“I would sack you!” Estate agent fakes a doctor’s note in wild call to LBC's Legal Hour
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- Daniel Barnett is LBC's resident lawyer and he takes an hour of calls each week on legal issues, offering advice and counsel. But he was not prepared for caller Sam, who came up with every excuse in the book to justify faking a doctor's note to get a company car.
It's an instant classic on the Legal Hour. Do you think Sam's employer was in the right?
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This is the exact sort of person you should never employ. He sounds like a total nightmare.
Yeah true, more hassle than it’s worth.
So this person should be paid by us to stay at home sick ?
Apparently only about 30% of people in employment actually do any work.
@@KevinMannix-sf5zk It would save us all money in the long term.
He sounds like a great candidate for a position I know will soon be open. Leader of the Tory party.
Labour party* they love playing the victim
@@anonomous8719😂 how delusional and predictable. You Tory/reform votes cannot put two and two together hence Rishis Math policy 😂😂
@@ryanoneill4691 how bigoted of you - classic green/labour voter
@@anonomous8719 of course you’re! Maybe try looking up the word bigoted as you clearly don’t know what it means.
That is actually a great shout for this guy
I have ADHD. I can’t sit still either, so I get up every now and again, have a quick wander round the office and answer a few emails on my phone while I’m standing somewhere else. I listen to music on my AirPods to block out background noise & I have a million phone reminders set to remind me to do boring life admin tasks. He speaks about it like it’s on a level with really serious disabilities. I know it’s a spectrum and others are more severely affected than I am but this guy just sounds like a nightmare. His employers sound really nice, they’ve given him a chance & tried to be accommodating and now they’ll never hire anyone with ADHD again thanks to this guy.
Lazy ppl also have adhd is my take away
I also have ADHD and spinal damage from an accident years ago but I would not expect have the stuff this guy does.
He’s just trying to get money out of his employer.
Unfortunately if you have ADHD you have to deal with a lack of understanding in the work place. Fact. You can expect to either be doing lonely menial tasks for the rest of your life or being sacked. Great life.
An absolute grifter, we’ve all worked with someone like this 🤣
Wait wait wait. He’s asking for reasonable adjustments for his recognised disability….but faked a doctor’s note because he didn’t want to disclose his disability? Well…which is it?
He’s very clearly a liar!
@@jujutrini8412 Yep, he'd make a great estate agent!
Fraud plain and simple. Every other mutter of sh** that came out of his mouth didn’t even matter. No grounds apart from criminal from thereon.
Casually admits to a criminal offence on national radio. The employer should reasonably adjust him out the front door.
So this person should be paid by us to stay away from the workforce because he is different ?
I agree
I've not encountered this host before. I'm impressed. He's very exacting.
He's a barrister if that explains his exacting nature.
@Rachel_M_ it does, but I suspect he's an above average one too.
@@drummingtildeath I wouldn't disagree with you on that 👍
Sounds like Sam has totally lost touch with reality. Has he considered becoming a Conservative candidate?
That Mrs Lincoln comment was gold 😂
100%
Both the fake letter and the being a director are grounds for dismissal. He has only been on the job for a few months. I'm not surprised they want to get rid of him.
He’s just making excuses for his basic fraudulent conduct. He’s entitled and he is unemployable because of his attitude.
So your saying he should be paid by us to not come to work ?
Sam doing his best to uplift the reputation of Estate Agents all over the UK
The way people aren’t even embarrassed to carry on like this at work is so wild.
I bet he hung up and thought he had done brilliantly! I love the thought of him reading through these comments! 😂
As a neurodiverse person, a lot of the adjustments you can do yourself. You don't need a standing desk, just walk around. Get noise cancelling headphones regarding the music, you can't control other people's actions
estate agent
checks out
Brilliant
Notorious liars employing a great big fat liar. I thought the exact same thing. 😂
I came here to say it and you’ve nailed it
I've known quite a few people with ADHD in my life and I've never heard of any needing this ridiculous amount of special care. Nine out of ten times the only thing people with ADHD need is for someone to remind them to stay on target with whatever they are doing.
yeah, if I get a letter about something, if I don't put it where I can easily see it regularly, I might as well not have received it as I forget it exists. So I have systems in place to try and remind me to focus on tasks needed.
And also, the fact that people with ADHD will need to get up and move around a bit. That can be arranged easily.
its depends on the age they turned ADHD,
So yes if someone can engage in a interview and get a job then there emotional growth was almost complete when they experienced the trauma,
But if the child experiences the trauma at a young age then their emotional growth is extremely stunted
So what you are saying is that only people with a certain amount of emotional growth can work with normal, but those who experienced the trauma at a very young age before 5 then they should all be paid to stay away from the normal people ?
@@KevinMannix-sf5zk adhd is a developmental disorder which you are born with, you do not develop it. this was literally told to me word for word by dr of psychotherapy today
Absolute shyster
Assuming he does have a disability, it sounds like he is using it to try and get whatever he wants, reasonable or not. But given he faked having a back issue, we really can't believe anything he says. A complete fraud.
As someone diagnosed with asperger's and suspected ADHD I can say he is taking advantage of the system. I know he doesn't need all that and it's not reasonable adjustments
"Apart from that Mrs Lincoln, how was your night at the theatre?"
😂😂😂😂
Yikes... This guy sounds like a nightmare 😅
I don't think Sam's gonna be selling any houses anytime soon..
Im no doctor, but even I can diagnose this guy with adhd
yes and it appears the normal's don't want him around,
So are you going to sign him off sick ?
Or are you going to expect him to endure a life a bullying, harassment, spiteful behaviour's and list goes on and on,
sounds like someone who joined our company (but isn't, cos it's a different sector). Told us he had ADHD and may need some adjustments so we were fine with that. He stopped showing up, randomly missed days etc- he kept blaming ADHD. Then he put in a formal complaint because we wouldn't give him "flexible working". Flexible working here defined as working from home permanently - in a role which is advertised as MANDATORY 3 days a week office.
He tried to sue us but it didn't go anywhere. Guy was a temp as well. It's like dude, what are you doing?
So what you are saying is we should pay him to stay away from the normal workforce ?
He is affected by a condition that when you ask the medical profession what is wrong with me they say "we don't know, but we gave it a name"
@@KevinMannix-sf5zk "so what you're saying is..." - the words spoken by someone who is angry that I'm right but can't admit it, so changes my words so they can attack them instead.
I didn't read past the words "so what you're saying is..." and I never will.
f-off, troll :)
Bet his disability badge is fake too
If he lied about the Drs nite for his “bad back” he has most likely lied about a number of other things to a number of other people! People like this lie to get whatever they want.
I think this guy's confusing 'having ADHD' with 'being a con-man'.
I have ADHD and I would say, some of this is quite lazy and pushing it far. But also be an adult and own up to what you need to do.
A contract of employment is a contract of trust between both parties. He's clearly breached that trust with a dishonest act.
This is like a comedy sketch
Uses his adhd as just an excuse for everything
I come back and listen to this every so often. Can’t believe it’s not satire. One of the funniest calls I’ve ever heard on this segment!!
So... he wants to put on his own music in the office and has put in a grievance about that? Headphones exist?
As for his 'business'.. has he been put down as a director for a family members business to avoid tax of some sort?
This geezer seems super dodgy!
Great ending!
Least dodgy Estate Agent
7:24 he's surprised faking a doctor's letting is a grounds for dismissal!
This guy is a trouble maker
The standing desk is actually an ADHD thing and so is the dormant company but the way the guy has gone about all of this inexplicable. That's not ADHD
He shouldn't in employment he should be in prison for fraud 😂
I feel very sorry for ADHD sufferers. I'm sure he would feel better with proper treatment and medication.
ADHD is not an illness. It is a way to be, unfortunately, it also means that a few adjustments are needed, but this guy is a nightmare.
This guy sounds exactly like my dodgy landlord. Totally self obsessed and an absolute grifter.
Imagine calling thinking you have a case and man starts reading the texts 😂
Oh dear...
How does he survive in life ?
By making others life hard
I feel sorry for anyone who has ever employed this man. People like this make it so hard for people who have physical disabilities.
Mental disabilities are still disabilities, want to explain why out of all disabilities, autism has the lowest employment rate in the UK? (ONS)
@@InsightfulUndercurrents Why don’t you explain it seeing as how you want to feel butthurt about what I said - which did not in any way say that mental disabilities are not disabilities, by the way. The person in this clip asked for PHYSICAL adjustments at work when he is claiming to have a mental disorder (as well as LYING about a physical disability in order to get an automatic car!)
.What a joker.
I'm still uneasy about people claiming that neurodiversity is a disability. Yes it means making accommodations but this man isn't disabled imo, he's taking advantage.
He's acting as if he's above the law, using ADHD as an excuse for his actions.
ASD, ADHD, etc are disabilities’. Mental disabilities are still disabilities, neurodivergence is about how minds are different.
@@InsightfulUndercurrents yea but they're not disabled. It's a diversity.
It's like saying a white person is disabled because their skin pigmentation is different/lack melanin.
Underneath they're still people with different wiring who in my experience are capable of outperforming neuro typical people in certain instances, so able.
In terms of funding for assistance then absolutely I understand the categorisation and would stay out of that 👍
I litterally cant finish this video. I cant listen to the guy.
So he told his employers about his ADHD so they could make changes but faked a doctors letter to get an automatic car, what 😅
3:40 as someone who can empathise with some of these issues, this caller needs to actually focus on the word “REASONABLE”. P.S fraudulent DOCTORS letter?! Tf! Guy needs to be dismissed and get a job more suitable, like fruit picking… that’ll keep him occupied!
Did he say he wanted to control the music?
then he needs to have earphones.
I’m sure his team are gutted to lose him. I’m sure they only have nice things to say
Lawyer isn't happy tonight lololol.
well, that got crazy...
What on earth is an "automatic car"??? Does he mean the transmission, or a self-driving vehicle? At any rate, whoever hired this gorb should also be reviewed. This is The Onion News worthy.
It means the gear changes automatically no gear stick
I wont be surprised if this caller is making this up to justify Sunaks desire to get rid of sick notes
Frankly they should have spotted the signs at the interview stage. They’d have been there, Sam just can’t help himself.
This is typical employee who dont want to work but want to compalin and moan for free money...
The "I need some focus" line to the ADHD guy nearly had me on the floor 😂
I have ADHD (inattentive). It does effect memory - but not in this way. Let's say I take my ipods with me to bed, and for some reason I would have to take them out suddenly and put them somewhere, and then briefly do something else, I won't remember where I put them the moment I'm looking for them. ADHD is all about building habbits. In this case I always place them in the exact same spot. Same with keys (which I have found in my fridge a couple of times) But I won't forget that I own ipods. VERY simplified example.
A blue badge for ADHD. Sure, lol.
Ikr that is absolutely crazy.
More hassle than it’s worth
He can't work properly if he gets bored, and that's his employers fault. What an asset to the company.
Sounds like he don't have much to do. I was never board at amazon because there were always trollies to drag parcels to package etc
And not at all uncommon in today’s world of work. Get stuff like this all the time.
Sounds like an awfully demanding day- you can’t spend time looking after someone like this bounding on the line between capability and disciplinary issues …
Sam needs help NOW.
Bell-end
Most trustworthy estate agent
The only thing about this I disagree with is that a standing desk can make a massive difference to someone with adhd's productivity. My colleague sits down and really struggles to stay focused in any way, but when standing he is an exemplary engaged member of the team. He broke his leg a few months ago in a bike accident and yet still chooses to stand at times to help his focus. Having the ability to stand and sit gives him the ability to control his own focus levels and do his job to the best of his ability.
Look at Daniel making it onto the main channel! ❤
“Sam, try not to use legal technical phrases. I know what they mean but you obviously do not.”
This is the sort of person angling to spend his life having the tax payer fund his life
The caller needs help that is not just legal. He needs help to realise that while employers should make reasonable adjustments we (I am Aspi) also need to try and adjust. It is difficult for us, and sometimes we need a mediator to help us see how we might be problems. Sam has obviously not understood this.
In the past (I am 68, so I have had a lot of that) the onus was on us to adapt. No adjustments unless somebody liked us and our weird ways, which has happened in my life, and then they realised how dedicated we can be. Today, both sides must make adjustments, and that is fair. ADHD, Aspis etc, we cannot expect all the adjustments to be coming from the neuroconforms. So, coming back to the beginning: this guy needs some counselling sessions, and then to start afresh in another job.
The oddest show on LBC in general, some absolute weirdos out there
"maybe that was a mistake, but putting that aside.."
What, you mean the fraud? You want us to just put the fraud aside? A standing desk is not reasonable for ADHD. Being able to _personally_ control the music levels in the office _might_ be a reasonable adjustment, but I can understand that they didn't think it was.
If I were the employer, I'd be reporting him to the police, frankly. He's committed fraud by false representation... And admitted to it...on national radio.
Stereotypical ADHD, main character syndrome, excuse filled employee, the adjustments need to be reasonable and they are not reasonable
You have to question the diagnosis of ADHD vs personality disorder, or plus personality disorder. What has fraud or musical entertainment got to do with the proper business of a real estate agent?
A wind up.
It takes all sorts to make this world! Yeah, who doesn't lie to get a sickie once in a while, but a fake Dr's note is next level!
Then, taking them to tribunal lol ever heard of a saying "quit while you are ahead"
Imagine thinking this was a serious call! The comment section is full of people who take trolls seriously.
Sounds like he was being serious, a lot of people in the uk act like this.
Likely not a troll, too many people are taught since they have adhd they can do whatever they want especially with how education system is engraving this point into them now.
I worked with a guy who got sacked since he was allowed a few short break due to his adhd and then went on them every 10minutes and did no work. He also said about the music thing (something a lot of schools teach them) but he wanted to listen to mumble rap and stuff no one else liked.
Sorry for the essay.
It definitely seems serious. I get you’re probably smarter than the rest of us, though
Bridge for sale. 1 careful owner. No timewasters or dreamers.
A standing desk is a reasonable adjustment for people with ADHD recommended by the government. Just another LBC host who has no clue what he is talking about.
A standing or walking desk is definitely a reasonable adjustment for ADHD.
Forgotten his Directorship. Does ADHD affect the memory? Sounds like this guy is milking the system.......totally. Get real or join the Post Office
Guys rippin it
Sam is crazy!
This guy is clapped
Sam’s a keen blagger.
Sam, are you okay 🥴🤨😂😂🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️?
Lol Daniel has no idea how serious ADHD actually is and the way he treats this guy is unacceptable. ADHD is literally genetic brain damage/defects. If someone had a car crash, they could literally end up having ADHD like symptoms if the damage is in the same area.
LBC needs to do better than being straight up ableist live on national radio and you can bet I’ve complained to ofcom. Not that it will change anything but still, you’re ridiculous for doing this
But the caller needs help that is not just legal. He needs help to realise that while employers should make reasonable adjustments we (I am Aspi) also need to try and adjust. It is difficult for us, and sometimes we need a mediator to help us see how we might be problems.
In the past (I am 68, so I have had a lot of that) the onus was on us to adapt. No adjustments unless somebody liked us and our weird ways, which has happened in my life, and then they realised how dedicated we can be. Today, both sides must make adjustments, and that is fair. ADHD, Aspis etc, we cannot expect all the adjustments to be coming from the neuroconforms.
Just a troll. Not genuine 😂
The Equality Act needs to do a LOT more to protect disabled and neurodivergent people at work and throughout the job application process. It puts us in awkward positions around declaration all the time and makes us responsible for all the justification and legwork. He shouldn't have faked a doctor's letter but the rest I totally get.
The entitlement in British culture is on another level! Wow. That he is ONLY suspended at the moment boggles the mind. I’m asia based, these sorts of people would be out on their ear here.
Yeah, we have to go through an extended legal process. Even with a chancer like this guy.
2:40 oh my goodness I want i want.
He's more than entitled to bring an employment claim against his employer, but surely his employer is equally entitled to bring a claim for him faking a doctors letter.......
People that fall under the ADHD Autistic umbrella, Do not know what is wrong with them
all other conditions have a root, where the doctors says that's gone bad we will treat that part and because we know what that part is and what it does we can determine the consequence's of that part being wrong
Medical profession tell me what ADHD is , "we dont know"
Medical profession tell me what Autism is "we dont know"
Which means there no definable aspect's to both difference's , The Doctors don't even know if its actually something that's gone wrong
And because the Doctors are all taught to be cortices worshippers and worship the left PFC , then discovering what something is that's nothing to do with the cortices is going to be an issue isnt it ?
Cant break the LEFT PFC delusions
Pk
Sounds a typical LBC listener, the favourite station of the London Loony Bin. I bet he thinks J.O Brian is an intelligent commentator on the nations affairs 😂😂😂😂😂
And here you are 😂😂😂
This dude might not be explaining himself well, nor is it reasonable to fake having another disability to not disclose your own, but my word this host knows nothing about ADHD. One of the most frequent recommendations for ADHD workers is a non-restrictive workspace, like a standing desk. This guy might not be doing things right, but that doesn't excuse the host, or any of these awful comments, from demonising ADHD as a "lazy" disorder.
Sounds like you need to open your ears
@@Matthew-bu7fg Why? Or rather, what did you hear specifically that you think I missed?
Its very annoying when you're neurodiverse, and chaps like this basically lie and withhold stuff to their employers but blame their condition, it may not be justified but many will now will associate his condition with inability to tell the truth, and set the cause back for other hardworking neurodiverse people
@@zoranblackie5921 Exactly! It's hard enough out here convincing them I'm confident in my work, I just don't like to make eye contact, when people are out here muddying the waters on being ND. People already understand so little (ironically, because they think they already know and don't need to learn) we could do without our own making us all look bad.
Imagine the chaos when disruptive people enter the work place against their will. It will be worse than Brexit. Businesses will lose money hand over fist. Just think it through.
I tried to listen, but the host made it difficult. I really had to stop 🤦🏿
The caller was the one making it difficult
@@Matthew-bu7fg even if the caller was talking bull%%%t he should allow him to speak straight and stop the constant interruptions
@@MD_ENTERTAINMENT it's an hour's show and he has to get through as many callers as he can. Interrupting someone to get to the facts can save a minute or two of times which, when added together, can ensure fitting another 1 or 2 callers in
Geezers a balloon...
This is the most Nigerian insult 😂😂😂
@@christophercharlesrealist6481 not as Nigerian as Dundee UTD