in the same time frame. I'm so glad I found your channel, intelligent discorse is so refering in this day and age. Subscribed!
Thanks Shawn! 😊
Ohh this was a lot and deep,
I have to rewatch and come back.
The Nino and Scotty Comparison at the end was deep❤
When did Scotty communicate to the Italians that Nino Brown was going to be at the wedding? The Italians probably have so many eyes in that organization that they don’t really need Scotty to tell them anything. They probably even know this guy is a cop
Italian mobsters all in the FBI sis
thanks for your perspective.... Idolator
This was 1of the best Drug Movies Ever Made Wesley an the others did a Great Job!!!!! Thanks for the Memories 👍👍👍❤️❤️❤️❤️😘😎
You're welcome! :-)
Pookie was a pond.
Another great fan theory! They just keep getting better and better 🎉
Glad you like them!
I would to hear the lady read books…her voice is very calming
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Even watching this movie all those years ago when I was younger always wondered how did the old man get in that courthouse with a gun !
Scotty helped him 😊
@@AxiomAmnesia that makes sense
As I get older and gain more insight on how the world really works, this actually makes perfect sense.
Scotty messed Pookie up shot him then Pookie gets on crack then Scotty put him in rehab then got him and put him around a room full of crack and he wasnt in recovery or clean long enough to be around crack. He used him and got him killed smh... I didnt think about it at the time when i first saw the film in 92 but when you think back on that was messed up
It was very messed up!
Pookie killed himself, by not thinking of with a clear mind. Scotty gave pookie( the loaded gun) but didn't pull the trigger.
@@enjoycooking5613 True but what crack head has a clear mind LOL
Wow yall went in deep. Thank yall 💓 💗 💛 !! I missed a lot
Our pleasure! Thanks so much for watching!
Scotty did not escort the old man into the court building, Scotty was walking down stairs and the old man was going upstairs...
In this fan theory he did and we explained it. You saying that's not what happened in your opinion doesn't change that.
@@AxiomAmnesia Oh ok...
This was a great video, can totally be what happened and I never peeped it
Thank you
IDOLATOR!! Love these videos and they really make you think differently about these classics!
Glad you like them!
you both was right in my opinion nino brown in this movie was step by up to be killed like that by this two cops in this movie too also
This movie is like In Too Deep Before Int too deep was even thought about 🤣🤣🤣🤣 with a difference
This is a very interesting theory
Thanks Marisa! Let us know what you think after you finish! :-)
In the beginning, Scottie WAS hesitant regarding Pookie going in but after that, everything you said lines up
Hey can you possibly do one on Candyman? Also love the channel!
Thanks! I'll see what we can do! ❤️
Maybe Scotty could've given the old man the gun because in most courthouses has metal detectors and you can get try to get in unless the metal detector goes off. By Scotty being a cop and showing his badge it's okay and had an extra gun and gave it to the old man. I can be wrong but that's how I see it.
I like to read different perspectives. Great job!
Screaming IDOLATOR at my puppy every time he rips up something now😂
Great fan theory 👏🏾 never thought of it like that.
17:26 preach brotha preach 💯 a message no one understood in this movie
Isolator!
Yeah I'm subbed, this was great. Great editing & video, y'all do really great work
Thanks so much Scott! We appreciate you and welcome aboard!
The Old man is like the wise owl watching a certain person, which is a sign that person is on borrowed time because his bad karma will eventually catch up to him somehow. Then later on, right before said person dies, that owl shows itself again.
I remember thinking when Ice T finds out Nino killed his mother, that when his plan was in motion. He used Pookie and the Old Man to do his work. Hands never dirty and no witness.
I stumbled across your videos a week and I've been binging the crap outta them and I absolutely love them . I've watched all of these movies again with different eyes. This fan theory makes absolute sense. And what do you think of Ice Ts acting in this?
Can y'all also review "Bamboozled" ? It's a Spikee Lee film about modern day cooning in the media and the origins of Minstrel Shows. Came out in the early 2000s.
Hey Jabril! That is a movie we should MOST DEF do! We've seen it many times. :-)
@@AxiomAmnesia 😎🔥👍💯 Cool I look forward to it.
There's one foreshadowing in two scenes, the first scene is when they're at nino's warehouse and ice t acts as the hired muscle, when the old man walks in and tries to shoot Nino, Ice T stops him. Fast forward to the end of the scene when they got done interviewing nino in the lobby, Ice T and the old man are in the exact same position as before, only this time, Ice T doesn't stop him, and mario van pebbles comes behind to grab the old man after the situation occurred.
I was in the 4th grade when this movie came out in 1991. I remember seeing it Easter night at the movies 😬
This was one of the first movies I saw bootlegged. Someone filmed it in the movies and we watched it on VCR.
Love the content very enlightening
Can you do in too deep with Omar Epps and ll cool j
Absolutely!